Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

[Karl der Grosse]

I've got my fingers crossed for gangrene.

 

[just lurking]

shes crying about something

 

[Nothing To See Here]

I'm frankly amazed they don't have her on (or haven't had her on, prior to shit getting so unbelievably fucked it's almost pointless I guess) 1-to-1 observation. It's a pain, but it's entirely possible to do, and it would give them motivation for a forced psych stay (where it's a lot easier and more standard to do 1-to-1 or even 2-to-1 observations) if she was only declining when they took her off the 1-to-1... Once you've got someone under psych, it's then a lot easier to keep them from doing stupid shit like trying to peel their own legs apart - doctors can't necessarily give someone long-term sedatives for the sake of it, or confiscate anything she could be using for scraping, or force her to wear mitts so she can't pick, but a psych unit definitely could.

 

[Sammyrye]

Niks coin slot anus is less nauseating than the hole in this chicks leg. You truly could see thru that shit. I gotta agree that its pretty metal. To metal for me tho. Jfc. All the cows are being exceptional lately.

 

[Amorette]

Chop chop.

https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/comments/lx56ik/kelly_update/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MunchSnark/comments/lxojle/rumor_kelly_is_up_for_double_amputation_according/

Both seems to have the same source reddit user amorette93, but OP only dm'd the mods with proof of her source so it's possible they're all bullshitting.

Who says I won't share here? It's a one person PM. I will get no more jucy deets if I post it so I'm giving it a few more days to post. I believe the MS mod who saw my screens is on this board. Up to them if they want to confirm here. I value my Reddit too much to be bullshitting, and my posting history there's shows that. It's not a public post. It's a private one on one that says she's getting an am then will try to kill herself, then get an admit to psych. I received a second message when she posted she was seeing plastics before it was deleted. You have 100 % of the info I have now. I know y'all like deets but if you want kelly inside info this is the way unless someone else has private info.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Who says I won't share here? It's a one person PM. I will get no more jucy deets if I post it so I'm giving it a few more days to post. I believe the MS mod who saw my screens is on this board. Up to them if they want to confirm here. I value my Reddit too much to be bullshitting, and my posting history there's shows that. It's not a public post. It's a private one on one that says she's getting an am then will try to kill herself, then get an admit to psych. I received a second message when she posted she was seeing plastics before it was deleted. You have 100 % of the info I have now. I know y'all like deets but if you want kelly inside info this is the way unless someone else has private info.

no1curr

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I'm frankly amazed they don't have her on (or haven't had her on, prior to shit getting so unbelievably fucked it's almost pointless I guess) 1-to-1 observation.

Im surprised she isn't sectioned/declared unfit to make decisions. Like yeah, its fecking hard to get that done, but one look at those legs and her doctor's notes should have anyone signing her as mentally unfit.

There are group homes that still have to have 1:1 supervision 24/7 of clients so they never leave your sight. Best part is that unlike Kayla, these are usually ultra-retards.

 

[Nothing To See Here]

There are group homes that still have to have 1:1 supervision 24/7 of clients so they never leave your sight. Best part is that unlike Kayla, these are usually ultra-retards.

I'd disagree, kind of.

Spoiler: long psychiatric medfagging

1:1 or 2:1 obs (for clarity if people don't know, 2:1 is where two staff members watch one patient at all times, including asleep/shitting/showering etc.; as far as I know it's the highest level of surveillance you can put a psych inpatient under) are usually for people who are actively a danger to themselves and/or others (i.e. high suicide risk or high risk of violence towards staff). It's generally not used for tards - who, whilst hard work in other ways, are usually not actively trying to kill themselves or murder staff and therefore don't need to be watched every second of the day if they're in an environment that's been made secure for tards (which most group homes have been).

1:1 or 2:1 is the norm for semi-secure psychiatric units and up which, given the degree of Kelly's self-harm I'm assuming she would be placed in (especially if she tried to resist an involuntary psych admission to the detriment of staff safety, which seems possible with her). It's unlikely she'd be placed in a "group home"; those are for people either with some kind of condition that confers lifelong intellectual/learning disability (to the point someone can't live on their own safely because they're retarded), or are for people with chronic but semi-managed psychiatric conditions (that also stop them from living on their own safely, because they're going to hurt themself or someone else). The two populations are generally not mixed - because someone that's retarded but otherwise just getting on with living their life, plus someone that's non-retarded but thinks he's superman and also god wants him to kill all the sinners, is a shit combo for obvious reasons.

Kelly's not got an ID/LD, and her psychiatric condition(s) are clearly not even remotely managed (if she's even been diagnosed with anything at all). She'd need to be involuntarily admitted to acute psychiatric care, which would probably be a ward within a hospital (or a special building within hospital grounds/attached to a hospital) until they got... whatever the fuck is going on with her under control (with a combo of meds and therapy; could take months, maybe even a year) to the point she'd be safe in a managed facility with less aggressive observation.

Obligatory disclaimer that I'm not Canadian, so it might work a little differently over there. But I suspect the broad strokes are the same. I'm just bemused why they haven't done it already - like I said, you can put someone on 1:1 at a hospital if you even suspect they're a psych risk, and given the leaks about her doctor(s) knowing the injuries are self-inflicted, I can't see why they wouldn't be able to justify it...

 

[Poop Shoot]

Damn those wounds go really high up on her thighs. They'll definitely chop above the knee but I wonder just how much thigh will be left.

Hats off to her determination though. Too bad she couldn't put it towards something useful like learning a fucking marketable skill. But borderliner's are gonna borderline.

 

[flight of ideas]

Well, I read the whole shebang in one go and nothing sums it up better than this:

I wandered into this thread randomly and now I regret everything.

Nothing really to contribute that hasn’t been said before, but wow BPD and Munchausen’s together really pack a wallop.

 

[Yeeticus]

Im surprised she isn't sectioned/declared unfit to make decisions. Like yeah, its fecking hard to get that done, but one look at those legs and her doctor's notes should have anyone signing her as mentally unfit.

There are group homes that still have to have 1:1 supervision 24/7 of clients so they never leave your sight. Best part is that unlike Kayla, these are usually ultra-retards.

Who is Kayla? Did you mean Kelly or there another cow?

Who says I won't share here? It's a one person PM. I will get no more jucy deets if I post it so I'm giving it a few more days to post. I believe the MS mod who saw my screens is on this board. Up to them if they want to confirm here. I value my Reddit too much to be bullshitting, and my posting history there's shows that. It's not a public post. It's a private one on one that says she's getting an am then will try to kill herself, then get an admit to psych. I received a second message when she posted she was seeing plastics before it was deleted. You have 100 % of the info I have now. I know y'all like deets but if you want kelly inside info this is the way unless someone else has private info.

No one will care unless you actually share full details and proof. We aren’t Reddit.

It's ironic AF that they're all wanting receipts now when 99% of the time they're happy to speculate until the cows come home (pun absolutely intended).

Also, they really can't get it into their heads that Kellys picking isn't compulsive, it's a choice. She could have stopped this any time, and chose not to. You can't sign yourself out, especially after a psych assessment for a wellness check multiple times if you're not right in the head.

I read all comments in both those threads, so many people wanting more info, but don't come here because they don't have the stomach for it, so they go to her insta. Wtf do they think they're going to learn from there?

Edited to remove old post of mine that got eaten and reappeared just now

That post is what led me to finally deleting Reddit, it’s obnoxious. The op of that comment (whom I’m also replying to in this) seems to be baiting instead of just providing proof or more information on how they know. It’s just as annoying as Kelly vagueposting. Sorry for my soapbox lmao.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Who is Kayla? Did you mean Kelly or there another cow?



No one will care unless you actually share full details and proof. We aren’t Reddit.

That post is what led me to finally deleting Reddit, it’s obnoxious. The op of that comment (whom I’m also replying to in this) seems to be baiting instead of just providing proof or more information on how they know. It’s just as annoying as Kelly vagueposting. Sorry for my soapbox lmao.

Yes, Kayla is another cow. Tomato tomatoe, except that cow doesn't strip the flesh off its skin.

Anyway, we do have speds here so bad their group homes do have 1:1 24/7 staffing, but trust me, you'll never see those 'things' in the light of day. It isn't the immobile speds that you can strap in their wheelchair and forget about it. No, its the super tard rage self-harm 1 IQs that are the worst of the worst.

I was only speculating that these things exist, and she'd be in good company (also they'd never send her there, but the thought amuses me).

On the topic of super tards and self-harm. Worst one was a mobile male, super autistic. Totally non-communicative. But he would GRIND HIS TEETH. CONSTANTLY. Why the ever loving hell they didnt rip every single tooth out of that mouth I will never know.

 

[just lurking]

Yes, Kayla is another cow. Tomato tomatoe, except that cow doesn't strip the flesh off its skin.

Anyway, we do have speds here so bad their group homes do have 1:1 24/7 staffing, but trust me, you'll never see those 'things' in the light of day. It isn't the immobile speds that you can strap in their wheelchair and forget about it. No, its the super tard rage self-harm 1 IQs that are the worst of the worst.

I was only speculating that these things exist, and she'd be in good company (also they'd never send her there, but the thought amuses me).

On the topic of super tards and self-harm. Worst one was a mobile male, super autistic. Totally non-communicative. But he would GRIND HIS TEETH. CONSTANTLY. Why the ever loving hell they didnt rip every single tooth out of that mouth I will never know.

Removing all would lead to bone loss in his jaw and cause complications.
But so would teeth grinding (especially TMJ). They should've given him a bite plate or a mouth guard

 

[Kernel of Corn]

Can confirm that she’s got dry gangrene on her toe. Crunchy.

Also, does anyone know what caused her to claim there would be no more personal updates or whatever ?

 

[Oscar Winner]

Also, does anyone know what caused her to claim there would be no more personal updates or whatever ?

Probably people like that exceptional poster upthread spouting off “jucy deets” here, and all over reddit, and Kelly reads both places. Kelly has hinted at suicide previously if they did ever amputate. It's not even fucking news.

ETA- just had a look at her insta, dropbox link is gone. She big mad.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

Canadian care of the disabled sperging:

Spoiler

I don't live in BC, so I don't know what the patchwork of services looks like there. But in the smaller province where I live, there's a fuzzy line between two different departments. The health department takes care of sick people-- hospitals, including psychiatric, nursing homes, rehabs, and home care. The community services (aka "welfare") department takes care of *some* disabled people. But there are gaps: some disabled folks qualify for a federal pension instead, for instance. Some clients get tossed like a hot potato between government departments, both trying to make them the other one's responsibility to pay for.

So your average autist might go to a group home. In a small province, a lot of the group homes are small family initiatives or non-profits, with bespoke solutions formed around specific clients. Community service funds them, but hasn't built any new ones and has hundreds on the wait list. They also fund group homes for people with severe mental illness, or long-term alcoholism, intellectual disabilities, physical disabilities, etc.

Other autists get funding support for an independent living program and/or respite, living on their own or with family. Some severe violent autists get 2:1 staffing 24/7, and can cost thousands of dollars a day to maintain.

There are a few other facilities and programs I won't sperg about the specifics of ...

In Kelly's case, I can imagine she would start out the responsibility of health department in short term. Rehab and/or home care. (If not psych admission, but acute care beds are scarce.) But then the pressure would be to get her off their caseload, and into the welfare system in the long term. But there's no openings in group homes for physically disabled. And most apartments aren't wheelchair accessible, especially the bathroom. So they'd probably end up sticking her in the nursing home. That's the typical fate of physically disabled people who need more than 20 hours a week in home care here. BC is much kinder to the disabled, so she'll probably be spared that fate at least. BC is also top tier for wheelchair accessibility.

Has anyone speculated about whether her doctors have tried to put her on any kind of psych meds? Would the picking behaviour respond to OCD meds, or is hers a purposeful destruction more than a compulsion?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Has anyone speculated about whether her doctors have tried to put her on any kind of psych meds? Would the picking behaviour respond to OCD meds, or is hers a purposeful destruction more than a compulsion?

Purposeful destruction. I've never seen a compulsion lead to this amount of destruction before and I've worked with compulsive skin pickers they don't go to this extreme.

Actually found an article dealing with major self mutilation during psychotic episode:
Major Self Mutilation Requiring Amputation

Even it isnt as crazy as the shit she does.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

Actually found an article dealing with major self mutilation during psychotic episode:
Major Self Mutilation Requiring Amputation

Even it isnt as crazy as the shit she does.

If thy (left) hand offend thee...

Cutting off your hand can make sense for a biblically-driven psychotic.

Reminds me of the novel I Know This Much Is True. Good read.

 

[Anne Hyroe]

Purposeful destruction. I've never seen a compulsion lead to this amount of destruction before and I've worked with compulsive skin pickers they don't go to this extreme.

Actually found an article dealing with major self mutilation during psychotic episode:
Major Self Mutilation Requiring Amputation

Even it isnt as crazy as the shit she does.

Spoiler: Surgery Spergery

That was absolutely fascinating and so impressive to see such a good outcome (on this occasion). I can’t imagine being the father who witnessed it but hopefully his trauma is lessened by knowing how his quick actions helped his son.

Surgery’s not my Specialty but treating self-harming patients is pretty across the board for medfags. I’m not sure how similar the Canadian health system is to the UK’s but here there would be all sorts of discussions with the legal team before any sort of surgery or long-term 1:1 on a patient like Kelly who’s not actively psychotic here. It’s not as simple as knowing what will save her life and doing it, even if not doing so is damaging to the patient, their family and an enormous waste of resources. I take back what I said about the team trying to save her knees though, that’s not happening now - she’ll either have a bilateral above-knee amputation or die with them still blackened but attached.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Spoiler: Surgery Spergery

That was absolutely fascinating and so impressive to see such a good outcome (on this occasion). I can’t imagine being the father who witnessed it but hopefully his trauma is lessened by knowing how his quick actions helped his son.

Surgery’s not my Specialty but treating self-harming patients is pretty across the board for medfags. I’m not sure how similar the Canadian health system is to the UK’s but here there would be all sorts of discussions with the legal team before any sort of surgery or long-term 1:1 on a patient like Kelly who’s not actively psychotic here. It’s not as simple as knowing what will save her life and doing it, even if not doing so is damaging to the patient, their family and an enormous waste of resources. I take back what I said about the team trying to save her knees though, that’s not happening now - she’ll either have a bilateral above-knee amputation or die with them still blackened but attached.

It came up earlier in thread about the differences. In the US, at least in my state, this woman would be involuntary in a state hospital for the worst of the worst. Seen people commited to state for a LOT less. Hell, in the US if you get 72 houred enough times in a month you can easily be commited to state.

Since some people won't know what state hospitals means these are the long term hospitals where restraints and medicating are still used in abudance. You go in and your gonna be in there a long while because its involuntary commitment and therse lots of legal connotations involved in making sure you are safe again. Minimum stay in these places is counted in years not weeks like a psych ward.