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Gorilla Tessellator said:
I don't think these are smart elites planning for some grand scheme.
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Considering the war gaming months before the outbreak, there seems to be many who had foreknowledge of the pandemic. That kind of uncanny, fortuitous coincidence is ludicrously unlikely.

Looking back even some of the "leaked" Chinese footage of the atrocities committed to contain the outbreak, they seem like they were possibly false. Like the one where the guy comically folds over and just dies, hamming it up - we know it doesn't work like that; like where they fog entire cities - we know that that is pointless and they would have, too. How many of those welded-in-their-homes videos were legit? How many were staged? Who was recording that close to the police? We know what they do to people who disobey like that, how likely is it that they let that happen.

What if the worst part of the bioweapon is the psychological warfare wrapped around it like an egg roll with a coarse fungal center?
 
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Cast Iron Pan said:
Considering the war gaming months before the outbreak, there seems to be many who had foreknowledge of the pandemic. That kind of uncanny, fortuitous coincidence is ludicrously unlikely.

Looking back even some of the "leaked" Chinese footage of the atrocities committed to contain the outbreak, they seem like they were possibly false. Like the one where the guy comically folds over and just dies, hamming it up - we know it doesn't work like that; like where they fog entire cities - we know that that is pointless and they would have, too. How many of those welded-in-their-homes videos were legit? How many were staged? Who was recording that close to the police? We know what they do to people who disobey like that, how likely is it that they let that happen.

What if the worst part of the bioweapon is the psychology warfare wrapped around it like an egg roll with a coarse fungal center?
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I'll look for the exact one, but a guest on Joe Rogan predicted in his book that a coronavirus like SARS or MERS would come out of China at some time in the future, just because of the wet markets and the food they eat, multiplied by the massive population of that country.
 
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STUNNING AND BRAVE. THEY'RE HEROES.

Seriously though ... Imagine the government telling you that your whole livelihood is "non-essential" because we needed to protect our doctors and nurses ... And then you see this shit.
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And things like this will be saved and remembered, so the next time something like this hits people will just ignore any entreaties/demands by the government.
 
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New Jersey is making a plan to reopen:

"The six points Murphy presented are:

  • Sustained reductions in new cases: The governor said state officials will look for a 14-day trend showing sustained drops in new cases, hospitalizations and other metics.
  • Expand testing in the state: Murphy said he wants to at least double testing in the state. Health care workers and first responders will still be prioritized, but the governor wants the ability for all residents to be tested.
  • Robust contact tracing: The governor said he wants an “army” of people to perform contact tracing so new cases or outbreaks could be immediately tracked and mitigated.
  • Safe places for isolation: People who test positive need to have proper contacts with officials so they can get needed support service so they can remain in quarantine.
  • An economic restart: Murphy announced he created a commission to advise on the process of reopening.
  • Resiliency: Officials need to prepare for the possibility of a resurgence"
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Gov. Murphy unveils 6-point coronavirus reopening strategy for N.J. with no timetable to lift lockdown restrictions

Gov. Phil Murphy said the current stay-at-home, social distancing and business closure orders will remain 'in its entirety until further notice.'
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Sorry, don’t know how to archive videos on mobile, but this clip from Tucker was fantastic: NYC Shop Owner Opens Up Retail Store in Defiance of Lockdown
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WHOA! Archiving those eyebrows, I know that much.
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Just watched thirty minutes of Russian crash videos. Clips come in from all over the country, primarily major cities. Apartment blocks, small and large, in profusion in these big cities. Made to order for easy transmission of the ChiCom Flu. Scary!

Added: A very good point was made about states, cities and towns suffering from tax revenue shortages due to the house arrests. Don't be surprised if a number of these states/cities/towns place tax increases, bonds, or both on the November ballot. There can be only one way to vote on these - NO. They shoved their house arrests up our asses, kept people from working and shopping. They can figure how to pay for it now, without any extra money from us.
 
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Cast Iron Pan said:
Considering the war gaming months before the outbreak, there seems to be many who had foreknowledge of the pandemic. That kind of uncanny, fortuitous coincidence is ludicrously unlikely.
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To be fair, scientists have been saying for years that either pandemic flu or something like a novel Coronavirus would be the next Big One. SARSv1.0 and MERS research was refunded but everyone in the field knew that both viruses we got lucky with; they weren’t quite suited for wide spread. In that context, I dont think id read too much into the wargaming. A corona outbreak was extremely likely to have happened and it’s horrible/grimly amusing to see various bodies reacting as if it was totally unexpected when scientists have been nagging for years about it. The problem with politicians is that they, like most people, don’t understand risk is a combination of likelihood AND impact. They are still in the mindset that medicine has conquered infectious disease and they vastly underestimate how often ‘near misses’ happen. You see it in past coverage of things like SARS and swine flu - there always a scientist saying ‘we need to be wary, one day one of these will be bad’ and then the media shreds them and calls them doom mongers. Very few media outlets of any type have good quality science coverage or medical coverage.

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Looking back even some of the "leaked" Chinese footage of the atrocities committed to contain the outbreak, they seem like they were possibly false.
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I wouldn’t put anything past the CCP. We said earlier in the thread that the city wide fogging was for propaganda purposes. I would assume that anything that ‘officially leaks’ from China has a message behind it. I would be very interested to know what their real numbers were.
 
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Sweden – the country where boring civil servants also have fans who get tattoos of them! http://archive.li/VeUbO
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He tattooed Tegnell: Of course I'm a fan

State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has become a name for everyone's lips during the corona crisis. Now his face is forever engraved on a 32-year-old Stockholm left arm.
"Of course I'm a fan," says Gustav Lloyd Agerblad.

Gustav Lloyd Agerblad had about 20 tattoos since before: the motifs include cats, unicorns, tributes to the women in the me too movement and to the sports club Djurgården.
Then, on Monday morning, he has another tattoo, this time with the ever-current state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell at the Public Health Authority.
- He seems to be a very sympathetic person who instills a great calm with me, and I think he does this to a large part of the population through his way of being.
- Tegnell deserves solidarity and cred. He has stood back straight through the crisis.
It is still too early to say whether Sweden's more open strategy against the corona pandemic has been successful or not, but Gustav Lloyd Agerblad will leave the tattoo even if it turns out that Tegnell was wrong.
- If it turns out that the road that Sweden has chosen unfortunately has led to more people's death than it could have done, it is of course deeply unfortunate, but at the same time I think we should be proud that we in Sweden have been able to on our own responsibility move us relatively freely.
He thinks it is frightening how some on the Internet express themselves about Anders Tegnell, and says that the general tone of the debate has been screwed up in recent years.
- It's just to see how some express themselves about this tattoo. I do not think that it is Tegnell who divides the people, but rather that it is people who want to be divided from each other.
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Morning News roundown. Dunno if I'll talk hospital news in the afternoon for now it seems I'm finally officially back to being just a student so I'll only get news from my contsct unless shit hits the fan real bad. This is good news. It means for now the hospital is seeing no change.

On national news Vox is now claiming the lockdown was terrorism. And I finally got it. I now at long last understand why Vox is like it is. They're the spanish version of communist china: they have no originality. Let me break this down for ya: when we heard of Italy's collapsed funeraries, they photoshoped coffins into Gran Via and bitched about spanish funeraries collapsing. When we heard about british police allowing muslims to go to church, they photoshoped praying muslims into the streets of madrid and bitched about spanish police allowing muslims to pray on the streets. When we heard the american right bitch about google's obvious infringement on people's rights to privacy and censoring people, they went full retard about the spanish government being part of the "internet gestapo" and working with wazzap to censor them... fucking somehow. When the WHO went full retard about immunity they went to facebook mom groups about lifting the lockdown being genocide. And now that the american right wing is pointing out that the lockdown does go against their consitutional rights, they're bitching about the spanish government going against our constitutional rights with the lockdown. Much like communist china, they don't create, they only make poor copies of what their betters design. Fucking hilarious. Now that I spoted the pattern I'mma just keep pointing it out and laughing at it. This is fantastic.

For the record my opinion on lockdowns is the same as ever. They should've been more flexible and only gone this heavy in areas like madrid. There was literally no point in closing some areas. But overall they have been smooth and are being lifted efficiently so I give spain a passing grade... not a 10. That'd probably go to hungary and poland. And I guess germany if we do see their data added to that web and it corroborates what we saw. But a passing grade nonetheless. And for the record. My non-expert legal opinion on their bullshit is, quite simply, they are wrong. Spanish alarm state laws allow for everything the government has done so long as congress revises it and aproves of it every 15 days and the autonomies enforce it in their territory. The government did absolutely everything by the book and no law was broken or even bended IN SPAIN. And that includes the moments I bitch about like when the Junta de Andalucia stole our PPE after the Healthcare Ministry had taken the other half. That was a massive dick move. I hate them for it. I know I cannot take them to court over it, because the law does allow them to do it. Evil=/=Illegal. Meanwhile I'd say the american right is also correct in their assessment that the american left has heavily bended and broken their laws. From what I can see. The american legal system is a lot more stringent with these things, and meanwhile the democrats in certain areas used it to push bullshit into the books (like fuckint gun regulations of all things) and crossed the lines in many ways. As opposed to our gov, they weren't just being idiotic and evil, they were also going against the law. Specially with that "protesting is not essential" bullshit. Btw here in cadiz we had a protest like 3 days ago. Literally only like 6 people went, it was really ridiculous. It was also undisturbed. Because even though spanish alarm law does give the gov the right to quash that shit, Cadiz has a mayor from Podemos, and unlike the PP he's not stupid enough to break a protest by force. That shit's horrid. If I find the video I'll edit the post to add it.

On international news. There's been some fuckery in NY with the second amendment infringement. And between that, Cuomo's utter incompetence and De Blasio's tyranny I'm just here readying the popcorn for when they do a boog. Seriously that city is a god damned powder keg at this point.

And finally the weather forecast. Clowdy with a chance of rain. Cold as shit. Birds not chirping so much because I imagine even they think "why is it winter all of a sudden?" Personally I like the chirps but I also like the cold. So net neutral. We should enjoy life more, honestly.
 
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