So actually I went and checked this guy out, total fucking quack. Along with the typical "facial feminization/facial masculinization", he also does THIS: View attachment 2092013
and just look at the categories he does. The side by side of "genuine reconstruction surgery" and "butchery" is almost fucking nauseating. He even does the most asinine vain shit like "back dimple surgery". I'm surprised he isn't in the SRS bracket yet, he does literally everything else.
and just look at the categories he does. The side by side of "genuine reconstruction surgery" and "butchery" is almost fucking nauseating. He even does the most asinine vain shit like "back dimple surgery". I'm surprised he isn't in the SRS bracket yet, he does literally everything else.
It turns out that Dr. Eppley might be responsible for popularizing rib removal in the first place (although it's obviously still extremely niche). He performed it back in 2015 on a "model" named Pixee Fox - one of those crazies who wants to look like a Barbie doll or cartoon character.
^^ This is supposedly before and after the surgery.
It turns out that Dr. Eppley might be responsible for popularizing rib removal in the first place (although it's obviously still extremely niche). He performed it back in 2015 on a "model" named Pixee Fox - one of those crazies who wants to look like a Barbie doll or cartoon character.
I’ve heard of rib removal, but shoulder narrowing? HOLY FUCK. And they just cut a piece out and stick it together with metal plates and hope it heels somewhat normal? Get ready for agonizing aches whenever it rains. Hope you don’t plan to lift much or live comfortably ever again.
And it’s an ELECTIVE surgery. Just. How do these people choose to do this...
Honestly, I'm not surprised. If there's someone willing to pay to try and have their insecurities fixed there's going to be some shady doctor willing to take that money. Shoulders, hip-waist ratio etc. are obviously huge tell-tale signs. I really wonder how far this will all go until there starts to be serious regulations? Before it was mostly rich eccentrics that got these insane surgeries (see: Jocelyn Wildenstein, those that want to look like Barbie / Ken dolls), so no one really gave a crap. Now insane surgeries are getting mainstreamed via it being done as being "gender reaffirming".
I mean...they might finally 'pass' when they become a corpse from all this shit. having one's skeleton rearranged would accomplish that much, even if it kills you shortly after.
It turns out that Dr. Eppley might be responsible for popularizing rib removal in the first place (although it's obviously still extremely niche). He performed it back in 2015 on a "model" named Pixee Fox - one of those crazies who wants to look like a Barbie doll or cartoon character.
And the troons will all have it paid for by insurance companies because otherwise it's twansphobic. But per usual normal everyday people will be denied surgeries that would give them better quality of life because "cosmetic".
Fuck this shit. When will the pendulum start back the other way?
The downside of this is that the surgeons are going to be butchers like Rumer. All srs surgeons are butchers but even among them there are "bad apples".
And the troons will all have it paid for by insurance companies because otherwise it's twansphobic. But per usual normal everyday people will be denied surgeries that would give them better quality of life because "cosmetic".
Fuck this shit. When will the pendulum start back the other way?
This is exactly the thing. When TRAs talk about trans people being denied health care, they're basically talking about not getting every surgery they want state funded and that's what they're pushing towards. So of course every Mengele with an insane surgery idea which will totally make the guinea pig feel "gender euphoria" will push for their surgery to be considered "gender affirming". If it's such an insane idea that no one else wants to do it, even better because that means they'll get all the cash themselves.
So why not crush up your shoulders and re-connect them with metal plates? It'll totally make you pass, I promise...
Just don't tell them that you can see bone trauma even from super old skeletons. That would probably also prompt dna tests cause wtf and they'd be misgendered forever anyway.
I mean they've found signs of malaria and syphilis in really old skeletons/mummies and bone infections in dinosaur fossils so they'd definitely be able to tell some dude shaved off half his skull and shoulders.
Chunky_picklereally likes to post about her metoidioplasty "dick". She seems kind of obsessed, making lots of posts about doing pumping / manual traction exercises to increase its size, masturbation, standing-to-pee, and more.
Can any of them explain what makes them different from any plastic surgery addict? The ones that want to turn themselves into cats or Ken dolls? Anybody getting a hit of their addiction will feel "euphoria," that means nothing.
Can any of them explain what makes them different from any plastic surgery addict? The ones that want to turn themselves into cats or Ken dolls? Anybody getting a hit of their addiction will feel "euphoria," that means nothing.
The difference is that vocal TRAs have convinced a generation of very vulnerable mentally ill people that they NEED NEED NEED every surgery in the book to be happy. Furthermore doctors are set to make big bucks off of this wave of insecurity so they won’t say no.
Also no pressure of being seen as a mean bigot if you turn down someone for wanting skull horn implants or iris recolouring.
Does anyone with more knowledge on the general body modification scene (including those Barbie/Ken people) know if it’s as predatory as the SRS surgery circles seem to be? I always got the impression they just quietly did their own weird shit without trying to talk everyone else into doing it too, but I could be wrong
Would be interested to know if there’s any overlap in generic dysmorphia/body integrity disorder and the people that opt for the more disabling treatments in this thread.
Since we have MTFs considering fucking with their shoulder bones, have there been any FTMs that have opted for that insane leg-breaking surgery from years back that was meant to make you taller? Hoping the fact I’ve never heard about any is a good sign
The difference is that vocal TRAs have convinced a generation of very vulnerable mentally ill people that they NEED NEED NEED every surgery in the book to be happy. Furthermore doctors are set to make big bucks off of this wave of insecurity so they won’t say no.
Also no pressure of being seen as a mean bigot if you turn down someone for wanting skull horn implants or iris recolouring.
Does anyone with more knowledge on the general body modification scene (including those Barbie/Ken people) know if it’s as predatory as the SRS surgery circles seem to be? I always got the impression they just quietly did their own weird shit without trying to talk everyone else into doing it too, but I could be wrong
Would be interested to know if there’s any overlap in generic dysmorphia/body integrity disorder and the people that opt for the more disabling treatments in this thread.
Since we have MTFs considering fucking with their shoulder bones, have there been any FTMs that have opted for that insane leg-breaking surgery from years back that was meant to make you taller? Hoping the fact I’ve never heard about any is a good sign
Yes and no. People into the extreme modification tend to have overlap with troons in the 'there's something mentally unwell about these people' possibly with the only exception being those who're heavily tattoo'd but even some of them fall into that category. I'm pretty sure there's a troon here with a thread who began in the body mod community. Pauly or something?Yes, right here. Body modification addicts usually have underlying control issues as a result of past trauma. The ones who're way way way over the top- tiger man, lizard lady, lizard guy, insane stretches of various piercing holes, etc. Are outliers that most who're into body modification would never seek to emulate. That vast majority of body mod community is piercings and the like that can be taken out and healed up later if they change their minds.
I wouldn't say there's pressure on the average person who has a few piercings and tattoos to go full ham. Maybe in the smaller circles where they're doing crazy mods to see what'll happen but those are small groups, again outliers, because the average person knows the more metal in your face and ink on your body, the less career prospects you have.
IIRC. A lot of blogs that used to showcase the more extreme mods would usually have active disclaimers on the extremity and the people who went hog wild on sticking shit under their skin or splitting body parts were usually just showing off what they'd done with very little comments enthusiastically telling others to do it. Some stuff was actively cautioned against because of the risk. The early 'test' subjects of some extreme mods would sometimes discover problems later and caution others against it because of those problems- like sclera tattooing.
Does anyone with more knowledge on the general body modification scene (including those Barbie/Ken people) know if it’s as predatory as the SRS surgery circles seem to be? I always got the impression they just quietly did their own weird shit without trying to talk everyone else into doing it too, but I could be wrong
You're right that they don't recruit (probably because they wouldn't be special anymore if everybody got extreme body mods), but the overall community is about as cultish and depraved as troons. The non-doctors are every bit as bad and for the same reasons - things that would be considered major and irreversible by normies like facial tattoos or extremely large stretched/gauged earrings are considered minor, and any concerns about being able to get work outside of low-level jobs are brushed off or viciously attacked. There's even the same attitude that if you want it and it'll boost your self-image, that's what matters and society's in the wrong for not accepting it. This last bit even extends to major modifications that most of us would consider horrifying (see the spoiler). The doctors aren't as bad as SRS butchers but I suspect that has more to do with their bottom line than anything else - there is no public support for this stuff unlike troonery.
There is a site called Body Modification Ezine (BMEzine) which is probably the biggest and most depraved site in the community that you can access without needing a VPN although you will need Jesus. Again, their baseline for "normal" is things we'd consider huge like tattoos and body or genital piercings. From there it goes all the way to shit like voluntary amputation, tooth filing, genital surgery (not SRS and I'm not going to create an account there just to find out what those terms mean). Again, the entire justification is simply "if you think you'll like it, do it".
For doctors, that is more complicated. Specific to "Human Barbie Doll" surgery none of the procedures is illegal but very few surgeons will do it due to the large number of procedures and high likelihood of complications or worse. Most plastic surgery will not last forever and will eventually need updates because areas which have had work done don't age like the rest of one's body.
Other than "Human Barbie Doll" surgery many of these are either illegal to perform, even by a doctor, or not done because all but the most inept or money-hungry doctors realize these ideas are terrible. The few doctors who do these procedures keep it quiet because of the potential for medical board involvement and likelihood that it'd tank the rest of their practice (these freaks are too rare to be a reliable customer base). The names are circulated on body-mod sites but I imagine that would stop if any of the doctors involved got too much publicity over it.
As someone who has had a few piercings over the years, I can confirm this - piercers will generally respect clients' privacy and only ask enough questions/give you enough additional information to pick out a jewelry size and location. I'm not sure any of the ones I went to even knew the extreme body mod community is a thing.
Extreme mods is also a very small and mostly online community, so unless you actively seek them out just getting one or two piercings (even nontraditional ones) isn't going to get you noticed.
Even though I'm not a doctor, goddamn this idiot. Back when corsetting was at its peak women were dying due to organ compression. I'd gauge as the flesh became constricted, your flesh would become lumpy like a deathfat since squeezing it is just going to push it somewhere else in your foot. Multiple bones in your feet will break and then heal incorrectly, leading to malformation and pain from malformation, probably bone spurs as your cartilage deteriorates since your precious "slut pills" probably gave you arthritis, and you'll probably have a couple free floating bone fragments giving you pain from your shattered metatarsals.
And then, after all that, you'll still just look like a hobbit because nothing can hide your man toes.
I actually feel the tiniest glimmer of sympathy for him now, like "shake your head in how stupid he's been" sympathy, because, completely ignoring the "CHRIST MY EYES" disaster inside, externally, he got one of the "better" ones. This should be a wake up call to the other troons, but they've already gouged out their eyes to avoid seeing the painful truth.
There was no "peak" of corsetry with women dying because of compressed organs. There has been and always will be freakish outliers that take things far beyond where they are supposed to. THOSE are the idiots dying because of stupidity. Not hordes of women all vying to have wasp waists. Plus a lot of the photography from that Era employed crude photo shop techniques to make the waists thinner. It's amazing how long the nip and tuck tool has been around.
That being said this idiot wanting to bind his feet is mentally ill. So many of the ppl in this thread are mentally ill, I waffle between feeling horrible for them and saying "buck up buttercup!" To them.
As a woman I've had fleeting thoughts of "I wonder what it feels like to fuck a woman." Mainly because I enjoy sex and am curious about how it feels from the other end. But that doesn't mean I want to become a man. It's like these ppl have fleeting thoughts that their brains sieze upon and twist all around and BAM they want to be the other sex. So weird to me.
There was no "peak" of corsetry with women dying because of compressed organs. There has been and always will be freakish outliers that take things far beyond where they are supposed to. THOSE are the idiots dying because of stupidity. Not hordes of women all vying to have wasp waists. Plus a lot of the photography from that Era employed crude photo shop techniques to make the waists thinner. It's amazing how long the nip and tuck tool has been around.
That being said this idiot wanting to bind his feet is mentally ill. So many of the ppl in this thread are mentally ill, I waffle between feeling horrible for them and saying "buck up buttercup!" To them.
As a woman I've had fleeting thoughts of "I wonder what it feels like to fuck a woman." Mainly because I enjoy sex and am curious about how it feels from the other end. But that doesn't mean I want to become a man. It's like these ppl have fleeting thoughts that their brains sieze upon and twist all around and BAM they want to be the other sex. So weird to me.
Luckily for you, none of them will ever find out how it feels from the other end because even if their fleshsock isn't a coke-can monstrosity and is stiff enough to penetrate a reluctant orifice, it's still just a flesh tube vaguely shaped like a penis with none of the nerves or the sexual sensation of an actual penis. An Aiden will never know the feeling of a vagina (...or a butthole more likely, given the yaoi fantasy said Aidens seem intent on wanting to live out) wrapping around their sensitive penis head because they don't HAVE a glans, they just have a scar at the end of their fleshtube with no tissue differentiation - it's all just stubbly thigh meat.
I know this has been mentioned but omg razor burn in your vagina must be excruciating.
But there's women out there that must support their partner at all costs. It's ok, the pain is worth it for true love. An example being that woman that had to drug herself to go down on her boyfriends stinkditch.