Horrorcow Adele and Matt Allen / The Unconventional Parent - 'Off Grid Parents', appeared on This Morning for attention, backfired on them wonderfully.

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Small but vocal would be an apt description, but their words have impact as a lot of people have unwarranted fear towards a lot of medical science.

Especially when some celeb gets involved. Yes vaccines have risks and there are sometimes complications but the risk/reward ratio to any sensible person is I will have children take those vaccines.

The only vaccine I refuse to take is the flu vaccine since I am not at risk of dying from the flu.

Honestly I have to wonder if pharma companies secretly love or are funding the anti-vaxxers. No don't dismiss this as crazy till you think about it. Vaccines earn very little if any profit from each dose sold per person (instead they are super expensive to develop and there are less then a handful of companies doing research on vaccines) but one thing they is wipe out tons of profit from treating a disease. For example if the common cold vaccine came out how many hundreds of billions in profit would the various drug, natural remedy (which are often owned by the major drug companies) lose from their palpatives and placebos no longer being bought each year?

It is way more profitable to treat a disease even if it kills a good portion of the infected then having that disease no longer be on the face of the Earth due to a vaccine.
 
The flu can in fact kill healthy adults. Get the shot if you can. Herd immunity etc etc

any word on what these people are doing now? are they actually moving, or was that a publicity moment?

Their crowdfund failed miserably (They got £47 out of a £100,000 goal)

I found some interesting things from their past though.

They were reported to social services after This Morning (and Ulysses is no longer sucking on mummy's titties)
http://lifestyle.one/closer/news-re...ts-matt-adele-allen-reported-social-services/


Matt 'thought nothing' of buying Adele an £800 bracelet for her birthday (Rich niggas confirmed)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kids-free-range-couple-eccentric-harmful.html
 
So i have an interesting story regarding the "alternative medicine" these people like so much.

My grandparents dog bit this health woman while we were watching him due to being startled. We took her to an urgent care and got her patched up. Now instead of using rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide to clean the wound she used flower oils. The wound ended up infected and she had to go to thw hospital.

Now kids are always getting injured cause they're kids. How long do you think they're going to last?
 
The fucking oils. Ugh.

So, a few years back, one of the OG "diamond seller" people at DoTerra, Andy Goddard, (which is owned by Youngs, which is basically where 99% of the annoying Christian Ladies Selling Oils come from (it's all a giant MLM pyramid scheme)) had a kid who had a terrible burn accident. The kid was burned over 40% of his body.

What does this dude do in response? He sets up a website and starts shilling oils. Because of course he does. He says they're irrigating his kids burn-unit-and-surgery level burns with essential oils. He claims the hospital is prescribing his oils, after witnessing the miracle healing the oils provide.

His own kid.

They were either lying about the irrigating or totally endangering their kid for snake oil testimonial points to they could keep bankrupting their downline. One of the two.

Woo parents are the worst.
 
Oh shit I remember these crazy assholes, I saw their This Morning appearance last year. Looking at her blog, there's so much stupid ignorant bullshit. For example: her thoughts on all-natural birth.

crazy horse-faced lotus mum said:
“But it’s ok for you” I hear you cry….”you had no birth complications.’ Well no I did not have a breach baby, or multiples, or a particularly ‘large’ baby or the cord wrapped around the neck or Shoulder Dystocia or Placenta Previa.
Guess what though, I did my research and came across at least one women for each of these categories who still managed a natural birth in spite of these complications.

Ah, you found evidence of one woman who didn't die in childbirth from these complications, of course it's clearly proof that you were right all along. It's not like childbirth was one of the highest causes of death for women before modern medicine or anything.
 
So i have an interesting story regarding the "alternative medicine" these people like so much.

My grandparents dog bit this health woman while we were watching him due to being startled. We took her to an urgent care and got her patched up. Now instead of using rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide to clean the wound she used flower oils. The wound ended up infected and she had to go to thw hospital.

Now kids are always getting injured cause they're kids. How long do you think they're going to last?

Ah the rules for wound care have changed. Turns out rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide can damage tissue if overused. Plus deep cuts or large wounds better to not use those.

Oh shit I remember these crazy assholes, I saw their This Morning appearance last year. Looking at her blog, there's so much stupid ignorant bullshit. For example: her thoughts on all-natural birth.



Ah, you found evidence of one woman who didn't die in childbirth from these complications, of course it's clearly proof that you were right all along. It's not like childbirth was one of the highest causes of death for women before modern medicine or anything.

Childbirth or complications in pregnancy is still the number one killer of women in many third world countries.

It is a reason that a number of abortions are acceptable on a moral basis because otherwise the mother would be dead. Much like siamese twins you sometimes have to sacrifice one twin in the unjoining surgery so that both will not die.
 
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They'd likely kill themselves straight after they realise they can't update their Insta or FB.

That or a sabre-toothed tiger or bear would come and maul the hell out of them. Their idea of 'off-grid' isn't even close to how humans used to live in the stone age. If they truly want to be off grid, they'd need to be prepared for just about everything good old mother nature can throw at them.

EDIT: Let me count just some of the ways.

- WEATHER: If these people were transported to the actual neolithic era, be prepared for storms, droughts, flooding, periods of extreme cold and periods of extreme heat, of which you'd only have nominal protection from. Have fun dying of hypothermia or dehydration, or drowning, or from a myriad of other incidents that nature can bring. Of course, if you're off-grid, you don't need anything stupid like clothing or houses, what have those things ever done for you?

- ANIMALS: Before humans began making everything else suffer from population decline, our fellow animals had us firmly on the menu. Humans had to fight other wild animals for food, and had to be careful wherever they went because some angry predator could be waiting around the corner to eat them. Have fun being slowly eaten by a cave bear or lion - Since you're off grid, you have no need for stupid man-made weapons.

- DISEASE: This one pretty much speaks for itself. In times as recent as the medieval era, getting something that nowadays can easily be treated with modern medicine such as, say, a broken leg, could quite easily be lethal because of the abundance of deadly diseases and complete lack of antibiotics. If you somehow didn't die before you were 30, there'd be plenty of parasites to make your life miserable. Have fun getting anaemic because worms are infesting your body, or having half your foot melt off because the Madura foot fungus got into an open wound while you were walking around without clothing.

- FOOD (Or lack thereof): You see all those delicious recipes you take for granted every day? Throw them out, the lot of them. In the Neolithic, you'd be much more likely to eat everything raw. Also, you're fucked without a guide on poisonous mushrooms and plants (but since you're off-grid you don't care about that). Have fun being the guinea pig for the rest of your little tribe, every mushroom you find growing being a complete gamble as to whether it's safe or not. Also, have fun being relied on by everyone else to catch them their food, and risking starvation if you can't.

The list goes on and on. TL;DR: These simple-minded parents are so delusional that they have no idea how much of a struggle their life would be if they wanted to truly go fully-natural.
 
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I came on to laugh but now I’m just sad.
So in other words, it is perfectly natural to find boobies sexy.
Yes, but we can’t have it both ways here in the “natural parenting” where we can’t both acknowledge that something has a natural nonsexual use and a sexual use. How do these people cope with their own genitals?
Moreover, there's more awareness of autism in society nowadays and suchlike including in the medical profession.

It's the same factors that mean that cancer is more widespread in society nowadays. It's not because of CHEMIKILLS in food or the environment or mobile phone masts, it's because people who would otherwise have died of heart attacks or strokes are more likely to survive them now.
This is super important!
Their crowdfund failed miserably (They got £47 out of a £100,000 goal)

I found some interesting things from their past though.

They were reported to social services after This Morning (and Ulysses is no longer sucking on mummy's titties)
http://lifestyle.one/closer/news-re...ts-matt-adele-allen-reported-social-services/


Matt 'thought nothing' of buying Adele an £800 bracelet for her birthday (Rich niggas confirmed)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...kids-free-range-couple-eccentric-harmful.html
Of course they’re rich. Of course they are. Why wouldn’t they be?
 
These simple-minded parents are so delusional that they have no idea how much of a struggle their life would be if they wanted to truly go fully-natural.
It's the same thing with annoying in your face vegans that claim theirs is the only "ethical" choice and that we're all designed to eat plants only.

The fact remains that you can really only be a vegan when you have access to 24 hour supermarkets carrying foods from all over the world that are, for all intents and purposes, still fresh. This means you can get tomatoes in December or cucumbers in February or lemons in July. You can't do this if you're living off the land and totally off grid. There are such things as growing seasons and unless you really like canning, jarring and just so happen to have a huge farm that produces enough food to keep you and your family alive for the winter, you're going to be fucked come the winter.

These people that want to get back to nature and live like their hippie ancestors did aren't really prepared for what is truly needed to do that.
 
Well, if we are talking all organic, I think the numbers are something like, over a billion people dying from hunger, because of yield deficits, mostly in countries full of POCs.

So, basically these people are Literal Nazis. You heard it hear first.

But, hey, starving is natural.
 
Is there any reason these idiots don't work?

She obviously isn't homeschooling her children because they act like ferral monkeys and speak just as well.

They don't wanna?

Probably some gumpf about how getting a goddamn job is not natural and it killed our daddies, who both gave us a significant Nest egg that we fucking squandered. Also our old places won't take us back after that This Morning debacle.
 
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Well, if we are talking all organic, I think the numbers are something like, over a billion people dying from hunger, because of yield deficits, mostly in countries full of POCs.

So, basically these people are Literal Nazis. You heard it hear first.

But, hey, starving is natural.
And even then "Organic" at this point in time is just a marketing term. Organic is supposed to mean without pesticides and all natural. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Organic farmers are allowed pesticides but often times they must be of the "natural" variety. Some of which are just as toxic as the synthetic kind and others are exactly the same as the synthetic kind. Many times there is still pesticide residue on the produce in greater amounts than there is on commercial crops. There's less regulatory agencies looking in on organic farmers to make sure they're adhering to the rules. And when you get down to it, the food isn't any more nutritious nor does it taste superior to the other non-organic stuff.

Fact is, there's really no reason to go organic unless you're literally growing your own vegetables in your own soil with your own pesticides. Beyond that you're paying a premium for something that isn't any better for you or for the planet.

But I will say that free range meats, raw milk cheeses and farm fresh eggs are examples of this done right.

And yes, it's more than a billion people would die and most of them in the developing world if we went completely "organic". We simply can't produce enough food without modern farming methods to feed 7.5 billion people. People thinking that we need to all get back to nature it's literal first world thinking. Until the day comes that they run the risk of not being able to eat, they'll never understand how good they have it.

Poor kids though. They're in for a rough life.
 
And even then "Organic" at this point in time is just a marketing term. Organic is supposed to mean without pesticides and all natural. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Organic farmers are allowed pesticides but often times they must be of the "natural" variety. Some of which are just as toxic as the synthetic kind and others are exactly the same as the synthetic kind. Many times there is still pesticide residue on the produce in greater amounts than there is on commercial crops. There's less regulatory agencies looking in on organic farmers to make sure they're adhering to the rules. And when you get down to it, the food isn't any more nutritious nor does it taste superior to the other non-organic stuff.

Fact is, there's really no reason to go organic unless you're literally growing your own vegetables in your own soil with your own pesticides. Beyond that you're paying a premium for something that isn't any better for you or for the planet.

But I will say that free range meats, raw tard cum cheeses and farm fresh eggs are examples of this done right.

And yes, it's more than a billion people would die and most of them in the developing world if we went completely "organic". We simply can't produce enough food without modern farming methods to feed 7.5 billion people. People thinking that we need to all get back to nature it's literal first world thinking. Until the day comes that they run the risk of not being able to eat, they'll never understand how good they have it.

Poor kids though. They're in for a rough life.
They cover everything in huge amounts of BT, and then rail against gmo companies using BT genes claiming that will make resistant larvae.
 
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I think this is how they make their living.

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So they do let their children live like animals. At least they admit it.
 
That hamster/gerbil house is made of alfalfa and honey, designed to be eaten by small animals.

So keeping it outside like that, it'll survive either until the first rain (when it'll either crumble or mold), or until a rabbit decides it sounds like good eating.

She's just spent $15 on a toy far more disposable and with less play potential than any plastic item imaginable.
 
Imagine being the poor saps at the movies watching Moana next to the smelly feral family, who apparently are a-ok with Disney and their empire but not with simple plastic products
 
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