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That's so bazaar looking. She does not look that fat but has a huge fat neck.
Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights
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By God I can't stand seeing retarded children. Legitimately horrifying. Maybe her mind just broke after she realized that she shat out a fucking bizarre brain dead creature. Then again she seems like she was always a wacko.
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Gotta love Robyn’s priorities, making a video of herself performing “magik” before her daughter goes into scientific state of the art surgery. I can’t imagine setting up a camera while you are spending possibly the last moments with your daughter to make content for the gram. Disgusting. She is peak narc.
I want to know why is all this medical intervention, therapists and equipment are necessary for Luna when Robyn has dozens of crystals, organic gluten free breast milk and her hands!
Retarded would be an improvement for Luna. Retarded people at least have brains, even if they are damaged. Luna has cysts instead of brain matter thanks to Mom.
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Seeing this psycho raise her kids has made me fearful I might inadvertently fuck up my own kids somehow (albeit on a much smaller scale). Because it's a personality disorder she probably doesn't even realize she's doing what she's doing. Seeing how much work it is to care for young ones (especially infants) and how careful you have to be because they are so fragile makes me even more afraid to have children. What if you drop them? I remember a picture of Robyn breastfeeding in the store earlier in the thread and she was awkwardly holding Luna with one arm...just seems like an accident waiting to happen.
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In the video where she is holding the paintbrush — she does what seems to be a wincing in pain movement or something?? Do we know what this is? I’ve seen her do this in other videos lately also.
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Luna’s head is larger than her mother’s head. Let that sink in,
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It's possible thats exactly what it is the mother decided right after shunt went in that all pain was resolved and kept away with woo.
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The thing that disgusts me the most about Robyn is she absolutely knows her insistence on a home birth, putting the “achievement” of a home birth above her daughter’s life. A lot of idiots do this and things turn out okay, but there are many stories similar to Luna’s or the babies are stillborn.
Robyn could do a lot of good, and probably get a lot of media attention, if she used what happened to Luna to encourage home birth mothers to go to the hospital if complications occur or labor stalls. Robyn was of the “home birth at all costs” mindset and refusing to go to the hospital was a decision to be encouraged and praised which is so dangerous.
She doesn’t even have to criticize home birth, just encourage mothers to go to the hospital if things start going wrong or labor stalls. It could probably save a lot of lives because Robyn is the type of woo-mom that other woo believing women of similar mindset would listen too and Luna is an unforgettable visual as to why it’s so important.
Sadly, Robyn will never do this and that’s why she’s a lolcow. She won’t ever admit her insistence on homebirth caused this travesty. She doubled down on all the woo shit and had another homebirth. She has tried to build some sort of career on all this woo BS so saying anything honest about home birth dangers, and what happened to her daughter, would hurt her ability to sell her BS to other idiots.
Robyn could do a lot of good, and probably get a lot of media attention, if she used what happened to Luna to encourage home birth mothers to go to the hospital if complications occur or labor stalls. Robyn was of the “home birth at all costs” mindset and refusing to go to the hospital was a decision to be encouraged and praised which is so dangerous.
She doesn’t even have to criticize home birth, just encourage mothers to go to the hospital if things start going wrong or labor stalls. It could probably save a lot of lives because Robyn is the type of woo-mom that other woo believing women of similar mindset would listen too and Luna is an unforgettable visual as to why it’s so important.
Sadly, Robyn will never do this and that’s why she’s a lolcow. She won’t ever admit her insistence on homebirth caused this travesty. She doubled down on all the woo shit and had another homebirth. She has tried to build some sort of career on all this woo BS so saying anything honest about home birth dangers, and what happened to her daughter, would hurt her ability to sell her BS to other idiots.
I’m not a lawyer, but could what she did (or the home birth assistants from Instagram) be criminally charged with any kind of medical negligence? I know you have a certain amount of autonomy to fuck up your kids, but this is so far and beyond what anyone would consider to be okay. No one can look at this baby and think reiki is doing fuck all for her. You’re totally right though— she could have had a great platform to educate people about the risks with home birth but she’s just insane.
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The dingbats she used weren’t any type of professionals or licensed in any way so it would be akin to criminally charging the idiot you asked to hold your beer while you did something epically stupid.
If a doctor fucked up this bad he might be charged (plus civil suit) but her midwife was akin to taking medical advice from any random idiot off the street (though even random idiots would think it’s insane to not go to a hospital). It’s why the whole home birth industry is filled with sketchy and shady shit, when things go tits up it’s the mother, baby and American govt that pays the price.
Robyn’s all natural bargain homebirth saved her money but has cost a million plus in Medicaid funds at this point.
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I know they were just random women, so there’s kind of no point. Why she would even trust them to take care of this says all you need to know. You don’t hire a random person off the street to plan your wedding. Robin’s actions after the birth— namely her lack of neurological care make me wonder if she would have any legal repercussions.
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Because she has no trust in doctors and beleives that they are not knowledgable. She purposely seeks out people on instagram for her needs and trusts them more.
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This thing looks like what would come out of a broken Daemonculaba from 40k.
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I can't believing I'm comparing Gwen Hartley favorably to someone, but at least Lola and Claire's conditions weren't the result of negligence. Sure, she chose to have Lola knowing she was likely to be a tater, but Lola didn't start off as a normal baby who became disabled because of Gwen. Being the direct cause of her own kid's profound disability is an honor that goes specifically to Robyn. That said, Gwen and Robin are twins in practically every other way, though Robyn thankfully doesn't share Gwen's obsession with poop. Between the using their kids for gibs, the hatred of doctors, and their affinity for the word "sassy," they're two of a kind. Honestly a saga where Gwen and Robyn find and befriend each other because of Kiwifarms would be fucking amazing.
Going back to the original discussion about the labor, it's incredible that Robyn didn't sustain any tears or prolapses (that we know of.) From what I can tell, she started pushing too early and pushed for too long, which is normally a recipe for prolapse. In a just world, Robyn would have been grievously injured, not poor hapless Luna.
It's worth mentioning as well that complications from home births are much more common in the U.S. than they are in other first world countries because of our really lax qualification laws for midwives. Before 2012, you didn't even need a high school diploma to become a certified midwife. In other countries, midwives actually have to go to medical school and are legally required to transfer the patient to a hospital if there are complications. Additionally, high-risk patients aren't allowed to request home birth accomodations.
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Waiting for Robyn to finish her insanely long series of posts on Reiki to write up on and ran across this:
It's an interview with her being "sold" by a site for homework assignments.
It's an interview with her being "sold" by a site for homework assignments.
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In the most recent video that was posted, Luna has some worsening issues I noticed. Not only does she genuinely look to be in pain or, at the very least, completely physically exhausted when sitting up to the point that it's horrifyingly apparent, but her head looks different.
It could be down to angles and lighting but I'm not convinced of that, honestly. That dimple in her skull not only looks longer going vertically up her head, but it actually looks deeper. The deformation of the left side of her skull (right side from our perspective) also looks more "ballooned" out and much more misshapen to me personally.
Rate me optimistic, but with noticing what I think are changes, I get a gut feeling that she may start going downhill very fast soon. Who knows, I'm sure we are all hoping for mercy for her or at the very least hope she goes quick, but that last video really stood out to me as more concerning than usual.
It could be down to angles and lighting but I'm not convinced of that, honestly. That dimple in her skull not only looks longer going vertically up her head, but it actually looks deeper. The deformation of the left side of her skull (right side from our perspective) also looks more "ballooned" out and much more misshapen to me personally.
Rate me optimistic, but with noticing what I think are changes, I get a gut feeling that she may start going downhill very fast soon. Who knows, I'm sure we are all hoping for mercy for her or at the very least hope she goes quick, but that last video really stood out to me as more concerning than usual.
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Isint she very close to the oldest age of someone with her disease to live?
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Fast forward to four years later and I would’ve never imagined but my own child would be a hospice patient and I would be searching for some type of modalities to help her and my family get through this stage of life. It was two weeks after we got Luna’s fatal diagnoses; two weeks we sat with and waited for Luna to die; Two weeks of hoping that hospice would take us on as a charity case (we didn’t have insurance at the time) and two weeks of being utterly alone with our dying baby as we never ended up getting hospice in Indy and we’re really left to be figure out Luna’s dying journey all on our own. We were in such shock. But as those two weeks went by and we realized we were going to be on our own, hospice would not be coming and as Luna’s seizures became more and more controlled; it seemed that death was further and further away, We started searching for healing modalities, practitioners, and healers of all kinds who wouldn’t give up on Luna so easily (as conventional medicine had) and see her for the living child she still is. That’s when I remembered Reiki... and shortly after that, we found Lyn.
I knew immediately that Lyn would be an angel for us in this journey with Luna. I could feel her energy so strongly through her website, I knew she’d end up being the right match for our family Reiki master. I text her and we made arrangements to go and meet her and discuss Reiki and all she could do for our family. Secretly, I was hoping it was something we could do as a family and not just for Luna, because truly, Glenn and I needed the lift and healing in our hearts and souls just as much as Luna needed it. Lyn was so intuitive herself, that she already knew that I would be asking this and that we needed help as a family, and not as single units. We spent a couple of hours getting to know Lyn and learning about Reiki and how it could help us on our journey with Luna and how it could help Luna herself. After our first meeting we scheduled our first session with her just the next day. I must say it was so refreshing to meet somebody like that, living in Indiana, where it felt like people like Glenn and I are far and few between. With Lyn, it felt like we were at home, with our people, with someone who understood us and how we look at the universe.
So from that session forward we went in for weekly family sessions (they lasted anywhere from 1.5 hours to 3 hours a session) until we moved away from Indy. You know, I’m not sure that Lyn fully understands how much she means to us and how grateful that we are for her to have come into our lives when she did and for her to have helped us in the ways that she did. We will forever be grateful to you Lyn.
The healing and growth that both Glenn and I received in our Reiki sessions with Lyn are almost indescribable. At times, we would both get into such deep meditations and have such profound revelations and knowing’s, and healing, and connections with Luna’s higher self and others who watch over and guide us, that it almost fell unreal. Going to our sessions with Lyn kept us lifted through all the tragedy we were experiencing. It helped us to stay grounded in the moment; it helped us to understand the bigger picture and that we are all so connected energetically, vibrationally, and spiritually. It helped us understand that even if we lose Luna physically we will never lose her fully. It was during our family Reiki sessions with Lyn that I’ve had some of the most profound connections and knowing’s with Luna and those who guide and watch over us.
When we moved back to Las Vegas we met with a handful of Reiki practitioners and while they were all kind and wonderful, no one compared to Lyn and the connection we had with her. Despite that, Luna was getting sicker and sicker and it was getting harder and harder to bring her out and about. Reiki practitioner’s that come to the home we’re charging $75-$100 an hour per person and here we are a family of three. It was just not financially feasible any longer. I also noticed, when we move to Las Vegas, that Reiki sessions here don’t always include the intuitive reading side, crystal healing, or sound healing of what we had experienced with Lyn and grown to know Reiki as. For us, Reiki isn’t Reiki without the magical, intuitive side of it.
I knew this was a sign from the universe that it was time for me to become a Reiki practitioner myself.
In 2019 I became a level II Usui Reiki practitioner. We were honored enough to have a local Reiki master, Sheila, come to the house and attune and teach Glenn and I level I and myself to level II as well. Luna was present and so she too is attuned to the healing energy of Reiki. Sheila is a kind, patient, mothering soul and I am so grateful that she was willing to bring these teachings to me as it is several days of 6-8 hours of learning and without me being able to leave Luna for that amount of time, I worried it would be impossible for me to learn at this point in life. But Sheila made sure I didn't miss out on learning this healing energy modality. Then in 2020 I received my Reiki mastership training and am working on completing my Reiki master teacher certification by the end of the year so that I can begin teaching others this amazing, healing tool!
Reiki came in and almost saved our lives in so many ways, and I feel honored to be a Reiki practitioner now. I hope, in the future, I might be able to help another family who’s going through similar tragedies as we are, that I might help them feel like life can still go on during the deep sadness that comes with having a terminal ill child; that there’s a purpose and a plan to all that we suffer through and to know as long as they’re open to it, they’ll NEVER lose their connection with their child.
As a Reiki master practitioner, I use this energy medicine daily in so many different ways. I use Reiki on Luna and myself daily and on Glenn and Marley when they’ll allow me lol. I use it on the donated breastmilk (and on my own when I was breastfeeding Luna), through my feet to our dog Marley (who likes to lay at my feet to get his reiki sessions in), to help my husband balance, open, and align his chakras, on my daughter luna to ease her pain, bring her comfort and peace and knowing. I also use reiki energy to help cleanse the house and my crystals. I use it to strengthen the depth and intensity of my meditations. I send it distantly to loved ones and friends when they're in need.
I knew immediately that Lyn would be an angel for us in this journey with Luna. I could feel her energy so strongly through her website, I knew she’d end up being the right match for our family Reiki master. I text her and we made arrangements to go and meet her and discuss Reiki and all she could do for our family. Secretly, I was hoping it was something we could do as a family and not just for Luna, because truly, Glenn and I needed the lift and healing in our hearts and souls just as much as Luna needed it. Lyn was so intuitive herself, that she already knew that I would be asking this and that we needed help as a family, and not as single units. We spent a couple of hours getting to know Lyn and learning about Reiki and how it could help us on our journey with Luna and how it could help Luna herself. After our first meeting we scheduled our first session with her just the next day. I must say it was so refreshing to meet somebody like that, living in Indiana, where it felt like people like Glenn and I are far and few between. With Lyn, it felt like we were at home, with our people, with someone who understood us and how we look at the universe.
So from that session forward we went in for weekly family sessions (they lasted anywhere from 1.5 hours to 3 hours a session) until we moved away from Indy. You know, I’m not sure that Lyn fully understands how much she means to us and how grateful that we are for her to have come into our lives when she did and for her to have helped us in the ways that she did. We will forever be grateful to you Lyn.
The healing and growth that both Glenn and I received in our Reiki sessions with Lyn are almost indescribable. At times, we would both get into such deep meditations and have such profound revelations and knowing’s, and healing, and connections with Luna’s higher self and others who watch over and guide us, that it almost fell unreal. Going to our sessions with Lyn kept us lifted through all the tragedy we were experiencing. It helped us to stay grounded in the moment; it helped us to understand the bigger picture and that we are all so connected energetically, vibrationally, and spiritually. It helped us understand that even if we lose Luna physically we will never lose her fully. It was during our family Reiki sessions with Lyn that I’ve had some of the most profound connections and knowing’s with Luna and those who guide and watch over us.
When we moved back to Las Vegas we met with a handful of Reiki practitioners and while they were all kind and wonderful, no one compared to Lyn and the connection we had with her. Despite that, Luna was getting sicker and sicker and it was getting harder and harder to bring her out and about. Reiki practitioner’s that come to the home we’re charging $75-$100 an hour per person and here we are a family of three. It was just not financially feasible any longer. I also noticed, when we move to Las Vegas, that Reiki sessions here don’t always include the intuitive reading side, crystal healing, or sound healing of what we had experienced with Lyn and grown to know Reiki as. For us, Reiki isn’t Reiki without the magical, intuitive side of it.
I knew this was a sign from the universe that it was time for me to become a Reiki practitioner myself.
In 2019 I became a level II Usui Reiki practitioner. We were honored enough to have a local Reiki master, Sheila, come to the house and attune and teach Glenn and I level I and myself to level II as well. Luna was present and so she too is attuned to the healing energy of Reiki. Sheila is a kind, patient, mothering soul and I am so grateful that she was willing to bring these teachings to me as it is several days of 6-8 hours of learning and without me being able to leave Luna for that amount of time, I worried it would be impossible for me to learn at this point in life. But Sheila made sure I didn't miss out on learning this healing energy modality. Then in 2020 I received my Reiki mastership training and am working on completing my Reiki master teacher certification by the end of the year so that I can begin teaching others this amazing, healing tool!
Reiki came in and almost saved our lives in so many ways, and I feel honored to be a Reiki practitioner now. I hope, in the future, I might be able to help another family who’s going through similar tragedies as we are, that I might help them feel like life can still go on during the deep sadness that comes with having a terminal ill child; that there’s a purpose and a plan to all that we suffer through and to know as long as they’re open to it, they’ll NEVER lose their connection with their child.
As a Reiki master practitioner, I use this energy medicine daily in so many different ways. I use Reiki on Luna and myself daily and on Glenn and Marley when they’ll allow me lol. I use it on the donated breastmilk (and on my own when I was breastfeeding Luna), through my feet to our dog Marley (who likes to lay at my feet to get his reiki sessions in), to help my husband balance, open, and align his chakras, on my daughter luna to ease her pain, bring her comfort and peace and knowing. I also use reiki energy to help cleanse the house and my crystals. I use it to strengthen the depth and intensity of my meditations. I send it distantly to loved ones and friends when they're in need.
Reiki its more important then medical health and totally helped Luna's birth. You can only learn Reiki by paying someone else...its a "sacred gift" to pay her hundreds of dollars to learn it!
For only $65 dollars an hour she will totally not scam you of money!
Distant reiki sessions are typically an hour long and are done from the comfort of your own home while connecting over video chat. In my experience practicing reiki, I find distant reiki sessions to be just as, if not more, powerful than in person sessions. So don't worry, you'll still reap all the benefits of reiki even from a distance.
First, we talk about past reiki/energy work experience (if its a first time session with me) and I explain what you might experience and what you can expect in your reiki session.
I intuitevly chose specific crystals to help bring in the vibrational frequency I want to include in your healing, for you specific needs. And often times, my daughter Luna helps me with sessions, as she's attuned to level II reiki as well!
Then, I have you get cozy in a laying position at home. Followed by an interactive chakra balancing and activation session (which allows reiki energy to flow more powerfully). Next, I bring you through a guided meditation to ground and connect you, which allows you deeply relax, to be open to connecting with your team of light and experience deeper spiritual experiences.
I then leave you in this meditative state while I begin the rekindle portion of the session. After wards, I bring you out of this meditative state, back to awareness. We discuss anything that came up on my end during the session and then you share your experiences. I help guide you in things you can continue to do on your own to keep you energy more balanced.
First, we talk about past reiki/energy work experience (if its a first time session with me) and I explain what you might experience and what you can expect in your reiki session.
I intuitevly chose specific crystals to help bring in the vibrational frequency I want to include in your healing, for you specific needs. And often times, my daughter Luna helps me with sessions, as she's attuned to level II reiki as well!
Then, I have you get cozy in a laying position at home. Followed by an interactive chakra balancing and activation session (which allows reiki energy to flow more powerfully). Next, I bring you through a guided meditation to ground and connect you, which allows you deeply relax, to be open to connecting with your team of light and experience deeper spiritual experiences.
I then leave you in this meditative state while I begin the rekindle portion of the session. After wards, I bring you out of this meditative state, back to awareness. We discuss anything that came up on my end during the session and then you share your experiences. I help guide you in things you can continue to do on your own to keep you energy more balanced.
Let's scam the parents of disabled children too!
Totally real guys totally got so much education you gotta pay me to learn! Luna is a reiki master because she accepted the gift of attunement. Soon Atlas will be attuned too!
Daily sessions at $65 an hour can you just imagine the amount of money shes scammed? Come see me your first master may have been wrong! Even more expensive course incoming for you thralls!
Can't tell you how to know whos unqualified because we ALL ARE...
If you google a term on pubmed and don't open any articles they all must be positive! (These alternative therapies can help in a placebo effect only tearing into this because she beleives that they should be used INSTEAD of regular therapies)
Article 1 : Meta-Analysis of only 4 articles. Two articles were insignificant, Two stated significance. Neither's results are presented with p values and they report in abstract all 4 were significant.
Article 2 : "Due to the small number of studies in palliative care, we were unable to clearly identify the benefits of Reiki therapy."
Article 3 : "Baldwin and Schwartz investigated whether application of Reiki could reduce the deleterious effects of noise-induced stress in rats. " "The author wishes to acknowledge the guidance and wisdom of his Reiki masters, Elizabeth and Robert Thuan, who are dedicated top rofessionalizing the practice of Reiki. The author is grateful for the support of fellow members of the committee of management of the Australasian Usui Reiki Association, who are dedicated to letting the love of Reiki shine in the world."
Article 4 :"There is insufficient evidence to say whether or not Reiki is useful for people over 16 years of age with anxiety or depression or both."
Article 5 : Paywalled its ABSTRACT. Put out by the Reiki Share Project.
Article 6 : Paywalled its ABSTRACT. Put out by the Reiki Share Project. Was able to get article pretty much the author ends it with no data and just says I have done reiki for 25 years so you all should to.
Article 7 : The in-depth literature review was on twelve articles. To put this in perspective for my dissertation I was required to find 150 to 200 articles to do an indepth literature review of to even be allowed to study a phenomenon.
Article 8 : Interesting read actually had data, but at end they had to admit: "These results are highly preliminary and should be interpreted as such. More research needs to be conducted to confirm or refute these findings. Therefore, the results from this study will be used to conduct a future multisite trial using a control group."
Article 9 : "Subject numbers were limited due to the difficulty of meeting with the patients and obtaining informed consent. Due to the nature of Reiki therapy, the study was not blinded. Music played during Reiki therapy could have contributed to the effect experienced by the patients. Not all questionnaires were collected before patient discharge."
Article 10 : This one was positive but once again admits that the data suggests things and is not confirmed. "Findings suggest Reiki provides symptom relief for individuals receiving hemodialysis, and randomized clinical trials to establish Reiki’s pain benefits in this population are warranted."
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What a load of bollocks. She “finished nursing school” and took a job as a nanny? No. People get nursing degrees because their are immediate, lucrative jobs available upon graduation. It makes as much sense as some claiming they just got an engineering degree and then took a cashier job at McDonalds.
She has zero qualifications or real degrees, she’s a diploma mill and woo-certificate bullshit artist.
Reading about that “Love has Won” cult I realized Robyn would have fit in pretty well with those type of nutters. Only she would have to be Gaia, not some other crazy lady,