That law is centered around stopping immigration. I am talking about passing legislation to stop the people already in the country from building themselves up. The Exclusion Act didn’t have any legislation that expressly killed Chinese wages. On top of that during WWII the law was repealed.
IIRC Asians had an easier time integrating into society post WWII. Until 1964 segregation made economic competition for blacks extremely difficult since it required building separate everything to people to try to interact with one another. I know there was some bullshit in California involving intermarrying Asians and the like around that time, so I know my explanation isn’t perfect across the board.
Long story short, yes Asian people went through bullshit too, but they didn’t have Congress passing laws specifically to nuke the ways they found to thrive in the US, as opposed to the black population. At least not as far as I know.
(You guys keep posting when I am responding good lord)
The laser focus comes from what I was mentioning involving unions and the minimum wage laws, where Congress looked at the fact that black communities were growing and smacked them back down. That kind of shit is different from the gov’t saying “Don’t come here anymore“. I didn’t say anything about the recent riots, because I am talking about the past and everyone with the ability to succeed is facing economic sabotage from this particular brand of stupid. African AND Asian-American businesses are being burned down for daring to exist as a symbol of individual success in a black neighborhood.
My point is that due to the continuous hits received over the course of decades, followed by the carrot known as social programs, the black community was pretty much crushed into its current state. Asians took several hits, but not to that degree. Hence why today’s SJWs are trying to toss Asians in the “white” bracket. There wasn’t enough force behind the discrimination they faced in the past, so getting out of the hole was easier.
(Thank you for coming to my TED talk.)
Chinese labourers were literally burned to death in two separate major incidents by Union members who didn't like the competition. And in a climate where the government paid lip-service to justice at most for the victims you cannot convince me there wasn't a widespread climate of prejudice and economic hindrance for Chinese people. And I don't see anything that convinces me it was notably different to prejudice against Black Americans. In fact, given the smaller numbers of Chinese families in the USA you can make a supportable argument that it was
harder for them to make self-supporting business relationships in parallel to the economy they were excluded from.
I think you are hooked on arguing that Black people had it worse because you see the opposing view being that the current lower success rate for Black Americans must be some biological inferiority. In which case naturally you'd stick to your arguments. But I don't think that necessarily follows. You can accept that Chinese Americans had it just as tough as Black Americans without having to draw any unwanted conclusions. Maybe the Chinese immigrants had a stronger culture - after all, Black Americans had little long-term culture having had all that ripped away from them when transported from Africa (one reason you see nonsense attempts to invent a new culture like Afro-Centrism); maybe the smaller size of communities actually helped in that it forced Chinese immigrants to integrate in a way that Black Americans with whole large communities didn't; and maybe having their own language helped create a more resilient community to those threats than Black Americans who just spoke the same language as White Americans mostly did. Chinese Americans paradoxically both integrated more
and less than Black Americans did with wider White America. They lived and worked closely amongst everyone else - a "China Town" like in San Francisco was still way more integrated than a lot of Black communities - yet also preserved own traditions and language at the same time.
I think you are arguing Black Americans got attacked structurally and culturally more than Chinese Americans. I think that's only true in so far as there were more Black Americans. Both groups (and the Irish, too!) faced such attacks. Chinese communities simply proved more resilient for whatever reason. I doubt it's based on genetics. China is a culture that has survived thousands of years. Africans uprooted and transported around the world world and then given a bit of Christianity aren't comparable - there's little continuity of identity to build on. Frankly, Black Africans did pretty well all things considered up until the Democrats gibbed them to breaking point and the CIA flooded their communities with crack.
Anyway, this is something of a tangent but tl;dr: You want to argue that Black communities were deliberately undermined and leadership subverted, I'm right with you. I just don't accept dismissing other groups overcoming it as a way to show it. Every Chinese first and second generation immigrant I've ever known (up until the recent wave of hyper-rich property buying ones) has worked like a madman to succeed. I'm not going to take that away from them by downplaying things like the Rocks Springs massacre and the environment that created it.
To be fair, due to the massive ocean in the way, african immigrants tend to be people who, you know, can actually afford to migrate.
This hold true in theory and I'm sure there must be a basis for it, but anecdotally my experience of this really runs counter to it. You can get a flight from say Cairo to say New York for around $600 if you shop around. I mean, that's not cheap if you're from most African countries but it's certainly within reach of most working people if they approach it not as a "I've just decided to go to America" jaunt but as a "I'm working to save up to go to America. I'll have enough by May" styl thing. Which is how the African immigrants I have known have approached it. African immigrants to the USA I have known, workers and in one case a student, weren't rich and they were working super-hard to succeed. One uber driver I knew from Eritrea was pulling hours that terrified me week after week.
What you've said is popular wisdom and I'm sure they exist. But consider it's more often desperation and necessity that drives someone to leave everyone they know behind and work in a foreign country starting from scratch. I actually think most African immigrants
don't fit it. Also, what you say wouldn't lead to the widespread contempt of African Americans by actual Africans that I have definitely witnessed (to the point Hitler would have blushed to hear the descriptions that were used).