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Just think of it this way, once the farms die, years from now you'll be browsing some random website and see a user named "Nolan Crush" because lord knows he's never going to use a different fucking handle.

Maybe he'll be on twitter yelling about ponies, maybe he'll be banned from a discord you use on your personal accounts, maybe he'll be on the news for murdering his sister in her sleep and dropped his manifesto/steven universe cover song on Facebook. But you'll smile as a wave of nostalgia for this place washes over you.
Honestly, why bother with poa.st or discord or anything else. Let's just all agree to search "Nolan Crush" exactly a year from now and use him as a Lodestar to find our new home

Gonna throw my hat into the ring regarding the idea of an actual splinter forum. I like the concept, and I think it could probably be feasibly done, but I do have some concerns that I'm curious to see what you guys think about.
I feel like the current thread is kinda protected due to it being directly part of the Farms, with the stigma that directly comes with it, and Jersh's refusal to back down to almost anything or anyone. We are essentially a large side-show attraction attached to the rest of the site like a tumor. If a split-off to a standalone VTuber forum were to happen, I'm worried that there would be a decently likely chance it would grow beyond just the Kiwi userbase and start attracting direct attention from the VTuber community at large & 'undesirables' (re: Twitter) in a capacity that this thread specifically hasn't really ever had to deal with - which, in time, could eventually lead to a Keffals-esque campaign to try and pressure whatever splinter into going down. We already know that there are a fuckton of retarded VTubers - and even more retarded fans - who would probably actually try and do this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that whoever leads it would have to be insanely strong-willed and determined like our Dear Feeder has been. And that can take balls.
This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.
We'll just have to gatekeep a nice balance between "everyone can join" and "super sekrit club." But like others have said, I don't think that's an immediate priority compared to getting a working alternative set up. Something similar to our current way of hiding stuff from guests, but only viewable to OG's/vetted users would probably be a pretty good idea though.
 
Much like Kiwifarms itself, I think it'd be hard to replicate a place similar to this thread. This just being a single thread on a much bigger forum is probably one of its biggest strengths. It's too small to have its own specific jannies that have strong opinions on specific vtubers or the community (we already have members here who throw tantrums over live commenting, talking too much about a subject, or how 'x' is a nothing burger and we shouldn't talk about it; imagine one of them being a mod) and is typically too fast for any in-fighting to brew.

Plus, like thhrang said, KF's stigma keeps away annoying redditors and twitterfags that'd have constant meltdowns over someone using the word 'tranny' or calling something retarded, who could then go whining to whatever host is used for the off-shoot.
 
Being given the rod as hard as Null has seems unlikely, and honestly if we're so far down the rabbit hole that association with the terrorist known as KiwiFarms is a death sentence it's time to move to a cabin in Idaho and just say no when the fluorescent man asks you to shorten his shotty. The bigger problem, outside of costs for storage and bandwidth (honestly surprised to see this thread comes up so small), is that it only takes one faggot in need of an express trip to a woodchipper to get 8chaned or have some absolute retards eat up an inside job fedpost about muh bombs in Ireland, etc. It's honestly surprising the farms has lasted as long as it has without those being the death knell before now, jannies might be gay but they've all done a hell of a job.

Hopefully all the doom and gloom is unnecessary and the feeder can magic another one out of his burger bag since there's a lot of good shit here not only in this thread but the other various boards (Wow people can have meaningful discussion when they don't have censors up their ass, amazing!) but I can't blame him if he just says fuck it, ISIS has less fucking trouble keeping a net presence up.

In unrelated but wholesome news Gloomwood just released to early access. Please don't be shit...
 
If you were on the internet from the 90's into the early 2000's this will be a familiar experience.
You're not wrong, your post brought me back to when I had to learn all this weird computer stuff like irc, fserves, xdcc bots and newsgroups to download Ranma 1/2 fansubs the size of Post-it notes you had to squint at to read..

edit: It's interesting, Dez will be collabing with a few of the OfflineTV crew. Dex has a drawing collab with 39Daph in Wed and another with Scarra next Wed. I'm pretty sure I've seen 39Daph in several of Dez's streams. Blue boy may also have some OTV connection, he sung something from Lilypichu as his first song on his first karaoke, wouldn't be surprised if he also joins in. If they can't collab with the HL girls without unicorns pissing themselves, might as well branch out to OTV and maybe indies like the JP Holostars.

edit: weird, posted twice, srry mod.


39Daph is apparently controversial on Twitch? I knows she is draws, appreciates "cultured" content and is considered a "pick-me" girl by other girls.

Scarra is sorta the Vesper of OTV and has his own vtuber model. It's that weird dinosaur one that's been posted on this thread a few times.
 
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Sorry I took forever on downloading Brave and getting back on here.

Here's an alternative for a while - there's an inactive vtuber board on https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/ - a great opportunity.

Why don't we populate that for a while? It's not ideal but we could basically turn it into the vtuber thread for a while until there's something else up and running. It'd also be easier to attract people to going there instead of having to chop up onions and shit. We make a bunch of threads, we talk about our tubers, we have a good time? You know?

And because of how obscure it is right now, it's not likely to get hit up by /vt/ shitters or other bad actors.

Let's start with a Pippa thread - https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/res/59.html

Maybe can make a general chuubas thread as well? Or make a few standard things like holo / niji / etc.
Since people prefer a single thread for a lot of stuff rather than splitting it up (although there is a good argument to separate some stuff):

https://boards.baked.live/chuubas/res/65.html /chuubas/ general is up.

I've made a Poast at https://poa.st/@kestraline but not sure if I'll get much usage out of it at the moment.
 
Might as well buy some highly illegal Watson Concoction while we're here on the scary Mariana's Trench level.
 
Gonna throw my hat into the ring regarding the idea of an actual splinter forum. I like the concept, and I think it could probably be feasibly done, but I do have some concerns that I'm curious to see what you guys think about.
I feel like the current thread is kinda protected due to it being directly part of the Farms, with the stigma that directly comes with it, and Jersh's refusal to back down to almost anything or anyone. We are essentially a large side-show attraction attached to the rest of the site like a tumor. If a split-off to a standalone VTuber forum were to happen, I'm worried that there would be a decently likely chance it would grow beyond just the Kiwi userbase and start attracting direct attention from the VTuber community at large & 'undesirables' (re: Twitter) in a capacity that this thread specifically hasn't really ever had to deal with - which, in time, could eventually lead to a Keffals-esque campaign to try and pressure whatever splinter into going down. We already know that there are a fuckton of retarded VTubers - and even more retarded fans - who would probably actually try and do this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that whoever leads it would have to be insanely strong-willed and determined like our Dear Feeder has been. And that can take balls.
This isn't even mentioning the potential scenario of companies harassing any splinter with DMCAs/takedown notices if people start talking in ways they don't like/'''doxing.''' Like, for example, Phase-Connect already tried to take down a post here once before and seemingly only backed off because of Josh's instant dismissal and refusal to bow down to intimidation, but who's to say that they wouldn't ever try and go after posts again on a splinter forum that could potentially lack that protection/reputation and strong leader? These kinds of things could happen.
I cant wait for the low rent vtubing onion farms subforum.

Null can posture about the dmca and shit because he has lawyers on hand. the other good thing about jf is that admins and mods are on the same page regarding internal strife - its not like null or stenographer are leaking ips and dms and shit.

otoh, wasnt the kf discord logged and leaked?
 
In another timeline Null would have used that vtuber model someone made of his avatar, damn. I didn't post much here after Beatani changed her content/went on hiatus, but if the worst-case scenario does happen, I want to say I always appreciated lurking.
 
While I still have some hope that the farms won't completely get wiped off of the Internet, you never know. I was a lurker and when I saw that the farms had a VTuber thread that wasn't in the lolcow section, I was surprised. I lurked the thread for 300+ pages and finally decided to make an account. I'm not nearly as active in this thread as I was when I first made an account because of life getting in the way. With the thread growing so fast I kept losing track and just resorted to being a lurker again with the occasional reaction emoji on a post. It was great having a place to discuss VTubers without all the reddit faggotry and the schizos on /vt/. I honestly thought we'd never make it through the whole Null nuking the thread arc of March 2021. This thread actually did make my second half of 2020 and all of 2021 better. Now I'll stop being gay and I hope that we can laugh about this whole situation in the future. If not, then it was a lot of fun talking to some of you.

I'll still keep an eye out incase someone comes up with an alternative.
 

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6. Having multiple sources already made is nice to start recording quicker instead of having to set up new sources every time. A Browser>Twitter source, a Browser>Twitch source, a Browser>YouTube source covers most bases for VTubers, and having a source of each platform for each VTuber is even better. Just unlock and make visible then interact as normal.
7. Right click workspace > Transform > Fit to screen. You should only have to do this one after the initial setup, but sometimes OBS updates will reset the window positions, so just Fit to screen again.
8. Click Interact to launch a window to actually interact with the browser. Maximize stream window when live. Remember to set relevant stream quality. Close Interact window.
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Everyone talking about how you may have to use vt as an alternative makes me want to reveal that I've been lurking on the vtuber thread on resetera whenever this site is offline. It will never compare to here and you can't say jackshit, but as far as an active thread about vtubers goes, that one is pretty active.
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Dude, I'm not that desperate.
 
edit: It's interesting, Dez will be collabing with a few of the OfflineTV crew. Dex has a drawing collab with 39Daph in Wed and another with Scarra next Wed. I'm pretty sure I've seen 39Daph in several of Dez's streams. Blue boy may also have some OTV connection, he sung something from Lilypichu as his first song on his first karaoke, wouldn't be surprised if he also joins in. If they can't collab with the HL girls without unicorns pissing themselves, might as well branch out to OTV and maybe indies like the JP Holostars.

edit: weird, posted twice, srry mod.


39Daph is apparently controversial on Twitch? I knows she is draws, appreciates "cultured" content and is considered a "pick-me" girl by other girls.

Scarra is sorta the Vesper of OTV and has his own vtuber model. It's that weird dinosaur one that's been posted on this thread a few times.
39Daph probably has some lame faggots holding a grudge because ages ago she made some jokes about the twitch ethot meta when it was shifting to pretending bikinis and exercise was family friendly content. Admittedly I'm mostly just guessing though.
Otherwise it seems like everyone but Axle has connections all over the place. Various Nijis, indies, and groups like OTV as you say all have various levels of interaction going on. Probably one of the biggest and most obvious is Scarle from ILUNA with Magni. LilyPichu has been in a chat or two during stream and IronMouse has popped in on Vespers stream at LEAST once that I know of. Basically I think Tempus is just really chill and fine with hanging out with PL connections, so long as nobody is acting retarded about it or doing some dumb shit like reference said PL. So behind the scenes I wouldn't be surprised if they all lightly introduced each other around their circles. (Which makes Mousey calling DDK "Calli" with a follow up "Guh" twice as awkward and funny to me)

otoh, wasnt the kf discord logged and leaked?
Kind of? There were two that I know of, but I think I got booted out of the one from inactivity or something. Which was apparently the one that got outed with several different porn channels, so just as well. I dunno if anyone was bored enough to archive it or anything. All that really came out of it was a buncha people whined Null had to pop in on us again so there was some hissy over that. I obviously couldn't elaborate more than that, but I'm poisitive someone has a bigger in depth post in here somewhere. Hell you could just search the thread for Nulls posts in general, he was quite forward with his thoughts on learning about it.
The other one is more or less unused, and probably has bots posting Hololive tweets more than the users have posted in total lol. Discord is somewhat tard wrangle able because you can lock sections behind roles similar to the forum.

Personally I would prefer another forum or something though. Not necessarily because of how gay discord can be, but this forum setup we have here is comfy, and works out really nicely. Edits, replies (well, usually.), @'ing and so on. Also the fact this forum had to abilitiy to lock people out of features for being retarded and abusing them. You can do a bunch of that in discord too with proper setup but it won't be the same. Although it does have a nice search function since you can search by all kindsa shit.
Extra edit: But I hate how it tried to slap everything across platforms or servers. It can be amusing to check what servers you share with someone, but if you share one then can basically go hunt you down in any of them by profile picture and/or name if you don't vary them, and they lock some of that shit behind Nitro.
 
I never really raised this question before but seeing how shit this site is at the moment (videos and images taking significant time to load on the thread page), should we cease embedding videos and images to save on bandwidth? Would it make a difference?

Forgive me for being a retard but I guess I see this like it's 1943 and Doctor Josh Goebbels is screeching to us about the Tranny Commie hoard growing and glowing in the east and that we're all in a state of total war. We all have to cut back where we can for the forseeable future. Especially if we have to hunker down for the long conflict. At some point soon we should start talking about Vtubers on the vtuber forum.
 
I never really raised this question before but seeing how shit this site is at the moment (videos and images taking significant time to load on the thread page), should we cease embedding videos and images to save on bandwidth? Would it make a difference?

Forgive me for being a retard but I guess I see this like it's 1943 and Doctor Josh Goebbels is screeching to us about the Tranny Commie hoard growing and glowing in the east and that we're all in a state of total war. We all have to cut back where we can for the forseeable future. Especially if we have to hunker down for the long conflict. At some point soon we should start talking about Vtubers on the vtuber forum.
I agree that embedding is crap with Tor, maybe if we are posting YouTube clips we include a link below it that we can copy & paste in a non-Tor browser?
 
I never really raised this question before but seeing how shit this site is at the moment (videos and images taking significant time to load on the thread page), should we cease embedding videos and images to save on bandwidth? Would it make a difference?
Your mileage may vary but setting the style chooser to stealth (disables profile pictures and the background livery) has made the site feel a bit snappier for me.


I am consistently amazed by Miori's musical talent. Sorry if this has been posted in the past two days, keeping up has understandably been a bit difficult. Left off the embed for SPEED.
 
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