2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Super-Chevy454]

Biden Reaches 'Safe Harbor Deadline' That Makes Victory Nearly Irreversible

Media says it's over, goys. Let's pack it up. Expectedly, CNN will say Safe Harbor all day and all week too.

He should remove that mask or try another model, he looks like a brick who just look like another brick in the wall to paraphrase Pink Floyd.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

He's getting primaried in 22.

He can kiss his political career good night.

They must not be catching those shy Kemp voters.

 

[Bartleby]

I'm asking you to say whether you know if there's been an audit or not. Because you should know there's been an audit. You just don't like what the audits found, and you don't want to call them audits.
For example, this quick ol' google result? NOT AN AUDIT. No, the signature audit.....yeahp that's the only good audit..... Oh, gee, sorry, earlier, everyone just kept saying that Rudi and Crazylady were bringing the mythological creatures, and I assumed that was why no other legal challenges were being alleged. I didn't realize that people thought they were incompetent, and there was some other reason that very few challenges were being raised or going anywhere

I'm saying that these groups investigated, and the opportunity to rebut them or provide more evidence that would go against their findings has dragged on for well over a goddamn month. How the fuck do you know they're not allowed or willing to analyze illegal votes? Are you on them? The purposes of individual audits would be to find specific instances or items of fraud, based on the allegations that were made. You're alleging here that literally the entire government system, top to bottom, is crooked and bent against the Trump team - the courts can't be trusted, the electoral committees can't be trusted, the AGs can't be trusted, the legislatures can't be trusted, the feds can't be trusted - who can be? What would ever be good enough for you to show that heavily partisan people have been lying for political gains, and the claims are spurious?
If I took a stats class and it was literally a guy just showing youtube videos, yeah, I'd be fucking mad. You've got youtube videos without court cases; statistics has books I can pick up and equations I can run to verify the shit. So that's why I bring up youtube videos - because that's the argument wholesale.

I will hit both of those websites in a single swoop: it is all fucking speculative conjecture until proven in a court of law. Conservative courts have thrown out the cases presented to them thusfar just as much as have liberal ones. Virtually everything in there is DOESN'T THIS LOOK SUSPICIOUS? and people misreading some goddamn stats.

Here's a thing to slap off some of the deluge: https://www.patreon.com/posts/44428914, which I cite mostly as an example that the response to most of the coutner-arguments in this post here? People just look away, ignore it, shout the same thing over again. This of course doesn't cover everything alleged in those spots - because you can allege almost anything. You can testify and swear affidavits to anything you want. You're only likely to get hit with perjury if you sweat that testimony to a court - good thing they haven't been.


Probably because they would cost ass-loads of money and be prone to a whole lot of trying to match signatures from 2020 to signatures from half a decade ago, inviting a far greater margin of error than other methods.
Now, here's the thing, you could make a legal case to compel a state to initiate such an audit, if you could provide significant proof to a court that signatures have been fucked with or there's some trickery involving them.

There hasn't been an audit though, which is what you seem to be unaware of, because saying you've done an audit and actually doing an audit are two different things, and you haven't shown there's been an actual audit either, which would be the proper rebuttal to affidavits (which is indeed considered legal evidence, since I see you've resorted to dismissing them altogether later in your post) alleging otherwise- and I don't just think there hasn't been one because of who ordered it by the way, I'm not resorting to genetic fallacy here like you seem to think I'm doing. You keep asserting that it's been investigated when it simply hasn't been, and if you can link to an investigation that's actually been allowed to do what's necessary to determine fraud, then that would shut me up, yet there's been a distinct lack of transparency when it comes to all of the proceedings so far in terms of vote counting. People don't argue that these different groups are wrong through believing they're corrupt alone, it's argued based on all the irregularities and unnecessarily suspicious proceedings that shouldn't be occurring whatsoever if this was actually about proving the election was safe and secure. If you don't have an actual answer to this aside from mocking it as "gee, doesn't this look suspicious?", then it's more logical to assume fraud based on statistically significant evidence rather than dismissing it, that's how even a simply hypothesis test works.

Since you're not willing to actually debunk anything in either of those sites aside from handwaving it based on what the courts say (again, look into no standings and laches) and that the stats are somehow being misread by statistical experts, I'll do something similar for your Patreon link- it doesn't address the potential for fraud that has been commonly discussed from both sides of the aisle when it comes to mail-in ballots in the first place, of which the safeguards for verification were whittled down prior to the election, and it doesn't address the post-election remedies (of which there have been none yet) that should have taken place and would have dispelled the prima facie evidence handily. That's the crux of the issue- without a transparent remedy, there hasn't been any actual debunking, even though this is supposedly all conjecture.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Is there an image of these ballots with the "from" section filled in?

https://fultondems.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/absentee-ballot-labels.jpg

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/georgia-absentee-ballots-changed-remove-inner-envelope/5VCLguuvNOR2qb4zTctOLK/

Georgia absentee voting instructions to be corrected

The Georgia secretary of state's office said Tuesday it will correct absentee ballot instructions that confused some voters.

www.ajc.com

It's ballots that are clearly about to be processed with no addresses on them in the yellow area, that's an automatic disqualification. In order to send mail through the USPS, there must be a from address in addition to a to address.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Quoting this as a reminder that no one has been able to debunk this

What exactly is that video even showing? Jesus himself could tell you there was no fraud and you'd still cry fraud because your daddy said there was

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

There hasn't been an audit though, which is what you seem to be unaware of, because saying you've done an audit and actually doing an audit are two different things, and you haven't shown there's been an actual audit either, which would be the proper rebuttal to affidavits (which is indeed considered legal evidence, since I see you've resorted to dismissing them altogether later in your post) alleging otherwise- and I don't just think there hasn't been one because of who ordered it by the way, I'm not resorting to genetic fallacy here like you seem to think I'm doing. You keep asserting that it's been investigated when it simply hasn't been, and if you can link to an investigation that's actually been allowed to do what's necessary to determine fraud, then that would shut me up, yet there's been a distinct lack of transparency when it comes to all of the proceedings so far in terms of vote counting. People don't argue that these different groups are wrong through believing they're corrupt alone, it's argued based on all the irregularities and unnecessarily suspicious proceedings that shouldn't be occurring whatsoever if this was actually about proving the election was safe and secure. If you don't have an actual answer to this aside from mocking it as "gee, doesn't this look suspicious?", then it's more logical to assume fraud based on statistically significant evidence rather than dismissing it, that's how even a simply hypothesis test works.

Since you're not willing to actually debunk anything in either of those sites aside from handwaving it based on what the courts say (again, look into no standings and laches) and that the stats are somehow being misread by statistical experts, I'll do something similar for your Patreon link- it doesn't address the potential for fraud that has been commonly discussed from both sides of the aisle when it comes to mail-in ballots in the first place, of which the safeguards for verification were whittled down prior to the election, and it doesn't address the post-election remedies (of which there have been none yet) that should have taken place and would have dispelled the prima facie evidence handily. That's the crux of the issue- without a transparent remedy, there hasn't been any actual debunking, even though this is supposedly all conjecture.

nigger I linked you to a fucking audit. Let me fucking quote it:

No. State election officials have said this is not a recount, but rather a post-election audit.

Are you that dense that you think getting an affidavit signed means that someone automatically has to believe that it's true and act on it? An affidavit is a process by which you assert that what you are saying is 100% truth and you will suffer consequences if not. It does not mean that what you are saying is true. You use the affidavits as testimony in a legal case, which can then compel an audit. You can also use affidavits at committee hearings, to persuade them to do an audit. They did that in Georgia. They did audits. Committees and legal proceedings report their findings. You are suggesting that the audits are somehow incapable of actually doing anything - for which you're asking me to prove a negative. At-face, these audits investigate specific claims of fraud - IE, re-scanning ballots, running dead names, inflating the count through some other means, changing individuals' votes. These audits have not found evidence supporting the claims that this has happened. You are -suggesting- that the audits lack teh authority to truly find this information. How do you know this? I cannot disprove that they lack this authority if I'm just to assume that they somehow lack it. "They found no fraud, thus they cannot find fraud" is ouroboros.

It is hard to argue no-standing if you allege that your own vote has been misconstrued or thrown out; IE your right to vote has been tread upon. It is hard for Frank in New York to say he has standing in Delaware's election, though. How many claims of lache have gone forward? Or are you calling a dismissal a lache? And linking that fucking patreon debunks some shit in there. You wanted me to what, copy-paste and then look through that messy database for the specific claims to align? Nah man, I'm doing this for fun and to call you a nigger, not because I think that the US election hinges on facebook-educated electoral scholars.

So because "potentially mail-in fraud may have happened, I just can't prove that it did," we throw out seven million votes for you guy. And that's not speculative conjecture, because, uhhhhhh. Because we are using the same remedies that have always been used to investigate claims like this, and the legal system remains the primary means of restorative justice in the event that one has genuine evidence of grievance and wrongdoing, it's suddenly all wrong because while you can prove literally nothing, you can just say that none of them are trustworthy and viola, none are.

It's ballots that are clearly about to be processed with no addresses on them in the yellow area, that's an automatic disqualification. In order to send mail through the USPS, there must be a from address in addition to a to address.

They look like they're about to be processed, yes. So, uh. Where's an example of one with the from address filled out?
One line of argument is just that none of the absentee ballots have this information, and were delivered without it because the USPS was instructed to send them out regardless. This would be disproven by finding one that has that filled in.

Another suggestion would be that someone delivered these to people without addresses and similarly collected them, like to a homeless encampment. This might break certain election regulations, however, and could be investigated.

Otherwise, the conjecture is... what, exactly? Those are all phony ballots that somehow still align with the SSNs of people who have not voted which were known ahead of time somehow? Or these would be overwritten in the event that someone voted after they were input? See what I mean about speculative conjecture?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

What exactly is that video even showing? Jesus himself could tell you there was no fraud and you'd still cry fraud because your daddy said there was

I've gone over what the video shows multiple times, unsupervised ballots with no observers around being livestreamed on facebook by a woman convicted for fraud. She's given a stack of votes with no addresses to count. I trust Jesus a lot, he was the most reliable dishwasher and would go out of his way to do you a solid but I wouldn't trust him that far concerning US elections considering he barely speaks English and would run away when La Migra came by.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I've gone over what the video shows multiple times, unsupervised ballots with no observers around being livestreamed on facebook by a woman convicted for fraud. She's given a stack of votes with no addresses to count. I trust Jesus a lot, he was the most reliable dishwasher and would go out of his way to do you a solid but I wouldn't trust him that far concerning US elections considering he barely speaks English and would run away when La Migra came by.

Was she convicted for fraud? The video shows unsupervised ballots with no observers around? Oh my god, that's it, that means Trump has won and Biden should be forced to get a MAGA tattoo on his forehead! all as foretold by Q!

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

This kills the AP

 

[JambledUpWords]

This kills the AP
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I wonder if Twitter will still flag tweets like these? Twitter has already flagged witness testimonies, so I wouldn’t put it past them.

 

[babadook]

This kills the AP
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She better cope and seethe

 

[DeadFish]

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Even then I don't think anyone wants to lose their current way of life which will inevitably happen with the current trajectory regardless of solution. It's less that I can't see the positives, but more weighing the negatives it's hard on the human psyche even for the mentally strongest of people. Even if "Woke capitalist" didn't exist, the current outcomes or path to the future is still going to be a set back if not partial nightmare for many of us.
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Im aware of that but the world changes according to its own will. Nothing wrong with liking your current life but things can change in a moments notice.

The key to surviving such bad times is give up what you currently have and exhange it for the best deal you can get.

And no I didnt think it would move this fast. Thought they would slow boil it.

Someone sent me this graph. M1 is basically the amount of money in circulation. What is striking is how rapidly M1 increased during the COVID compared to at any time since the 1970s. The implication is that this is going to create some serious inflation. How do governments deal with that? Well, they increase interest rates. The problem is that Federal debt is also at all-time high. Of course, the government could just suspend paying interest on that, but that is a sovereign default.

I think at best we're heading into stagflation. This sort of thing makes me think @DeadFish might be right that there's going to be some sort of dramatic collapse of the current system. Certainly, that's what the Great Reset people seem to think. I also agree with DeadFish that, bizarrely, a collapse might be better than authoritarian rule regardless of whether my preferred side comes out on top.

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Yeah lets say if trump wins the court case. The democrats wont accept it. We will have actual civil war. Both sides will have parts of the military, law enforcement and spooky services on their side. So It wont be buba taking pot shots at the local atf. It would be actual gear used by defecting units.

The problem this scenario is the democrats will keep their whitey is racist routine. So they will get all non whites to harrass whites.

This will get liberty minded people turn fascist

This isnt good. This way leads to race wars pol pot territory.

Since democrats have international support will use their media machine to get other nations involved. Cause trump stole the election help. Help. Help.

If trump loses and goes insurrection act. Same deal.

If the right wins civil war 2.0 then yeah its not looking good for non whites. It will be an end to liberty and civil rights.

If trump loses and walks away?
The democrats and their blood thirsty left wing allies have made it very clear what they want to do.

Either side winning will spell doom for black Americans. The woke socialists are white and "white" rich people who want to enslave everyone else. They will import an endless wave of migrants. With the new implants they wont have to care about blacks any more. The freshly minted Americas dont like black Americans. So thats spells trouble. Where whites tolerated them the imports wont. They'll just go in their neighborhoods and deal with them.

If the democrats and crony wallstreets freinds win then the possibility of a transhuman dystopia is very likely. Already there are machines in proto type stage that can erase and edit memories. What about musks neural link? Genetic engineering research used on dissents might become a thing.

Where as with a collapse the elites power will be severely reduced. People will be able to fight back in this scenario far easier then the other two previously mentioned.

I dont like it. It sucks. The 21st century going be a buffet of shit sandwiches with no bread. Pick what you think would be the lesser evil and hope for the best.

 

[Meat Target]

I wonder if Twitter will still flag tweets like these? Twitter has already flagged witness testimonies, so I wouldn’t put it past them.

Hell, Rand Paul tweeted about a guy who was convicted of election fraud in the 1950's, with no mention of any current events whatsoever, and Twatter flagged it.

 

[Nobunaga]

Translation: the harvest shall continue until January.

I want to get off from the circus this election has become

 

[HumanHive]

This kills the AP
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If we actually see the Congressional GOP be the ones to cross the Rubicon, I don’t see how a civil war doesn’t happen.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Hell, Rand Paul tweeted about a guy who was convicted of election fraud in the 1950's, with no mention of any current events whatsoever, and Twatter flagged it.

That’s ridiculous. Their algorithm must only do key words, so it will end up flagging any tweet with those words. I wonder if just saying “fraud” on Twitter and nothing else will get you flagged?

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Either side winning will spell doom for black Americans.

Good thing I'm not black according to biden.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I want to get off from the circus this election has become

Mr. President's Wild Ride has no brakes.

 

[DeadFish]

Good thing I'm not black according to biden.

I suggest getting the fuck out.

The situation is similar to being a Christian in the middle east. If the Shiites win they get screwed. If the sunnnis win they get screwed.

Black America owes the united states nothing for obvious reasons. Staying here is going be suicide in the upcoming decades.

 

[Cristobal’s Colon]

That’s ridiculous. Their algorithm must only do key words, so it will end up flagging any tweet with those words. I wonder if just saying “fraud” on Twitter and nothing else will get you flagged?

It probably checks for context and flags anything associated with election fraud.