Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[3MMA]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

It gives these girls, (especially budding lesbians) a “valid” cop-out from having to embrace the girl dick constantly shoved down their throats, spaces, & social circles. Easier to say, “I’m demiromantic & an enby,” to justify not wanting troon dick, than being honest about classical lesbianism, which certainly didn’t die overnight for zoomers. Ever notice how a lot of so-called aero/ ace/ demi + non-binaries, tend to date each-other, if they are female? Need to come up with a name for this affect, the hidden lesbian affect? Idk.

 

[Jack Awful]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

It gives these girls, (especially budding lesbians) a “valid” cop-out from having to embrace the girl dick constantly shoved down their throats, spaces, & social circles. Easier to say, “I’m demiromantic & an enby,” to justify not wanting troon dick, than being honest about classical lesbianism, which certainly didn’t die overnight for zoomers. Ever notice how a lot of so-called aero/ ace/ demi + non-binaries, tend to date each-other, if they are female? Need to come up with a name for this affect, the hidden lesbian affect? Idk.

That's a good theory. I still think the "I wanna be special but not actually change anything" is also a huge part of it, though.

 

[Kiislova]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

It gives these girls, (especially budding lesbians) a “valid” cop-out from having to embrace the girl dick constantly shoved down their throats, spaces, & social circles. Easier to say, “I’m demiromantic & an enby,” to justify not wanting troon dick, than being honest about classical lesbianism, which certainly didn’t die overnight for zoomers. Ever notice how a lot of so-called aero/ ace/ demi + non-binaries, tend to date each-other, if they are female? Need to come up with a name for this affect, the hidden lesbian affect? Idk.

What do "aero" and "demi" mean ?

 

[3MMA]

What do "aero" and "demi" mean ?

By aero they mean “aromantic” a dumb label to say they have little to no sexual interest or attraction.
(Very convenient.)

By demi or “demi romantic” it’s dumb ass code for normal attraction; in their minds this plays out as “not being interested until you develop a deep connection or know someone well.” Pretty standard for many people. (These are my understandings of those ID Pol labels.)
Eta: typo.

 

[sarcasticslipandslide]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

This isn't so much a theory as it is the sad reality of the situation for a lot women and girls. I have spoken with far too many lesbians/female-leaning bisexual women and they all have a history of employing this tactic, specifically for this reason. You cannot just come out and say that you don't want to date men; you have to do an entire song and dance and prove that you, by no means, are available to men, or else the transbians will push and push and push. If you can't find a "valid" reason (sexual/otherwise male-based trauma doesn't count) to deny transbians access to your body? They'll call you a TERF and tell you to choke on their supple girldick, or worse: their necrotic neovaginas.

Also, on an unrelated note, it's historically been easier to claim FTM on your medical records and pursue top surgery than it is just calling yourself some flavor of NB/etc., so the FTM surgery rate definitely includes the female NB crowd. That's one of the old tips and tricks from the tumblr days: how to lie to your physicians in order to get to a gender identity disorder/gender dysphoria diagnosis by conforming to the standard FTM presentation (AKA tomboy, short hair, unshaven, "masculine" in attitude/behavior/interests/etc.; just general sexist bullshit). Nothing says "mentally well" than lying to doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists to have your tits chopped off at all costs.

 

[Screamer]

That's a good theory. I still think the "I wanna be special but not actually change anything" is also a huge part of it, though.

Douglas Murray talks about is as "coming out as I'm special."

Demi Tomato or something, ae singer I think? Gave an interview on Entertainment Tonight about how she's non-binary but she may one day come out as trans or a women. She doesn't know yet. It definitely seemed like cope at being bi-sexual. As well as very rigid ideas of gender. The patriarchy wanted her to be a women, get married to a man and have kids. She doesn't know if that's what she wants. Therefore she may not be a woman. She sometimes felt more in tune with her masculine side over her feminine one. Therefore she's non-binary.

It's a weird convergence of ideologies. Doubling down on strict gender stereotypes and homophobia. Mixed with post-modernism, critical theory views that everything is a construct. Being female was only some rigid straight, traditional category created by the patriarchy. I'm sure she'd say systemically racist, white supremacist patriachy.

Now she can go around talking about this, how she's so smart, intelligent, progressive, modern and special at coming to this realisation. Where she gets no push back, "aren't we all meant to be a mixture of both masculine and feminine?" Everyone just nods like she's talking wisdom, even though it's non-sense and makes no sense.

 

[Old Fart]

The moment a medical institution starts using unscientific bollocks like "nonbinary", they should have their license revoked.

 

[Jack Awful]

Douglas Murray talks about is as "coming out as I'm special."

Demi Tomato or something, ae singer I think? Gave an interview on Entertainment Tonight about how she's non-binary but she may one day come out as trans or a women. She doesn't know yet. It definitely seemed like cope at being bi-sexual. As well as very rigid ideas of gender. The patriarchy wanted her to be a women, get married to a man and have kids. She doesn't know if that's what she wants. Therefore she may not be a woman. She sometimes felt more in tune with her masculine side over her feminine one. Therefore she's non-binary.

It's a weird convergence of ideologies. Doubling down on strict gender stereotypes and homophobia. Mixed with post-modernism, critical theory views that everything is a construct. Being female was only some rigid straight, traditional category created by the patriarchy. I'm sure she'd say systemically racist, white supremacist patriachy.

Now she can go around talking about this, how she's so smart, intelligent, progressive, modern and special at coming to this realisation. Where she gets no push back, "aren't we all meant to be a mixture of both masculine and feminine?" Everyone just nods like she's talking wisdom, even though it's non-sense and makes no sense.

Modern western culture has this weird juxtaposition of "Women can do anything men can do! Love what you love, it's ok for girls to be like boys and vice versa!" and "I've always been kinda masculine... I'm clearly a boy!"

 

[Falling Star]

The tale of Myrocketsredglare:


She started transitioning less than a year ago... for basically no good reason? So many dumb kids these days seem to get this idea that just because they don't ~~feel~~ particularly feminine or masculine, that somehow means they're trans. They begin transitioning and start having doubts, but they hesitate to desist/detrans because of the sunk cost fallacy and not wanting to lose their fellow cult members genderspecial friends.


Her transition isn't an easy one. Who could ever imagine that pumping yourself full of cross-sex hormones could lead to health issues? wow


So now she's gotten top surgery... And she still doesn't sound anything like a man; she doesn't even particularly want to use men's restrooms. What's the point of this whole transitioning thing, again?


Uh oh... Her top surgery didn't go so well.

Spoiler: NSFW Pics

She's dismayed at the result. And yeah, this does look like very sloppy work. The reddit troons are telling her to sue, but I somehow doubt she'll be very successful (and in any case she'll still have to live with this disaster - revision surgeries can only do so much).
Well, was it worth it? I wonder if she'll continue transitioning. Hopefully this is a big wake-up call! ( )

 

[Yeeted Teet]

Do any males who identify as non-binary ever get operations to have more female sex characteristics? Like a non-binary male getting boob implants. Or is it all more on some masculine default?

Excluding whatever nullification is. Non-binary seems to be women wanting to be less feminine. With men, it's just a way of dealing with being bi and gay. With non-surgical" feminine" traits, like hair, make up, etc.

Jeffree Star is some kind of gender weirdo and he got lip fillers and ass implants, he definitely seems to be in the minority though.

Spoiler

 

[behindyourightnow]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

It gives these girls, (especially budding lesbians) a “valid” cop-out from having to embrace the girl dick constantly shoved down their throats, spaces, & social circles. Easier to say, “I’m demiromantic & an enby,” to justify not wanting troon dick, than being honest about classical lesbianism, which certainly didn’t die overnight for zoomers. Ever notice how a lot of so-called aero/ ace/ demi + non-binaries, tend to date each-other, if they are female? Need to come up with a name for this affect, the hidden lesbian affect? Idk.

I don't think that's a main reason but maybe you have a point that it contributes. I realized over in the Sideshow thread that even though technically the AGPs should be focussing their efforts more on bisexual women since they already like dick (yes, I know bisexuality does not work that way and bi's don't like troons either, but I am thinking from their point of view) and yet their focus is entirely on lesbians. Bi's will not give them the fetish validation, and I suppose NBs or whatever don't either. It's a good way to fly under their radar.

The tale of Myrocketsredglare:

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She started transitioning less than a year ago... for basically no good reason? So many dumb kids these days seem to get this idea that just because they don't ~~feel~~ particularly feminine or masculine, that somehow means they're trans. They begin transitioning and start having doubts, but they hesitate to desist/detrans because of the sunk cost fallacy and not wanting to lose their fellow cult members genderspecial friends.

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Her transition isn't an easy one. Who could ever imagine that pumping yourself full of cross-sex hormones could lead to health issues? wow

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So now she's gotten top surgery... And she still doesn't sound anything like a man; she doesn't even particularly want to use men's restrooms. What's the point of this whole transitioning thing, again?

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Uh oh... Her top surgery didn't go so well.

Spoiler: NSFW Pics

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She's dismayed at the result. And yeah, this does look like very sloppy work. The reddit troons are telling her to sue, but I somehow doubt she'll be very successful (and in any case she'll still have to live with this disaster - revision surgeries can only do so much).
Well, was it worth it? I wonder if she'll continue transitioning. Hopefully this is a big wake-up call! ( )

I am coming to believe that one big issue with a lot of these kids is that they have simply never had significant health problems or major surgery before. They think they know what surgery and recovery is, but they don't, because it's something you have to go through to really understand. Surgery, even necessary surgery, is awful on the human body, not just the procedure itself but the anesthetic as well and all the possible ways it can go wrong (of course, these things are usually outweighed by the 'necessary' part). I suppose if you are 18 and relatively healthy and middle class you might not grasp that?

It seems like they have an extreme overestimation not just of the results of trans-related surgeries, but general stuff like the ability of the human body to heal up quickly and flawlessly, the likelihood of the medical system in general to actually give a shit about them. Just so, so naive. Look at that woman writing 'PAIN' in all caps like it was an unpleasant surprise after she got her tits lopped off.

Okay, I'll stop being MATI now. I just cannot believe we as a society are letting immature dorks like that 'sans tatas' idiot stumble their way into mutilating body parts. I am pretty sure a tattoo artist would have told that girl to go home once they realized how clueless and immature she was, but the surgeon just sliced away.

 

[Secret Messages]

I’ve got a pet theory that many teenage girls & young adult women, claim “NB, non-binary, enby,” plus (importantly) “ace, aero, & demi-romantic” as a way to escape the transbians. It’s a cope tactic to fit in, as others have gone over already the use of these labels just to fit in, & the contagion aspects mentioned too.

It gives these girls, (especially budding lesbians) a “valid” cop-out from having to embrace the girl dick constantly shoved down their throats, spaces, & social circles. Easier to say, “I’m demiromantic & an enby,” to justify not wanting troon dick, than being honest about classical lesbianism, which certainly didn’t die overnight for zoomers. Ever notice how a lot of so-called aero/ ace/ demi + non-binaries, tend to date each-other, if they are female? Need to come up with a name for this affect, the hidden lesbian affect? Idk.

Spoiler: horrifying

i have a feeling that most (genuine, not trender) “asexual” teenage girls just are coping with the fact that they were raped as children and trying to distance themselves from the thought “I enjoyed it at the time.” Just something that’s always been at the back of my mind when I see girls identify this way, their home life seems a little “off.”

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

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The moment a medical institution starts using unscientific bollocks like "nonbinary", they should have their license revoked.

That's called a fucking mastectomy. But I suppose since they're all skeevy plastic surgeons they don't want to CALL IT WHAT IT IS. Oh that's right, trannies are so infantile and fragile about their genders they can't bear to hear the word "breast". "We're progressive, totally, but also ridiculously puritanical!" Actually fucking scratch that, I'm pretty sure the Puritans could say breast without gagging because they acknowledged its purpose.

The tale of Myrocketsredglare:

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She started transitioning less than a year ago... for basically no good reason? So many dumb kids these days seem to get this idea that just because they don't ~~feel~~ particularly feminine or masculine, that somehow means they're trans. They begin transitioning and start having doubts, but they hesitate to desist/detrans because of the sunk cost fallacy and not wanting to lose their fellow cult members genderspecial friends.

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Her transition isn't an easy one. Who could ever imagine that pumping yourself full of cross-sex hormones could lead to health issues? wow

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So now she's gotten top surgery... And she still doesn't sound anything like a man; she doesn't even particularly want to use men's restrooms. What's the point of this whole transitioning thing, again?

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Uh oh... Her top surgery didn't go so well.

Spoiler: NSFW Pics

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She's dismayed at the result. And yeah, this does look like very sloppy work. The reddit troons are telling her to sue, but I somehow doubt she'll be very successful (and in any case she'll still have to live with this disaster - revision surgeries can only do so much).
Well, was it worth it? I wonder if she'll continue transitioning. Hopefully this is a big wake-up call! ( )

LOL THIS CUNT THINKS SHE'S GONNA BE ANYTHING MORE MASCULINE THAN AN ALTO
Edit: of course this bitch is gonna keep going because this whole fucking thing is fueled by the sunk cost fallacy.

 

[bloomingcactus]

It really makes me sick. Especially when celebrities pull this shit. IMO there are a lot of girls that are her fans that now think, is this why I'm uncomfortable in my body? Maybe that's the answer?

Ellen Page was cute, quirky, geeky and was a good actress.


Now she's ... this


An ugly, a wanna be male actor that will get some pity roles, like the next season of umbrella academy. Then I expect them to dry up and her to fade into obscurity. There's nothing special about her now and trans is a fad. You don't see major roles going to trans actors. (Unless I'm forgetting someone.)

The cute, quirky, nerdy girl is gone, replaced by an ugly, something is just off about him, "man".

 

[CrystalChevvy]

It really makes me sick. Especially when celebrities pull this shit. IMO there are a lot of girls that are her fans that now think, is this why I'm uncomfortable in my body? Maybe that's the answer?

Ellen Page was cute, quirky, geeky and was a good actress.
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Now she's ... this
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An ugly, a wanna be male actor that will get some pity roles, like the next season of umbrella academy. Then I expect them to dry up and her to fade into obscurity. There's nothing special about her now and trans is a fad. You don't see major roles going to trans actors. (Unless I'm forgetting someone.)

The cute, quirky, nerdy girl is gone, replaced by an ugly, something is just off about him, "man".

Plus she seems very unhinged in interviews and completely miserable. Sad to see. I foresee a path of eating disorders, lots of drugs, and eventually OD:ing either at home or in a hotel somewhere. She'll be dead within 10 years.

 

[CrystalChevvy]

Oh, Jesus, someone I've Internet-known for years went to Gallagher to get her tits lopped off. I knew I recognized that name. I'll keep an eye out for the inevitable begging for money post-horrific complications.

They should have yeeted a bit more than the teets.

 

[lamp shade]

They should have yeeted a bit more than the teets.

It’s pretty unethical to do an elective surgery on someone who is so overweight. The risk of complications dramatically increases. But ethics isn’t exactly this doctor’s strong suit,I guess.

 

[sanguis draconis]

Has posted on r/normalnudes too. Skinny as fuck so he has a hip-to-waist ratio that most troons would kill for, like theydystardust who broke his collarbones and ribs will still never have it this good. Too bad the male shoulders, chest, arms, hands and chin give it away

The second pic with her sitting down wasn't loading and I was going to say the shoulder actually looked fine but, no, she just knows how to throw them back well for a standing pic. The first one looks super impressing proportion-wise but at the other angle you see she just has a triangle shape like most males.

I have a post about HealthyCompote9573 here in this thread, they really fucked that dude up

They love talking about gaslightining but this is a dude that has been getting gas lightened by that comunity for a while.

Back from a long break - lot of catching up to do!

Very glad you're back, your posts are some of the best and I for some reason like when we catch up with people that were featured in this thread.

This confused troon isn't sure which mystery hole is his urethra. He wonders if he's been unintentionally sounding himself.

Ok, but for real, he has higher chances of experiencing any pleasure from penetration with the sounding than the amhole, if he just embraces it at this point and see what his pinky can do he might actually get an orgasm (which is more than most of these guys can get with their new configuration).

Do any males who identify as non-binary ever get operations to have more female sex characteristics? Like a non-binary male getting boob implants. Or is it all more on some masculine default?

Apart from nullo there's the futa crowd, but I've noticed when the dude actually feminizes he goes full "transwomen" more easily than the girls.

By aero they mean “aromantic” a dumb label to say they have little to no sexual interest or attraction.

The "correct" term is usually "aro" instead of "aero", and it's not actually about the attraction part, but the "romance" part. It's from the original idea of asexual model of saying I am asexual and aromantic so I want to be forever alone, as opposed to other "aces" that are asexual but "biromantic" or some shit that want a gf/bf but no sex (usually girls that have some sort of trauma). But since the asexual comunity started kinda going insane, they started using any configuration they want, like "I am a bisexual homoromantic so I can call myself a lesbian cause I only date girls but have sex with men" stuff, or in the case of saying you are "aro" would be "I only want to fuck but never comit to any kinda relationship with anyone".

I can go into even more detail but as always it's full of lunacy and the younger people getting into a comunity that was relatively straight-foward and making it barely make sense.

Her top surgery didn't go so well.

The difference from her cringy flippant attitude from after surgery ("no tatas en las bañas"), and then the actual results is kinda... Usually I'd feel bad but it looks like she really didn't actually think about it like she was getting a major suregery and just acted like it was as simple as getting a new haircut.

It seems like they have an extreme overestimation not just of the results of trans-related surgeries, but general stuff like the ability of the human body to heal up quickly and flawlessly, the likelihood of the medical system in general to actually give a shit about them.

Yes, that is exactly my thoughts, and if you see the way the other trans people and the butchers talk about it, it's easy to see why: the "titus deleetus", "titty skittles". They want to demedicalize it not just in taking it out of the DMS but seem to want everything else too. It all has a cult-like "there is nothing to regret everything we are doinmg is fine and there are no consequences" because they get so scared when they see people talking about "irreversible damage" like if people realize it's serious medical stuff the House of Cards will fall and the general pupulace will discover it's all a farse.

LOL THIS CUNT THINKS SHE'S GONNA BE ANYTHING MORE MASCULINE THAN AN ALTO

Yeah, when I read that "baritone" I immediatelly realized she had no idea about she was actully doing with any of this and went into it with barely any research.

The cute, quirky, nerdy girl is gone, replaced by an ugly, something is just off about him, "man".

Don't forget the proud lesbian that was happy and even made that series with VICE called Gaycation where she looked pretty happy being a lesbian. Also she was happily married and one month after coming out as trans was filling a divorce. There is a lot of sad things happening with her.

 

[Kelly's Yeeted Legs]

It really makes me sick. Especially when celebrities pull this shit. IMO there are a lot of girls that are her fans that now think, is this why I'm uncomfortable in my body? Maybe that's the answer?

Ellen Page was cute, quirky, geeky and was a good actress.
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Now she's ... this
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An ugly, a wanna be male actor that will get some pity roles, like the next season of umbrella academy. Then I expect them to dry up and her to fade into obscurity. There's nothing special about her now and trans is a fad. You don't see major roles going to trans actors. (Unless I'm forgetting someone.)

The cute, quirky, nerdy girl is gone, replaced by an ugly, something is just off about him, "man".

All those abs and no arm/shoulder/trunk muscles. She needs a competent personal trainer or more fake muscle implants or, what the hell, why not just a few gallons of synthol.

 

[Falling Star]

Checked on Lettucelat, another one of our old friends. You might remember him as the doomer troon who immediately regretted getting SRS and started suicide-baiting and making all the other troons very uncomfortable with his harsh words on bottom surgery.

Well, it seems like he's eased off on the suicide-baiting, but he still regrets the surgery. Here's a recent update:

Spoiler: NSFW - very very gross

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/p30579/what_is_this_milk_drips_of_clit_area/
"Milk"

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Vollmetaldragon's pictures have definitely been posted here before, but searching for his username doesn't return any results. So I'll just repost them for ease of documentation. Especially important since his doctor butcher is the infamous Sidhbh Gallagher.

Spoiler: NSFW

He's still with Dr. Gallagher for some unfathomable reason and doesn't seem to blame her. She's going to do a revision surgery for him sometime between October-December.

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Bonus: Amazing1aimee only posted one picture, but I think it's funny enough to include. Another unfortunate troon with a weird "sad dog face" stinkditch.

Spoiler: NSFW

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/p2ronj/dr_kamol_srs_colon_7_weeks_ama/

The surgeon was Dr. Kamol in Thailand. He claims to do more than 2000 (???) MTF sex reassignment surgeries each year. Really puts Rumer to shame (if true), lol.