For one I'm glad Filoni has yet to get a chance to ruin the Shistavanen even with Disney uglifying them from their original incarnations. Personally, I think that wolfaboo is aware of them, but they're anthro wolves and not of the more feral/natural wolf type he prefers based on all his sperging in the form of drawings, his design choices especially prevalent in Disney's Rebels, and the iconography he wears and also imposed on the clone unit back in his The Clone Wars. Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but that's my two-cents regarding Filoni and him not touching the Shistavanen. He enjoys four-legged wolves and not two-legged anthro wolf species; and given his immense focus on the former, that can imply things about that autist.
For one I'm glad Filoni has yet to get a chance to ruin the Shistavanen even with Disney uglifying them from their original incarnations. Personally, I think that wolfaboo is aware of them, but they're anthro wolves and not of the more feral/natural wolf type he prefers based on all his sperging in the form of drawings, his design choices especially prevalent in Disney's Rebels, and the iconography he wears and also imposed on the clone unit back in his The Clone Wars. Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but that's my two-cents regarding Filoni and him not touching the Shistavanen. He enjoys four-legged wolves and not two-legged anthro wolf species; and given his immense focus on the former, that can imply things about that autist.
I think he does like the idea of wolfmen but only if they're just humans with wolf ears and fur like his redesign of the Zygerrians which was based on the design of an unused character he made called Lupe (derived from Lupus, latin for wolf) during TCW's production, since he wanted the Zygerrians to be tricky like a coyote and as violent as a wolf according to some DVD commentary.
Despite this shit, Disney material and lore keeps referring to the nu-Zygerrians as felines.
For reference, Zygerrians used to look like this:
A cross between elves and orcs with chin spikes and brow spikes (which are the only traits reused in Filoni's redesign).
That would fit with Filoni redesigning Ahsoka's horns to resemble wolf ears. I for one could never really see the wolf aspects in the Zygerrians. Just too much feline. Also, Filoni's attempt to try and make them tricky like Coyote from Native American myths is a disservice to said myths and the species in my opinion.
That would fit with Filoni redesigning Ahsoka's horns to resemble wolf ears. I for one could never really see the wolf aspects in the Zygerrians. Just too much feline. Also, Filoni's attempt to try and make them tricky like Coyote from Native American myths is a disservice to said myths and the species in my opinion.
Oddly enough, those Zygerrian episodes were loosely based on some Filoni Wars tie-in comics made in 2008-2009 and the queen from those 2011 episodes was the same one from the comic, yet they were given a complete overhaul with no explanation despite Filoni taking the plot from those episodes from there while leaving out Ventress.
How odd. Do you think it might be a sign of Filoni gaining increasing control over his The Clone Wars project to just change a previously set design on his desires?
How odd. Do you think it might be a sign of Filoni gaining increasing control over his The Clone Wars project to just change a previously set design on his desires?
I know his influence did greatly increase after George became less involved. With George only coming back to get somewhat involved with the Mortis stuff and fully involved with the final Yoda-centered episodes. JW Rinzler said during one of his videos that he was the one who wrote the Jar Jar/Windu episode and despite being credited for it in the episode and official sites, he revealed that the majority of his script and his OC species were completely changed by Filoni, to the point where the only thing that remained the same was the name of the planet in the episode.
Yeah. It's probably a sign of that wolfaboo's growing power, and a precusor to what he would do Zahn and nu-Thrawn. It's a shame, too. I liked nu-Thrawn's design, but like with the Grevious Genndy wonderfully established, Filoni couldn't accept such a strong, intelligent antagonist with a long lasting and vital legacy to Star Wars; and so that autist turned Thrawn into a cheesy saturday morning cartoon villain of low-caliber like he did with Grevious. And all this on top of Space Aladdin's bullshit in ruining the OT's hero's legacies, and the Space Anus as has been previously brought up and discussed in this thread. Ack! Disney and Filoni are among the worst things to happen to Star Wars.
Speaking of dark or Halloween, what do yall think of the Deathtroopers book? I actually rather enjoyed it and the audio book is pretty good as well. I thought it was a very original Star Wars story and very much out of the ordinary for Star Wars. The whole idea about an Imperial prison ship is neat as well as anything about an abandoned/forgotten star ship as well.
It would make for a really good rated R horror film.
I know his influence did greatly increase after George became less involved. With George only coming back to get somewhat involved with the Mortis stuff and fully involved with the final Yoda-centered episodes. JW Rinzler said during one of his videos that he was the one who wrote the Jar Jar/Windu episode and despite being credited for it in the episode and official sites, he revealed that the majority of his script and his OC species were completely changed by Filoni, to the point where the only thing that remained the same was the name of the planet in the episode.
Yeah. It's probably a sign of that wolfaboo's growing power, and a precusor to what he would do Zahn and nu-Thrawn. It's a shame, too. I liked nu-Thrawn's design, but like with the Grevious Genndy wonderfully established, Filoni couldn't accept such a strong, intelligent antagonist with a long lasting and vital legacy to Star Wars; and so that autist turned Thrawn into a cheesy saturday morning cartoon villain of low-caliber like he did with Grevious. And all this on top of Space Aladdin's bullshit in ruining the OT's hero's legacies, and the Space Anus as has been previously brought up and discussed in this thread. Ack! Disney and Filoni are among the worst things to happen to Star Wars.
Filoni's practically the bigshot in Disney Star Wars right now. Despite the failure of Rebels and Resistance, he can always fall back on the success of TCW as an excuse as to why he should be running Star Wars, especially when compared to JJ, Rian Johnson, and Kathleen Kennedy screwing the golden pooch into the ground. And it looks like we'll be stuck with him for a while. Especially since the TCW fans are not a minority in the SW fandom and their voice is being heard by Disney. Like him or not, Filoni's here to stay.
Speaking of dark or Halloween, what do yall think of the Deathtroopers book? I actually rather enjoyed it and the audio book is pretty good as well. I thought it was a very original Star Wars story and very much out of the ordinary for Star Wars. The whole idea about an Imperial prison ship is neat as well as anything about an abandoned/forgotten star ship as well.
It would make for a really good rated R horror film.
I don't think Disney will make an R-rated SW film anytime soon. The guy who made Rogue One wanted it to be a realistic war film, but the studio heads twisted his baby so they can get a fun, family-friendly adventure. They will be more than hostile to the idea of an R-rated Star Wars horror film.
As for me, the best R-rated stuff would be a series set during the Mandalorian Wars and the years after that. The horror, the slaughter, and the absolute chaos of that war and the slaughter that followed it in the Jedi Civil War and the First Jedi Purge will be burned into the minds of casual SW fans as THE epic, R-rated, sci-fi series of the millennium, kind of like Three Kingdoms 2010 or Game of Thrones but with nukes and lightsabers. But again, that's not happening in this decade, not unless someone really ambitious buys out Disney as a whole and has this as a plan.
Speaking of dark or Halloween, what do yall think of the Deathtroopers book? I actually rather enjoyed it and the audio book is pretty good as well. I thought it was a very original Star Wars story and very much out of the ordinary for Star Wars. The whole idea about an Imperial prison ship is neat as well as anything about an abandoned/forgotten star ship as well.
It would make for a really good rated R horror film.
I certainly enjoyed it. The whole Blackwing plague was a more engaging horror story than Dr. Aphra's cheap attempt at a zombie apocalypse, and the self narration from that one Stormtrooper looking back on his life while trapped alone in that grotesque lab was very well done and made you really feel for the guy. Although in terms of plagues, I'm still more fond of the rakghoul plague but it works for the less supernatural Empire. Also the novel had the benefit of feeling like a great R-rated horror flick crossed with SW. Oddly enough Disney shit implies that novel is still part of nu-canon yet they're hesitant to outright say it. Some lame tie-ins for Rogue One imply that the nu-Deathtroopers were named after the Blackwing project and a later Disney mobile game had the Blackwing project be under the nu-canon but with all the deathtroopers (now just called zombie troopers) having no blood or gore. Edit: Its like a de-fanged Thrawn scenario.
I heard Anakin Solo was killed off because Anakin Skywalker was being set up as a hero in the Prequels and they didn't want two Anakins hogging the spotlight among the fans at the same time. Just hearsay, of course, no concrete evidence.
That, and the fact that Anakin Solo was following the same narrative trajectory as his grandfather, which Lucas didn't approve of; all of which was confirmed in the NJO Round Table Interview. The authors make zero mention of Jacen turning dark as the alternative however, and according to their interview for LOTF, discussions about Jacen turning dark didn't really start until the development of Dark Nest.
Yep. That's among the sadder things. He captured a good chunk of the current non-jaded Star Wars audience's loyalty despite the glaring flaws in his TCW to the point he's viewed as the new Lucas despite Lucas, as our good General pointed out some time ago, creating a special low-tier canon just for his wank fest. And so he uses this legitimacy to shit upon the far better creations of those who came before, especially Genndy Wars. Granted Genndy Wars had its own issues, but they pale in comparison to what Filoni's done, especially in regards to how Ahsoka is now thrusted into everything while other Togruta are effectively pushed to the side or erased. It's, also, quite annoying trying to point out these flaws to his defenders who become so stuck in their ways they refuse to even consider the thought, while more casual viewers will just shrug and consume the product.
Death Trooper was a badass book. I wish I still had the poster that came with it, because the hanging Stormtrooper helmet was just an awesome piece of art.
That, and the fact that Anakin Solo was following the same narrative trajectory as his grandfather, which Lucas didn't approve of; all of which was confirmed in the NJO Round Table Interview. The authors make zero mention of Jacen turning dark as the alternative however, and according to their interview for LOTF, discussions about Jacen turning dark didn't really start until the development of Dark Nest.
LOTF really felt like a mess for me. I would have rather had the story for the main SW cast end with rebuilding after the Yuuzhan Vong War, with the New Republic and the Empire forming the Galactic Alliance as the synthesis between the two. Maybe you can toss in Abeloth there as someone the main Jedi characters hunt down as some kind of final boss while the rest of the galaxy recovers. Because realistically, the last thing people want after a devastating war that killed hundreds of trillions would be to start another pointless-ass war over petty nationalistic concerns. After the devastation wrought by the Clone Wars, the Galactic Civil War, and the Yuuzhan Vong War, you'd think people would have had enough of war and it would at least take several generations before another war broke out. Consequently, you can just end your reading of the story with the end of the Vong War and skip right to the Legacy Era comics, and nothing of value will have been lost. Really, to me, Legacy of the Force was them pounding the dead horse with a warhammer: an ultimately fruitless gesture that goes nowhere, unless you're the kind of sadist who wants blood everywhere.
Yep. That's among the sadder things. He captured a good chunk of the current non-jaded Star Wars audience's loyalty despite the glaring flaws in his TCW to the point he's viewed as the new Lucas despite Lucas, as our good General pointed out some time ago, creating a special low-tier canon just for his wank fest. And so he uses this legitimacy to shit upon the far better creations of those who came before, especially Genndy Wars. Granted Genndy Wars had its own issues, but they pale in comparison to what Filoni's done, especially in regards to how Ahsoka is now thrusted into everything while other Togruta are effectively pushed to the side or erased. It's, also, quite annoying trying to point out these flaws to his defenders who become so stuck in their ways they refuse to even consider the thought, while more casual viewers will just shrug and consume the product.
Even Rebels has tons of fans dressing up as Sabine Wren or Kanan Jarrus. TCW's Death Watch Mandalorians like Bo-Katan and Pre Vizsla are now as popular as Boba Fett was in the past. And yes, I am kinda bothered by how Ahsoka's become the mainline Togruta Jedi, pushing aside Shaak Ti, who used to have that crown and who even appeared in the Lucas-inspired Force Unleashed as one of the Jedi bosses for the game. And yes, Filoni's defenders will not back down despite arguments against his work having more than a lick of sense. Especially in Rebels where Palpatine capitulated to Ezra and even offered him a life free of suffering. If Palpatine wanted to test out that warp-gate thing, he'd be there himself, or at least have Vader there watching over Ezra, and he'd sure as hell do more than just order some guards to kill him for not cooperating.
Yep. The casuals will praise Filoni until the day turns to night because they love TCW. I love it too, but I'm more than sober enough to see its flaws here and there.
You're not dealing with reasonable people. A reasonable female fan would react to a good female character getting killed by Boba Fett by saying that she's some kind of martyr for the cause or how badass she must be that the king of the bounty hunters was called in to kill her. Instead, these people with damaged amygdalas whine that a woman got more than a boo-boo in a series where the main bad guy kills children even BEFORE he became the bad guy.
Death Trooper was a badass book. I wish I still had the poster that came with it, because the hanging Stormtrooper helmet was just an awesome piece of art.
Reminds me of the Rakghouls from KOTOR. If only there was more horror like that in Star Wars. I suppose the Vong could have made something. Or the Sith. I do remember the Sith being able to use bodies like puppets and Darth Andeddu coming back from the dead. I also seem to remember that Freedon Nadd wanted Exar Kun to craft him a new body before Kun turned on him and eradicated his spirit.
LOTF really felt like a mess for me. I would have rather had the story for the main SW cast end with rebuilding after the Yuuzhan Vong War, with the New Republic and the Empire forming the Galactic Alliance as the synthesis between the two. Maybe you can toss in Abeloth there as someone the main Jedi characters hunt down as some kind of final boss while the rest of the galaxy recovers. Because realistically, the last thing people want after a devastating war that killed hundreds of trillions would be to start another pointless-ass war over petty nationalistic concerns. After the devastation wrought by the Clone Wars, the Galactic Civil War, and the Yuuzhan Vong War, you'd think people would have had enough of war and it would at least take several generations before another war broke out. Consequently, you can just end your reading of the story with the end of the Vong War and skip right to the Legacy Era comics, and nothing of value will have been lost. Really, to me, Legacy of the Force was them pounding the dead horse with a warhammer: an ultimately fruitless gesture that goes nowhere, unless you're the kind of sadist who wants blood everywhere.
Speaking as someone who just started reading LOTF, I can't say I agree with this at all. For one thing, the whole decade prior to LOTF is used primarily to focus on the Reconstruction of the galaxy after the Yuuzhan Vong War---and the Jedi do deal with a remote conflict that doesn't affect the rest of the galaxy in the form of the colonial dispute between the Killik and the Chiss Ascendancy. The "rebuilding" has already taken place, and by the time LOTF starts, the Galactic Alliance is already a rigid institution with synthesis between the remnants of the New Republic and the Imperial State. What LOTF deals with is something somewhat unprecedented for the post-Endor EU: what kind of political and military turmoil would spring during peacetime between "allies"? The conflict in LOTF is precisely because everyone is wary of another war, but they're more terrified of the balance of power being shifted in the favor of some authoritarian or anarchist regime. It has less to do with nationalism, and more with the paranoia of wanting to avoid repeating history. People don't want a repeat of the Imperial Regime or the Yuuzhan Vong carnage, and are taking morally-questionable measures to prevent that from happening. This the crux behind all of Jacen Solo's actions in this story arc; he wants the cycle of conflict in the galaxy to end, and he doesn't believe Luke Skywalker is doing everything necessary to eliminate that cycle.
I think that's a wholly-realistic place to take the post-Endor setting after a conflict as devastating as NJO's, and it also helps that the "war" being fought in LOTF isn't on the same scale as the previous ones like the Clone Wars or the Yuuzhan Vong War. Those were wars that enveloped the entire galaxy, spanning multiple planets in constant raging warfare. The war in LOTF is solely between two of the biggest planetary players in the Core Worlds: Coruscant and Corellia. Most of the war is in spurts of terror in the Coruscanti streets, blockades around Corellia's orbit, protests around government buildings and furiously-argued political summits. It's a quieter, more harrowing conflict than the previous ones...made all the more personal because the enemy isn't faceless Vong acolytes or CIS Droids, but the comrades of the Rebellion pitted against each other. Members of the Skywalker and Solo Family are choosing sides, and are often fighting against each other's interests in the broader conflict. Calling this a war in the same vein as the previous ones is, I feel, not accurate whatsoever. The conflict is taking a very different shape than it usually does in Star Wars, and I think that makes it acceptable as a follow-up to the previous wars; it's a failed and tragic attempt to retain the bitterly-earned peace after NJO, undone by the overcompensating on both sides.
I also think that by skipping LOTF, you'd lose a lot of the exploration of the long-term effects of NJO, something that Dark Nest was sorely lacking. Everything from the paranoia instilled in the galaxy's inhabitants following the Vong War, the changing role of Luke's New Jedi Order in daily affairs, the growth and tension of Ben Skywalker and his family, and the final stage of Jacen showing the long-term consequences of his wartime experiences and his enrapture with the most extreme of Vergere's teachings. You would also lose quite possibly the only major instance of conflict and division within the Solo Family, without which would just be a history of flowery Brady Bunch exchanges in the EU. Don't get me wrong, I think the way that the Solo Family was characterized through most of the EU up till LOTF was satisfying and endearing,. but it seems almost free of conflict up till this point, minus the somewhat rocky tensions that arise with Chewbacca's death. Having Han/Leia and Luke/Mara undergo some strife with their kids made their history as a family seem organic and realistic, made better by drama and tensions we actually get to see instead of being simply told about like in the ST.
Ultimately, I think LOTF adds more than it takes away or repeats. I haven't read the last six books, so I don't know if everything it establishes narratively truly "goes nowhere", but at the current point I'm at with my reading, I don't view the conflict as fruitless or narratively-superfluous at all. Things of narrative weight and substance are happening, and it doesn't feel like pointless anime filler or an exercise in futility. And any lack of connection between it and the Legacy comics has more to do with them being developed simultaneously, and therefore unable to predict what the other was going to do in terms of plot or world-building. But that doesn't mean that LOTF itself doesn't add to the Skywalker/Solo story, and their life journeys beyond the end of ROTJ.
Death Trooper was a badass book. I wish I still had the poster that came with it, because the hanging Stormtrooper helmet was just an awesome piece of art.
There was alot of "horrific" imagery in that book like the mountain of imperial corpses that came to life and the emaciated imperials in their landing craft slowly eating one another and neatly folding their uniforms afterward. The idea of the star destroyer capturing ships out of hyperspace to lure them in was scary enough.
One thing that was interesting (and will make the book be further cancelled) if I remember correctly the female character that was nurse says something about being the only female crew member on an Imperial Ship. Thats not allowed anymore.
Speaking as someone who just started reading LOTF, I can't say I agree with this at all. For one thing, the whole decade prior to LOTF is used primarily to focus on the Reconstruction of the galaxy after the Yuuzhan Vong War---and the Jedi do deal with a remote conflict that doesn't affect the rest of the galaxy in the form of the colonial dispute between the Killik and the Chiss Ascendancy. The "rebuilding" has already taken place, and by the time LOTF starts, the Galactic Alliance is already a rigid institution with synthesis between the remnants of the New Republic and the Imperial State. What LOTF deals with is something somewhat unprecedented for the post-Endor EU: what kind of political and military turmoil would spring during peacetime between "allies"? The conflict in LOTF is precisely because everyone is wary of another war, but they're more terrified of the balance of power being shifted in the favor of some authoritarian or anarchist regime. It has less to do with nationalism, and more with the paranoia of wanting to avoid repeating history. People don't want a repeat of the Imperial Regime or the Yuuzhan Vong carnage, and are taking morally-questionable measures to prevent that from happening. This the crux behind all of Jacen Solo's actions in this story arc; he wants the cycle of conflict in the galaxy to end, and he doesn't believe Luke Skywalker is doing everything necessary to eliminate that cycle.
I think that's a wholly-realistic place to take the post-Endor setting after a conflict as devastating as NJO's, and it also helps that the "war" being fought in LOTF isn't on the same scale as the previous ones like the Clone Wars or the Yuuzhan Vong War. Those were wars that enveloped the entire galaxy, spanning multiple planets in constant raging warfare. The war in LOTF is solely between two of the biggest planetary players in the Core Worlds: Coruscant and Corellia. Most of the war is in spurts of terror in the Coruscanti streets, blockades around Corellia's orbit, protests around government buildings and furiously-argued political summits. It's a quieter, more harrowing conflict than the previous ones...made all the more personal because the enemy isn't faceless Vong acolytes or CIS Droids, but the comrades of the Rebellion pitted against each other. Members of the Skywalker and Solo Family are choosing sides, and are often fighting against each other's interests in the broader conflict. Calling this a war in the same vein as the previous ones is, I feel, not accurate whatsoever. The conflict is taking a very different shape than it usually does in Star Wars, and I think that makes it acceptable as a follow-up to the previous wars; it's a failed and tragic attempt to retain the bitterly-earned peace after NJO, undone by the overcompensating on both sides.
I also think that by skipping LOTF, you'd lose a lot of the exploration of the long-term effects of NJO, something that Dark Nest was sorely lacking. Everything from the paranoia instilled in the galaxy's inhabitants following the Vong War, the changing role of Luke's New Jedi Order in daily affairs, the growth and tension of Ben Skywalker and his family, and the final stage of Jacen showing the long-term consequences of his wartime experiences and his enrapture with the most extreme of Vergere's teachings. You would also lose quite possibly the only major instance of conflict and division within the Solo Family, without which would just be a history of flowery Brady Bunch exchanges in the EU. Don't get me wrong, I think the way that the Solo Family was characterized through most of the EU up till LOTF was satisfying and endearing,. but it seems almost free of conflict up till this point, minus the somewhat rocky tensions that arise with Chewbacca's death. Having Han/Leia and Luke/Mara undergo some strife with their kids made their history as a family seem organic and realistic, made better by drama and tensions we actually get to see instead of being simply told about like in the ST.
Ultimately, I think LOTF adds more than it takes away or repeats. I haven't read the last six books, so I don't know if everything it establishes narratively truly "goes nowhere", but at the current point I'm at with my reading, I don't view the conflict as fruitless or narratively-superfluous at all. Things of narrative weight and substance are happening, and it doesn't feel like pointless anime filler or an exercise in futility. And any lack of connection between it and the Legacy comics has more to do with them being developed simultaneously, and therefore unable to predict what the other was going to do in terms of plot or world-building. But that doesn't mean that LOTF itself doesn't add to the Skywalker/Solo story, and their life journeys beyond the end of ROTJ.
I respect your opinion, but a lot of people who were longtime readers of the NJO series as well as many other longtime fans (like say, fans of Mara Jade and Jacen Solo) were not very happy with LOTF. And again, after the total galactic rape that the Yuuzhan Vong were responsible for, the last thing people would want is another full-scale war. They'd probably stick those who want to start another war into the Geonosis Arena, give them lightsabers and force pikes, and tell them to settle it while they leave the rest of the galaxy in peace. War fatigue along with the enormous loss of life in the last three major wars would leave the people really sour on the idea of another war. The idea that Corellia would want to go to war to assert "independence" felt rather forced to me, especially since it usually benefited from the core worlds having a lot of power and its close proximity to Coruscant. For 25K years Corellia and Coruscant were buddies-in-arms, so having a central government so close to them would have benefited the Corellians, not caused them to rebel.
Maybe it would be realistic-50 years down the line, once everyone has recovered from war, and you'd have an aging Jacen Solo dealing with a new generation where many young bigshots want to start a war to secede from the Galactic Alliance for the sake of petty freedoms, a generation that never had to live through things like the Clone Wars, the Galactic Civil War, or the Vong War. You can even have them start from Corellia. An older Ben Skywalker would be the replacement for Luke, where he's the new Jedi Grand Master and he tries to end this conflict in the least violent manner, while Jacen, whose sister Jaina would have become Empress of the Galactic Empire by now, would be more in favor of using force to settle the matter, to show these uppity youngsters the consequences of starting another war. You can then have that three-way fragfest between Ben Skywalker's Jedi, Jacen and Jaina's forces which have Imperial backing, and the Corellian rebels who would be radical separatists. But LOTF really doesn't feel realistic to me given that the generation that started the Second Galactic Civil War is just a few decades removed from three massive, galactic wars. At that point they'd probably go all peacenik and decide to "ban war" for a good half-century before the bad memories of war start to fade and people start entertaining the idea of war again.
That, and LOTF really made people angry for three key reasons:
1) Killing off Mara Jade. People were already pissed off that the Vong War killed off Chewie, killing Luke's waifu off, especially as Zahn was preparing to write a novel about her, was a really bad move.
2) Jacen Solo turning to the Dark Side and killing his aunt. Sure, him turning to the Dark Side to silence a bunch of uppity rebels starting another senseless war is understandable, but killing off Mara Jade? Jacen would probably capture her alive instead, considering his immense power as a member of the Skywalker clan and the fact that Mara knows an awful lot about the previous Emperor's methods and secrets. He'd more than likely just use his immense power to subdue her and capture her alive, then torment/interrogate her on how Palpatine would have dealt with problems-problems that the GA was facing in the wake of the second GCW. That, and he could use her as a hostage against Luke-Jacen can threaten Luke by saying that if he interferes, he'll hear more of Mara's screams through the Force as Jacen torments her more. Also, the fans of LIGHT-SIDE Jacen Solo hated his turn to the Dark Side and felt it was artificial.
3) Jaina Solo asking Boba Fett for help against Jacen. I've already written novels about how that's wrong, so I won't repeat it here. Only that she should have consulted Nomi Sunrider's holocron instead, because that can teach her how to strip Jacen of Force powers and make him easier to capture and rehabilitate, while Fett and his Mandalorians would come in to help Han Solo defeat Jacen pro-bono, ostensibly as an act of charity, but in reality, because he wants to kill Han himself and he can't do that if Jacen beats him to the punch.
And again, if people skipped LOTF and went right from the end of the Vong War to the Legacy Era, they lose practically nothing.
It just feels like to me, that LOTF was an exercise in adding conflict for shock value then cleaning it up as if nothing happened-the fact that the galaxy soon forgave Corellia after it started an unjust war that nearly tore the galaxy apart is complete and total bullshit, in my opinion. If Corellia started another war as the galaxy was healing from three destructive, galaxy-wide conflicts, the rest of the war-weary galaxy would have bombed the entire planet into a radioactive parking lot in retribution. They wouldn't settle for mere surrender, they'd go full Grand Moff Tarkin on Corellia just to show an example as to what happens when you try to start a war after the galaxy's had enough of it; after all, the people of the Republic have done the same for less.
The people of the galaxy looked the other way as Palpatine enslaved the Geonosians and other Separatist allies during the Imperial era because they remembered the Geonosians' hand in starting the Clone Wars and all the violence started by the Seps. When it seemed like Alderaan was funding a rebellion that could cause another galactic war, more than half the Empire remained loyal to Palpatine after Tarkin obliterated the planet in the Emperor's name, showing how at least half the galaxy's people, if not more than half, felt that it was okay to blow up a planet if the people there were even SUSPECTED of wanting to start another war. Heck, even in the Old Republic era, the Republic and JEDI forces bombed the shit out of Sith planets after the Great Hyperspace War. So even the Jedi at some point and time were okay with committing galactic holocaust just to stop future wars.
The fact that Corellia got away with nearly plunging the galaxy back into another galactic war after three devastating galactic wars without so much as a stiff fine is beyond me. Realistically, the only way the Second Galactic Civil War should have ended would be if Corellia ended up like Thessia did in Mass Effect 3: with most of its populace, industry, and power base annihilated, leaving only an empty shell full of bombed-out buildings and squatters defecating on its once-glorious streets, thanks to the wrath of a galaxy wary of anyone else trying to start another war.
Or better yet, if the Second GCW took place 50 years after the Vong War, so that people wouldn't be so war-weary since everyone who remembered those old wars would be either old or dead. Maybe then you could have Corellia get off easy, because the people who would be weary of war would be in the minority.
For context, this is a project being started by that cringy SW news site, Dorksideoftheforce, which aside from slobbing Disney knob the hardest since the buyout have also drank the SJW koolaid pretty damn hard. Meg Dowell is one of the editors at Dorkside. Kennedy has pretty much bent over and buttfucked the franchise to please these retards and yet that still isn't good enough for them.
Yep. That's among the sadder things. He captured a good chunk of the current non-jaded Star Wars audience's loyalty despite the glaring flaws in his TCW to the point he's viewed as the new Lucas despite Lucas, as our good General pointed out some time ago, creating a special low-tier canon just for his wank fest. And so he uses this legitimacy to shit upon the far better creations of those who came before, especially Genndy Wars. Granted Genndy Wars had its own issues, but they pale in comparison to what Filoni's done, especially in regards to how Ahsoka is now thrusted into everything while other Togruta are effectively pushed to the side or erased. It's, also, quite annoying trying to point out these flaws to his defenders who become so stuck in their ways they refuse to even consider the thought, while more casual viewers will just shrug and consume the product.
