Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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She also posted more photos of the upper body:
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No grafted nipples, still has the same sensation from pre op, and it was 25 years ago?
I'm a little impressed that her surgery went so well. Other ftms get their nipples falling off and lose sensation nowadays. I'm even more impressed by how post op results have gotten worse over time. Surgeons are real careless, huh?
 
No grafted nipples, still has the same sensation from pre op, and it was 25 years ago?
I'm a little impressed that her surgery went so well. Other ftms get their nipples falling off and lose sensation nowadays. I'm even more impressed by how post op results have gotten worse over time. Surgeons are real careless, huh?
It’s the age-old anime trope of the prototype being better than the production model.

Though in this case, it might be attributable to the procedures from 25 years ago being the pioneers in the field, from doctors who likely genuinely thought they were helping these people, before trooning out became a trend. Maybe they genuinely tried their hardest to make their manholes look like female genitals. Whereas nowadays, you have hack doctors whose primary objective is to optimize the procedures as much as possible at the cost of... well, just about everything else, so that they can do more surgeries, quality and care be dammed.

Many of the Reddit trannies in this thread have reported their surgeons spending way less time on the procedure than advertised, and the results often speak for themselves, where it’s clear they didn’t put in the bare minimum of effort to create something even vaguely resembling a vagina.
 
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Well, get your rainbows ready folks – Few_Huckleberry8076 posted a video recently with the caption: "NSFW Peeing with phallo. I was asked for this video. I pee from my balls due to complications. Not all have this issue. I will not have future surgery to correct. Happy with what I have."

Some answers to questions you might have had:
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IDK about you, but given it's been over 20 years since she had the surgeries I'd say it is unlikely she will change her mind now and get cut up again – especially given those statements. And we got to see her pee from the balls! I bet you deviants are excited about that just as I am.


She also posted more photos of the upper body:
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Part 1, Part 2 for those who might have missed those.
I’m going to give this entire situation a 9 out of 10. If more srs were like this guy’s, so many more things would be better about it all. Who cares if he pees from his balls? That was probably a wise move in light of all of the other situations we’ve seen. His penis doesn’t look like pipe insulation. His chest looks fairly regular. He can pee, poop, and have pleasurable sex. While I’m generally not a fan of Srs, this is about best case scenario? I just hope he doesn’t give others hope theirs will turn out like his. I mean I’m not a penis expert, but I give the whole she bang a passing grade and also approve of no further cutting!
How is this situation so good when many are not?
 
I’m going to give this entire situation a 9 out of 10. If more srs were like this guy’s, so many more things would be better about it all. Who cares if he pees from his balls? That was probably a wise move in light of all of the other situations we’ve seen. His penis doesn’t look like pipe insulation. His chest looks fairly regular. He can pee, poop, and have pleasurable sex. While I’m generally not a fan of Srs, this is about best case scenario? I just hope he doesn’t give others hope theirs will turn out like his. I mean I’m not a penis expert, but I give the whole she bang a passing grade and also approve of no further cutting!
How is this situation so good when many are not?
Again, 25 years ago. If you were a tranny back then you probably weren't doing it to be cool, and you actually had to go through a bunch of checks and certifications just so you could get the surgery at all. Plus, it's been 25 years and she doesn't seem to regret it and hasn't 41%'d, so it's pretty likely she's an actual transgender and not a pronoun-of-the-week trender in way over xir heads.

In short, back then the standards (both for doctors AND patients) were presumably higher, instead of the veritable wild west it is today where troon butchers are more than happy to use them as experiments as long as they can silence them and cover it up later.
 
Ok. I have got some question. Would it be more medically better for a regretting/detranser TiM who has already got their cock and balls chopped off and amhole installed - to had the hole cleaned and sewn shut in some way that would make them resembles nullo? Would that prevent infection and the need to dilate? Would it work that way?
 
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Ok. I have got some question. Would it be more medically better for a regretting/detranser TiM who has already got their cock and balls chopped off and amhole installed - to had the hole cleaned and sewn shut in some way that would make them resembles nullo? Would that prevent infection and the need to dilate? Would it work that way?
I would imagine that it would depend on how long they had had surgery and how healing went. If an amhole grows up, (don’t quote me on this, a lot of it is conjecture from anatomy classes and having piercings) it more than likely becomes an infinitesimally small tunnel like beyond the knot in a bellybutton or a grown up ear piercing. The dilation is to keep the depth wider, but the skin is back to being skin.
If that’s the case, infection shouldn’t be an issue. They could let it close and just keep whatever mangled approximation of a clitoris they had carved from their glans left to like... rub against stuff?
Then back on the train for a phallo!
 
Elijahhughes presents Stage 2 delayed abdominal flap phalloplasty (intermediate stage). Phallus to be rearranged in two other stages to be in the correct position. made by Dr. Cetrulo, Curtis.

I was so preoccupied with the pickled strawberry that it took me a few seconds to see the interesting thing that is going on.
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The dick is comming from the side of her body! I am so curious how that looks like from the underside (she posted just this single and tiny photo). I get that this is a work in progress but I can't imagine living like this for however many months until they can proceed to next stage.


On to the next one:

donut11 presents Fishmouth incision chest masculinization at 7 and a half months since the surgery. made by Dr. Hop, Amie.

What fascinates me about this one is that they seem to have made the breasts look more femine on her than they looked before. Wonder how much the appearance can be changed by working out or, putting more wight on. But at this point I think she might have been better off with unnaturally flat chest like the whales get.
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"I asked to leave some tissue behind, in order to resonate with a more "nonbinary" body image. I plan on strength training to help get more in touch with my body as well as build my chest a bit. Because there's still mild swelling, I think that there is still tissue metabolizing away. I'll try to update again within the next 6 months or so."

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What her tits looked like before:
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Elijahhughes presents Stage 2 delayed abdominal flap phalloplasty (intermediate stage). Phallus to be rearranged in two other stages to be in the correct position. made by Dr. Cetrulo, Curtis.

I was so preoccupied with the pickled strawberry that it took me a few seconds to see the interesting thing that is going on.
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The dick is comming from the side of her body! I am so curious how that looks like from the underside (she posted just this single and tiny photo). I get that this is a work in progress but I can't imagine living like this for however many months until they can proceed to next stage.


On to the next one:

donut11 presents Fishmouth incision chest masculinization at 7 and a half months since the surgery. made by Dr. Hop, Amie.

What fascinates me about this one is that they seem to have made the breasts look more femine on her than they looked before. Wonder how much the appearance can be changed by working out or, putting more wight on. But at this point I think she might have been better off with unnaturally flat chest like the whales get.
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"I asked to leave some tissue behind, in order to resonate with a more "nonbinary" body image. I plan on strength training to help get more in touch with my body as well as build my chest a bit. Because there's still mild swelling, I think that there is still tissue metabolizing away. I'll try to update again within the next 6 months or so."

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What her tits looked like before:
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Paint it silver and there you have a Borg implant right there
 
I was so preoccupied with the pickled strawberry that it took me a few seconds to see the interesting thing that is going on.
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The dick is comming from the side of her body! I am so curious how that looks like from the underside (she posted just this single and tiny photo). I get that this is a work in progress but I can't imagine living like this for however many months until they can proceed to next stage.
I've never laughed so hard at a dick. Her dick looks like it got rotated 90 degrees, was she perpendicular to the OR table and no one noticed? Bwahahahahahahaha this shit is too funny.
 
I've never laughed so hard at a dick. Her dick looks like it got rotated 90 degrees, was she perpendicular to the OR table and no one noticed? Bwahahahahahahaha this shit is too funny.
Also.. is it going to like.. stay that big?? Even when it's moved to the 'proper' position?? I mean.. I get wanting a big dick, but come ON. That things already going to look abnormal as fuck, making it a monster dong surely won't help anything right? :story:
 
I've never laughed so hard at a dick. Her dick looks like it got rotated 90 degrees, was she perpendicular to the OR table and no one noticed? Bwahahahahahahaha this shit is too funny.

I think it was a bet between the surgeon and the staff for a bottle of Mouton Rothschild that the surgeon would dare to attach it under 90 degrees. Another Mouton is in the works if the surgeon will reject her complaints with "It's supposed to be this way".
 
Elijahhughes presents Stage 2 delayed abdominal flap phalloplasty (intermediate stage). Phallus to be rearranged in two other stages to be in the correct position. made by Dr. Cetrulo, Curtis.

I was so preoccupied with the pickled strawberry that it took me a few seconds to see the interesting thing that is going on.
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The dick is comming from the side of her body! I am so curious how that looks like from the underside (she posted just this single and tiny photo). I get that this is a work in progress but I can't imagine living like this for however many months until they can proceed to next stage.


On to the next one:

donut11 presents Fishmouth incision chest masculinization at 7 and a half months since the surgery. made by Dr. Hop, Amie.

What fascinates me about this one is that they seem to have made the breasts look more femine on her than they looked before. Wonder how much the appearance can be changed by working out or, putting more wight on. But at this point I think she might have been better off with unnaturally flat chest like the whales get.
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"I asked to leave some tissue behind, in order to resonate with a more "nonbinary" body image. I plan on strength training to help get more in touch with my body as well as build my chest a bit. Because there's still mild swelling, I think that there is still tissue metabolizing away. I'll try to update again within the next 6 months or so."

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What her tits looked like before:
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Why did they have to have big, lumpy scars right across the middle? Women get normal breast reductions all the time that look much better than that, they usually do it so the scar from the main incision sits in the crease and then another one coming up from that to the nipple. Just another example of gender surgeons being butchers who don't care about the results.
 
Look at the text under the picture, It says they're happy with 6 inches of depth because the dilator hits their tailbone. their tailbone!? It seems like the frontholes actually go from front to back instead of straight up. You can see it pretty clearly in the first pic below. The second pic was too great a horrorshow not to include, sorry,
Vaginas are not exactly straight up either. It's more like at a 45-degree angle, and a lot of women have a slight curve to the vaginal canal.

I am hoping he means something like this; this shows how to put in a menstrual cup, and the instructions usually tell you to angle it toward the tailbone, more horizontal than vertical, so it will suction in correctly.

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He does not have a cervix that leads to the uterus, so the neovag is just continuing at that 45-degree angle until it hits something. And since they have to make the hole where the dick was, it's naturally going to be higher/more horizontal than a real vagina would be anyway. The alignment IS going to hit the tailbone or feel like it is.
 
Vaginas are not exactly straight up either. It's more like at a 45-degree angle, and a lot of women have a slight curve to the vaginal canal.

I am hoping he means something like this; this shows how to put in a menstrual cup, and the instructions usually tell you to angle it toward the tailbone, more horizontal than vertical, so it will suction in correctly.

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He does not have a cervix that leads to the uterus, so the neovag is just continuing at that 45-degree angle until it hits something. And since they have to make the hole where the dick was, it's naturally going to be higher/more horizontal than a real vagina would be anyway. The alignment IS going to hit the tailbone or feel like it is.
Even in the illustration provided, the colon is directly in the way of anything reaching the tailbone. A vagina is supposed to be a flexible tube that can change shape. There is a definite J shape to the vagina, and that's ok because it isn't rigid. It has to bend somewhat to reach between the exterior opening and the cervix. When babies are born vaginally they have to do a sort of turn to get shoulders out after the head emerges due to the "bend", most of the time it is fine. The vagina and all female reproductive organs are kept in place by a series of ligaments that allow for a degree of movement. It also isn't naturally open (meaning the walls of the interior of the vagina normally touch each other unless something is inserted inside). The entire system changes a lot during sexual arousal. It should also be noted that the shape of the pelvis influences the curvature of the lower spine, including the angle of the tailbone.

A neovagina is a short canal made out of penile skin that is anchored in place by varying degrees of scar tissue. If they use other tissues to create the canal they still will not be able to remain flexible because underlying scarring is the only thing keeping the canal open, scarring is not flexible. Male genitalia is much higher on the pubic bone than female genitalia, and so are neovaginas. neovaginas are forced open so as to prevent stenosis and/or healing shut from the inside. The dilators used to keep the neovagina open are completely straight and so if a patient follows the dilation schedule and is lucky, they will end up with a dick holster that is straight and therefore able to accommodate a penis. The materials used aren't flexible enough to mimic the shape of a normal vaginal canal. Any changes that occur from sexual arousal won't impact the neovagina unless retained penile tissue presses on the neovagina.


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If the dude in question is anywhere near his tailbone w/dilators he is going to make a rectal fistula pretty soon and start farting/shitting out of the neovagina. I kind of doubt that he is actually anywhere near it because he would definitely push out any gas or fecal matter in his rectum if his dilators were pointing that direction. They are probably pointed towards the dead space in pelvis as illustrated above, he just doesn't understand anatomy. It is also possible that he is experiencing nerve signals that don't correspond with reality, it is an expected part of surgery that sometimes nerve damage will heal in such a way that touching one part of the body near the surgery will make the patient feel sensation on a different part of the body. The two areas are close in proximity but still demonstrably incorrect. Like say you have a c-section and when someone touches the scar on the right side you feel sensation on the left side of the scar, something like that. The body ends up doing weird things when nerves get severed.
 
Once read a meta study stating that little evidence existed that SRS improved the well-being of transpeople. Later, read another study stating the opposite with the far majority of papers clearly pointing towards general gender transitioning improving well-being of transgender individuals.

How is such gap in conclusions reached?



The first study, Decision Memo for Gender Dysphoria and Gender Reassignment Surgery (archive), was made in 2016 in the US under the Obama administration by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
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Conducting the study the researchers first found a number of papers related to SRS and carefully examined every single one they added to their analysis, choosing only the best.
The researchers made it clear that more weight was given to larger studies with more objective test instruments and found that many papers on the subject were case studies, case series and similar.

Almost every single study examined had flaws of some kind.
These flaws included:
  • Small sample sizes
  • Lack of control or comparison groups
  • Most studies only examined patients a single time after surgery
  • Assessment of SRS was not defined by suicide attempts, requests for surgical reversal, medical complications and mortality but instead mostly by subjective tools designed by the researchers themselves
  • Most horrifyingly: a considerable number of patients was lost to follow up with no explanation
The best conducted studies did not show any significant change of well-being following SRS and the researchers came to the same overall conclusion.
You might wanna give it a read yourself. More issues were identified and given a more throughout explanation.

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The second study, What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being? (archive) By Cornell University took a very different approach.
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It's stated very clearly in the methodology (archive) that every study they found that assessed the outcome of SRS and hormone therapy was added to their analysis without giving weight to the size, quality, etc. of the study in question. Instead the overall results were based on the share of papers that reported positive or negative results.

With this method the researches came to the whopping conclusion that 93% of papers reported an entirely positive outcome of SRS and hormone therapy with the remaining ones reporting a somewhat positive outcome.

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Looking at their list of sources Cornell examined 55 papers (CMS examined 36). 16 of these papers were examined in both studies. Two of the studies that Cornell "assessed" used the same data and CMS therefore correctly counted them as a single study whereas Cornell did not.




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Well, get your rainbows ready folks – Few_Huckleberry8076 posted a video recently with the caption: "NSFW Peeing with phallo. I was asked for this video. I pee from my balls due to complications. Not all have this issue. I will not have future surgery to correct. Happy with what I have."

Some answers to questions you might have had:
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IDK about you, but given it's been over 20 years since she had the surgeries I'd say it is unlikely she will change her mind now and get cut up again – especially given those statements. And we got to see her pee from the balls! I bet you deviants are excited about that just as I am.


She also posted more photos of the upper body:
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Part 1, Part 2 for those who might have missed those.
You mean guys don't normally pee from their balls? :O
 
Sometimes I wonder if the push to transition is a 4D chess style gambit by the goverment to convince autists to sterilize themselves or as some greater form of population control.
interesting idea, but I believe in autists’ incompetency resulting in self-sterilization more than government competency causing it.
 
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