2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Wouldn't it be rad if Rudy Giuliani made a real stink in his undies? Like a real BIG stink. Just imagine his reaction, the grinch like grin on his face when he realizes the true golden ticket to Trump's second term...
a big stinky skidmark in his undies
Stop showing off your fetishes
 
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I think it has been mentioned earlier in the thread that reason why is that peepee poopoo is currently the only politcally correct way to insult someone. Everything else are "slurs".

Yeah these are the people who ultimately decided even their own word "shitlord" wasn't gender neutral enough so they replaced it with "pissbaby."
 
They definetly can not declare him the winner of anything. The State's can select their electors however they like. The USSC can rule that the election was conducted illegally and the State can throw it out and still give all their electors to Biden.

Once the electors cast their vote, the Senate is the only check in it. If there Trump team can make a big case and get the USSC to rule that enough States conducted their elections in an unconstitutional manner, they could refuse the electoral college and put it to a House contingent election. However, I don't see that happening. The States were the best shot. They didn't even have to give the votes to Trump, just not send their electors, but it's clear they aren't going to do that.

The only avenue I see in Trump winning is the Senate refusing to certify the electoral college. All it takes is 2 Republican senators and Romney to make it impossible. Much more likely you'll have Cruz for his 2024 run and maybe 4-5 others up for election in 2022 vote against it, and it pass with an overwhelming majority.
Or they could rule in favor of Trump because of just how obvious this fraud this. What? SCOTUS isn't allowed to make rulings that don't disenfranchise the average American voter?

SCOTUS is going to have no choice but to sort things out if the case is put in front of them. There probably won’t be a “leave it to the States to make a decision“ moment in the slightest, solely because there is nothing to stop the legislature from just handing the win over if fraud is found. I wouldn’t be surprised if this cost the Dems a few House and Senate seats if SCOTUS rules in Trump’s favor.

This forum isn't a Trumptard hugbox no matter how much you wish it was.

If you don't want to be laughed at for acting like a retarded Hilicoper and reddit fag then don't act like a retarded Hilicoper and reddit fag.

On second thought keep going I love seeing you retards prove you're only the flipside of the TDS coin. :story:

Complete with your autistic hatred of centrists.

Actually you guys might be worse as triggered as the libs got they didn't turn their party into a political deathcult over Hillidawg they fell back on Bernie and AOC.

Hillary was on her way out of the door to begin with. After her 8 years she was gonna take her trophy and go home. You have to have people ready to take her place as party forerunners/media darlings. Trump is a giant curveball to everyone. Of course there is no fall back, where can you fall back to if the world is turned on its head?
 
>GOP cucks
This is why I say the only ones who will decide how this will go is the GOP, if they cuck or not is on their own hands.

we need to drill on these fuckers heads that every fraudulent vote disefranchises a real vote, or the fake cries of muh racism, muh super legit ballot stuffing from minorities, will make the weakest representatives bend the knee.
 
Any predictions on how it will go?

It's a complete and utter coin toss in my opinion.

On one hand both the PA and AZ hearings went well and the legislators there were pretty receptive to the evidence presented.

On the other hand the Michigan GOP's leadership is pretty cucked and it remans to be see how far down that rot goes. I think there's a strong case in Michigan but it also has the biggest maragin in favor of Biden out of the contested states. Also it's unknown who from Trump's team is going to be there, the Rightside Broadcasters said it was likely Rudy wouldn't be there. So if that's true then I have no idea who steps up in his place.

So yeah I really struggle to predict how this one's gonna go. The Arizona one went WAY WAY better than I expected so i wanna be cautiously optimistic but there are alot of factors at play here.
 
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Here are the possible outcomes

1) Biden gets in, doesn't gain Senate. Biden is Obama's third term but more crippled and unpopular. Life goes on
2) Biden gets in and gains Senate. Still, it's a rather timid administration crippled by small majorities and unpopularity. Life goes on.
3) Biden gets in, gains Senate goes full uniparty with all elections rigged and the SCOTUS packed. Very bad things happen - tyranny or civil war.

4) Trump gets back in via the courts or legislatures. There is a brief chimp out, but it dies down on the streets. Trump and the media snipe at each other for four more years. Life goes on.
5) Trump gets back in. There is a serious BLM/Antifa uprising, Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and suppresses it. Life goes on.
6) Trump gets back in. Serious BLM/Antifa uprising. Insurrection Act invoked but it all melts down into a civil war because the attempt to crush the uprising makes it worse with the media cheering it on. In this scenario, Trump goes full Lincoln with press censorship and the use of Federal troops to suppress opposition.

It seems like no matter who becomes POTUS there are some 'sort of OK' outcomes and some absolutely nightmarish ones. Both the good Biden outcomes rely on the fact that the RNC won't let the DNC rig again. Both the good Trump ones rely on him being able to face down the left's goons.
If "Life goes on" means things keep going as they have been even during Trump's presidency, then we are headed for hell. The hope for a peaceful resolution is Trump or his successor halting the momentum of the left, allowing modern conservatism to establish itself. Without that, I'm not sure I would classify what happens next as "life goes on".
 
A Biden presidency won't end the Republic. Yes, progtards want Direct Democracy which is a fucking HORRIBLE idea since we do not have a politically minded citizenry like Athens. And even with Direct Democracies, there were stringent rules on who could vote. Direct Democracies existed because those who could vote were generally free enough to focus on politics of the state. If we did Direct Democracy here it'd be a mess.

In any event, like others have said, people didn't vote for Biden, they voted against Trump. Which is why the Democrats got massacred down ballot. I have voted against Obama and voted for Democrat down ballot. It does happen. So there's clearly not a mandate of any sort. Can this happen again for president? Absolutely. Republicans are fucking idiots if they don't secure voting. I think they're stupid for not uniting, but its basically just because the neo-liberals and neo-cons want to come together. The Republicans got a ton of legislative and local victories and the Dems got rid of Trump. So both parties got something out of this, which is why there's very little Republican will to upset the apple cart.

What the Republicans are doing are basically kicking the can down the road. Can this happen on a smaller scale? Yes and no. Like I've said, this was a stand alone complex, not a grand conspiracy. And in all likelihood, the whole massive mail in voting won't be a regular thing either. If Republicans get their heads out of their asses and build up their political machines proper, they'll cancel the Dems out. They probably won't though. The Republicans still need to work on stronger election reform, but without COVID fucking things up in a few years, its going to be a lot harder to make excuses for the things they did here.

To those saying there won't be another populist...maybe. It depends. You need someone like Hughie Long, who developed sharp political machines and was ruthless at destroying and dismantling his opponents. But at the same time he was also charismatic, smart and uniting. You need to be underhanded to be a populist. You can't be soft, like Bernie was, or they'll eat you alive. Trump was strong, but he was so divisive and he reveled in it, which basically bit him right in the ass. He liked being a divisive figure. While that's fine if you're unelected in business, that shit doesn't work in politics.

This election is going to have consequences. Not ones we might think of.

1) The next populist is going to be a brutal son of a bitch. Depending on their party, they will either only say token things to minorities (if they're a D) or basically ignore them except for maybe Asians and Latinos (if they're R). This election has firmly shown that it doesn't really matter what you do for the black population. If you don't have a 'D' next to your name, they'll just call you racist and move on. Even if you are black.

2) The shift back to globalism by the left is going to have fucking hilarious consequences with the useful idiots. The problem is the Democrats and their fucking sniveling cowards in the media have galvanized and permitted a violent political movement. Now, that movement no longer has any use. Mission accomplished, as they say. However, these people just don't fade away. They will riot every time a cop shoots a black criminal. Even if the guy is high on PCP and holding a human head. Which is fucking killing them locally. So the knife between the ribs will be funny to say the least.

3) We're going to have another four years of people viewing the president as illegitimate. If the Democrats are smart (They're not), they'll crush Antifa as fast as they can, because the right will be at a fucking simmer. We'll probably see a lot of outbreaks of political violence. I'm not saying civil war, but bloody protests and marches, yes. I also don't think we'll have 'The Troubles' as the FBI is exceedingly fucking good at infiltrating and dismantling violent organizations all across the political spectrum domestically.

4) The next GOP candidate/party leader is going to make sure that everyone is loyal to him to prevent this from happening again. You'd have to be an idiot to let this happen. I expect a lot of people are taking notice and are going to cut people.

If "Life goes on" means things keep going as they have been even during Trump's presidency, then we are headed for hell. The hope for a peaceful resolution is Trump or his successor halting the momentum of the left, allowing modern conservatism to establish itself. Without that, I'm not sure I would classify what happens next as "life goes on".
The pendulum has always swung both ways in America. The current incarnation of the left is no exception. People still forget that the Democrats got fucking massacred down ballot. American culture is losing money. The left is going to have to eat each other alive to stay relevant, now that there's no big bad Trump anymore. The media will still try to blame everything on him, but people want a return to normalcy so that won't be tolerated.

The only way the pendulum doesn't move is at the barrel of a gun. Which the left has to point and its nowhere cohesive enough to do so.
 
This is why I say the only ones who will decide how this will go is the GOP, if they cuck or not is on their own hands.

we need to drill on these fuckers heads that every fraudulent vote disefranchises a real vote.

It's not only that. We need to drill it into their heads that no one likes a loser. Not even one that "loses with dignity." Whatever piece of shit advisors are telling them to do this don't have their best interests at heart; the senators and congressmen who are deciding this is a good idea on their own need to know if they aren't going to fight for Trump, they shouldn't expect Trump's supporters to fight for them.

I think both halves of the Uniparty have decided the "fringes" -- far left nutjobs on the left, center-right moderates and beyond on the right -- are "stuck with them" so why bother pandering to them? The uniparty prevents any "third" parties from appearing and threatening the uniparty, so...
 
You fail to understand. Half the country just watched the left blatantly steal an election -- or at least, they believe so, and that's the same thing. Hell, even 1 in 3 Democrats think the election was stolen.

This is after a year full of radical leftist insurrectionists trying to kill people in the streets and being allowed to by the leftist state. After leftist elites intentionally sabotaged the economy and used a glorified cold as an excuse for a massive power grab, leaving millions if not tens of millions of these people economically ruined, emotionally damaged, and nothing else to do but vote. And they did, in record numbers... but magically things just HAPPENED to coincidentally fall together in just a magic way to give Biden the win. And the first thing the left did after this, before even the Ballot printers cooled off, was start posting enemies lists that they plan on destroying in 2021.

The proper response to all this is not smug laughter.

The proper response to this is fear. We are all in danger.

Half the country thinks their votes no longer matter and they're going to be actively targeted by an illegitimate regime. If this isn't turned around somehow -- if the right isn't convinced otherwise, if Trump doesn't pull it back, something -- then the Boogaloo is almost fucking guaranteed to occur eventually. The only question will be when and how bad.
They don't care that about half the country sees these elections as banana republic elections. Some think that this can never happen here, that history is over and the status quo will forever be maintained in perpetuity. Some care about "COPE COPE SEETHE COPE LOL". Others only care just that their guy got in, appearance of legitimacy be damned. You question the legitimacy of an election? You're attacked as a loon (get over it! LOL), or you're attacked as an evil person who isn't disenfranchised, you want to do the disenfranchising yourself actually!
 
Any predictions on how it will go?
An expression of the growing discontent of a rather large portion of the united states populace that will result in nothing because the political class are too blind to see the storm on the horizon. It is sound and fury signifying something nobody sane wants to happen.

I liked Beanieman's take (which was just copy pasted from some twitter take he heard and decided to bring up in a video but I digress) about how the founding fathers were just a bunch of guys meeting in places and complaining, right up until the moment they weren't.

These hearings are a bunch of people meeting in hotels and complaining, right up until the moment they aren't.

When tens of millions of voters lose faith in the government you've got a real problem on your hands, and it isn't going to go away without serious effort to bridge the giant fucking chasm of a divide that has cut across America.
Shame that it seems the only thing that both sides want to exchange is lead.
 
A Biden presidency won't end the Republic. Yes, progtards want Direct Democracy which is a fucking HORRIBLE idea since we do not have a politically minded citizenry like Athens. And even with Direct Democracies, there were stringent rules on who could vote. Direct Democracies existed because those who could vote were generally free enough to focus on politics of the state. If we did Direct Democracy here it'd be a mess.

In any event, like others have said, people didn't vote for Biden, they voted against Trump. Which is why the Democrats got massacred down ballot. I have voted against Obama and voted for Democrat down ballot. It does happen. So there's clearly not a mandate of any sort. Can this happen again for president? Absolutely. Republicans are fucking idiots if they don't secure voting. I think they're stupid for not uniting, but its basically just because the neo-liberals and neo-cons want to come together. The Republicans got a ton of legislative and local victories and the Dems got rid of Trump. So both parties got something out of this, which is why there's very little Republican will to upset the apple cart.

What the Republicans are doing are basically kicking the can down the road. Can this happen on a smaller scale? Yes and no. Like I've said, this was a stand alone complex, not a grand conspiracy. And in all likelihood, the whole massive mail in voting won't be a regular thing either. If Republicans get their heads out of their asses and build up their political machines proper, they'll cancel the Dems out. They probably won't though. The Republicans still need to work on stronger election reform, but without COVID fucking things up in a few years, its going to be a lot harder to make excuses for the things they did here.

To those saying there won't be another populist...maybe. It depends. You need someone like Hughie Long, who developed sharp political machines and was ruthless at destroying and dismantling his opponents. But at the same time he was also charismatic, smart and uniting. You need to be underhanded to be a populist. You can't be soft, like Bernie was, or they'll eat you alive. Trump was strong, but he was so divisive and he reveled in it, which basically bit him right in the ass. He liked being a divisive figure. While that's fine if you're unelected in business, that shit doesn't work in politics.

This election is going to have consequences. Not ones we might think of.

1) The next populist is going to be a brutal son of a bitch. Depending on their party, they will either only say token things to minorities (if they're a D) or basically ignore them except for maybe Asians and Latinos (if they're R). This election has firmly shown that it doesn't really matter what you do for the black population. If you don't have a 'D' next to your name, they'll just call you racist and move on. Even if you are black.

2) The shift back to globalism by the left is going to have fucking hilarious consequences with the useful idiots. The problem is the Democrats and their fucking sniveling cowards in the media have galvanized and permitted a violent political movement. Now, that movement no longer has any use. Mission accomplished, as they say. However, these people just don't fade away. They will riot every time a cop shoots a black criminal. Even if the guy is high on PCP and holding a human head. Which is fucking killing them locally. So the knife between the ribs will be funny to say the least.

3) We're going to have another four years of people viewing the president as illegitimate. If the Democrats are smart (They're not), they'll crush Antifa as fast as they can, because the right will be at a fucking simmer. We'll probably see a lot of outbreaks of political violence. I'm not saying civil war, but bloody protests and marches, yes. I also don't think we'll have 'The Troubles' as the FBI is exceedingly fucking good at infiltrating and dismantling violent organizations all across the political spectrum domestically.

4) The next GOP candidate/party leader is going to make sure that everyone is loyal to him to prevent this from happening again. You'd have to be an idiot to let this happen. I expect a lot of people are taking notice and are going to cut people.


The pendulum has always swung both ways in America. The current incarnation of the left is no exception. People still forget that the Democrats got fucking massacred down ballot. American culture is losing money. The left is going to have to eat each other alive to stay relevant, now that there's no big bad Trump anymore. The media will still try to blame everything on him, but people want a return to normalcy so that won't be tolerated.

The only way the pendulum doesn't move is at the barrel of a gun. Which the left has to point and its nowhere cohesive enough to do so.

The useful idiots of antifa wont do anything if they arent told to by their leadership. Their leadership are CCP employees. Biden is paid off by the CCP, they arent going to do anything against him, they'll only flare up to bike lock the smallest spark of anything like Trump ever happening again.

in b4 antifa is just an idea, dozens of socialst/communist organizations dont real
 
If Biden pulls this off, the American flag in front of the house is coming down. This is not the United States of America I grew up believing in. If I don't even have a voice in the vote, then there's no reason to pledge allegiance to that flag or "the Republic, for which it stands." If you can keep it, indeed.
 
If Biden pulls this off, the American flag in front of the house is coming down. This is not the United States of America I grew up believing in. If I don't even have a voice in the vote, then there's no reason to pledge allegiance to that flag or "the Republic, for which it stands." If you can keep it, indeed.
Don't worry, I'm sure your middle school will let you not say the pledge of allegiance if you don't want to.
 
The useful idiots of antifa wont do anything if they arent told to by their leadership. Their leadership are CCP employees. Biden is paid off by the CCP, they arent going to do anything against him, they'll only flare up to bike lock the smallest spark of anything like Trump ever happening again.

in b4 antifa is just an idea, dozens of socialst/communist organizations dont real
This is exactly why there have been no riots over the black men killed by police anymore, and there were more black men killed by police if you look through the local news outlets. They don't actually give a shit, they just get angry at what the MSM tells them to get angry at. BLM wasn't a movement, it was a meme.

If Biden pulls this off, the American flag in front of the house is coming down. This is not the United States of America I grew up believing in. If I don't even have a voice in the vote, then there's no reason to pledge allegiance to that flag or "the Republic, for which it stands." If you can keep it, indeed.
Get a Betsy Ross/13 star flag, or if you want to, a colonial flag.
 
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Chill out, you said it had no connection, he's pointing out the connection. No need to move the goalposts while claiming someone supports the murder of innocents.
 
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