Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Cooking Mama]

Apparently in DID lore this means

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I have never been more disappointed in my life.

 

[Negative Nancy]

This livestream is currently playing in the background as I'm downloading it and she was absolutely revelling in the attention following the Anthony Padilla video. This was such a 'moment' for her. You can see her rehashing her performance with a touch of duping delight. She also covers a lot of interesting ground here in terms of her internal world. It's utterly delusional but there's no way she actually believes this. She's having far too much fun.

I had the joy of watching this livestream as well and found a few inconsistencies. Aside from what was already mentioned with the Little coming to the front (not knowing what this whole thing was for according to Chloe) and wanting to answer the question (then saying she doesn't know what the question is).

For example, she says that when she integrated with Nina, the amnesia wall broke down. This would mean that Chloe now remembers her sexual trauma since Nina was the alter that kept most of that trauma in. I'd think she would at least mention that (maybe she does in her integration videos, I haven't watched them) and that she would be much more affected by it since she said beforehand that does not remember any of her trauma.

Another weird instance is when she switches with Kyle and Kyle comes to the front extremely fast (even her gullible chat notices this) completely aware of everything that has been going on and to explain himself. While he is talking, they get to talking about how Pinata and Chloe are engaged yadayada, he says Chloe isn't wearing the ring at the moment (27:07) and knows where exactly it is. I don't understand how he could have known that when he wasn't fronting, this is a moment where she loses a bit of her fake accent too (when she says "It's upstairs") then she quickly recovers.

Also I honestly thought this "I'm getting switchy" stuff was just people here being smart and making fun of her but realizing she actually says that before "switching" was an out of body experience.

 

[comrade666]

Apparently in DID lore this means

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Nan actually had a literal 'cowboy' alter. Tommy was a seven year old boy and this is the only drawing I can find featuring him right now, but Nan threw little animations of him into her videos from time to time.

 

[TardCum]

I'm thoroughly enjoying the input of Craig if I'm honest. Anyway, as promised. For the newcomers to the DissociaDID saga:

As promised here is Nan's timeline. Nan has more ground to cover than Chloe so I didn't include all of her videos. I focused on the relevant videos only. Please let me know if I've missed an important point or if you happen to have links to events mentioned that are unsourced. Thanks to all in thread who have contributed.

Any updates on the timelines from the past 100 pages?

 

[heterotic]

Nan actually had a literal 'cowboy' alter. Tommy was a seven year old boy and this is the only drawing I can find featuring him right now, but Nan threw little animations of him into her videos from time to time.

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Perhaps she made the same tragic mistake we did

 

[Kikimc67]

DID is a disorder that both Nin and Nan have. Here’s a medical point of view on the disorder

Dissociative identity disorder, or multiple personality disorder, is an unusual disorder.
Someone diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder may feel uncertain about their identity and who they are.
They may feel the presence of other identities, each with their own names, voices, personal histories and mannerisms.
Typical symptoms include:

1. feeling like a stranger to yourself
2. feeling like there are different people within you
3. referring to yourself as "we"
4. behaving out of character
5. writing in different handwriting
   
   this doesn’t discredit the actions of Nan. Nan shows signs of DID and appears to not understand their actions as when they were a child they didn’t experience the abuse however this doesn’t excuse their drawings as they knew the consequences of these drawings and should of taken on responsibility for those drawings instead of just saying they don’t remember those drawings!
   

NIN DRAMA

For those who say Nins stories don’t make sense let me explain. When Chloe (Nin) was a child she experience abuse and sadlu developed DID, Her body couldn’t cope with it and her brain made alters to protect her from the trauma so when Nin says she has a good relationship with her dad or had a good childhood remember she doesn’t remember the abuse as she is a host and is supposed to have no trauma. This doesn’t mean she doesn’t have trauma as Nina (previous sexual trauma holder) and many other alters hold her trauma so that she can’t! Now the smoking from Nan may of triggered a flashback which we have no idea what happened with smoking but Nan was told to use a Vape to help Nin. That’s all I know as far from the DissociativeID system as that’s what they provide

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

i'm a fucking gullible rctard

We know what DID is. It's been extensively described and discussed in this thread. There are literal professionals and those who've been through actual trauma in this thread (even if they don't talk about it publicly).

People lie. Oh my god. These are symptoms people can lie about easily because they can fake a new accent or just say they feel a certain way.

 

[Kikimc67]

We know what DID is. It's been extensively described and discussed in this thread. There are literal professionals and those who've been through actual trauma in this thread (even if they don't talk about it publicly).

People lie. Oh my god. These are symptoms people can lie about easily because they can fake a new accent or just say they feel a certain way.

It’s really hard to fake it as well as you think they did. DID is very complex watch other DID people and you’ll see that it’s very common and very hard to fake. Their mannerism change and a lot changes with them as well. Ask anyone in the DID community and they will say that they’ve or faking as this disorder is very hard and complex to fake. You can pretend yes like Trisha but if you sit there and say they fake it you don’t understand the situation

 

[Negative Nancy]

DID is a disorder that both Nin and Nan have. Here’s a medical point of view on the disorder

Dissociative identity disorder, or multiple personality disorder, is an unusual disorder.
Someone diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder may feel uncertain about their identity and who they are.
They may feel the presence of other identities, each with their own names, voices, personal histories and mannerisms.
Typical symptoms include:

1. feeling like a stranger to yourself
2. feeling like there are different people within you
3. referring to yourself as "we"
4. behaving out of character
5. writing in different handwriting
   
   this doesn’t discredit the actions of Nan. Nan shows signs of DID and appears to not understand their actions as when they were a child they didn’t experience the abuse however this doesn’t excuse their drawings as they knew the consequences of these drawings and should of taken on responsibility for those drawings instead of just saying they don’t remember those drawings!

...and you are? Their therapist? Their psychologist? Or someone who watches their channel and eats up everything they say? The source you quoted I bet Chloe has linked down in one of her videos as well. (Don't let her see you call it "multiple personality disorder" though, she might get switchy.)

Guess what? the points you listed? Anyone can fake that! My handwriting differs so much depending on when I'm writing and how I am feeling that I am curious to know if I'll be able to get my own DID diagnosis from Pottergate. Anyone could refer to themselves as we. Everyone behaves out of character from time to time. Anyone can come up with made-up headmates and give them a personality like they are roleplaying. Everything you give as an example / proof as to why these people have DID could so easily be faked.

This doesn’t mean she doesn’t have trauma as Nina (previous sexual trauma holder) and many other alters hold her trauma so that she can’t!

Well... That's what I'm saying too. She integrated with Nina. She said the amnesia walls broke down. She should know what her sexual trauma was. She wasn't at all affected by it because it doesn't exist. She probably forgot the lies she made up as Nina to remember she needs to lie about a sexual trauma.

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

It’s really hard to fake it as well as you think they did. DID is very complex watch other DID people and you’ll see that it’s very common and very hard to fake. Their mannerism change and a lot changes with them as well. Ask anyone in the DID community and they will say that they’ve or faking as this disorder is very hard and complex to fake. You can pretend yes like Trisha but if you sit there and say they fake it you don’t understand the situation

I think I've got a pretty good handle on it thanks.

Edit: Removed an accidental TMI... pwease fowgive me

 

[ANGRYDOVE]

just reviewed the video "Meet our childhood best friend"( saved in the OP. )

Tinfoil for speculation but I felt like her eyes were extremely telling in that video.

When the childhood friend, Anna, is talking about how she interacted with Nadia as a kid (time stamp 1:06) I feel like you can visually see Chloe's ego inflating.

I believe this is because Chloe's longtime friend has fully adopted her DID story enough to fill in the blanks for her and that makes her proud of her ability to manipulate and plant stories.

Again tinfoil but I feel like this just exudes off of her and I'd love to see if anyone else sees it.

At timestamp (1:24) and throughout the whole video, she smirks but I think she's surprised she got someone support her lie, especially someone who's known her much of her life.

Someone like a childhood friend really adds credibility to her claims and you can almost see this awareness on her face the whole video.

To me her eyes and eyebrows look like a mother trying to coach thier daughter through a performance the entire video. And that's sus. I need to know if that's just me.

At pretty much any point in the video when Anna starts talking you can see Chloes eyes locked on her and bulging whenever Anna says something about Chloes "DID".

Curious if other people find this as damning or if I'm nitpicking.

 

[Negative Nancy]

It’s really hard to fake it as well as you think they did. DID is very complex watch other DID people and you’ll see that it’s very common and very hard to fake. Their mannerism change and a lot changes with them as well. Ask anyone in the DID community and they will say that they’ve or faking as this disorder is very hard and complex to fake. You can pretend yes like Trisha but if you sit there and say they fake it you don’t understand the situation

You sound like you are in your feelings right now, I'd recommend you stop posting before the inevitable powerleveling. You aren't doing anything other than parroting what they say in their videos, you should be looking at unbiased sources to get your information on DID.

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

Nan actually had a literal 'cowboy' alter. Tommy was a seven year old boy and this is the only drawing I can find featuring him right now, but Nan threw little animations of him into her videos from time to time.

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modernized rule 34: if you can think it, DID munchies have already made OC personas for it

 

[nincompoop]

Stop with the class shit. The idea that Chloe could be "upper middle class" under the British definition is laughable. Money =/= class. She's your bog standard Brit with your bog standard suburban upbringing and bog standard parents with bog standard jobs. Don't kid yourself that anything about her isn't completely vanilla.

 

[Kikimc67]

Secondly what I say doesn’t deserve LGBT slurs to my account either because I understand

You sound like you are in your feelings right now, I'd recommend you stop posting before the inevitable powerleveling. You aren't doing anything other than parroting what they say in their videos, you should be looking at unbiased sources to get your information on DID.

I get them from medical information and I can’t change your opinions but you’re being disrespectful humans. Secondly DID is very complicated and yes Nins doctor gave her symptoms of her disorder which other did specialists say not to do as it’s a disorder which is not studied enough

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

My handwriting differs so much depending on when I'm writing and how I am feeling that I am curious to know if I'll be able to get my own DID diagnosis from Pottergate

I hand letter. I have developed multiple hand writing styles in just a few months. It wasn't hard, and honestly even in the beginning it was easy to fake hand writing.

Likewise, I went through and took the DES II that the Pottergate Center took. I would fall in the OSDD category just because of my own experiences (won't TMI as to why, but I certainly do not have a dissociative disorder). That scale also has been shown to be unable to tell 'real' DID from college students trained to fake DID.

 

[Bananasaurus]

It’s really hard to fake it as well as you think they did. DID is very complex watch other DID people and you’ll see that it’s very common and very hard to fake. Their mannerism change and a lot changes with them as well. Ask anyone in the DID community and they will say that they’ve or faking as this disorder is very hard and complex to fake. You can pretend yes like Trisha but if you sit there and say they fake it you don’t understand the situation

"DID is totally real, just ask anyone in the DID community and they will confirm that they're not making it up for attention!"

"You need to suffer from terrible repeated early childhood trauma in order to develop DID but it's super common!"

Yea okay. This is not a website for kids, which is very obviously what you are. You're parroting everything Chloe says. Go find some better role models, malingering isn't cool.

 

[EntitleDID]

I just made an account to point out that not only is it suspicious af that Chloe is taking down all of the social media accounts that are getting posted here, but that one thing that keeps on bothering me and I haven't seen anyone else point out is that if she had DID, especially the very overt form she tries to portray, she would not be able to access at least half of the account because of dissociative amnesia.

For the sake of comparison, I'll keep it vague because frankly no one here needs to know about my personal stuff, but I deal with dissociative amnesia and thanks to email notifications I know that in the past 6 months I've had at least around 5 different reddit accounts of which I somewhat remember 2. It's honestly fucking impossible, if you have such an extreme form of DID, to know the passwords let alone email accounts each social media profile is linked to.

Kind of related to this: if she had DID we would have been able to find separate accounts for a considerable number of alters. I mean, she claims her alters are completely separate people but expects them all to use one mail and share social media accounts, let alone post consistently on the same channel? That's bloody ridiculous. She has claimed to experience episodes of dissociative fugue but no alter of hers has ever created a separate social media account, using their own identity, even as a young, social teen in college?

And while we're on the topic of dissociative amnesia, even if she had blocked off all the extreme childhood abuse that allegedly had to take place for her to have a DID diagnosis, she would have some idea, even if somewhat vague, of said abuse. When you get triggered you are, at least emotionally, going through the traumatic experience again. You can have amnesia walls, sure, but if your 'system' is so communicative and public with their experiences, someone would have slipped up at some point. Hell, to avoid being triggered, you need to know what your triggers are, and that gives some idea, no matter how small, of the trauma you've experienced.

And just like others before me have pointed out, just because you don't remember your childhood trauma, that doesn't make you remember your childhood as a happy one. A kid that dissociates on the regular basis needed to develop DID will appear stand-offish, withdrawn and absent-minded. They are the type of kid that doesn't care about getting attention from either parents, peers or teachers. In fact, people with a freeze response to trauma are the opposite of attention-seeking. Because they have internalized that people are dangerous, and therefore any kind of attention is a threat. When there's a trigger, you'll notice it because of how uncharacteristic it is for them to openly show something is troubling them (if they happen to have a different response, such as fight or flight) or because they will just shut down entirely. Traumatized kids reenact their trauma, either as a desensitization technique, a way to express their distress, or because they've grown up in an environment where the abuse has been normalized to such a radical degree. If you interact with that child daily, you'll notice that something is off. Dissociation is linked to a freeze response to trauma, and dissociative identity disorder requires that kid to repeatedly have a freeze response in separate traumatic instances for long enough that the part taking that abuse becomes independent and can't integrate in order to help the child survive. Freeze goes from being a response to trauma to becoming the norm for kids with fucked up childhoods who are more prone to displaying this kind of response, whether they have DID, other kinds of dissociative disorders or CPTSD.

No one around Chloe noticed any kind of behavior associated with a freeze response. She is described as quite the opposite, in fact, by her friends and family in numerous occasions. Yes, everyone experiences dissociation somewhat differently and 'every system is different'. But when what someone is saying doesn't add up, at all, I'm gonna be skeptical and question their motives, especially if they are making money 'educating' people and switching on camera and acting as the face of those who suffer with DID on YT.

I hope this didn't come off as too bitter, I just have been watching from the sidelines for a couple of years and don't get how no one's called her out on this. Survivors of childhood trauma deserve to be respected, but when they need to be held accountable, hold them fucking accountable and question them. But with Youtube's 'anti-bullying' policies, I can understand why the bigger influencers are sitting this one out. It's just very unfair that Chloe is able to get away with the inconsistencies and shady shit she's pulled, but that's how YouTube works after all. Never did I think I would be thankful for something Trisha Paytas did, yet here I am.

 

[heterotic]

DID is a disorder that both Nin and Nan have. Here’s a medical point of view on the disorder

It’s really hard to fake it as well as you think they did. DID is very complex watch other DID people and you’ll see that it’s very common and very hard to fake. Their mannerism change and a lot changes with them as well. Ask anyone in the DID community and they will say that they’ve or faking as this disorder is very hard and complex to fake. You can pretend yes like Trisha but if you sit there and say they fake it you don’t understand the situation

If you actually took the time to read the thread you'd find all of the research and studies we've referenced in our discussions, along with actual clinicians participating in the thread.

Many studies have been done with actors and DID patients to show that psychiatrists cannot tell the difference between someone who is faking and someone who has been diagnosed with it.

Sincerely, shut the fuck up, you idiot.

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

Now the smoking from Nan may of triggered a flashback which we have no idea what happened with smoking but Nan was told to use a Vape to help Nin. That’s all I know as far from the DissociativeID system as that’s what they provide

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btw if you're a child (just speculating) you should leave this forum immediately. and having adult "alters" doesn't count.