Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

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I will never stop until @BoxerShorts47 admits that Flippos are doomed to an eternity of being ditch-diggers, if male, and wiping butts in nursing homes, if female. There's a reason America lets flip women emigrate to the US pretty easily and has no desire to let male flips in at all. you can train flip women to be lower-skilled healthcare workers. The entire history of flipland proves pretty conclusively that you can't train male flips to do anything useful at all. They're good unskilled agricultural workers, I guess. But America already has more than enough of those.

In conclusion, I thank God every single day for having the foresight to keep us a wide ocean away from those greasy little monkeys, and I wish the Japanese had washed them away with a cleansing fire when they had the chance. The best part of going to Heaven, when I die, is knowing with absolute certainty that there will be no flips there. King Jesus would never allow such undesirables into His eternal paradise.
 
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SIGSEGV said:
Why yes, I am attracted to women closer to my own age. What gave it away?
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The bit where you're clearly an adult, I think...

I always suspect these hebephiles, pedos, etc., are literally intimidated by women their own ages. Why the hell else would you want a teenager if not for their lack of experience/judgement? Makes it easier to be a sick fuck if they're not as worldly-wise.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
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Hellbound Hellhound said:
No.

Please stop.
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It's a bit late for that, unfortunately.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
Now I fully expect to receive your hatred, but the ephebophile perverts out here have a legitimate point in that sexual attraction to teenagers is normal (don't tell me otherwise you fucking liar) and it is a recent construct of our society that it has been stigmatized. Anybody trying to argue otherwise is doing little more than virtue signalling. It is also obviously true, to any reasonable person, that there is a huge difference in the body and intellect of a teenager versus an actual, prepubescent child.

What's of more interest is WHY it is stigmatized and whether or not the stigma is valid. Generally we stigmatize something because we perceive there being some sort of social or personal harm.

The harm in the case of teenager-adult relationships is the perception that the teenager lacks enough wisdom and will therefore be subject to manipulation, and that the relationships will disrupt the normal flow of life in a modern society.

The first argument is more relevant to modern concerns due to the combination of a shift away from arranged marriage towards love marriage and because teenagers are fucking dipshits nowadays. Arranged marriages have tons of drawbacks but at least they tend to be more practical, which is something teenagers are not known for prioritizing. On the other hand, you cannot expect a flighty teenager, with their bad judgment, to make their own sound decisions about who to start a family with. Also, I personally believe that children/teenagers nowadays are even larger idiots because of their upbringings, where they're sheltered from any sort of responsibility well into adulthood.

So, as long as society is operating under a love marriage model, it is pretty much necessary to ban adults from marrying teens, and because our society coddles kids that becomes even more necessary since their ability to make a good decision is even more compromised. There are flaws in this, though. Firstly, it leaves teen-teen relationships open free, which is possibly worse. As much as it's assumed that an adult poses a risk because of their greater capacity of manipulation, it's assumed that putting two dipshits together will somehow be guaranteed to turn out a better option. So I'm largely in favor of social repression of teenage marriage/sexuality, but that's repression IN GENERAL, without discrimination towards age.

The second point is the disruption of life flow. Basically, as long as you're married, all of your life decisions are going to be chained to your spouse, and if you have a child then you're chained to them too. In an agrarian or even an early industrial society, where 90% of the population is just going to work the same plot of land that they were born on until the day they die, they might as well pair off as soon as possible. However, if an individual has to go to school until they're at least 22 just to have a chance at a decent job (or to be well-established in their trade), then that starts to really make that idea of pairing off really bad. I have an example of something similar from my own experience. I dated a girl about five years my senior when I started college. It was a stupid idea, because she wanted to start a family (not with me in particular, just with somebody) while I was looking at a minimum of four years before I would be respectably employable, much less to add on the extra time of graduate school. I was retarded to think that could ever work, and that was between two legal adults. If one of us had been college-aged and the other high-school aged, or worse, that'd be an even bigger problem.

All of this is further complicated by the fact that we've decoupled the concept of marriage/family formation from sexual/romantic relationships, but the decoupling is somewhat of a separate issue. The age of consent was raised to 16-18 by about 1920 in all US states, long before the widespread destigmatization of fornication occurred, and for largely separate reasons.

In summary, I believe that social values in general tend to be heavily influenced by economic circumstances; we do what we do because it's convenient first, and then rationalize it later. In the specific case of social concepts of the age of consent, we have raised the age of consent because:
1) Our marriage formation practices now emphasize the desires of the marriage partners over that of their elders, which necessitates that the marriage partners be wiser, which requires that they be older.
2) The time it takes to establish an acceptable level of wealth to support a household has raised considerably, making it very impractical and discouraging useful acquisition of human capital.

These are all logical reasons to support a higher age of consent (relative to that of the past, which could go as low as 10 - ew - in some states), and I'm on board with that. What I'm not on board with is the insane idea that a dude who is 26 who thinks a 16-year-old is hot is evil and a 16-year-old who thinks that isn't. As for prepubescent and pubescent children, it's hard to imagine ANY scenario in which it's acceptable for anybody to having sex with or marrying them. Of course cultures existed which did tolerate or encourage that (Islam in particular comes to my mind), but it's inherently fucked up because a child that cannot even feel a coherent sexual impulse cannot be anything other than a coerced or tricked party to the action.

A child cannot consent at all, because they lack the mental development for it.
A teenager cannot legally consent because it is socially undesirable that the union take place.
Ethically speaking, sex with a child is a crime against the child.
Ethically speaking, sex with a teenager is a crime against society.

All that said, BoxerShorts is still a degenerate and belongs on a cross.
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Just one question. Why?
 
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SIGSEGV said:
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It's a bit late for that, unfortunately.
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I don’t really think that’s projection because I think pretty much every normal man, myself included, finds women in their late teens attractive sometimes. (Sometimes they even look like women in their twenties, and they’re called “jailbait.”)

I think that a good chunk of the population are such bootlickers that they think the law is itself morality, and combined with the distinctly Anglo pedophile hysteria they become obnoxious cunts who, having been convinced that fucking a woman who has a fully formed body is the same as raping a 2-year-old.

I think the most common motivation for being such an obnoxious cunt is to try to exert power over other people, shame them and mock them so that you can feel better, like the SJWs and the Bible-thumpers do.

Swiss46 said:
Just one question. Why?
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Why what?
 
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