Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Never Scored]

That's true. But I'm not really comfortable sacrificing old people.

And also if the old patients fill up the hospitals then young people start dying too because there's no critical care resources available.

I'm not either, that's why we pay them to stay home until the threat has passed either via herd immunity or a vaccination. We lockdown the vulnerable to protect them as opposed to everyone.

 

[Burd Turglar]

Per expected, Wisconsin is just now starting to get real weird. Trip to the grocery, shelves are noticeably lacking and employees are spacing things out in ways to make it appear as there's more food. Masks and glovers almost everywhere I look except for the dindus. Started counting heads at the door and limiting entry and exit points. All of this couldn't possibly have anything to do with numbers rising now that we're having this heat wave of almost 60 degrees outside.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Well, with Wuhan destroying roads, welding apartment buildings shut, gathering people up with steel boxes in pickup trucks, building massive, makeshift death camps from seacans and silencing anyone who reported on it early, who would have thought it wasn't Captain Tripps-level?
The fucking Commies are the only reason this didn't get handled much more effectively from the start. Between the local government panicking from the get go, to the absence of free media allowing the disease to spread "unknowingly" (fuck you China) and the way that 5 MILLION POSSIBLE DISEASE VECTORS were allowed unimpeded global travel until AFTER they finally admitted there was a problem, this is an entirely Chinese economic attack on a global scale, and even the brainwashed re.tards who spout the CCP line for slave shekels are starting to read the writing on the wall.

I'm starting to wonder that maybe China had a much worse strain at the start and a good chunk of what escaped was a less lethal mutation for the most part. Maybe the less lethal infected easier and crowed out the original and what we saw was just a fizzle. It would explain the China freakout over something we just didnt see outside of Italy and NYC.

 

[iforgotmypassword]

I'm not either, that's why we pay them to stay home until the threat has passed either via herd immunity or a vaccination. We lockdown the vulnerable to protect them as opposed to everyone.

Agreed and even then you can't make them, you can make companies pay at risk employees their salaries as if they were on sick leave and stuff like that so the people that need to can stay home, but if you are 90 and want to take the risk of dying to have your morning coffee in your usual shop that's your decision to make, not the government's.

 

[Burd Turglar]

I'm starting to wonder that maybe China had a much worse strain at the start and a good chunk of what escaped was a less lethal mutation for the most part. Maybe the less lethal infected easier and crowed out the original and what we saw was just a fizzle. It would explain the China freakout over something we just didnt see outside of Italy and NYC.

This is just some armchair shit but I think a serious determining factor in a lot of this is regional sociological factors and weather. Look at how China and NY are, overcrowded and packed into very small spaces. Italy was just spitting into the wind during the beginning of this and has a huge chinese worker presence. Meanwhile, in the midwest, you mix the awful weather and lack of winter travel and combine it with major hubs and you can see why the shit didn't spread much outside of the hubs like Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee....yet.

That's just my personal pondering though and I would probably defer to someone like @Otterly or the like 2 other people here who actually have experience in more advanced medicine than just an at home nurse or some shit.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

No way to file for stimulus without an email address. Trying to help someone without one out and thought there has to be another way. No option for the oldies who don't use computers, sadly.

Speaking of which, there was an April Fool's joke about a hotline for something like this. The phone number is real. A real sex hotline.
Article about the prank

When you dial the 1-800 number listed, a woman’s voice says, “Hey, sexy. Welcome to 1-800 Phone Sex. It’s good to hear from you—so good, I’m going to give you five free minutes on this call.” The message then asks to enter a credit card number.

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An Iowan rep is trying to fix this problem for Iowans. Hopefully the issue is fixed everywhere else.
Iowan rep reminds the IRS that not
everyone has internet access
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[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

3,030,721 confirmed / 212,352 dead / 847,518 recovered

2953687 / 206462 / 815488 yesterday

USA

1,012,399 confirmed / 58,348 dead / 115,648 recovered JohnHopkins
1,016,457 confirmed / 58,055 dead / 142,238 recovered Infection2020

988189 / 56255 / 111337 yesterday JohnHopkins
997414 / 56681 / 138990 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

232,128 confirmed / 23,822 dead / 123,903 recovered

229422 / 23521 / 120832 yesterday

Italy

201,505 confirmed / 27,359 dead / 68,941 recovered

199414 / 26977 / 66624 yesterday

France

169,053 confirmed / 23,694 dead / 47,775 recovered

165963 / 23327 / 46293 yesterday

Germany

159,912 confirmed / 6,314 dead / 117,400 recovered

158758 / 6126 / 114500

 

[RodgerDodger]

This is just some armchair shit but I think a serious determining factor in a lot of this is regional sociological factors and weather. Look at how China and NY are, overcrowded and packed into very small spaces. Italy was just spitting into the wind during the beginning of this and has a huge chinese worker presence. Meanwhile, in the midwest, you mix the awful weather and lack of winter travel and combine it with major hubs and you can see why the shit didn't spread much outside of the hubs like Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee....yet.

That's just my personal pondering though and I would probably defer to someone like @Otterly or the like 2 other people here who actually have experience in more advanced medicine than just an at home nurse or some shit.

When looking at Italy everyone misses that almost the same thing happened from the Flu in 2017. The Northern Italy healthcare system was overwhelmed in almost exactly the same way. So the problem probably is not Corona-Chan, but rather it is resources and infrastructure in Northern Italy.

 

[Burd Turglar]

When looking at Italy everyone misses that almost the same thing happened from the Flu in 2017. The Northern Italy healthcare system was overwhelmed in almost exactly the same way. So the problem probably is not Corona-Chan, but rather it is resources and infrastructure in Northern Italy.

Isn't that also where the substantial numbers of chinese workers are as well? I believe it's a lot of the leather trade and some other such shit? I'm not discounting what you're saying either as I don't know much of anything about how they handle any flu outbreaks or whatever. All I know is what I know about 2017 strain, shit almost killed me all the way over here in burgerland so I can see where you're coming from.

 

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No more buying entire trees worth of TP without a mask starting Monday. Remember: It's your patriotic duty to be so terrified you stop thinking rationally about what our tinpot dictators are demanding of you.

Fun fact: It says face coverings.

These are all "face coverings."

 

[knobslobbin]

Weird how antibody testing isn't widespread yet. Oh I know, if a third of Americans suddenly found out they had it already with no symptoms the panic bubble might burst! Let's all keep guessing in a breathless panic instead, courtesy of our moron leaders on both sides of the aisle.

I for one welcome our pandemic overlords, may they rule for a thousand years or until a vaccine comes out.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Please be true...

The people who leave NYC will be replaced quickly. There are people whose life's goal is to move to NYC. Detroit isn't in the same league. The same way LA attracts "actors" NYC attracts "actors" "models" "comedians" "shitheads" etc.

It would take a nuclear bomb to turn it into Detroit.

NYC won’t turn into Detroit, but the people who migrate to the city are usually people who don’t make very much money because, as you noted, they move there with pipe dreams that they’ll become rich and famous. Most end up paying 4 figures in rent to live with 5 roommates. As an anecdotal example, one of my personal lolcows has an orbiter who moved to Brooklyn in the middle of the pandemic, so clearly they’re not very bright to begin with. This person is a “writer” and “actor/comedian”. Their FB bio is:

These are not the people who will restore a tax base in NYC if the normies all leave. Especially not considering NY state’s abysmal rainy day fund:

 

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From the Presidental Election thread, hat tip @heyitsmike.

Tell you what, this 2020 Dem field sure had some real winners in it...
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The fool. Doesn't he know they're god's chosen people and thus goyim laws do not apply to them?

I remember when a church decided to remain open -- which they are ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED TO DO -- and were torn to shit in the media over it. What about the Jews in NYC?

Crickets.

And didn't ramadan start last week? Are the mosques ignoring the rules?

 

[iforgotmypassword]

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Over here they made using face coverings mandatory to go outside, this has been quite handy for robbers, crime had dropped a lot since the quite strict quarantine came in place, but with this new rule not only can they go out again without fear of getting picked up by police, but the face covering is very convenient too, victims can't give a full description of the attacker and cameras can't identify them neither.

I get why this rule is in place but they should have thought a bit more about where it was feasible and where it would just add to the problems, I can't see a workaround myself but hell, this is the kind of stuff that politicians and advisors are thinking all day about, and they still are as incompetent as always.

 

[Jaimas]

From the Presidental Election thread, hat tip @heyitsmike.

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The fool. Doesn't he know they're god's chosen people and thus goyim laws do not apply to them?

I remember when a church decided to remain open -- which they are ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED TO DO -- and were torn to shit in the media over it. What about the Trump's Chosen People in NYC?

Crickets.

And didn't ramadan start last week? Are the mosques ignoring the rules?

Someone knows he's destined to never get another term again.

 

[FatalTater]

This may be a dumb thought but why the hell are so many of us eating like pigs with a mukbang channel during this? Is this one of the lesser known symptoms, the inability to put down a fork? Are the 5G towers sending messages directly into our brains that tell us to eat, eat, eat? I understand a little boredom grazing, but personally I've been craving Foodie Beauty style meals, three times or more a day and I haven't eaten like that since I was a physically active (pre internet) teenager. Wtf.

 

[Jaimas]

This may be a dumb thought but why the hell are so many of us eating like pigs with a mukbang channel during this? Is this one of the lesser known symptoms, the inability to put down a fork? Are the 5G towers sending messages directly into our brains that tell us to eat, eat, eat? I understand a little boredom grazing, but personally I've been craving Foodie Beauty style meals, three times or more a day and I haven't eaten like that since I was a physically active (pre internet) teenager. Wtf.

Stress eating is an instinctive human behavior dating back to a time when famines were frequent.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Over here they made using face coverings mandatory to go outside, this has been quite handy for robbers, crime had dropped a lot since the quite strict quarantine came in place, but with this new rule not only can they go out again without fear of getting picked up by police, but the face covering is very convenient too, victims can't give a full description of the attacker and cameras can't identify them neither.

I get why this rule is in place but they should have thought a bit more about where it was feasible and where it would just add to the problems, I can't see a workaround myself but hell, this is the kind of stuff that politicians and advisors are thinking all day about, and they still are as incompetent as always.

Yeah there is no workaround you can't ban people from wearing masks during a pandemic. Mask related crimes will be the new normal for the foreseeable future. Blacks need not worry going into a bank with a bandana over their face and having the silent alarm pressed any more.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Don't be surprised if a number of these states/cities/towns place tax increases, bonds, or both on the November ballot. There can be only one way to vote on these - NO.

If people aren't back to working their full hours and still having to subsist on Unemployment, I can definitely see people voting no because they lack the money to pay any sort of increased taxes. My specific area of KiwiLand has been saddled with enough small millages over the past decade that they've started to add up enough to make homeowners feel they're being taxed to their limits with some newer millages barely passing when they might otherwise get stronger support if there weren't as many already being assessed.

Also, while I'm sympathetic and think some of the governors have way overstepped (MI especially) please don't do these protests at 7 a.m. on a Sunday. Most people will still be sleeping. Not exactly a way to endear your point to people.

The problem with any current-day protest is that it may start off with good intentions and purposes only to have the extremists and fringe element join in and corrupt it into something that gives them their 15 minutes of fame and focuses less on the original reason behind the protest. That doesn't endear people, either. People protesting at 7 AM are lucky they didn't run afoul of any local noise ordinances.

That's because a lot of the criticism against the protesters totally misrepresents their argument. They assume people who want things opened up or feel like their constitutional rights are being violated must be in denial that the virus exists at all, therefore it's poetic justice that they catch it.

In some other thread/post, I opined that the average person simply wants to have some idea of when they might be able to work their full hours again and do everyday activities without worry after what they've seen, heard, or read about COVID-19. This gets lost in the political rhetoric and thr activists that care for nothing more than seizing attention for themselves.

I mean, contact tracing is... certainly something that worries me a lot due to its ethical ramifications.

It's concerning, but it might be necessary if someone were to get COVID-19 and honestly can't identify who all they encountered in close proximity in the past 14 days. I'm not sure what other foolproof methods exist to contact trace.

The legislature met today, and will be meeting tomorrow, and Thursday. The Senate passed two resolutions (Resolution 111, archive; Resolution 112, archive) asking Governor Whitmer to allow elective surgeries to resume and construction companies to open; and to change our guidelines for "essential" workers to match the federal guidelines.

This would be a good step in the right direction and might mean I could return to working at the office. However, I'm not going to think about this much until something concrete happens. With Whitmer, I'm not too optimistic for now because she still hasn't presented a plan to move forward. Conversely, @GenociderSyo's post about New Jersey's proposal to reopen stuff is the type of plan I'd like to see Michigan come up with -- even if it was simply a first draft for further discussion. That would certainly help give the citizens more reassurances than what they have now.

What‘s the possibility of there being a “cry wolf” scenario regarding a second wave? I.E., a wave that‘s actually deadly and hits once quarantine ends but everyone tells the govt and the media to fuck off because they overhyped the initial wave?

The more the media makes themselves look untrustworthy, the greater the likelihood. The current-day media's tendency to overhype everything nothingburger could come back to bite them hard if this scenario were to happen.
(Edited for spelling, clarity, and grammar)

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1255089381016207362 (https://archive.vn/Nx2Mz)

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