Culture What Do Women Want? For Men to Get Covid Vaccines. - As the Biden administration seeks to get most adults vaccinated by summer, men are holding back.


Holly Elgison and Len Schillaci are a mixed vaxxed couple, and they are far from alone.

“I was always going to get the vaccine, 100 percent,” said Ms. Elgison, a medical claims auditor in Valrico, Fla.

Her husband, a disaster insurance adjuster, said he will pass. “To be honest with you, I think that the worst of Covid is behind us,” Mr. Schillaci said. “I’m good.”

As the Biden administration seeks to get 80 percent of adult Americans immunized by summer, the continuing reluctance of men to get a shot could impede that goal.

Women are getting vaccinated at a far higher rate — about 10 percentage points — than men, even though the male-female divide is roughly even in the nation’s overall population. The trend is worrisome to many, especially as vaccination rates have dipped a bit recently.

The reasons for the U.S. gender gap are many, reflecting the role of women in specific occupations that received early vaccine priority, political and cultural differences and long standing patterns of women embracing preventive care more often generally than men.

The gap exists even as Covid-19 deaths worldwide have been about 2.4 times higher for men than among women. And the division elucidates the reality of women’s disproportionate role in caring for others in American society.

“It could matter to localized herd immunity,” said Alison Buttenheim, an associate professor of nursing at the University of Pennsylvania and expert on vaccine hesitancy. “While most experts are fretting about larger gaps by race, political party, religion and occupational group,” she said, many of which overlap with the gender disparities, “I haven’t heard of any specific initiatives to target men.”

In Los Angeles County, where 44 percent of women over 16 have gotten their first shot — compared with 30 percent of men — officials are scrambling to figure out how to do just that.

“We are very concerned about it and are planning to embark on some targeted outreach among men,” said Dr. Paul Simon, the chief science officer at the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health, who said that the disparities are of particular concern for Black and Latino men. Only 19 percent of Black males in Los Angeles County and 17 percent of Latino males have received at least one dose of the vaccine, compared with 35 percent of Asian men and 32 percent of white men, according to the most recent data available from early this month.

“We don’t fully understand it,” Dr. Simon said. “One of our messaging strategies will be that the vaccine is not only important for you but, in addition, is a means of protecting others in your family.”

The early divisions in vaccine rates by gender could largely be explained by demographics. Americans over 70 got the first sets of doses, and women make up a larger proportion of that age group. In many states, health care workers and schoolteachers were also given vaccine priority: Women account for three-quarters of full-time health care workers and over 75 percent of public schoolteachers in the United States are female.

The disparities show both where women do the paid and unpaid labor of life. For instance, women lost the majority of the earliest jobs in food services, retail businesses, health care and government jobs. The mothers among them have done most of the work in the shift to remote schooling and caring for parents and sick relatives.

The combination may have increased their vaccine motivation in two ways: They are seeking to protect the rest of their family and they are desperate to get back in the work force. Indeed, just as women drove the job losses last year, they are leading the economic recovery now; roughly half a million women joined the labor force in March, in part because in-person schooling has resumed across much of the country.

“In addition to women being disproportionately represented in several essential jobs,” said Pilar Gonalons-Pons, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in gender issues, “they are also disproportionately represented as unpaid caregivers for older adults in their families and communities, and this can also be an additional motivation for getting the vaccine.”

In many ways, the pattern with vaccines reflects longstanding gender differences when it comes to preventive health care. Women are on average more likely to get annual physicals than men, even when adjusted for pre-existing health conditions and other factors, and are more likely than men to get preventive care.

Men are more likely than women to engage in behaviors that hurt their health — like heavy drinking, smoking and illicit drug use — and are more overweight compared to women. Men are less likely to visit doctors regularly and go to the emergency room in a crisis and to get basic dental care, according to federal data. Vaccines are no exception: Historically, influenza vaccination is much higher among females — about 63 percent compared to 53 percent — though the gap narrows in Americans over 75 years old.

The coronavirus vaccine “is the latest expression of the tried-and-true gender gap we’ve long witnessed in preventive health care seeking patterns,” said Lindsey Leininger, a health policy researcher and clinical professor at Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College.

But experts say that even in the context of general male health care recalcitrance, there may be some factors that are specific to this vaccine that are preventing more male shots in arms. Because the sign up has been cumbersome and confusing, men may have had less patience in navigating the system, which has largely taken place online, a process that women might find easier since they tend to get more of their health care information online.

“We have to figure out if disparities are about access, if men are having more difficulty navigating the appointment systems,” Mr. Simon of Los Angeles said.

Further, when it comes to the coronavirus — which has been the subject of rampant misinformation, evolving medical advice and politicization — other dynamics may be at work.

“Some men have a sense that they are not necessarily susceptible,” Mr. Simon said health care workers have told officials. “They have weathered this for more than a year and have a sense of omnipotence.”

Public health and academic experts have been long concerned with the “macho” effect that prevents men from getting all sorts of health care, and fear that it might be exacerbated with this vaccine. (Notably, in the most male service branch of the military, the Marines, about 40 percent of those who were offered the vaccine by the Defense Department have turned it down.)

“This avoidance has been linked to masculinity ideals of men being strong, invincible and not asking for help,” said Kristen W. Springer, an associate professor in the Department of Sociology at Rutgers University in New Jersey who has done research on this trait.

“In other words, these cultural ideals lead men to avoid important health care in order to act masculine,” she said. “Now that the vaccine is available to everyone, it will be interesting to watch male-female differences in vaccine uptake, because these will more likely reflect social and cultural ideas about gender and health, such as the cultural idea that ‘real men’ don’t need preventive health care.”

At this stage, U.S. health authorities have not released data on nonbinary adults and vaccination.

There may also be political connections. Women are far more likely than men to register as Democrats, and polls demonstrate that Republicans across the country have been far less likely than Democrats to embrace the vaccine.

So who will men listen to? Not their wives and female friends or doctors, it seems. For their recent preprint study, Leah Witus and Erik Larson, professors at Macalester College in Saint Paul, Minn., watched videos with men and women that featured identical information about the vaccine. Among the 1,184 Americans who watched them, most were positively influenced by the male narrator while the female narrator got a far more mixed response.

“The male-narrated version of the video increased vaccination intention in viewers,” said Ms. Witus, “but the female-narrated had mixed associations with vaccine propensity, and in some viewers, those that identified as conservative, actually decreased vaccination intention.”

This may spell victory for Mr. Schillaci as he and his wife subtly joust for influence over their 20-year-old son’s vaccination decision. Mr. Schillaci has been sharing his views with his son, whom his wife is prodding to take a shot.

“I would rather he got the shot, and I hope that he’ll consider it,” said Ms. Elgison.

But Ms. Elgison’s own decision may benefit her son, even if he decides against the vaccine.

As often happens in life, men may find their gaps covered by women. “To the extent most people live and socialize in a mixed-gender setting, the men will benefit from the higher coverage among women,” Ms. Buttenheim said.

Ms. Elgison, however, still has a trump card she hopes might work. “I would like my son to get it so we can all travel together,” she said. “I explained to him that it’s possible that we could protect his dad.”

Step up for your shots, kings!
 
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"Come on, get the vaccine! Yeah you'll grow a third eyeball, but all those old people won't die!"
I thought they hated old people because they're all Republicans or some shit. Then again if they all disappeared who would get the blame for failed Democrat policies?

Women are more often pedantic, submissive rule followers who trust and bow to authority, they don't question things independently as easily as men. The only time they tend to "rebel" is when the establishment itself is telling them to (i.e. feminism, BLM, "social justice", etc.). The fact that so few of them even recognize they're being manipulated depresses the fuck out of me.
Remember, in 1984, it is the women who are the most loyal to the Party. Political power increases your sexual options, even if you're a bloodthirsty tyrant lunatic.
 
I saw the term "mixed-weight relationship" screencapped from some reddit sub and it was very current-year but that was before the virus, I see they've kept it up.
All I can think of from that image is that of a soyboy mounting a hambeast, and being unable to figure out where his micropeen goes.
 
I don't want men to take the vaccine. I don't want anyone to take the vaccine! Let your immune system do it's magic...unless you got AIDS then just die.
Two, avoidance is linked to the fact that Pfizer and Moderna are legally not liable for anything that goes wrong with their vaccines until 2024 per the FDA.
Ah shit! I'm glad I'm not taking the vaccine then!
 
Anything to avoid admitting that it's because women are more agreeable and therefore do what authority tells them! These people so desperate to pretend that they're the underdog, even when they hold every institution. Gotta keep exploiting the same Anglo-Saxon cultural quirks over and over again because it's the only trick they know.

Although apparently these fucks are completely ideologically dominant in Latin American academia to the point that it makes American universities look like bastions of the red pill (The entire field of moral psychology in Latin America is just a priori Marxist wankery according to Jonathan Haidt) , so maybe they adapt to whatever culture they infest.
Women are more often pedantic, submissive rule followers who trust and bow to authority, they don't question things independently as easily as men. The only time they tend to "rebel" is when the establishment itself is telling them to (i.e. feminism, BLM, "social justice", etc.). The fact that so few of them even recognize they're being manipulated depresses the fuck out of me.
Women who want this deserve to die alone and be eaten by their 27 cats.
When I get around to dating, one of the first questions I'll ask is what they think about the vaccine and people getting it. If they're 100% for getting it and scold me like a whiny bitch for not being pro-vaxx then I'm 100% for not doing a second date, simple as that. Gotta watch out for the crazy leftie bitches.


The cats are probably vegan... and if they're not, they won't eat that women, she probably tastes like shit or something I bet.
Have sex lol
 
Wait, are they threatening to harm our families if we don't take the vaccine?!

more like they're pandering by trying to get us to feel like big strong family protectors because as per the article they think we're all toxic macho Rocky watching cavemen n shit
 
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Public health and academic experts have been long concerned with the “macho” effect that prevents men from getting all sorts of health care

ahh it's the "macho effect". Certainly it's not that the ever changing "expert opinion" on it (it's just a flu! ok it's more than a flu but dont wear a mask! anyways only the n95 masks work. ok no, you must wear a maks! no, two masks! just wait for the vaccine and it will be over! j/k even vaccinated you still infect others, but vaccines are at least safe! umm ok they are not that safe, but mostly safe! also it seeems they wear off sooner than we had thought, you will probably re-do it yearly. btw it seems our numbers of deaths have been exagerrated whoopsie") makes them look like they don't know what they are doing. And not that politicians prosyletysing about lockdowns, social distancing etc and berating the little people who don't adhere are getting caught left and right not adhering either, like Pelosi getting her hair done, several politicians doing family gatherings etc makes it look even less believable. And then the politicisation of the response policies (the "injecting bleach" shit, the chloroquine shitstorm, the "you can't ban travel from China it's racist" etc, gatherings are bad unless it's to protest racism then it's good, actually covid cases decreased ruing the protests! but only the ones agains racism) makes it look like people in charge really care more about their little political games, and scoring points against their opponents rather than coming up with effective policies. And then stupid shit like politicians wearing masks during zoom interviews, musicians wearing masks with slits in them so they can play trumpets, astronauts in masks when in fucking space makes it all look beyond ridiculous
compound all those factors reducing confidence in people in charge and their policies with with the fact that for majority of people the wuflu has very low mortality rate, and you get why there are people who decide to skip the jab

Also you would think that men not signing up for the shots means there's more doses available for women so they should be happy and not kvetching about that
 
Imagine wanting more men to get the vaccine and deciding your best strategy is to tell them they should do it because women want them to.

What kind of recently arrived literal aliens who have never met a human male came up with this idea. Men don’t want to obey women and they do not want to *emulate* women. There is nothing about this messaging that works. Every single male who would want to do something just to obey a woman or to emulate us already got the vaccine lol.
 
I like how these types of articles try to paint [insert demographic] as [insert flaw] as if they surveyed the whole demographic. As if there are no anti-vaccine women.
Guilt tripping: the article.
 
Imagine wanting more men to get the vaccine and deciding your best strategy is to tell them they should do it because women want them to.

What kind of recently arrived literal aliens who have never met a human male came up with this idea. Men don’t want to obey women and they do not want to *emulate* women. There is nothing about this messaging that works. Every single male who would want to do something just to obey a woman or to emulate us already got the vaccine lol.

Ngl, men might not want to obey women, but there is a subsection of men that will do anything to be in the good graces of wahmen. Of course, they're already vaccinated, so it's kinda true that it is flawed messaging.
 
Ngl, men might not want to obey women, but there is a subsection of men that will do anything to be in the good graces of wahmen. Of course, they're already vaccinated, so it's kinda true that it is flawed messaging.

Exactly, any man who is sitting around waiting to be told what would please a woman so he can figure out what the hell he wants to do with his own life and body has already obeyed his Karen. So if anything, they should be looking for anti-vax wives and frightened pro-vax husbands who are so downtrodden they’re choosing to not do what they want to do.
 
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