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[MysteryMan]

I feel like I could agree but there are some things I would say:

Read: I like what I can't have, and when I CAN get it, I lose interest.

This applies to her also. I played her own games back at her, stonewalled and feigned disinterest, and the longer I acted like I didn't want it the harder she tried to seduce me.

Read: I can't handle my masculinity being threatened by the most minor of grievances.

It's not minor grievances... She clearly gets off on power and legit hurt me badly just to prove a point, she drew blood it was such a hard bite and she clamped down and held it. I probably should've actually said something but in the moment I was thinking if I show that I felt the pain I will look like a pussy. I think you're just defending her because she's a woman and I'm an "asshole" or whatever. This is some feministic bullshit. I don't think that kind of thing is acceptable... I wouldn't bite a woman's lip off or hurt her. In that situation it wasn't even appropriate for her to do that it was just a power play. I have spent hours with her now so I can tell what's going on.

It's not so much submissive I care about, I don't mind playing level... But I can't be controlled. If I decide I don't want to do something, I won't do it and it's as simple as that. Guy, girl, shemale, whoever tries to make me do something, makes no difference. So somebody who wants control, there are going to be a lot of arguments when they realize I'm not compliant.

 

[HickoryDickory]

So, you're contrary is what you're saying.

 

[ON 190]

I feel like I could agree but there are some things I would say:



This applies to her also. I played her own games back at her, stonewalled and feigned disinterest, and the longer I acted like I didn't want it the harder she tried to seduce me.



It's not minor grievances... She clearly gets off on power and legit hurt me badly just to prove a point, she drew blood it was such a hard bite and she clamped down and held it. I probably should've actually said something but in the moment I was thinking if I show that I felt the pain I will look like a pussy. I think you're just defending her because she's a woman and I'm an "asshole" or whatever. This is some feministic bullshit. I don't think that kind of thing is acceptable... I wouldn't bite a woman's lip off or hurt her. In that situation it wasn't even appropriate for her to do that it was just a power play. I have spent hours with her now so I can tell what's going on.

It's not so much submissive I care about, I don't mind playing level... But I can't be controlled. If I decide I don't want to do something, I won't do it and it's as simple as that. Guy, girl, shemale, whoever tries to make me do something, makes no difference. So somebody who wants control, there are going to be a lot of arguments when they realize I'm not compliant.

So you're shifting blame to her now. Mature.

Either that or you're BOTH assholes.

 

[Mostly Useless]

It's not minor grievances... She clearly gets off on power and legit hurt me badly just to prove a point, she drew blood it was such a hard bite and she clamped down and held it.

You and me have a very different definition of 'hurt me badly'.

I was thinking if I show that I felt the pain I will look like a pussy.

Cry me a river.

I think you're just defending her because she's a woman and I'm an "asshole" or whatever.

Nah, I'm just criticizing you because you've given me no reason to suspect otherwise. There's just as much chance that she's a massive asshole too, but in a completely different way than your usual assholishness

This is some feministic bullshit. I don't think that kind of thing is acceptable... I wouldn't bite a woman's lip off or hurt her. In that situation it wasn't even appropriate for her to do that it was just a power play. I have spent hours with her now so I can tell what's going on.

There's nothing feministic about my opinion, I just think you are an idiot and continue to do things that exacerbate that prevailing opinion. If you're making out and the person you're making out with feels heated enough to do something playful like lip biting or putting a bit of force into it, then usually that's a pretty good indicator that its going somewhere. But, you of course, interpret it as an attack on your dominance and a threat. Do you see what I'm getting at?

 

[MysteryMan]

There's nothing feministic about my opinion, I just think you are an idiot and continue to do things that exacerbate that prevailing opinion. If you're making out and the person you're making out with feels heated enough to do something playful like lip biting or putting a bit of force into it, then usually that's a pretty good indicator that its going somewhere. But, you of course, interpret it as an attack on your dominance and a threat. Do you see what I'm getting at?

Did you read all what I wrote? This is how it went down... She was doing the teasing thing going "you're so easy... I can have you whenever I want... You want me don't you..." stuff like that, whispering in my ear. Because she kept withdrawing when I reciprocated, I was really unsure of how to react, so instead of saying "yes" or "no" I smirked and said "shut up" playfully to try and move on from that stuff. Then she went to kiss me so I kissed her and she bit down really hard. I'm not exaggerating, she went overboard, not playful. Then after like 10 seconds when she finally let go she said "don't tell me to shut up". She giggled but honestly it was too much... I've had girls bite my lip I know what you mean, but I feel like she went full force and it was way beyond playful. Like I said I would never bite a girl like that, if I had done it back that hard she would probably have cried.

Coupled with all the rest of her behavior, like coming onto me and withdrawing when I reciprocate trying to cocktease me (sometimes), I feel like it's a power play. In general I feel that she likes to dominate.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Did you read all what I wrote? This is how it went down... She was doing the teasing thing going "you're so easy... I can have you whenever I want... You want me don't you..." stuff like that, whispering in my ear. Because she kept withdrawing when I reciprocated, I was really unsure of how to react, so instead of saying "yes" or "no" I smirked and said "shut up" playfully to try and move on from that stuff. Then she went to kiss me so I kissed her and she bit down really hard. I'm not exaggerating, she went overboard, not playful. Then after like 10 seconds when she finally let go she said "don't tell me to shut up". She giggled but honestly it was too much... I've had girls bite my lip I know what you mean, but I feel like she went full force and it was way beyond playful. Like I said I would never bite a girl like that, if I had done it back that hard she would probably have cried.

Coupled with all the rest of her behavior, like coming onto me and withdrawing when I reciprocate trying to cocktease me (sometimes), I feel like it's a power play. In general I feel that she likes to dominate.

Calm down you insecure little bitch.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

For a good relationship I think I would need to find somebody who is very talkative, submissive and does not mind a lot of space and time apart.

Most people can't handle a partner who doesn't assert themselves and you're a dick. Do you really think you wouldn't start treating such a woman like dirt?

I've had girls bite my lip I know what you mean, but I feel like she went full force and it was way beyond playful. Like I said I would never bite a girl like that, if I had done it back that hard she would probably have cried.

She was probably trying to be sexy but there's nothing sexy about having your lip swollen for a day she probably has no idea how rough she's being. Did she just finish 50 shades?

 

[MysteryMan]

Most people can't handle a partner who doesn't assert themselves and you're a dick. Do you really think you wouldn't start treating such a woman like dirt?

Yes, I really think I wouldn't treat her badly. I don't mind a level playing field actually... But I'm stubborn as fuck when I don't want to do things and I'm picking up vibes that she would try to dominate, so there are clashes waiting to happen. You are more experienced than me I think, so you might have some better insight... But in the end iIt doesn't matter anyway because I don't plan on ever having a long term relationship. That's the existence I feel happiest with right now.

 

[HickoryDickory]

Yes, I really think I wouldn't treat her badly. I don't mind a level playing field actually... But I'm stubborn as fuck when I don't want to do things and I'm picking up vibes that she would try to dominate, so there are clashes waiting to happen. You are more experienced than me I think, so you might have some better insight... But in the end iIt doesn't matter anyway because I don't plan on ever having a long term relationship. That's the existence I feel happiest with right now.

It seems like you're jumping the gun and foreshadowing failure because of anxiety or insecurity, and then trying to rationalize it. There is no point getting worked up if you put your chips on the table.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

Most people can't handle a partner who doesn't assert themselves and you're a dick. Do you really think you wouldn't start treating such a woman like dirt?

Moreover, he's massively insecure. If he and this hypothetical attractive, physically fit, loquacious and submissive partner really spent a lot of space and time apart, one suspects the idea she might be falling for someone with more hair and better maxilla would begin to eat away at him. And we know his communication skills in a relationship context are poor; he's just given us several examples where he's behaved insincerely in order to preserve his image or manipulate his partner, undermining their potential for mutually rewarding interactions going forward. It seems likely he'd begin to treat this hypothetical woman quite shabbily, damaging her self worth in order to shore up his own feelings of importance and primacy in her life.

"Good relationship."

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

Did you read all what I wrote? This is how it went down... She was doing the teasing thing going "you're so easy... I can have you whenever I want... You want me don't you..." stuff like that, whispering in my ear. Because she kept withdrawing when I reciprocated, I was really unsure of how to react, so instead of saying "yes" or "no" I smirked and said "shut up" playfully to try and move on from that stuff. Then she went to kiss me so I kissed her and she bit down really hard. I'm not exaggerating, she went overboard, not playful. Then after like 10 seconds when she finally let go she said "don't tell me to shut up". She giggled but honestly it was too much... I've had girls bite my lip I know what you mean, but I feel like she went full force and it was way beyond playful. Like I said I would never bite a girl like that, if I had done it back that hard she would probably have cried.

Coupled with all the rest of her behavior, like coming onto me and withdrawing when I reciprocate trying to cocktease me (sometimes), I feel like it's a power play. In general I feel that she likes to dominate.

Yeah, forgive me if I don't buy that you're telling it exactly like it is, but you give off the vibes of an "unreliable narrator" if you get what I mean.

Even if you aren't lying, I'm more liable to believe that your interpretation of how things went down are probably vastly different from what actually happened. You give off this kind of vibe that you don't really catch up on social cues all that well so everything that you say can really only be taken with a grain of salt.

And even if we did believe you, so what? Sounds like you've burned your bridges with this woman. Why complain?

 

[AnOminous]

But in the end iIt doesn't matter anyway because I don't plan on ever having a long term relationship.

You act as if you have a choice.

How special of you.

 

[MysteryMan]

Yeah, forgive me if I don't buy that you're telling it exactly like it is, but you give off the vibes of an "unreliable narrator" if you get what I mean.

Even if you aren't lying, I'm more liable to believe that your interpretation of how things went down are probably vastly different from what actually happened. You give off this kind of vibe that you don't really catch up on social cues all that well so everything that you say can really only be taken with a grain of salt.

And even if we did believe you, so what? Sounds like you've burned your bridges with this woman. Why complain?

I think I'm on the money... I'm very good at picking up on social cues usually. I think you have to be to be able to pick up girls in bars effectively. You need to be able to pick up on extremely subtle hints that a girl wants you to go talk to her or vice versa that she wants you to leave... Also beyond that you need to pick up on signs she wants to kiss you, or for you to make a move, or to give her space etc. Somebody with very poor abilities at reading social cues would not be able to pick up on these things and would miss opportunities or waste time on girls who aren't DTF.

But it's not that important. I will be back in action in about 10 months time... I've decided to retire from going to bars until my steroid transformation is complete and a few other minor things I'm eyeing up right now. It would be impossible to keep speaking to a girl throughout all of this stuff anyway lmao.

 

[ON 190]

I'm very good at picking up on social cues usually.

No. No you aren't.

 

[Treblinkachu]

I think I'm on the money... I'm very good at picking up on social cues usually. I think you have to be to be able to pick up girls in bars effectively. You need to be able to pick up on extremely subtle hints that a girl wants you to go talk to her or vice versa that she wants you to leave... Also beyond that you need to pick up on signs she wants to kiss you, or for you to make a move, or to give her space etc. Somebody with very poor abilities at reading social cues would not be able to pick up on these things and would miss opportunities or waste time on girls who aren't DTF.

But it's not that important. I will be back in action in about 10 months time... I've decided to retire from going to bars until my steroid transformation is complete and a few other minor things I'm eyeing up right now. It would be impossible to keep speaking to a girl throughout all of this stuff anyway lmao.

oh my god you're still here? jesus you must have no life at all. Imagine what you could be doing instead of making a retard of yourself on the farms, Mystery. You could be gaining life experience. You could be out seeing the world. You could be working a job, saving money for the future. You could be making new friends. You could be getting la--Oh, wait, no, you couldn't.

 

[MysteryMan]

oh my god you're still here? jesus you must have no life at all. Imagine what you could be doing instead of making a retard of yourself on the farms, Mystery. You could be gaining life experience. You could be out seeing the world. You could be working a job, saving money for the future. You could be making new friends. You could be getting la--Oh, wait, no, you couldn't.

Yes my lifestyle affords me a lot of free time while I still get everything I want. Most people spend their week in a cubicle, for a measly 2 days of freedom. I am blessed and grateful for what life has given me in this respect.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Yes my lifestyle affords me a lot of free time while I still get everything I want. Most people spend their week in a cubicle, for a measly 2 days of freedom. I am blessed and grateful for what life has given me in this respect.

You really enjoy unemployment that much?

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

, so there are clashes waiting to happen.

Have you ever considered that it's possible to have a partner that you never fight with?

In any case don't get a girlfriend, but don't be a punk and puss out when pressed about your intentions. If you were "alpha" you'd have a bunch of ex-girlfriends and other chicks you only see once or twice a month. As for not treating her badly, I don't hear many accounts of women with NPD boyfriends that are very happy, I hear lots of people who manage and cope and shit, the most successful outcomes involve therapy, which you will probably not participate in or will not take seriously. Some of them struggle together but from what I've seen life is too short to date people with cluster B issues.
“I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.” I know she was histrionic but listen to how strongly she believes she's entitled to treat some other person like shit every once in awhile. You'd sound just as stupid. Sadly the CIA doesn't handle loveshies.

If pressed just say you shouldn't have a girlfriend of any kind at this point in your life but you hope she's having as much fun as you and don't let yourself get jealous when she eventually finds someone else.

Yes my lifestyle affords me a lot of free time while I still get everything I want. Most people spend their week in a cubicle, for a measly 2 days of freedom. I am blessed and grateful for what life has given me in this respect.

Lol nothing will make a pussy drier than that dude. Even most trust fund kids dress their hobbies up like jobs. If you happen to be in some such situation then at least try to fake it.

 

[Treblinkachu]

Yes my lifestyle affords me a lot of free time while I still get everything I want. Most people spend their week in a cubicle, for a measly 2 days of freedom. I am blessed and grateful for what life has given me in this respect.

So basically you're smug about getting welfare money from the government/leeching off your parents/not contributing in any meaningful way to society as a breadwinner/whatever it is you do to perpetuate being unemployed, playing video games all day, and fattening yourself up with doritoes... and you still think that women ought to find you attractive as a potential mate?

 

[MysteryMan]

Have you ever considered that it's possible to have a partner that you never fight with?

In any case don't get a girlfriend, but don't be a punk and puss out when pressed about your intentions. If you were "alpha" you'd have a bunch of ex-girlfriends and other chicks you only see once or twice a month. As for not treating her badly, I don't hear many accounts of women with NPD boyfriends that are very happy, I hear lots of people who manage and cope and shit, the most successful outcomes involve therapy, which you will probably not participate in or will not take seriously. Some of them struggle together but from what I've seen life is too short to date people with cluster B issues.
“I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.” I know she was histrionic but listen to how strongly she believes she's entitled to treat some other person like shit every once in awhile. You'd sound just as stupid. Sadly the CIA doesn't handle loveshies.

If pressed just say you shouldn't have a girlfriend of any kind at this point in your life but you hope she's having as much fun as you and don't let yourself get jealous when she eventually finds someone else.

Yes, I have some problems that need to be ironed out. I think this will happen over time as I become better with each month that goes by... Yes I think "alphas" (at least the type of person I wish to be) would undoubtedly have ex-girlfriends and chicks they see once in a while. There are numerous unusual psychological things at play which have prevented me from having these things. I don't want to dwell on them too long because I don't fully understand myself either... But I kind of feel like if I got in a relationship, I wouldn't be able to get out. I feel like I wouldn't be able to bring myself to hurt somebody unless I don't like them. So assuming it's going well and I just get bored (which is likely) or decide there isn't chemistry, I feel like I wouldn't be able to escape or would be forced into a really horrible situation.

This is partly why I found it hard to tell her I'm not looking for anything serious with her. I was scared she would cry or otherwise be very upset. Probably bigging myself up a bit to think that (LOL!)... I will just let our text interactions slowly fade and taper off without further meetings... I have never allowed myself to get in this deep before I usually cut it off with any woman, even if it's a casual thing, before 3 "dates".

I will gladly bow my head and accept your mockery for this with humility, it's well deserved. I am weak in this particular aspect and I am well aware. I think in time things will change for me.