2025 Jeffery Epstein Files

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I haven't historically found you to be a poster who deserves a serious response, but what the hell.
"The uniparty would have used it against Trump" also works in reverse, if there's nothing that incriminates Trump he should be happy to release the list seeing as he has no problems going full scorched earth on both allies and enemies.
That's my entire point. Everyone already knew that Trump associated with Epstein. And if there was seriously incriminating evidence against him, why would he POSSIBLY continue promising to release it after he already won the election? There's absolutely no benefit.

"The Illuminati is threatening Trump" implies they control Trump, implying he's not a legitimate threat to the uniparty and discrediting the previous point. Also implies they're so powerful they could have simply prevented Trump from getting into office if he was a legitimate threat to the uniparty.
Are you actually retarded? Do you seriously not understand the difference in stakes between "Trump is threatening to derail the gravy train for a few years" and "Trump is about to publicly out the richest and most powerful people in the world as pedophiles"? Do you not see how that could potentially motivate them to cross some new lines? The Uniparty "controlling Trump" is not a binary. There are different levels of political control and threats.
 
That's my entire point. Everyone already knew that Trump associated with Epstein. And if there was seriously incriminating evidence against him, why would he POSSIBLY continue promising to release it after he already won the election? There's absolutely no benefit.
This fact may shock you but Trump is a senile retard that craves attention (and little girls, but that's besides the point.) And so he filled executive positions with people who are equally retarded and this one got away from them.

What kind of 4D chess do you think his demented brain is cooking up here?
 
That's my entire point. Everyone already knew that Trump associated with Epstein. And if there was seriously incriminating evidence against him, why would he POSSIBLY continue promising to release it after he already won the election? There's absolutely no benefit.
Probably to avoid the current shitshow and hoping people will eventually forget. He was never very enthusiastic about it like he is with immigration or tariffs, it was always other people prodding him and him going "uhh yeah sure".
Are you actually retarded? Do you seriously not understand the difference in stakes between "Trump is threatening to derail the gravy train for a few years" and "Trump is about to publicly out the richest and most powerful people in the world as pedophiles"? Do you not see how that could potentially motivate them to cross some new lines? The Uniparty "controlling Trump" is not a binary. There are different levels of political control and threats.
So the Uniparty would cross new lines to stop Trump from releasing the evidence, but if Trump was incriminated on them they'd release the evidence themselves because there isn't a bridge too far they wouldn't cross to stop Trump?
 
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This fact may shock you but Trump is a senile retard that craves attention (and little girls, but that's besides the point.) And so he filled executive positions with people who are equally retarded and this one got away from them.

What kind of 4D chess do you think his demented brain is cooking up here?
I'm not saying Trump is getting into MENSA any time soon, but you would have to be a moron on a completely different level to continually draw attention to documents that incriminate you for pedophilia. It would be quite possibly the biggest own goal in human history. Trump is dumb, but he's not THAT dumb.

Where did I imply 4D chess? Something changed his mind about releasing the files, and the common explanations simply don't make sense even from a standpoint of pure self interest. He didn't advertise the release of the files after he was elected, well past the point where it could possibly benefit him, then just wake one day and decide to gaslight the entire country as a goof. Something HAPPENED. I can't imagine anything that could possibly justify not releasing everything, but saying there's no justification is very different from saying that there's no reason.

Probably to avoid the current shitshow and hoping people will eventually forget. He was never very enthusiastic about it like he is with immigration or tariffs, it was always other people prodding him and him going "uhh yeah sure".
And yet he continued on it after the election, where there was no possible benefit to him unless he was actually planning to do it. Why tell everyone that it's on Pam Bondi's desk RIGHT NOW? How could that possibly make sense as a bluff?
So the Uniparty would cross new lines to stop Trump from releasing the evidence, but if Trump was incriminated on them they'd release the evidence themselves because there isn't a bridge too far they wouldn't cross to stop Trump?
If there was serious evidence against Trump in the Epstein files, what makes you think they'd have to release everything to get to him, or that they couldn't reconstruct it from other sources?
 
Tangentially related - there's a large amount of bots defending Trump:
This is under the latest voidzilla video about Epstein
I've seen that kind of botting before on videos about the Israel-Palestine war, making claims about UNRWA and other propaganda points. Most accounts here have been made between June 7th and June 8th, but not all of them, a number seem to be active or were at some point, so it may also be some unofficial YouTube app running as a botnet of sorts or just plainly infected devices commenting without the owners' knowledge. There's nothing suspicious about this at all.
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Anyway, I've attached below the entirety of the video's comments in json format and a csv time,author,comment just for archival.
 

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I'm not saying Trump is getting into MENSA any time soon, but you would have to be a moron on a completely different level to continually draw attention to documents that incriminate you for pedophilia.
Politicians do this all of the time. Trump campaigned nonstop on locking Clinton into prison. Nothing happened and his supporters didn't care. Trump would not shut up about building a border wall. We still have wide open borders and his supporters literally do not care and will magically act like the borders are secure and everyone is deported. Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files (and JFK files) and nothing happened. His supporters do not care. There are hundreds more examples for just Trump alone breaking promises and outright lying. His supporters do not care.

They are part of a red hat wearing cult worshiping an ugly orange skinned kike pedophile who openly fantasized about his own daughter. They are literally crawling all over this forum. Bragging about how "alpha" Trump is for "grabbing women by the pussy". Freaking out that their dear leader is writing faggy love letters to his best friend kike pedophile for his 50th birthday. Leaving secrets enigmas/gamines code like "drink your ovaltine". Trump writing love letters to Epstein like they are gay lovers is perfectly fitting for the MAGA crowd.
He didn't advertise the release of the files after he was elected, well past the point where it could possibly benefit him, then just wake one day and decide to gaslight the entire country as a goof. Something HAPPENED.
Nothing happened. You fell for it yet again. Hence the popular meme of Trump supporters getting the award. A politician, in this case Trump, promised something and didn't deliver. And you fell for it yet again. And will again in the future.
 
And yet he continued on it after the election, where there was no possible benefit to him unless he was actually planning to do it. Why tell everyone that it's on Pam Bondi's desk RIGHT NOW? How could that possibly make sense as a bluff?
There's no benefit to him attacking his own base either or going "ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT EPSTEIN THAT'S DESECRATION THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY BORING TOPIC" but here we are.
If there was serious evidence against Trump in the Epstein files, what makes you think they'd have to release everything to get to him, or that they couldn't reconstruct it from other sources?
So Trump can't possibly be a moron on a completely different level for continuously drawing attention to the Epstein files but the Uniparty can? Trump's not the type to go down silently.
 
If there was serious evidence against Trump in the Epstein files, what makes you think they'd have to release everything to get to him, or that they couldn't reconstruct it from other sources?
I keep seeing this line of thinking thrown around and I hate it because it exonerates everyone if you apply it equally. Trump campaigned on "lock her up", and one of the first and biggest names on the suspect list for Epstein's clientele was Bill Clinton himself - why hasn't the Trump administration dropped any of that evidence then? You mean to tell me that there's no way even a little could be released about him? Or how about Kid Sniffin' Joe, do you really think Red Team couldn't have selectively released something about the Blue Team at all during any of the past several election seasons?

The only consistent explanation is that they are all involved. One goes down and they all go down, big beautiful Cheeto Hitler included. Remember that Epstein and Little Saint James were positively IDed by /pol/ shitposters during Pizzagate YEARS before it was brought to the public, and all it took was a handful of crackpot theories about pizza to get to it. The swamp knows full well anything it releases unredacted, no matter how selective, will be used against them and will be unraveled by a ravenous public. Trump's team played chicken with it to get a short-term victory in exchange for the long-term loss of being held up to it, it's just that the reaping came a lot sooner after the sowing than they predicted.
 
Even the posters defending him ITT aren't bringing their A game and have to constantly sidestep addressing the fact that they were lied to by coping that it's actually all part of a 4d chess plan or asserting that they never cared about Epstein anyways so it doesn't matter. It's just so fake and gay and eye roll inducing all around.
They literally know it's bullshit. It's impossible not to know it's bullshit. You have to be actually mentally retarded with extra chromosomes or be lying to defend this shit.
 
It's a slow weekend and I'm going to wildly speculate with some theories that have probably been mentioned a thousand times before.

I do think Trump is on the list. (And wasn't that public knowledge already? Did anybody NOT know he associated with Epstein?) I don't think he's a child fucker. Not because I consider him to be a moral person, but because there's no way the Uniparty would've sat on substantial evidence of it. They tried to burn down the entire country to keep him out of the Presidency. They tried to have him killed directly, twice. Don't tell me that outing him as a pedo would be a bridge too far. So, a few possibilities.

Maybe he's using it as blackmail.
Maybe he isn't a pedophile, but friends/family/political allies are.
Maybe pretty much EVERYBODY is on the list, and releasing it would bring down the entire government overnight.

But that doesn't explain why he would continue to promise to publish the list once he assumed office. Presumably he had some idea what was on it at that point. If he continued to promise it without even looking at it when he had the chance, that is historical levels of idiocy. To be clear, I am not discounting that possibility, but I don't think it's the most likely explanation.

Here's the thing. If we reasonably assume that Trump saw the list after taking office, continued to talk about releasing it, then tried to pretend it never existed, something changed. Something caused Trump to totally reverse course on this.

I honestly think the strongest possibility is this: The Illuminati (whoever the fuck they actually are) show up and tell Trump, if you release this, we're going to kill you and your entire extended family. We won't miss this time. The consequences won't matter because we'll have nothing left to lose. Publish it, we dare you.

Something like that is the only thing I can think of to explain the complete 180.
At this point, I think there's two possible explanations, neither of which is make anyone happy -

1. There's less to this meets the eye, and it's been memed into something bigger than it is. Epstein was guilty of having sex with teenage girls and Mxwell facilitated it for him. I don't think anyone denies that. However, it is harder to prove definitely that Epstein provided underage girls to other people. ted frank is a pretty conservative guy and probably the best arguing for the case that Epstein was not running on blackmail operation. It's a huge thread on Twitter, so I can' archive everything, but its worth clicking through all the replies -



If Epstein was going to blackmail people, especially on behalf of Israel, getting them to have sex with teenagers would be a very risky way to go about it.. For one, the chance that it get exposed is pretty high and if it happened, it would cause enormous blowback against Israel in America, their number one friend in the friend. American politicians are more than willing to send money and weapons to Israel. It wouldn't really be necessary to blackmail former politicians and Bruce Willis in order to keep the gravy train going.

As for his death, on July 23rd, 2019, Jeffrey Epstein was found unconscious in his cell with injuries to his neck. He was placed on suicide watch, so it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that he tried killing himself. Also, if he was killed by the Mossad, it would probably make more sense to have killed him before he was taken in to custody with an exploding pager or something like that instead of waiting until he's in a high security prison. Also, if the Mossad is going to kill people who work for them if they get caught, that woul probably make it difficult to recruit people to work for them.

Women have made accusations about being abused by Jeffrey Epstein, but fewer have made accusations about other celebrities. Virginia Giuffrie took Alan Dershowtiz to court, but later retracted her claims. Juliette Bryant is accuser who got money from the Epstein estate but also says that Jeffrey Epstein is shapeshifting alien. Johanna Sjoberg has made accusations of being trafficked by Epstein but in her original statement to police said she was 23 when she met him and everything she did was consensual. Sarah Ransome is an accuser who is the new Netflix documentary about Epstein, but at one point in time said she said she copies of sex tapes of her having sex with Bill Clinton< Donald Trump and Richard Branson, but then later admitted she made that up. If these women all have holes in their stories, and the Dershowitz case fizzled out, it might be difficult to prosecute anyone else. Donald Trump, Pam Bondi and everyone else in the administration would get nothing but good publicity if they decided to prosecuted a few minor celebrities and just said there was no evidence. Why would Mossad even care if Chris Tucker or Marvin Minsky got sent to prison to statutory rape? Kevin Spacey was an associate of Epstein. Is Israel really looking to defend him and not give the guy currently sending them a ton of weapons an easy win? Or perhaps there's not much evidence of celebrities and politicians having sex with underage girls.

Donald Trump publicized this because it was an easy way to rile up his base. He was basically running a political Ponzi scheme, and when he had to put up or shut up, he decied just to change the subject and hope his followers bought it. I guess he figured if they were stupid enough to buy his NFTs and his promises to build a wall, they'd buy anything. And by and large they have. There are complaints online, but according to a CBS poll, only 16 percent of Republicans are very dissatisfied with how Donald Trump is handling the Epstein situation. Everyone else is trusting he plan, I suppose.

2 The entire conspiracy theory is true, and Donald Trump is involved -

Donald Trump associate with Epstein with a long time, he certainly has an eye for the ladies, and acts like he owes Israel a few hundred favors.. The Mossad is supposedly protecting the pedophiles from consequences. So why wouldn't Donald Trump be one of those people being protected? Jeffrey Epstein died when Trump was president. If Donald Trump had anything to hide, Epstein being dead really helps him, doesn't it? The Deep State is supposedly trying to destroy Donald Trump all the time, but somehow neglected to fakeany information about him and Epstein. The guy they said would not be allowed to be president again, gets to be president again and is even more enthusiastic about Israel than even his first term? If the Mossad was blackmailing people, then Donald Trump is acting like he's being blackmailed more so than anyone else connected to this story.

I can accept the idea that this is whole situation is overblown. But if it is a conspiracy, I think it's ridiculous to assume that Donald Trump is not involved. I don't see how people can insist that this is a vast conspiracy involving everyone at the highest levels of power (and Naomi Campbell for some reason), but that Donald Trump and everyone associated with him is a smol bean who's to good and pure for this world. Alan Dershowtiz was associated with Epstein, but I guess after the court case flopped, there's no point in asking any questions about his involvement with Epstein. Robert Kennedy hung up with Epstein a few times, but MAGA's not hounding him for answer about what he knew and when he knew it. Steve Bannon doesn't getting any blowback for not releasing his Epstein interviews. I've seen people insist that Jeffrey epstein was perfoming ritual child sacrifices on his island, but the idea that Donald trump banged some chicks he wasn't married to is some completely unbelievable.

At this point, no one is going to to believe anything that
 
Reposting from the TES thread:

A while back I posted a screenshot of a 4chan post that happened prior to Epstien's death being announced by anyone that said his body had been switched. I was pretty sure it was real because you can find the post in the archive, but I just found this NBC article confirming its authenticity. Of course they didn't mention the post from the same poster saying they switched his body, but they did mention his first post in the thread.
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Absolutely insane to me that this was just completely swept under the rug and never talked about again. This should be the biggest story in the world especially right now. I'd bet my life that Epstien is still alive right this minute.
 
Reposting from the TES thread:

A while back I posted a screenshot of a 4chan post that happened prior to Epstien's death being announced by anyone that said his body had been switched. I was pretty sure it was real because you can find the post in the archive, but I just found this NBC article confirming its authenticity. Of course they didn't mention the post from the same poster saying they switched his body, but they did mention his first post in the thread.
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Absolutely insane to me that this was just completely swept under the rug and never talked about again. This should be the biggest story in the world especially right now. I'd bet my life that Epstien is still alive right this minute.
OP of that post in 4chan was probarly in alot of trouble since 4chan was exposed for working with the FBI.
 
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