Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[ZXO]

Yes, because the CDC has been so accurate about so many things this entire time ...

There is so much inaccuracy surrounding this that I take literally everything I hear from everybody with a grain of salt at this point.

"It could be worse. We don't know ... But it COULD be." Fearmongering much?

I don't know if you live in The USA - if you do, do you remember news coverage of Katrina? The news kept airing the same footage of the city being flooded and on fire after the water had receded and the fires were out. They also were saying more levies may break. All they do is take possibility and make it worst case.

Edit: Added context.

 

[JosephStalin]

He detected Contrapoints was a fake tranny ages ago.

Anti lockdown protests in CA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2KHskY-lVI

https://archive.vn/KLWLu
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This is from infamous troll/lunatic Jake the Asshole, formerly known as Flat Earth Asshole. He made this song, which is either deeply insane or some sort of troll but either way I kinda like it.

Scott Kelly and the ISS Hoax Song by Flat Earth Asshole

I wrote and performed this song in one take. No stopping and restarting, just one lucky take after several fails haha. I used a drum machine, loop machine an...

www.youtube.com

https://archive.vn/ZFVZy

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Well, well. Most demonstrators didn't wear masks or practice social distancing. The police, except for two, wore no masks, didn't practice social distancing either. The police did nothing, didn't try to deny people their First Amendment right to protest. The pushbacks will continue until "they" start using some common sense.

Yes, because the CDC has been so accurate about so many things this entire time ...

There is so much inaccuracy surrounding this that I take literally everything I hear from everybody with a grain of salt at this point.

"It could be worse. We don't know ... But it COULD be." Fearmongering much?

Troof dat. Monkeys COULD fly out of my ass, too.

From what I am seeing, people are starting to lose any fear they had of the ChiCom Flu. They apparently believe the heavy-handed police state tactics, effectively putting nearly 300 million people on house arrest, were unwarranted, at least for weeks on end.

A thought - the next time something like this happens, believe people are going to have much less faith and trust in any level of government's ability to do things smartly. And there will be a next time.

 

[ditto]

The Australian ABC is a gift that keeps giving, this time about Governor Cuomo:

Women are professing a newfound sexual attraction to Cuomo — or at least to the authority he exudes.

Nowhere in the linked article is there a mention of women or sexual attraction. WTF ABC, is it because nipples are banned in Australian media?

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Japan receives 2 million face masks donated by Taiwan to combat COVID 19

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/04/21/national/japan-face-masks-donated-taiwan-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3AS9hMaNX-s_lxGRA7cdhIt8icXAbDd-Dgn8-Eo3zDRfMCYsXJ92nmaO0#.Xp_Wrf1KiM8

 

[Consenticles]

Anyone else have the COVID toes symptom?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2994930001

So regarding this article, spouse noticed red lesions on their foot about a week and a half ago. We thought nothing of it. Attributed it to increased use of exercise equipment instead of going outside. Read this article tonight and while it is unconfirmed, the spots are a deep purple and on the tips of the toes. No other symptoms. Unfortunately they cannot confirm if this is a symptom, as testing is hard to come by. But seems like it is found mostly in children (this is not the middle east, my spouse is over 18!) Sometimes adults can get it though.

If this is a sign, then they are likely asymptomatic and so am I, as we have vigorously exchanged bodily fluids over the last few weeks of quarantine. Would love to get an antibody test when they come out, assuming most of the carriers are like us and don't show signs.

Only place I can venture a guess where we got it is the hospital for a small outpatient procedure I had a few weeks ago. Spouse sat in the waiting room roughly 1 hour, we were provided masks, and we wore gloves. Crazy shit.

 

[Saint Skittles]

Looks like the SF Bay had America's 1st Corona death on February 6th, more than three weeks before the first recorded death in Washington state. This also probably means, given how long it takes for this to kill someone, that Corona-chan has been bouncing around the San Francisco area since at least mid January.

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[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

2,481,195 confirmed / 172,860 dead / 608,783 recovered

2389392 / 165406 / 568262 yesterday

Iran

84,802 confirmed / 5,297 dead / 60,965 recovered

83505 / 5209 / 59273 yesterday

USA

825,183 confirmed / 45,070 dead / 75,658 recovered JohnHopkins
827,358 confirmed / 45,442 dead / 75673 recovered Infection2020

784599 / 42138 / 72522 yesterday JohnHopkins
797415 / 42586 / 72522 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

204,178 confirmed / 21,282 dead / 82,514 recovered

200210 / 20852 / 80587 yesterday

Italy

183,957 confirmed / 24,648 dead / 51,600 recovered

181228 / 24114 / 48877 yesterday

France

159,300 confirmed / 20,829 dead / 39,842 recovered

156480 / 20292 / 38036 yesterday

Gemany

148,453 confirmed / 5,086 dead / 99,400 recovered

147065 / 4862 / 91500 yesterday


Ramadama dingdong starts Friday. Is there any islamic countries who puts out trustworthy numbers that we should watch to see if it has an impact?

 

[heathercho]

So as of today, NSW in Australia (the most populated state) have had an increase of... wait for it.

2 cases.
Out of 4500 tests done. Today. 2 cases.

Bondi Beach has opened back up, somewhat, only for water use. Which is autistic, but this is Australia. They're too stupid and dishonest to admit that their predictions were wrong, so we have to endure lockdown until their egos recover.

Issac Ben Israel's predictions of 8 week case spread load to decline are seeming more and more likely as perfectly correct every day.

https://archive.vn/828wr

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Looks like the SF Bay had America's 1st Corona death on February 6th, more than three weeks before the first recorded death in Washington state. This also probably means, given how long it takes for this to kill someone, that Corona-chan has been bouncing around the San Francisco area since at least mid January.

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This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

A recent antibody study was done in LA (the info has already made its rounds on the Farms), where thousands of people were tested positive. These people with antibodies were specifically tested because they had not shown any symptoms of COVID-19. Through this test, doctors found out that an alarming amount of people had caught the virus and recovered from it without them even knowing they had it.

That just tells me that this thing has been in the U.S. for a really long time, and that the actual amount of COVID-19 cases is exponentially larger than previously thought. If I had to predict, I bet the virus made it's way to the United States back in November 2019.

The study reveals both bad news and good news: Bad news being that this fucker is incredibly contagious, and good news being that it appears that the vast majority of cases are asymptomatic, meaning the mortality rate (percentage-wise) is much lower than what is being documented.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

A recent antibody study was done in LA (the info has already made its rounds on the Farms), where thousands of people were tested positive. These people with antibodies were specifically tested because they had not shown any symptoms of COVID-19. Through this test, doctors found out that an alarming amount of people had caught the virus and recovered from it without them even knowing they had it.

That just tells me that this thing has been in the U.S. for a really long time, and that the actual amount of COVID-19 cases is exponentially larger than previously thought. If I had to predict, I bet the virus made it's way to the United States back in November 2019.

The study reveals both bad news and good news: Bad news being that this fucker is incredibly contagious, and good news being that it appears that the vast majority of cases are asymptomatic, meaning the mortality rate (percentage-wise) is much lower than what is being documented.

I have a coworker, who from the beginning has been saying that the lockdowns were a mistake, 'everyone's' probably already had it, the mortality rate is really low and we should've just ordered the at risk population to shelter in place while the rest of us basically follow Sweden's model. I don't know if I'd agree that the lockdowns were a mistake from the beginning but he's looking more and more right every passing week.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I have a coworker, who from the beginning has been saying that the lockdowns were a mistake, 'everyone's' probably already had it, the mortality rate is really low and we should've just ordered the at risk population to shelter in place while the rest of us basically follow Sweden's model. I don't know if I'd agree that the lockdowns were a mistake from the beginning but he's looking more and more right every passing week.

They may have been done with good intentions at first, but it's flippantly obvious to everyone with a brain that by now it's all about political and governmental control. It's like I've been saying for a while, the powers that be have been waiting for such an exact situation as this. An excuse to panic the masses and get them to do whatever they say. The fact that goalposts are being moved to extend lockdowns further and restrictions getting more and more exceptional is cold hard evidence that they're riding out this cloud 9 power trip as long and as hard as they possibly fucking can.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

IIRC there was some issues with that study, the main one being "false positives" (which is dumb, because the criticism was that the false positive rate MIGHT COULD MAYBE be higher than what the authors found); but the more pressing concern is that people who might have been more likely to have COVID (those concerned about recent contact or mild symptoms) were more likely to sign up to take the test and participate in the study.

But before that a British source estimated the number may be as low as 0.66% back when everyone thought this was a 2%'er. So honestly there's a good chance it is somewhere between 0.3-0.7% mortality rate.

Those numbers out of Sweden are outright exceptional, but would be mind-boggling if true.

 

[Otterly]

He mentions another couple of over the counter drugs too - Quercetin and N-acetylcysteine (NAC). I get my RDA of all vitamins but I don't know enough about Quercetin and NAC to mess with them, to be honest.

Quercetin is an ionophore, so it can carry stuff j to cells. It might (might) help stuff that doesn’t get into cells easily like zinc get in more. NAC is known to thin and loosen long mucous and it’s used by some CF sufferers. It also helps to protect against some of the toxic products of drug and metabolites- it’s one of the things they give you if you OD in paracetamol to stop you crying your liver.
Neither are particularly toxic in the doses you find in health stores, but I think you can have a nasty allergic reaction to NAC

A thought - the next time something like this happens, believe people are going to have much less faith and trust in any level of government's ability to do things smartly. And there will be a next time.

Absolutely. Again, Sweden’s measures have been very calm and not too restrictive on people. They seem to have got it right in the main. Ha I g said that I don’t think Italy and Spain were wrong to lock down - they were in a very bad place and with the data they had, I think they had no other choice. We need to start lifting lockdowns here - the Uk has probably peaked and the tail of the curve will be slowly going down anyway. Too much lockdown is bad.
Back atcthe start of this there was a prediction that the death toll and healthcare load would be roughly 10-15x that of a bad flu season.

 

[2021Murder]

I have a coworker, who from the beginning has been saying that the lockdowns were a mistake, 'everyone's' probably already had it, the mortality rate is really low and we should've just ordered the at risk population to shelter in place while the rest of us basically follow Sweden's model. I don't know if I'd agree that the lockdowns were a mistake from the beginning but he's looking more and more right every passing week.

people have been saying that from the start. but I'll have to agree with what people were saying in the first dozen pages. China wouldn't have sperged out if this was a low mortality, no big deal sort of thing. if the chance of dying from this was similar to just working in a Chinese factory the government would have just told people to shut the fuck up and live their lives. you don't weld people into their homes and build a hospital over a weekend for a nothingburger.

Also the fact that people don't give a shit about it anymore should tell you about how useless this is as a form of political and governmental control. you don't crash the economy if you want people to not want to start revolting. it was a fun two months and sort of cool to think everyone is back to square one in a lot of counties, but every other time economies shit the bed this quickly, fedposting became reality. like in Germany, there was 3 different coup attempts in the 5 years after ww1. this isn't going to go well for anyone in power.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

They may have been done with good intentions at first, but it's flippantly obvious to everyone with a brain that by now it's all about political and governmental control. It's like I've been saying for a while, the powers that be have been waiting for such an exact situation as this. An excuse to panic the masses and get them to do whatever they say. The fact that goalposts are being moved to extend lockdowns further and restrictions getting more and more exceptional is cold hard evidence that they're riding out this cloud 9 power trip as long and as hard as they possibly fucking can.

I think it's a mix of politicians being drunk on power (like you stated), and political strategy to "influence" an upcoming Presidential election.

The economy was doing pretty damn well before all of this happened. The longer these lockdowns are dragged out, the more out of reach it will be for the economy to bounce back before November. I don't doubt for a second that the Democrats and the mainstream media are aware of this.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I think it's a mix of politicians being drunk on power (like you stated), and political strategy to "influence" an upcoming Presidential election.

The economy was doing pretty damn well before all of this happened. The longer these lockdowns are dragged out, the more out of reach it will be for the economy to bounce back before November. I don't doubt for a second that the Democrats and the mainstream media are aware of this.

That's what my old man's been saying, and I'm more than inclined to agree. They're so desperate to make Orange Man look bad that they'll gladly go out of their way to tank an entire goddamn country's economy to do it. As has been brought up here many a time, we're nothing but fodder to them anyway. So what if some untold millions lose their livelihoods as long as they get the sockpuppets they want into office. The ends will always, always justify the means for these megalomaniacs.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Anyone else have the COVID toes symptom?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2994930001

So regarding this article, spouse noticed red lesions on their foot about a week and a half ago. We thought nothing of it. Attributed it to increased use of exercise equipment instead of going outside. Read this article tonight and while it is unconfirmed, the spots are a deep purple and on the tips of the toes. No other symptoms. Unfortunately they cannot confirm if this is a symptom, as testing is hard to come by. But seems like it is found mostly in children (this is not the middle east, my spouse is over 18!) Sometimes adults can get it though.

If this is a sign, then they are likely asymptomatic and so am I, as we have vigorously exchanged bodily fluids over the last few weeks of quarantine. Would love to get an antibody test when they come out, assuming most of the carriers are like us and don't show signs.

Only place I can venture a guess where we got it is the hospital for a small outpatient procedure I had a few weeks ago. Spouse sat in the waiting room roughly 1 hour, we were provided masks, and we wore gloves. Crazy shit.

Alright fetched the official statement for you:

https://cgcop.es/2020/04/09/registro-de-casos-compatibles-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2wv4ocR2eLQGPVSChBuPeDjub6Ay7tAZwqiuWISwYe0EqCPPklhRb3Rdg

It's in spanish, cause they are spanish. I won't bother translating all of it because even I have too much of a life for a text that large, use google translate. But the gist is:

This is just some correlation the feet doctors of spain noticed, they themselves admit they have no scientific evidence of causation, they are merely warning because it seems to appear on asymptomatics. And ask for research.

My interpretation: I think it's just correlation. Here's the thing. Those are clearly lessons and irritations from pressure and friction. Now. If this WAS related to covid then Otterly would be totally right in her suspicion of blood issues as it would indicate an issue with coagulation and irritability.

But you know what also causes those lessions quite commonly? A sudden increase in excercize, specially without proper guidance. And I'm fairly sure most people have suddently increased their excerzice amount since the lockdown, so that'd explain that quite easily.

Furthermore, again, people aren't going to the doctor without covid of something extremely severe. So if you have people with mild symptoms who have therefore been excercizing, it's probably covid. Hence, correlation.

That is not to say it's DEFINITELY not covid, it might be, but as of right now we have no evidence of that.

Outside China

2,481,195 confirmed / 172,860 dead / 608,783 recovered

2389392 / 165406 / 568262 yesterday

Iran

84,802 confirmed / 5,297 dead / 60,965 recovered

83505 / 5209 / 59273 yesterday

USA

825,183 confirmed / 45,070 dead / 75,658 recovered JohnHopkins
827,358 confirmed / 45,442 dead / 75673 recovered Infection2020

784599 / 42138 / 72522 yesterday JohnHopkins
797415 / 42586 / 72522 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

204,178 confirmed / 21,282 dead / 82,514 recovered

200210 / 20852 / 80587 yesterday

Italy

183,957 confirmed / 24,648 dead / 51,600 recovered

181228 / 24114 / 48877 yesterday

France

159,300 confirmed / 20,829 dead / 39,842 recovered

156480 / 20292 / 38036 yesterday

Gemany

148,453 confirmed / 5,086 dead / 99,400 recovered

147065 / 4862 / 91500 yesterday


Ramadama dingdong starts Friday. Is there any islamic countries who puts out trustworthy numbers that we should watch to see if it has an impact?

"Islamic", "trustworthy". CHOOSE ONE.

people have been saying that from the start. but I'll have to agree with what people were saying in the first dozen pages. China wouldn't have sperged out if this was a low mortality, no big deal sort of thing. if the chance of dying from this was similar to just working in a Chinese factory the government would have just told people to shut the fuck up and live their lives. you don't weld people into their homes and build a hospital over a weekend for a nothingburger.

Also the fact that people don't give a shit about it anymore should tell you about how useless this is as a form of political and governmental control. you don't crash the economy if you want people to not want to start revolting. it was a fun two months and sort of cool to think everyone is back to square one in a lot of counties, but every other time economies shit the bed this quickly, fedposting became reality. like in Germany, there was 3 different coup attempts in the 5 years after ww1. this isn't going to go well for anyone in power.

You keep forgetting the china factor. China's hospitals are shit. Chinaman's lungs are made of charcoal and pus. Chinaman's immune system are on suicide watch. China is a pollution goblin hive. You seen any other country where the virus turns people black? No. That's because china sucks. You can't compare chink deathtoll to regular deathtoll.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

That's what my old man's been saying, and I'm more than inclined to agree. They're so desperate to make Orange Man look bad that they'll gladly go out of their way to tank an entire goddamn country's economy to do it. As has been brought up here many a time, we're nothing but fodder to them anyway. So what if some untold millions lose their livelihoods as long as they get the sockpuppets they want into office. The ends will always, always justify the means for these megalomaniacs.

I don't want to be that person who's like "The whole world is out to get Trump! Waaaahh!" However, I can't not connect some dots with this, based on the behavior of the Democrats and the media over the past three years.

Do I think the Democrats are perfectly happy with thousands of dead people and unemployed Americans? Yes, I wouldn't put it past them. They're willing to make these people "take one for the team" if that means the Orange Cheeto Man is out of office. And hey, if they can get more people reliant on the big brother government after this, then that's a bonus for them!

I can't help but think of these famous words by Trump: "They're not after me; they're after you."

Based on the Democrats' heinous behavior during this crisis (Hi there, Nancy Antoinette) ... I can't help but agree with Trump's sentiments. The Democrats are still mad at the American people for electing Trump, and they're out for revenge.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I think it's a mix of politicians being drunk on power (like you stated), and political strategy to "influence" an upcoming Presidential election.

The economy was doing pretty damn well before all of this happened. The longer these lockdowns are dragged out, the more out of reach it will be for the economy to bounce back before November. I don't doubt for a second that the Democrats and the mainstream media are aware of this.

I feel like there is more Hanlon's Razor to this.
I think state governors and city mayors just fucking freaked when cases started spiking and the media turned from "its just a flu, bro" to "THE NEXT BUBONIC PLAGUE!" they all collectively gave a knee-jerk reaction and started closing things down. Now that they committed to the action, they just don't have an exit strategy.

I mean I'm sure there are some galaxy-brained faggots giggling "lol destroy the economy to own Drumpf!" currently in office, but I really think this is more hubris and stupidity than a well-coordinated plot to get Trump out of office.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I feel like there is more Hanlon's Razor to this.
I think state governors and city mayors just fucking freaked when cases started spiking and the media turned from "its just a flu, bro" to "THE NEXT BUBONIC PLAGUE!" they all collectively gave a knee-jerk reaction and started closing things down. Now that they committed to the action, they just don't have an exit strategy.

I mean I'm sure there are some galaxy-brained faggots giggling "lol destroy the economy to own Drumpf!" currently in office, but I really think this is more hubris and stupidity than a well-coordinated plot to get Trump out of office.

I see your point, and I'm sure that's the case with many of these state governments.

That said, I think that the Congressional Democrats have an agenda, based on their actions over the past month. Nancy Pelosi positively looked gleeful when she was talking about the Democrats blocking yet another relief bill, and then showcasing her fridge full of yuppy ice cream. I think the Dems were hoping to delay/hold out on the bill through May, which would have been a killshot for a lot of these small businesses (therefore sabotaging the economy even further in an election year). Then the day after Trump released that damning ad against Pelosi, the Dems got the bill passed (lol). It's just a series of events where I can't help but ask, "Democrats, what is your strategy here?"