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Not just any insurance, but government provided insurance. Troons intentionally become unemployed for their surgeries, but someone’s grandma needs to pay out of pocket for her bifocals.
Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers
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Well fuck that just makes it even worse.
Can't get bifocals or more than one type of anti-baby protection but we'll slice up your tits and give you a phony bologna or Nurgle's hole on the taxpayer's dime just well.
Fucksake I hate this gay earth.
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Are you a natal woman in 'murica and have breast cancer?
Are you a natal woman and need a mastectomy?
So you got the mastectomy, but...where's my areola?? Spot me my areola back!! I do NOT feel human without my areola!!
Insurance: LOL, pound sand. Cosmetic lol.
NATALIE Stewart/JULIANNA Aprileo: Hi, doctor, today I feel like RON. Plz give mastectomy.
Doctor: No prob, fam. And areolas are always on the house!
Fuck this gay earth.
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Solution: all breast cancer victims temp declare themselves ftm then switch back.
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I must admit I'm struggling to understand if this part is supposed to be satire, but if not, I can only say WTF? Nobody - and I do mean nobody, save for perhaps extremely young "pediatric" transitioners, and even then they arguably have a choice in whether to pursue medical interventions on their bodies - lacks a choice in trooning out. It's not something you're "struck" with, like a stroke or a brain tumor, it's a conscious choice throughout every step you take. I don't know a lot about this Newgent person and if her surgeries failed and she regrets trooning out that's too bad, but it was all entirely her own doing.
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It would be super counter productive too. If you've already got a broad manly ribcage, taking the ribs off the bottom will just make it look even more cubelike, especially in combination with wide-ass man shoulders and narrow man hips.
This question pops up every once in awhile, and I'm always amazed at the stupidity.
I've seen a picture before of some guy with a bimbo fetish who got it done. It looked terrible (very uncanny-valley ish), and I think it was said that he needs to wear a corset all the time in order to provide support and prevent his organs from shifting around.
Looking for surgical solutions to everything is indicative of troon incompetance. Your ribs aren't actually that big, it's that you've got no waistline and skinny hips/no ass. Normal-sized women who aren't super muscular or fat have defined waistlines and men don't, and no amount of HRT is going to change it all the way. TW have no distinction in their torsos, it's just a long flat mass from shoulder to groin with some tits stapled on the front, with none of the definition that a woman has dividing her ribs from her hips. Only really fit men have defined waists like that, but at that level of muscularity no one's gonna be mistaking him for a woman.
Imagine being such a desperate coomer that you would rather have a surgeon remove the bones protecting your vital organs than just buy a waist cincher and start doing squats. Corsetry would genuinely be a good move for some of these goobers: not only would it feminise the figure, but it would do wonders for the terrible knuckledragging postures that all TIMs seem to have. (you can tell that none of them got made to go to ballet lessons when they were children.)
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Men’s waists can also be flared when they are extremely underweight. Some MTFs do chase the anorexia dragon to look more ‘womanly’.
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My theory is that this comes from the “I fucking love science” crowd who don’t actually know jack shit but have grown up on pop-sci bullshit and idolize science as literally magic that can do anything.
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True, but being extremely underweight also makes their male bone structure more pronounced, so the net result is still negative.
I think only massive fattasses can truly pass as the other sex, and even then height often gives the game away.
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They have surgery to remove bones & most parts of their genitalia...and eventually they remove themselves from existence.To take a break from phalloplasties...
Here's a metoidioplasty. The first couple pics have been posted here before, but she recently gave an update:
She's not satisfied with the size and is considering getting phallo now. Gonna keep chasing that dragon!
And now a couple lovely stinkditches courtesy of Plebbit:
These butchers all really do have their own unique techniques. No standardization.
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This question pops up every once in awhile, and I'm always amazed at the stupidity.
I've seen a picture before of some guy with a bimbo fetish who got it done. It looked terrible (very uncanny-valley ish), and I think it was said that he needs to wear a corset all the time in order to provide support and prevent his organs from shifting around.
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How is someone 'did not ask to be trans anymore than an accident victim asked for the accident to happen'?? - I do recognise that gender dysphoria might felt horrible that the prospect of transitioning seemed like the only option because the society around it. But I wouldn't see it the same as motor vehicle accident (If you're not drunk driving or not being careful), where it comes to you without knowing and you have no say in it. Like what @Peaches Demure said, a lot of this is a choice. There is a difference between being struck with a disease that slowly make your eyes degrade into blindness without prior knowledge, and knowingly pour bleaches into your eyes then regretting it later and excusing "B-But they didn't try to stop me from doing it!". And most importantly, Why still uphold the illusion that it is your 'true identity' even when you started to see the lies falling apart?
Accepting that you've done something horrible to yourself or a person you love is extremely hard to accept - It's easier to blame others or keep the illusion going and believe that you've been right all along. True self acceptance is difficult. The sunk cost fallacy, and the hope that the investments are going to be worth it in the end. This is the reason why many people kept addiction going, throwing money into a failing business they started to realise nothing can be done to keep it alive, keeping brain-dead patients alive hoping there's a miracle, stick with their own failing convictions that all end in tragedy.
This doesn't mean i don't have sympathy, but I really don't think trying to blame others or playing the victim forever would be sustainable or healthy.
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I'm becoming convinced that enbys get their surgeries by claiming to be trans. Sure seems like a lot of them discover they're enby once the surgery has been paid for.
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Makes me curious, is it the same for men with testicular cancer? "Lol buddy the only way you're getting your nuts off is if we're putting a stinkditch in you".
But this is to be expected, since a lot of the times you get lucky and once the cancer is cut off it won't come back and the pharma fatcats fucking drool over lifelong customers, no matter how short that life may be.
I can't believe a time where they'd put a belt in your mouth, give you a fifth of alcohol, crack you over the head then cut into you with an unsanitized saw was probably doing "more" to try to help people than now, goddamn.
"How you make the scrotum look so nice and full"To take a break from phalloplasties...
Here's a metoidioplasty. The first couple pics have been posted here before, but she recently gave an update:
She's not satisfied with the size and is considering getting phallo now. Gonna keep chasing that dragon!
And now a couple lovely stinkditches courtesy of Plebbit:
These butchers all really do have their own unique techniques. No standardization.
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This question pops up every once in awhile, and I'm always amazed at the stupidity.
I've seen a picture before of some guy with a bimbo fetish who got it done. It looked terrible (very uncanny-valley ish), and I think it was said that he needs to wear a corset all the time in order to provide support and prevent his organs from shifting around.
Jesus christ just switch to heroin at this point, it's more fulfilling as an addiction.
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Anecdotal but two people in my circle went that route for both hormones & top surgery. Docs in some places require a year of testosterone and even elsewhere, they greatly prefer it. Redditors advise only mentioning 'your specific dysphoria' or claiming to align closer to the binary.
It's getting easier though, they used to strongly encourage/require you lose weight before surgery. These days at least half the posts on r/topsurgery are from chubby-obese TIFs.
The #1 thing any TIF should do is lose weight anyway. Hormones and bulking > hormones and subpar top surgery. Female fat distribution is always a dead giveaway. That said, apparently some insurances (list) now cover contouring & liposuction. Meanwhile a heap of reconstructive surgeries are denied, ex-fatties can't get skin removal covered, etc.
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Those two bottom pictures are some of the best TIF results i've seen, and even then they're not particularly impressive if you compare them to males of a similar type. Even the most masculine TIFs who pass still look weak and scrawny compared to normal men of average height and fitness. I wonder how tall these women are, especially the second one? I can't imagine anyone would really want to transition into a short, stocky, ugly cholo. She's got some good shoulders on her though, honestly I probably wouldn't clock her if she had a shirt on. The only giveaway are those big hips.
Those shorter scars are infinitely better than the ones that the fatties have though. Really does go to show that the less skin and fat there is to deal with, the better the result will be. I really feel for TiFs who end up with those sort of dog-ear pouches under their armpits where the skin's been sewn weirdly, it must be very uncomfortable. and hard to cover up without some sort of compression shirt. Must be a hell of a job to heal a wound that big.
Those shorter scars are infinitely better than the ones that the fatties have though. Really does go to show that the less skin and fat there is to deal with, the better the result will be. I really feel for TiFs who end up with those sort of dog-ear pouches under their armpits where the skin's been sewn weirdly, it must be very uncomfortable. and hard to cover up without some sort of compression shirt. Must be a hell of a job to heal a wound that big.
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Phantom1326 has been documenting her phalloplasty healing progress on Reddit. Some of her pics have already been posted here earlier, but I thought it would be nice to lay it all out chronologically:
(All NSFW)
She had it done by Dr. Crane at the Crane Center. He has a pretty bad reputation and is embroiled in lawsuits, from what I've heard. Fun fact: he's one of those few, rare surgeons who offers Genital Nullification ("Nullo") surgeries - see here.
"Everything looks good"
She says she didn't do any hair removal treatments and doesn't plan to. "I'll just shave it"
She's unhappy with her "ugly balls" and in a lot of pain from the skin graft sites. She clarifies that her neopenis was made from an arm skin graft (RFF), and the leg skin graft was a shallow one done to cover the arm.
She also says she went with Dr. Crane because he's willing to do everything short of installing an erectile device in the stage 1 surgery. Most doctors (iirc) don't do glansplasty and scrotoplasty in the first surgery.
Says she's been bleeding a lot from the tip of her neopenis (uh oh... foreshadowing). The surgery was covered by insurance, but she still has to pay about $10,000 out-of-pocket.
Wound vac removed from arm. Says it really hurts (I'm shocked!). Also says she smells bad despite showering daily.
How can anyone look at these pics and think this is a good idea?? No wonder these Aidens pretty much always have trouble finding romantic partners. Imagine transitioning into a manlet incel...
Why would you do this to yourself???
Just a small update. She got to remove the bandage from her leg (the shallow skin graft site).
"Today was my second post op appointment. They said everything looks fine and is going well. The redness underneath doesn’t concern them..."
It's all going downhill... She's anxious about it, but still determined to keep updating despite the less-than-perfect results.
Hopefully all this trans lunacy will end sooner rather than later...
She's trying not to have a mental breakdown.
Latest update. She had to go back to Dr. Crane to try and fix this disaster. She's back home now and coping pretty hard. "I’m sad that the tip is still splitting but honestly I’m not that bothered by it anymore."
Still in a lot of pain, especially when she pees. She's irritated that commenters are shit-talking Dr. Crane, lol. But who can blame them?
This is some guro brought to life. Their threads are depressing but like, they choose this. It's hard to feel pity.
Yet through it all, all I can think is this thing is literally stitched onto their stomach. It's wayyyy too high up. I hate that the most.
Last picture looks like a giant fucked up thumb.
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Yeah, probably good to keep an eye on this train wreck. Theyre unintentionally doing us all a favor in so meticulously documenting the horrors they've undergone, and I bet they'll continue to do so as their dick unravels along with their mind.
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You know, fatgirls, maybe your whole issue was that you were upset you were fat, not that you were upset you're a woman.Anecdotal but two people in my circle went that route for both hormones & top surgery. Docs in some places require a year of testosterone and even elsewhere, they greatly prefer it. Redditors advise only mentioning 'your specific dysphoria' or claiming to align closer to the binary.
It's getting easier though, they used to strongly encourage/require you lose weight before surgery. These days at least half the posts on r/topsurgery are from chubby-obese TIFs.
The #1 thing any TIF should do is lose weight anyway. Hormones and bulking > hormones and subpar top surgery. Female fat distribution is always a dead giveaway. That said, apparently some insurances (list) now cover contouring & liposuction. Meanwhile a heap of reconstructive surgeries are denied, ex-fatties can't get skin removal covered, etc.
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We don't know what causes gender dysphoria. For every xx-troon pipeline, there are millions of normal(?) degenerates enjoying it without developing dysphoria.
In other words, it is possible for anyone to spontaneously develop troonism. How are you sure you won't troon out and the next rotting crotch posted here is yours?
If your answer is along the lines of "well duh, trooning out is fucking insane and I would have to be really crazy to troon out even if I developed gender dysphoria!" I raise the second question to you: Do you honestly think anyone in the world chooses to be that mentally ill?
Areolae and nipples are not preserved in mastectomies because they are connected directly to lactation ducts and cancer might spread there.
Also higher risk of skin cancer occuring there btw, women who are given UV-B therapy for skin conditions are given pasties to wear over their nipples.
Theoretically, if a TiF was discovered to have cancerous cells, their nipples would be retroactively taken away, but I have not heard of any of these "top surgery" clinics actually sending in biopsy samples to be tested.
So male testicular cancer surgery is a lot like neutering male dogs and cats. You cut a slit at the base of the scrotes under the penile shaft, pop them out, and sew it up.
If the patient REALLY wanted, it can be done with local anaesthesia. Understandably, this option is unpopular.
You can even get silicone implants to keep it looking filled. These implants are allegedly rather irritating and unpopular, and actual male scrotes, even when empty, don't look that bad.
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Yeah, maybe most of the 'chest dysphoria' for these fat women comes from having very large and deformed breasts due to obesity. Honestly if I had breasts like the second fat woman, I would feel pretty miserable too, that's some Kelly Lenza chest. But the first step in bettering that should be losing weight, before any corrective surgery...