2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Why are people forgetting about SCOTUS now? Or assuming it already over even if Trump does go to SCOTUS?

Thing is, the most likely outcome of the Supreme Court would be to ask the Legislature to correct the error. If the legislature is going to go along with how everything was done and just take a month long vacation and how everyone forgets this all in 2022, they likely are just going to let the electors as they are stand and "work to correct the issues".
 
Why do you think they got as far as they have? Besides, the progressive utopia awaits us, and it’s a matter of imagining what it’ll look like at this point.

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No need to imagine
 
Push back how? I regularly go to these GOP conventions and seminars, and unless you’re part of the official club you’re treated like a leper. Eyerolls, false smiles, answering questions by regurgitating talking points. There is a massive divide between the voters and the actual politicians. To them stuff like antifa and voter fraud is very much a “you problem”. They live in gated communities and have safe districts. They don’t give a fuck about their base. None of the parties do.

Sadly it's the same with the Conservative party in the UK. That's why the Brexit Party basically won the Euro elections despite having no ground game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_European_Parliament_election_in_the_United_Kingdom#Results

Unfortunately, Farage bottled it in 2020 and stood down candidates in the General Election. Then again with the near certainty that Boris will betray his voters, I'd say the Reform Party might well rise again. The Conservative party is dominated by glassy-eyed pod people just like the Republican party is.
 
Nobody has what it takes to go and throw down on the right. Everyone has already moved onto the GA runoffs. Right now, it’s only a matter of when the move to progressive utopia will happen and when the pet projects will be pursued. My money’s on the statue and memorial removal we saw this summer being first while Congress works on amnesty.
The GA runoffs are going to the democrats since the Trumpers are a large part of the current GOP combined with rigging it again.

As for Trump, he is not a conventional cuck like every republican politician right now. Will be interesting to see what he will do as it's his ass on the line.
 
Push back how? I regularly go to these GOP conventions and seminars, and unless you’re part of the official club you’re treated like a leper. Eyerolls, false smiles, answering questions by regurgitating talking points. There is a massive divide between the voters and the actual politicians. To them stuff like antifa and voter fraud is very much a “you problem”. They live in gated communities and have safe districts. They don’t give a fuck about their base. None of the parties do.

Thing is, the most likely outcome of the Supreme Court would be to ask the Legislature to correct the error. If the legislature is going to go along with how everything was done and just take a month long vacation and how everyone forgets this all in 2022, they likely are just going to let the electors as they are stand and "work to correct the issues".
Unless there’s some Wikileaks bomb or some EO that Trump made to monitor the fraud as the 4D chess people say, or if there’s evidence of foreign interference that Trump is working to verify and make public (again, which is what the 4D chess people say) and everything needs to be thrown out, i can’t see Trump winning because of how much needs to go his way and how much is out of his hands.
 
You think they've out done the Russiagate Leftists yet?
No, because Russiagate, even if true (which it wasn't), should have never been an issue.
The core theory of Russiagate is that a foreign power caused American voters to change their opinions - which isn't a fucking issue because we as Americans should be able to get our information from wherever and whoever we want.

This situation, if true, means that a major political party successfully got away with artificially manufacturing fake and/or illegal ballots to override the normal results.

Even if we assume that both are true or that both are false then this is still a much more serious issue than muh roosha
 
The point is that China has a lot of problem areas to navigate in the future and there's no guarantee they'll navigate them effectively. Pointless pedantry over whether China's government is to blame for a nuclear Russia (it's not) doesn't really affect the heart of the argument which is about how China has been governed. Which is very poorly. Or how it will cope with a challenging environment. Which will also likely be very poorly.

Taiwan is an interesting case because pre-Tiananmen had a regime very like China's in the 90s - a one-party state which was widely viewed as illegitimate but delivered growth. Unlike China, it responded to mass demonstrations by democratizing.

That makes me think that, in the absence of severe regime violence a la Tiananmen Square, one-party regimes are not, in the long run, tenable even if they can guarantee growth.

Growth in China has, incidentally, stopped long ago. And a hypothetical US uniparty regime committed to lockdowns, ending fossil fuel use and neoliberal policies to export jobs overseas is very unlikely to deliver enough growth to keep people quiet. Especially if it relies on Twitter and Facebook for its censorship. The US uniparty regime is also a bit light on how much repression it can actually deploy. Censoring people on Facebook and Twitter won't do the job. We know the army and police are pretty Republican in their sympathies. So are the Internet backbone companies which donate mostly Republican.
This is going very off-topic, but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has stood for almost a century in an extremely volatile part of the world. If a dictatorship is pragmatic enough to offer a decent standard of living to most of its citizens and looks better than the alternatives (which in the middle east are civil war and utter chaos), it can survive indefinitely. That doesn't mean I think the CCP will necessarily rule for 1000 years, and I certainly don't think a hypothetical American uniparty could offer enough stability to do so, but there's no strict rule preventing their survival. The main obstacles to this happening are the fact that the Supreme Court and possibly the Senate depending on the Georgia races will be against Biden, so he will be completely stymied and will appear ineffective.
 
The GA runoffs are going to the democrats since the Trumpers are a large part of the current GOP combined with rigging it again.
If that’s the case, it’s only a matter of figuring out the order of pet projects to be pursued since amnesty, court packing, and chipping away at the 2nd Amendment as much as you can on a federal level looks to be locks to happen in the Biden Administration, especially since Kamala is an attack dog that can be kept on a leash, along with pointing out progressives like AOC that can also know how to keep their mouths shut.
 
At this point it’s really pointless to expect Trump to win. The GOP doesn’t want to help or even care about anything along with how even if they do something “ballsy” they backtrack quite quickly. To anyone still taking hopium, expect to be disappointed on Inauguration Day.

To further look at how things are, look at how Barnes is saying “THE END DATE IS REALLY INAUGURATION DAY CUZ MUH HISTORY!” If that isn’t a sign of some defeat then you guys are becoming Berniebros
 
At this point it’s really pointless to expect Trump to win. The GOP doesn’t want to help or even care about anything along with how even if they do something “ballsy” they backtrack quite quickly. To anyone still taking hopium, expect to be disappointed on Inauguration Day.

To further look at how things are, look at how Barnes is saying “THE END DATE IS REALLY INAUGURATION DAY CUZ MUH HISTORY!” If that isn’t a sign of some defeat then you guys are becoming Berniebros

At least niggers will be in jail or sent to fight at Iran.
 
At this point it’s really pointless to expect Trump to win. The GOP doesn’t want to help or even care about anything along with how even if they do something “ballsy” they backtrack quite quickly. To anyone still taking hopium, expect to be disappointed on Inauguration Day.

To further look at how things are, look at how Barnes is saying “THE END DATE IS REALLY INAUGURATION DAY CUZ MUH HISTORY!” If that isn’t a sign of some defeat then you guys are becoming Berniebros
There's still the SCOTUS though, you're right that this situation isn't good but the Supreme Court could in theory strike this shit down in a hurry if they want. I don't know if they will or not though, and at this point I'm not holding out hope for it.
 
Unless there’s some Wikileaks bomb or some EO that Trump made to monitor the fraud as the 4D chess people say, or if there’s evidence of foreign interference that Trump is working to verify and make public (again, which is what the 4D chess people say) and everything needs to be thrown out, i can’t see Trump winning because of how much needs to go his way and how much is out of his hands.

I think at this point we're looking at a weird situation where Biden is inaugurated but the election will be seen to be illegitimate by the majority of the population.

This is going very off-topic, but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has stood for almost a century in an extremely volatile part of the world. If a dictatorship is pragmatic enough to offer a decent standard of living to most of its citizens and looks better than the alternatives (which in the middle east are civil war and utter chaos), it can survive indefinitely. That doesn't mean I think the CCP will necessarily rule for 1000 years, and I certainly don't think a hypothetical American uniparty could offer enough stability to do so, but there's no strict rule preventing their survival. The main obstacles to this happening are the fact that the Supreme Court and possibly the Senate depending on the Georgia races will be against Biden, so he will be completely stymied and will appear ineffective.

I don't think the CCP is doomed either, much as I'd like to believe it. I do think it's very misleading to say that just because they presided over growth from Deng to Xi in coastal cities they're going to be around forever.

As far as a US uniparty regime goes I think it will fail in a very nasty way and the people in the DNC, RNC, deep state, and corporate America who set it up are fools not to realize this.

Also, I do sort of suspect that the price all those RINOs extracted for letting the DNC have its puppet in the presidency was that down-ballot races not be rigged. I suspect a lot of them are going to defect to the Democrats too. That way they don't need to worry about their base hating them.

Where will it all lead? Nowhere good, that's for sure.
 
At this point it’s really pointless to expect Trump to win. The GOP doesn’t want to help or even care about anything along with how even if they do something “ballsy” they backtrack quite quickly. To anyone still taking hopium, expect to be disappointed on Inauguration Day.

To further look at how things are, look at how Barnes is saying “THE END DATE IS REALLY INAUGURATION DAY CUZ MUH HISTORY!” If that isn’t a sign of some defeat then you guys are becoming Berniebros
Oh I fully expect a Biden win. But telling people to give up right now before the final week is dumb. Keep your expectations low, but don't give up completely. You don't care about how this election goes, but a lot in this thread do. That's why we keep pushing through all this.
 
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