On the 17th of June 2018, Oliver did a 200k celebration stream with Nyk, and during this part he asked him about his old Nykytyne2 channel:
Oliver: Was your channel also called ContraPoints then? Or did you have a different... were you, like, "the rational ..."
Nyk: I did make videos a long time ago under the name
ContraPoints. There was a different name for a few other channels I had before.
Oliver: Oh, nice.
Nyk: Which we shall not discuss.
This was their 3rd public Livestream together.
Their first Livestream is archived here. The second Livestream, which was a cooking stream, got deleted when Nyk purged his early Livestreams to cover up. However, it was clear over the course of these Livestreams that Nyk and Oliver were getting increasingly close.
Eventually Oliver visited Nyk in Baltimore, presumably in late November of 2018. In
this 29th November of 2018 video, there is a man that Nyk refers to as "Manuel" handing Nyk drinks during the Livestream and laughing in the background, that people in the chat openly speculated was Oliver staying at Nyk's home in Baltimore.
Here's Nyk looking up at "Manuel" serving him a drink:
Soon after Oliver left Baltimore, Nyk himself followed him to the UK.
Here Nyk talks about visiting Oliver in the UK:
(Responding to a question from a fan asking) "Are you familiar with a channel called PhilosophyTube, Olly is like your bizarro-world counterpart." (Smiling) "I've heard of it... yeah, I'm a fan, I love Olly." (Short pause, as if he's wondering whether he should mention this) "We just hung out a bunch."
Here, during the same video, Nyk told the story about his "dildo cleaning detergent" and other sex play related items getting confiscated by UK border authorities when he took his bag of sex toys along with him to the UK to meet Oliver and "hang out a bunch". You can imagine what they actually "hung" out.
Nyk: Thaaanks Chris... well, my funny story from the last couple of weeks is that airport security... so, I was coming back to the United States from a foreign country [ he means the from the UK where he had just visited Oliver ], and the airport security in that country [the UK] told me that what I should do to avoid paying to check my bag, is just take my bag through security and then I can check it inside security. But I have all my stuff in there, the fluids and stuff, and they go: "Oh, it's fine.". So then I take my bag to the security checkpoint. I walk through the thing. Which I do with no trouble because, my last video is not a joke, I am actually very good at tucking, so good at tucking, that the TSA scanner does not clock me. And I get there, and they wanna search my bag, and I'm like, look, I'm gonna check this. And they go, you can't. And I go, but they told me that... so, I had to sit there, watching them search my bag, and my bag is full of, like, fucking kink stuff. Like, lube, and my enema (bottle), like, massage oil, and sex toy cleaner, and they're like: "What's this, what's this?", and I'm like: "It's for fucking, OK?". And they just confiscated so much of my stuff. I was so mad. But I guess it's kinda funny.
Now, why would Nyk bring along "lube, an enema bottle, massage oil and sex toy cleaner" and other "kink stuff" that "is for fucking, OK"v to the UK while visiting Oliver there? Anyone's guess I guess. Here on KF we speculated that Nyk and Oliver were an item, and so did his fans.
In
this 3rd of May 2019 video following Nyk's FFS procedure (hence the stupid face mask with the chains he's wearing, which makes him look like a harem wife or something), Nyk was complaining about his stans on Facebook speculating about whether he and Oliver are a couple:
"ContraPoints Dank Meme Stash says - so that's a community [on Facebook, it's a Facebook page where people post memes based on screenshots of Nyk's videos]: How do you feel about BreadTube and your fan community shipping? We like fun but always aim to be respectful."
Nyk: "Uh (deep sigh) It's been kinda wearing me down lately, to be honest. I understand that people are gonna do it anyway, so me complaining about it really isn't gonna help anything. But it is a little weird, overtime, and like, it kind of weirdly affects friendships I have with actual people some times. The fact that there is constantly shipping going on, and the way that we are discussed online, it's kinda weird. At first I thought it was kinda cute. And sometimes I still find it cute. But, like... (sigh) it's also weird though. Like, when I mentioned in public that - in connection with certain of my colleagues - so frequently, it's like speculation about whether we're banging. It's kinda weird. It's not my favourite thing. But I also understand that, I am a public figure now, and I guess this is what I signed up for, so... that's kinda my problem. Say hello to everyone at the meme stash for me. And I don't judge them, I don't judge people for shipping. I understand why people do it, I would be doing it myself probably if I was in the audience, but... it has gotten a little weird on my end. But, that's my problem, like I said."
And finally,
here's what Nyk said about his public break-up with "Chad" aka Oliver back in February of 2020 following the
Shame video:
"I don't feel guilty about my past... well, I do. I feel guilty about Chad. I do feel guilty about what I put him through because of my fucking bullshit. But also, he's told me he has no regrets about the relationship. And honestly, I don't either. I don't regret having been through that. We were talking about, like, detransitioners who say that they needed to go through their transition experience. I needed to be a straight girl [read, a homo], a "straight girl" for two years. You know what I mean? I just don't think I could be the person that I am today if I hadn't had those experiences. And so, I don't regret it. I don't have any regret, I don't have any guilt about it. And Chad is a good man, he really is. ... I wanna take a 5 second break so I don't cry on camera."
Keep in mind, Oliver now claims that he started taking HRT "a year ago", so that would be in late January/early February of 2020. If Oliver had told Nyk about his transitioning intent back then, that means Nyk was already aware of Oliver's intent to go trans when he uttered these words about their ruined relationship. Nyk was aware of Oliver wanting to become a woman, but he still referred to him as a man, as "Chad", when discussing their break-up. I am guessing because Oliver had asked Nyk to keep his transition secret for now, and Nyk complied.