Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

[Amud]

Why are you so obsessed with your looks that you do things like this? Anecdotal evidence is one thing, and sure you may not have heard stories of it going wrong but that doesn't mean there are no risks involved when you are essentially blowing up a balloon inide your skull, which sounds risky to me.

Also, why do you hate sluts? Like what did they ever do wrong to you.

Eh, I'm just doing it for the experience, mainly. It's easy and unlikely to kill me, so why not give it a shot? If it improves my face, I'll be happy. If it doesn't, then it's not like I lost anything, right?

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate
*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society
*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

These three things will lead to the collapse of society as we know it unless we return to traditional ways. I don't know what is with everyone these days who thinks they are somehow above the wisdom of earlier generations. "Old ways are archaic and outdated! We need to change the way we run society with things that are unprecedented because it's PROGRESSIVE!" That attitude is incredibly arrogant. People of earlier generations were not idiots. They did things the way they did for a reason: because they worked throughout history. Changing things up is a recipe for disaster. "Progressives" such as sluts and social justice liberals are showing an immense disrespect for their ancestors.

 

[CatParty]

Eh, I'm just doing it for the experience, mainly. It's easy and unlikely to kill me, so why not give it a shot? If it improves my face, I'll be happy. If it doesn't, then it's not like I lost anything, right?

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate
*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society
*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

These three things will lead to the collapse of society as we know it unless we return to traditional ways. I don't know what is with everyone these days who thinks they are somehow above the wisdom of earlier generations. "Old ways are archaic and outdated! We need to change the way we run society with things that are unprecedented because it's PROGRESSIVE!" That attitude is incredibly arrogant. People of earlier generations were not idiots. They did things the way they did for a reason: because they worked throughout history. Changing things up is a recipe for disaster. "Progressives" such as sluts and social justice liberals are showing an immense disrespect for their ancestors.

why is this all the woman's fault?

 

[Positron]

I can assure you that the [nasal ballooning] method is safe. It has been used by many experienced and knowledgeable practitioners

Morphine is safe when used by experienced and knowledge practitioners too, that doesn't mean any untrained and unsupervised person should start mainlining.

and there is plenty of evidence (mostly anecdotal, but evidence all the same) that it is effective.

"Anecdotal evidence" means nothing when the parameters (e.g. the max width of a certain bone -- frankly I have no idea what are the goals of this procedure) are easily and objectively measurable.

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate

Can you show me the source(s) where
1) "Ignobilid features" are associated with either lower IQ or psychopathology and
2) "Sluts" are preferentially attracted to men with "ignobilid" features?

Anything from @Holden (who goes by Dante Alighieri in your circle if I remember right) or FSchmidt doesn't count.

*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society

I don't understand how, except in the very twisted @Holden sense that "decent men" are discouraged to pay taxes to fund a "feminist" government.

*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

As said by @CatParty, this is not solely the womens' fault.

 

[meatslab]

@Amud please make a video of you inflating that condom in your nasal cavity and also please don't ever breed.

 

[Vitriol]

Eh, I'm just doing it for the experience, mainly. It's easy and unlikely to kill me, so why not give it a shot? If it improves my face, I'll be happy. If it doesn't, then it's not like I lost anything, right?

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate
*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society
*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

These three things will lead to the collapse of society as we know it unless we return to traditional ways. I don't know what is with everyone these days who thinks they are somehow above the wisdom of earlier generations. "Old ways are archaic and outdated! We need to change the way we run society with things that are unprecedented because it's PROGRESSIVE!" That attitude is incredibly arrogant. People of earlier generations were not idiots. They did things the way they did for a reason: because they worked throughout history. Changing things up is a recipe for disaster. "Progressives" such as sluts and social justice liberals are showing an immense disrespect for their ancestors.

Mate, under the 'old ways' you'd be locked up in a monestary somewhere blaming women for letting sin into the world.

Locking up antisocial weirdos and having them copy out books did work though so maybe we should go back to former systems. Also if you were properly cowled the shape of your face wouldn't matter- win/win all round.

 

[Amud]

why is this all the woman's fault?

When did I ever say it was entirely the woman's fault? It's everybody's fault. Please don't mince my words. You are projecting your own biases (he must be a sexist because I think he's weird!) onto me.

Morphine is safe when used by experienced and knowledge practitioners too, that doesn't mean any untrained and unsupervised person should start mainlining.


"Anecdotal evidence" means nothing when the parameters (e.g. the max width of a certain bone -- frankly I have no idea what are the goals of this procedure) are easily and objectively measurable.

Ah, I see you're one of those scientific orthodoxy people. It's not true unless you learned it from a government-approved accredited institution, right?

 

[CatParty]

When did I ever say it was entirely the woman's fault? It's everybody's fault. Please don't mince my words. You are projecting your own biases (he must be a sexist because I think he's weird!) onto me.

please do not misgender me nor talk down to me because i am a woman, thank you

 

[Positron]

Ah, I see you're one of those scientific orthodoxy people. It's not true unless you learned it from a government-approved accredited institution, right?

Any problem with that?
Anyone can claim (excuse me: provide anecdotal evidence that) eating shit will get you laid; it is another thing to prove it.

 

[Amud]

please do not misgender me nor talk down to me because i am a woman, thank you

What are you talking about? My post never referenced your gender or implied anything about it.

 

[Saney]

*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society

Men like you and the ones who post on Sluthate.com and the Loveshy forums?

 

[CatParty]

What are you talking about? My post never referenced your gender or implied anything about it.

please tone down your hate towards me. your language is very threatening. this may be a reason you do not get women

 

[Pandas Galore]

When did I ever say it was entirely the woman's fault? It's everybody's fault. Please don't mince my words. You are projecting your own biases (he must be a sexist because I think he's weird!) onto me.



Ah, I see you're one of those scientific orthodoxy people. It's not true unless you learned it from a government-approved accredited institution, right?

As a person studying physics, if you cannot provide hard evidence and proof to back up your claims then you might as well be throwing your paper against a wall. Nothing is going ot happen unless you can prove, for example, morphine is safe for an untrained, unsupervised, person to use. Which you can't at all because of all of the instances of morphine addiction and things similar to that that have happened due to the effects (Morphine is being used purely as an example here, do not take it any other way.)

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Ah, I see you're one of those scientific orthodoxy people. It's not true unless you learned it from a government-approved accredited institution, right?

It's not true unless it can be proven by easily replicable peer-reviewed scientific research.

The fact that most of the institutions that teach said research are government funded has more to do with the economics of high-cost education than any belief that the government has to personally certify the truth.

Besides, what do governments have to gain by suppressing your ability to beautify yourself by shoving condoms up your nose? Are they afraid of being overthrown by the leadership power of a new race of superhumanly beautiful men?

Men like you and the ones who post on Sluthate.com and the Loveshy forums?

Definitely. That's where the greatest reservoir of human intellectual potential can be found - on forums posting shitty comics about how they can't get laid.

 

[SpessCaptain]

What manner of whingy sluthate is this?

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate

Are you fucking kidding me? Why are you so mad about this? IQ isn't genetic, it's the raising of the child and their willingness to learn.

*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society

That's called being a lazy fuck, I bet you use this as an excuse to get out of looking for a job.

*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

Families are complicated and sometimes things don't work, wouldn't you rather a child be living without an abusive parent or are you projecting that daddy/mummy left you?

Traditions are fucking stupid, we get rid of traditions and replace them with fairer ones. Do we still throw children off cliffs if they have physical or mental disabilities? Do we still try to rip off the head of a greased up goose while on horse back for sport? Do we still think women should get back into the kitchen? Hell no, because those traditions have phased out for good reasons.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Eh, I'm just doing it for the experience, mainly. It's easy and unlikely to kill me, so why not give it a shot? If it improves my face, I'll be happy. If it doesn't, then it's not like I lost anything, right?

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate
*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society
*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

These three things will lead to the collapse of society as we know it unless we return to traditional ways. I don't know what is with everyone these days who thinks they are somehow above the wisdom of earlier generations. "Old ways are archaic and outdated! We need to change the way we run society with things that are unprecedented because it's PROGRESSIVE!" That attitude is incredibly arrogant. People of earlier generations were not idiots. They did things the way they did for a reason: because they worked throughout history. Changing things up is a recipe for disaster. "Progressives" such as sluts and social justice liberals are showing an immense disrespect for their ancestors.

You should talk with @ILuvMylarBalloons, you'd have a lot in common.

 

[Ca Ira]

Hey folks, I noticed you linked to some of the threads where I discuss my nasal ballooning and have all kinds of negative things to say about me. I thought I'd come and tell you a bit more about my experience. I tried the technique for a few weeks. At first, I was noticing some strong sensations whenever I did it. I felt a satisfying expansion throughout my skull, and depending on the day and turbinate I used, a variety of other sensations such as release of ear pressure, a feeling of my teeth shifting, and soreness in my nasal bridge. After a few weeks of this, it stopped working. For several days in a row, I did the inflations but did not feel anything. I decided to take an extended break and will come back to it in the future.

I have not noticed any changes in my facial structure, but I have not been especially bothered by some of the problems I was having in the past, most notably the ear pressure and jaw clicking. At any rate, the people who claim to have noticed changes in their facial structure did the ballooning over a much longer period than I did, so my lack of visible results has not yet discouraged me. I can assure you that the method is safe. It has been used by many experienced and knowledgeable practitioners and there is plenty of evidence (mostly anecdotal, but evidence all the same) that it is effective.

Hello! I disagree with your viewpoint, but I appreciate your reasonable and civil tone. I hope the other members of the forum will respond in the same way.

I hate sluts for a multitude of reasons.

*They accelerate the genetic degeneration of our species by only allowing low IQ psychopathic specimens with Ignobilid features (for example, upper facial flatness) to procreate
*They have created a climate in which many of the most capable of men have greatly reduced motivation to contribute to society
*They have destroyed the stability of the family unit, meaning that most children now grow up in a suboptimal environment. This is unfair to the children.

These three things will lead to the collapse of society as we know it unless we return to traditional ways. I don't know what is with everyone these days who thinks they are somehow above the wisdom of earlier generations. "Old ways are archaic and outdated! We need to change the way we run society with things that are unprecedented because it's PROGRESSIVE!" That attitude is incredibly arrogant. People of earlier generations were not idiots. They did things the way they did for a reason: because they worked throughout history. Changing things up is a recipe for disaster. "Progressives" such as sluts and social justice liberals are showing an immense disrespect for their ancestors.

Never mind.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Once again, we have stuff that's straight out of the socially conservative "family values" playbook - 'Children aren't being raised in heterosexual nuclear families, this will have terrible consequences!'

Seriously can't you guys just go and vote in a Republican primary or w/e?

 

[SpessCaptain]

If we did, this forum would not exist.

All of Sluthate wouldn't exist either - Kiwi Farm's wouldn't of needed to existed in the first place.

 

[meatslab]

@Amud post a picture of yourself I want to see your superior facial symmetry and lack of upper facial flatness.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

All of Sluthate wouldn't exist either - Kiwi Farm's wouldn't of needed to existed in the first place.

We'd all be off inventing space elevators or some shit

Seriously, this is a brand of arrogance that seems to infuse the entire manosphere - "I would be the next Ozymandias/Tesla/Gandhi if not for the fact that girls deny me access to their vaginas, which is somehow necessary for me to transform the world for the better"