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Christ isn't flawed?
First of all, claiming God is flawed is literal heresy.

The one who called Peter Satan?
From Mathew 16:21-23
21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. 22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!” 23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

Here Jesus is rebuking Peter for saying that his death must not happen, where as Jesus death is a requirement for his resurrection, leading to salvation for all. He speaks that Peter's concern are human based and not foreseeing of their divine nature (valuing human life against the divine life is the work of the devil.
The one who doubts in the garden?
The one who doubts in the garden?
It's called the agony in the garden, not the doubt. Jesus knew his Father will be done.
From Mathew 26:39:
Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.”

He wants another alternative then dying for all of mankind, as he is fully man (and fully divine), and the man part would not like to suffer. But he understands his Fathers will.


Flips over tables in a temple in a fit of rage?
From Mathew 21:12-13:
12 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13 “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’”
Jesus' house was full of moneylender, people full of sin and greed. He removed them from his house, not out of rage but of justifiable anger. (The peaceful, never hurt a fly Jesus never heard of Matthew 18:6). Jesus is the ruler of the house and does not want people lying on his behalf, while harming good people.


Randomly spites one fig tree for not having figs out of season?
The fig tree is a parable to the Jews not accepting Christ as king. From "An Introduction to the Gospels" :
Mark uses the cursing of the barren fig tree to bracket and comment on his story of the Jewish temple: Jesus and his disciples are on their way to Jerusalem when Jesus curses a fig tree because it bears no fruit; in Jerusalem he drives the money-changers from the temple; and the next morning the disciples find that the fig tree has withered and died, with the implied message that the temple is cursed and will wither because, like the fig tree, it failed to produce the fruit of righteousness.

The entire point of christ is that he's a flawed human but also devine. If you're going to do your cod theology at least get the central tenet of the New Testament correct you goddamned idiot.
"If you're going to do your cod theology at least get the central tenet of the New Testament correct you goddamned idiot."

If you're going to claim statements about the New Testament, at least read it once and google search these basic points. This isn't anything controversial and has been understood for centuries.
 
Christ isn't flawed?

The one who called Peter Satan?

The one who doubts in the garden?

Flips over tables in a temple in a fit of rage?

Randomly spites one fig tree for not having figs out of season?

The entire point of christ is that he's a flawed human but also devine. If you're going to do your cod theology at least get the central tenet of the New Testament correct you goddamned idiot.
Well not flawed as in that he did not sin.
 
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Good god, this thread is getting derailed very quickly with Christian sperging. But I will say one thing: the Catholic Church is not necessarily resistant to being pushed leftward and changing their doctrine because of it. If it wasn't, something as big as Vatican II would never have happened.
Thread is derailing, quick I'll mention it's derailing while making two very serious and highly debated statements.

In short, there's multiple things that the Catholic Church can never change due to a combination of apostolic succession and scripture. The "left-wing" churches you find in the world are protestant that are self made and have zero traces to the apostles and Christ. The protestant reformation allowed for personal interpretation of the bible to be the foundation of each of their world view, and has lead to multiple issues from not understanding meaning behind scripture, or completely removing texts to fit their narrative (see the Deuterocanonical books). Every protestant church (Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican/Episcopal, Calvinist) all view their personal interpretation as the only interpretation and others as false (even their other "right-wing" counterpart churches).

To makes things really clear, these things cannot be changed:
Gay Marriage
-Marriage is only between a man and a woman
Gay rights
-Homosexuality is expressly banned in scripture and in previous councils
Women Pastors/Priest
-Impossible due to Catholic Priest being in persona of Christ. Christ is male and thus the role of priest is limited only to males.
Trans Rights
-If trans people exist, God would've made a mistake. God cannot make mistakes, as he is God.
 
I have a personal question for those who really follow Breadtubers. Is there a Breadtuber that isn't just some person who mistakes well edited and lengthy video as an "educated" point, someone who is just trying to justify keeping their consumerist ways going and attempting to use "The State" as a means to do so, or just a Destiny tier "Debate Me Bro" types that don't even talk about the points at hand and just attempt to leave the opponent on the defensive.
 
I have a personal question for those who really follow Breadtubers. Is there a Breadtuber that isn't just some person who mistakes well edited and lengthy video as an "educated" point, someone who is just trying to justify keeping their consumerist ways going and attempting to use "The State" as a means to do so, or just a Destiny tier "Debate Me Bro" types that don't even talk about the points at hand and just attempt to leave the opponent on the defensive.
I don't know enough about economics to judge the guy, but "Unlearning Economics" is one who seems more interested in real world economics than pure posturing.
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Though I don't "really follow breadtubers", I just think their drama is funny and it's a good idea to have an understanding of contemporary politics.
 
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I'd say almost no-one on the internet has an understanding of contemporary politics since most political videos are Prager-U or Breadtuber tier quality with some outliers that actually understand the history behind movements.
I agree. It's just that I'm personally trying to do my best: Being acquainted with various international extreme groups online, and my local groups/parties with actual political relevance.
 
I have a personal question for those who really follow Breadtubers. Is there a Breadtuber that isn't just some person who mistakes well edited and lengthy video as an "educated" point, someone who is just trying to justify keeping their consumerist ways going and attempting to use "The State" as a means to do so, or just a Destiny tier "Debate Me Bro" types that don't even talk about the points at hand and just attempt to leave the opponent on the defensive.
Depends on what you mean by breadtubers, there's plenty of lefty channels that are run by very educated and well spoken people when it comes to economic or philosophical issues. But I don't personally consider those channels to be a part of breadtube as the content isn't similar enough and they don't pretend to be pseudo educational or pseduo media analysis channels but instead focus on getting specific arguments and ideas across in the most dry and clear manner possible.

But the one thing that does interest me about breadtube is their major figures, contra points, Lindsay Ellis and Hbomberguy refuse the label or pretend it doesn't exist. So im guessing it's not something that the more public breadtube figures want to associate with, and probably for good reason.
 
Depends on what you mean by breadtubers, there's plenty of lefty channels that are run by very educated and well spoken people when it comes to economic or philosophical issues. But I don't personally consider those channels to be a part of breadtube as the content isn't similar enough and they don't pretend to be pseudo educational or pseduo media analysis channels but instead focus on getting specific arguments and ideas across in the most dry and clear manner possible.
That is fair enough, though I notice the general pattern of Breadtube is at least the allusions to being An-Comms, when in reality most are simply Neo-Liberals who just want a far more generous welfare state.
 
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That is fair enough, though I notice the general pattern of Breadtube is at least the allusions to being An-Comms, when in reality most are simply Neo-Liberals who just want a far more generous welfare state.
Most breadtubers are liars with no real morals. They'll decry vaush for not having beliefs then change or lie about their own depending on the situation. When I did have a Twitter and followed these losers they would engage in outright dishonest behavior. Easy example Jack saint

Claimed to be a libertarian socialist and even posted a stupid political compass test to prove it. A few weeks later, advocates for communism in his Bon-appetite video. That's kinda minor I guess though.

Second incident that's obviously a lie is he claimed Mauler refused to debate him for months. When in reality he had blocked Mauler and refused every invitation to go on efap.

Almost all of them do shit like this. I guess that's why the bigger figures like Ellis, contra and Hbomberguy refuse or pretend like breadtube doesn't exist.
 
Wait, is Hunter going full lefty now? No more "own da libs" content? Not that it was great to begin with, but when he starts to call his lost subscriber base "Nazis", you just know he went off the deep end.
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I have a feeling that his girlfriend might've lent a hand in this inspiring change.
I feel like hunter should get shit for how ugly his wife is more than anything else.
 
Ohhhhh where was this?
On Twitter a long time ago, it was when Mauler and cosmonaut Markus got into a Twitter bitch fight over one of his reviews, Jack was commenting saying that Markus shouldn't bother since Mauler refused to debate/discuss shit with him for months.

I should've been better at taking screens but I hadn't posted on the farms in a year or two at that point so it wasn't on my mind to do so.
 
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Breadtube is just the left wing version of the Alt-Lite grifters and spergy anti-SJW types that were popular among the center right five years ago. E-leftists, despite believing themselves to be transgressive and forward thinking, are aping the tired content style of the center right while also being 100% beholden to megacorp tech platforms. Meanwhile, the dissident right personalities are all migrated onto censorship resistant platforms and accept crypto due to the fear of the financial system shutting them down. Which group seems like the actual radicals and subversives against global capital here?
 
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Most breadtubers are liars with no real morals. They'll decry vaush for not having beliefs then change or lie about their own depending on the situation. When I did have a Twitter and followed these losers they would engage in outright dishonest behavior. Easy example Jack saint

Claimed to be a libertarian socialist and even posted a stupid political compass test to prove it. A few weeks later, advocates for communism in his Bon-appetite video. That's kinda minor I guess though.

Second incident that's obviously a lie is he claimed Mauler refused to debate him for months. When in reality he had blocked Mauler and refused every invitation to go on efap.

Almost all of them do shit like this. I guess that's why the bigger figures like Ellis, contra and Hbomberguy refuse or pretend like breadtube doesn't exist.
Don't forget even the bigger figures can pull dirty tricks on their opponents as well. Remember at Mythcon when Hbomberguy promised to have a debate with Greg Fuller/Armoured Skeptic but then the next day, added him & June to that blocklist of his?
I've seen this image before, nice find👌. And up in the top-right corner is the wretched bitch that started it all. I really do wonder what the 2010s would be like without her & the other leftist woke moral guardians and we still just had the classic right-wing conservatard moral guardians (or better yet, no moral guardians whatsoever).
 
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