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Outrageous, but not impossible, especially if he was getting a lot of booze and or street drugs.
🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.
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Got busy with work, so just got time to do the write up for Maker's Mark Sunrise.
Gunt made $40 from not-streamlabs
He also got 38.11 funny money. Today it's worth .1089 totalling $4.15! Still not enough for 1 bottle of Maker's Mark! Top dono was 10.01, guy said he blew his entire load. Good luck recooping that over the next month!
Funny enough, he mentioned during the stream that he's doing diamond hooves onto Cardana (ADA) and only sold and I quote "A small amount" recently to pay for something. That shit's worth less than $2, what the fuck do you need to buy with that kind of money. Fuck, I hold a shitton of ADA, and hope it doesn't take off further does Gunt doesn't make it.
Btw I told everyone the donos would dry up after day 1.
Gunt made $40 from not-streamlabs
He also got 38.11 funny money. Today it's worth .1089 totalling $4.15! Still not enough for 1 bottle of Maker's Mark! Top dono was 10.01, guy said he blew his entire load. Good luck recooping that over the next month!
Funny enough, he mentioned during the stream that he's doing diamond hooves onto Cardana (ADA) and only sold and I quote "A small amount" recently to pay for something. That shit's worth less than $2, what the fuck do you need to buy with that kind of money. Fuck, I hold a shitton of ADA, and hope it doesn't take off further does Gunt doesn't make it.
Btw I told everyone the donos would dry up after day 1.
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You're thinking of Canadian booze prices, ya hoser.
Ade might be a retard about selecting men, but was very clear on the 50k number as Fai Fai's possible thumbing prize. Perhaps he did blow 15k on an aged 6 and started at 65k. Which would line up with akira's allegations fairly neatly
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This post will cover Ethan's activity on Odysee over the past few months, and is a follow-up on my previous posts on that subject. It is VERY long, almost 2000 words, so I've written up a digest version of the main conclusions. I'd call it a "TL;DR", but it's pretty long itself since there's so much ground to cover.
It's been a while, so to very briefly summarize what we already knew about Ethan's LBC income:
* he has two known wallet addresses, bYwaDEmBruqupqxoWYi7KkUV7iUReoFNr2 (which is his primary wallet on which he received his normal income and loyalty rewards), and bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU (which he used to create his channel / stake his username but does not use to receive any normal income or loyalty rewards).
* in addition to standard income and loyalty rewards, Ethan has received LBC from two large wallets. One of these, bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, is a designated LBRY staff wallet as denoted on the blockchain explorer:
Site (archive)
It is the account that is often used to disburse Odysee loyalty rewards, but the amount of LBC that is being sent to Ethan far exceeds the maximum level of these rewards:
Site (archive)
In my opinion these are probably payments being fulfilled via reward codes, but I cannot know this for sure.
The other, bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, is one that I've hypothesized to also be a LBRY staff wallet despite it not being denoted as such. The reason for this belief is that I found an old forum post where LBRY staffer Tom Zarebczan includes this wallet address in a piece of sample code, as I discussed previously:
When we left off, Bittrex, the primary exchange that traded LBC, was about to sunset its LBC market. As I had expected, this major change in the LBC economy led Ethan to cash out a large amount of LBC. It also revealed some other things that required further consideration, resulting in the massive delay in getting this written and posted.
First, though, let's go over Ethan's last Bittrex cash-outs, which include the last two cash-outs he's performed with his primary wallet:
Here, we see the transactions of 1665 LBC (*0.235 = ~$391) and 1101 LBC (*.209 = ~$230), the last two times he cashed out with his primary wallet:
You probably also noticed that there's a third deposit of 2003 LBC (*0.235 = ~$470), which is pretty interesting, since there was no associated outgoing transaction of this amount from his primary wallet. Examining the ledger reveals the reason that there's no outgoing transaction from the primary wallet - that transaction originated from a different wallet, bMxPULWNpW8JxML3mDjdgto7pskWmf9V1Z, never previously used for anything else. It does, however, have a single large inbound transaction directly from bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, the LBRY staff account that is the origin of many payments Ethan has received on his main wallet, and then a single large outbound transaction directly to Ethan's unique Bittrex deposit address:
It took a while to be able to confidently describe what this deposit represents. Bittrex allows you to manually request that your unique deposit address be changed, so it was not outside the realm of possibilities that Ethan had changed his deposit address and it had been recycled to another user. However, this possibility was firmly ruled out by his subsequent deposits to that address using his main wallet once again. Since that transaction is both preceded and followed by transactions known to be performed by Ethan using his primary wallet, the only conclusion is that Ethan Ralph used a secret alternative LBC wallet to obfuscate a payment he received from LBRY staff for an unknown reason, potentially related to hiding his income from us since he has sperged out on Twitter and during his shows over these crypto posts in the past.
Now I need to take a brief aside to go over LBRY's policy on usernames. LBRY makes a very big deal about how their user/channel names work, something I've discussed in the past. I'd just like to highlight this excerpt from their design document:
Site (archive)
They go on and on about how the community is responsible for determining what content should be associated with which username, but then go and do this:
Here is bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf directly staking 1000 LBC on Ethan's "theralphretort" username claim, essentially using administrative fiat to safeguard Ethan's control of that username irrespective of the community's stance on the matter. Hilariously, Ethan later unstaked the 1000 LBC and transferred it to his main wallet, where it's sitting and doing nothing (staking LBC you're holding just promotes the staked content and costs nothing, so leaving it lying around inert is an idiotic waste), so he basically spat in LBRY staff's face even after they bent their naming policy for him:
Now then, finding the secret wallet that received a direct transfer from a confirmed LBRY staff wallet and the username stake directly from a different suspected LBRY staff wallet raised the question of what other questionable behavior Ethan has gotten up to on the platform, and so I decided to figure that out too. Tequila Sunrise was about to launch, and I assumed that it would shake something loose...and I was not disappointed.
On the first day of his morning show (the one where he coped and seethed about my forum posts and then got called by an a-log and sperged out for 10 minutes straight), Ethan received a Hyperchat of 500 LBC (*0.17 = $85) from Tom Zarebczan, the LBRY staffer who wrote the documentation that included the wallet address bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf. Luckily, this was far and away the largest donation he received at that time, so its corresponding entry in the ledger was very obvious:
Well, as it turns out, the wallet Tom Hyperchatted the 500 LBC from was the by-now-familiar bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, conclusively demonstrating that it is, indeed, his account, and is therefore an unmarked LBRY staff account that has been used to repeatedly contribute LBC to Ethan over the past several months. He made several additional Hyperchats over the next few days, all from bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf. Furthermore, examining the staked content associated with bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf reveals that it is associated with the Odysee account "thomas.zarebczan":
When you visit Tom's Odysee page, you are immediately greeted with this:
Profile (archive)
Yes, that is a LBRY staffer with Ethan Ralph's channel stickied at the top of his own channel.
This is all quite strange in light of Odysee's statement that they do not sponsor streamers:
Tweet (archive)
Unfortunately for Odysee, their support of Ethan is not reciprocated. As of May 25th, Ethan has begun uploading his "Odysee-exclusive" Tequila Sunrise replays to killstream.tv instead of odysee.com, spurning the very individuals who have been constantly bending their own rules to pay him:
Tweet (archive)
In fact, on today's (May 26th's) episode of Tequila Sunrise, Ethan responded to a question about replays by stating that he had originally planned to upload them to Odysee a day after he put them on killstream.tv, but that this was too much work and that now he's only going to do it on the weekends. This is not the Odysee exclusivity he has repeatedly touted and is even continuing to advertise on the streams themselves:
"Exclusively on Odysee" (screenshot from today)
Tweet (archive)
(It's still not up, in keeping with what he stated today)
Odysee eventually clarified that while they stated they don't sponsor streamers, they are willing to offer some funding for streamers who leave all other platforms in favor of Odysee:
Tweet (archive)
Ethan has not only not done this, but is now doing the exact opposite, taking full advantage of a new platform's desire to grow as a Youtube competitor. It seems like Odysee is in the process of learning the lesson that every other platform Ethan has ever touched eventually came to know:
You're gonna carry that gunt.
The totals:
• Ethan has received a total of approximately 6,356 LBC ($1366 USD) from a LBRY staff account (bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot)
• Ethan has received a total of exactly 3,725 LBC ($724 USD) from a second account that looks like a LBRY staff account but isn't denoted as such in the ledger (bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf)
• Ethan has received a total of 12,610 LBC from other sources, including loyalty rewards, user view rewards, donations, and Hyperchats
The more interesting stuff:
• Ethan has a secret LBRY wallet that he used to receive a single transaction of 2004 LBC (~$470) directly from LBRY staff wallet bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, which he then cashed out using Bittrex
• Ethan has not cashed out since Bittrex closed their market, despite unstaking all of his videos a few weeks ago (i.e. all of his LBC is currently sitting unstaked and doing nothing for his channel)
• bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf has now been conclusively proven to be an account run by LBRY staff member Tom Zarebczan, making bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf an unlabeled LBRY staff account that has repeatedly sent money to Ethan
• Therefore there have been two LBRY staffers sending substantial amounts of money to Ethan, despite Odysee stating that they do not sponsor streamers
• These payments are far in excess of the highest tier of loyalty rewards
• These payments began months before Tequila Sunrise was established
• Tom has Ethan's channel stickied at the top of his own channel on his LBRY staff account
• Tom's account staked 1000 LBC on Ethan's username claim directly, effectively preventing the community from determining who should have the channel name "theralphretort"; this is in contravention to LBRY's stated policy on names being determined by user stakes and not staff fiat
• Ethan grabbed this 1000 LBC, unstaked it, and withdrew it to his primary wallet
• Odysee's Twitter account suggested they might have an exclusivity agreement with Ethan that isn't technically a sponsorship
• Ethan is now uploading his self-proclaimed “Odysee-exclusive” replays to killstream.tv first, violating any potential exclusivity agreement with LBRY staff; he even says he's not putting them on Odysee the next day as he'd originally claimed because it's too much work
All of these statements are thoroughly substantiated and the evidence can be found within the full writeup below. This is not a full enumeration of Ethan's activity on Odysee/LBRY since he's now taking steps to obfuscate his payments using secret wallets but it still covers what I believe to be most of it.
• Ethan has received a total of approximately 6,356 LBC ($1366 USD) from a LBRY staff account (bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot)
• Ethan has received a total of exactly 3,725 LBC ($724 USD) from a second account that looks like a LBRY staff account but isn't denoted as such in the ledger (bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf)
• Ethan has received a total of 12,610 LBC from other sources, including loyalty rewards, user view rewards, donations, and Hyperchats
The more interesting stuff:
• Ethan has a secret LBRY wallet that he used to receive a single transaction of 2004 LBC (~$470) directly from LBRY staff wallet bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, which he then cashed out using Bittrex
• Ethan has not cashed out since Bittrex closed their market, despite unstaking all of his videos a few weeks ago (i.e. all of his LBC is currently sitting unstaked and doing nothing for his channel)
• bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf has now been conclusively proven to be an account run by LBRY staff member Tom Zarebczan, making bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf an unlabeled LBRY staff account that has repeatedly sent money to Ethan
• Therefore there have been two LBRY staffers sending substantial amounts of money to Ethan, despite Odysee stating that they do not sponsor streamers
• These payments are far in excess of the highest tier of loyalty rewards
• These payments began months before Tequila Sunrise was established
• Tom has Ethan's channel stickied at the top of his own channel on his LBRY staff account
• Tom's account staked 1000 LBC on Ethan's username claim directly, effectively preventing the community from determining who should have the channel name "theralphretort"; this is in contravention to LBRY's stated policy on names being determined by user stakes and not staff fiat
• Ethan grabbed this 1000 LBC, unstaked it, and withdrew it to his primary wallet
• Odysee's Twitter account suggested they might have an exclusivity agreement with Ethan that isn't technically a sponsorship
• Ethan is now uploading his self-proclaimed “Odysee-exclusive” replays to killstream.tv first, violating any potential exclusivity agreement with LBRY staff; he even says he's not putting them on Odysee the next day as he'd originally claimed because it's too much work
All of these statements are thoroughly substantiated and the evidence can be found within the full writeup below. This is not a full enumeration of Ethan's activity on Odysee/LBRY since he's now taking steps to obfuscate his payments using secret wallets but it still covers what I believe to be most of it.
It's been a while, so to very briefly summarize what we already knew about Ethan's LBC income:
* he has two known wallet addresses, bYwaDEmBruqupqxoWYi7KkUV7iUReoFNr2 (which is his primary wallet on which he received his normal income and loyalty rewards), and bJke1hUZdNGS7c7r3xXyXBZnNngod7uKhU (which he used to create his channel / stake his username but does not use to receive any normal income or loyalty rewards).
* in addition to standard income and loyalty rewards, Ethan has received LBC from two large wallets. One of these, bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, is a designated LBRY staff wallet as denoted on the blockchain explorer:
Site (archive)
It is the account that is often used to disburse Odysee loyalty rewards, but the amount of LBC that is being sent to Ethan far exceeds the maximum level of these rewards:
Site (archive)
In my opinion these are probably payments being fulfilled via reward codes, but I cannot know this for sure.
The other, bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, is one that I've hypothesized to also be a LBRY staff wallet despite it not being denoted as such. The reason for this belief is that I found an old forum post where LBRY staffer Tom Zarebczan includes this wallet address in a piece of sample code, as I discussed previously:
When we left off, Bittrex, the primary exchange that traded LBC, was about to sunset its LBC market. As I had expected, this major change in the LBC economy led Ethan to cash out a large amount of LBC. It also revealed some other things that required further consideration, resulting in the massive delay in getting this written and posted.
First, though, let's go over Ethan's last Bittrex cash-outs, which include the last two cash-outs he's performed with his primary wallet:
Here, we see the transactions of 1665 LBC (*0.235 = ~$391) and 1101 LBC (*.209 = ~$230), the last two times he cashed out with his primary wallet:
You probably also noticed that there's a third deposit of 2003 LBC (*0.235 = ~$470), which is pretty interesting, since there was no associated outgoing transaction of this amount from his primary wallet. Examining the ledger reveals the reason that there's no outgoing transaction from the primary wallet - that transaction originated from a different wallet, bMxPULWNpW8JxML3mDjdgto7pskWmf9V1Z, never previously used for anything else. It does, however, have a single large inbound transaction directly from bG1fEEqDVepDy3AbvM8outQ3FQUu76aDot, the LBRY staff account that is the origin of many payments Ethan has received on his main wallet, and then a single large outbound transaction directly to Ethan's unique Bittrex deposit address:
It took a while to be able to confidently describe what this deposit represents. Bittrex allows you to manually request that your unique deposit address be changed, so it was not outside the realm of possibilities that Ethan had changed his deposit address and it had been recycled to another user. However, this possibility was firmly ruled out by his subsequent deposits to that address using his main wallet once again. Since that transaction is both preceded and followed by transactions known to be performed by Ethan using his primary wallet, the only conclusion is that Ethan Ralph used a secret alternative LBC wallet to obfuscate a payment he received from LBRY staff for an unknown reason, potentially related to hiding his income from us since he has sperged out on Twitter and during his shows over these crypto posts in the past.
Now I need to take a brief aside to go over LBRY's policy on usernames. LBRY makes a very big deal about how their user/channel names work, something I've discussed in the past. I'd just like to highlight this excerpt from their design document:
Site (archive)
They go on and on about how the community is responsible for determining what content should be associated with which username, but then go and do this:
Here is bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf directly staking 1000 LBC on Ethan's "theralphretort" username claim, essentially using administrative fiat to safeguard Ethan's control of that username irrespective of the community's stance on the matter. Hilariously, Ethan later unstaked the 1000 LBC and transferred it to his main wallet, where it's sitting and doing nothing (staking LBC you're holding just promotes the staked content and costs nothing, so leaving it lying around inert is an idiotic waste), so he basically spat in LBRY staff's face even after they bent their naming policy for him:
Now then, finding the secret wallet that received a direct transfer from a confirmed LBRY staff wallet and the username stake directly from a different suspected LBRY staff wallet raised the question of what other questionable behavior Ethan has gotten up to on the platform, and so I decided to figure that out too. Tequila Sunrise was about to launch, and I assumed that it would shake something loose...and I was not disappointed.
On the first day of his morning show (the one where he coped and seethed about my forum posts and then got called by an a-log and sperged out for 10 minutes straight), Ethan received a Hyperchat of 500 LBC (*0.17 = $85) from Tom Zarebczan, the LBRY staffer who wrote the documentation that included the wallet address bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf. Luckily, this was far and away the largest donation he received at that time, so its corresponding entry in the ledger was very obvious:
Well, as it turns out, the wallet Tom Hyperchatted the 500 LBC from was the by-now-familiar bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf, conclusively demonstrating that it is, indeed, his account, and is therefore an unmarked LBRY staff account that has been used to repeatedly contribute LBC to Ethan over the past several months. He made several additional Hyperchats over the next few days, all from bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf. Furthermore, examining the staked content associated with bHi3b7diCyKSiCNvKSNQsMnbmvwS2MV7Sf reveals that it is associated with the Odysee account "thomas.zarebczan":
When you visit Tom's Odysee page, you are immediately greeted with this:
Profile (archive)
Yes, that is a LBRY staffer with Ethan Ralph's channel stickied at the top of his own channel.
This is all quite strange in light of Odysee's statement that they do not sponsor streamers:
Tweet (archive)
Unfortunately for Odysee, their support of Ethan is not reciprocated. As of May 25th, Ethan has begun uploading his "Odysee-exclusive" Tequila Sunrise replays to killstream.tv instead of odysee.com, spurning the very individuals who have been constantly bending their own rules to pay him:
Tweet (archive)
In fact, on today's (May 26th's) episode of Tequila Sunrise, Ethan responded to a question about replays by stating that he had originally planned to upload them to Odysee a day after he put them on killstream.tv, but that this was too much work and that now he's only going to do it on the weekends. This is not the Odysee exclusivity he has repeatedly touted and is even continuing to advertise on the streams themselves:
"Exclusively on Odysee" (screenshot from today)
Tweet (archive)
(It's still not up, in keeping with what he stated today)
Odysee eventually clarified that while they stated they don't sponsor streamers, they are willing to offer some funding for streamers who leave all other platforms in favor of Odysee:
Tweet (archive)
Ethan has not only not done this, but is now doing the exact opposite, taking full advantage of a new platform's desire to grow as a Youtube competitor. It seems like Odysee is in the process of learning the lesson that every other platform Ethan has ever touched eventually came to know:
You're gonna carry that gunt.
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Only a matter of time until Odysee can't carry the weight of the gunt any more and release him. What then?
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IRL OD streaming on Ip2?
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Start the countdown until Odysee hides the ledger.
Sriracha
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Haru, do you know the timeframe in which they gave that much?
It would be interesting to see if they keep donating or if they realise that Ralph has fucked them over and stop.
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How much does makers cost in America. It’s around 40 dollars for a 750ml bottle
@Haru Okumura fucking incredible, would maybe link to it in odysee thread for max cope and max seethe
shame odysee refused to disclose their financial relationship with the gunt via there obfuscating "no sponsorship" statement
shame odysee refused to disclose their financial relationship with the gunt via there obfuscating "no sponsorship" statement
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L. Duse
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You don't mean, "Congratulations on Sandra's death and condolences on Xander's birth"?
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I feel like these images bring a lot of fun to the thread. Let's see your best work people!
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Lovely. More entertained by the fact that in both pics he looks as if he's missing half of his lower teeth without any shopping. Really captures that inbred hick essence.
Edit: I honestly thought those mashed taters were a scoop of butter.
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Edit: I kinda wanted to ressurect that cringe "now that's rare" meme and just put "Ralph paying child support" in the steak.
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Fine work, but the side should also be a shit
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I'd say it's probably on the higher end of 30-35 outside of bumfuck nowhere, plus you have taxes, especially liquor taxes.
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Perhaps a scattering of corn for the harvest.
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Had to end the bitwave stream because it was just stuttering, hanging and chat seemed to be broken. I'll try again tomorrow night.