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Satan said:He's a shitty furry artist with an inflation fetish? And a feminist, too? Oh my sweet godbear... Pathetic.
You basically just described 90% of Deviantart.
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Satan said:He's a shitty furry artist with an inflation fetish? And a feminist, too? Oh my sweet godbear... Pathetic.
What is a lesbian kick? Like a Falcon Kick but aimed at the male genitalia.?Picklepower said:
Pikonic said:What is a lesbian kick? Like a Falcon Kick but aimed at the male genitalia.?Picklepower said:
TastyWB 2.0 said:Pikonic said:What is a lesbian kick? Like a Falcon Kick but aimed at the male genitalia.?Picklepower said:
No its a falcon kick that turns women gay.
Pikonic said:Ah, this picture totally makes sense now and should be closed to ridicule. Thank you for pointing this out.
NobleGreyHorse said:Art stylization hides a multitude of sins, but why does this leaping, kicking woman suffer an incredible lack of chin to the point where she has to have a ridiculously dark, beard-like shadow to mark the head/neck divide? Was this guy too busy working out the titty structure to give the poor lady a chin? Or does he just think everybody is like those sad fuckers on Wizardchan who posted their equally chinless photos?
... indeed, the Chandlers are suffering from an excess of chins and could stand to donate a few. But I digress.
Alan Pardew said:Hayakain (another lolcow) defending Tom Preston.
1. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -261076129
2. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -263300298
3. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -298993362
scorptatious said:Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but what exactly IS a strawman? And how does it apply to this guy?
I've seen a lot of people using that term as of late, and I don't exactly know what it means.
random_pickle said:scorptatious said:Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but what exactly IS a strawman? And how does it apply to this guy?
I've seen a lot of people using that term as of late, and I don't exactly know what it means.
A strawman is a shitty argument in comic form. It's where you have the person against your opinion be a stupid moron who makes easily countered arguments. For bonus points: said person in question acts socially unacceptable or appears ugly.
For example:
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random_pickle said:Alan Pardew said:Hayakain (another lolcow) defending Tom Preston.
1. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -261076129
2. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -263300298
3. http://hayakain.deviantart.com/journal/ ... -298993362
If I recall that's how people found out about Hayakain's lolcowness.
Why do people hate Tom Preston? said:Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.
Not literally, of course. That would imply that Chris-Chan had some form of artistic talent. But I think anyone reading this will understand what I mean by the above statement, especially after his most recent comic (at this point in time).
Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.
The fact is, Dobson draws many parallels and strong comparisons to our favorite autistic manchild. In fact, they’re so easily comparable that it’s tremendously scary. The fact that these comparisons can be made at all with any sort of seriousness is somewhat worrying at best and deeply unnerving at worst.
Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.
The first ones are the most obvious. They’re both… rotund, and in their thirties. One lives with his parents, one doesn’t (to my knowledge). They both use their art as their selling point; Chris-Chan draws his Sonichu comics in a futile attempt to create the ultimate media empire and ego-polis, Dobson draws his SYAC and his Alex Ze Pirate in a mediocre attempt at being a successful cartoonist.
But these are only the surface details. Sure, Dobson and Chris are both large artists in their thirties. Lots of people are artists. Lots of people are in their thirties. Some people are fat. But this goes deeper than that. Disturbingly deeper. Dobson and Chris, scarily enough, have very similar mindsets once you start comparing notes.
Let’s take a look at some examples.
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1: Straw-manning
Dobson is a known straw-manner, using his SYAC comics as a vehicle in which to make his detractors look silly or illogical, and a pedestal to glorify himself, his opinions, and his thoughts on art, the world, and his audience. He ignores the criticism that his linework isn’t very good, his flat coloring is blah, and that his writing isn’t funny, thoughtful or even correct, and instead makes a mockery of the people who want to help him, in a low-key vein of good vs evil. His critics are evil, and he has to provide the snappy comeback to humble them, despite the fact that Dobson is, to most onlookers, not exactly in the position to do so.
Is this sounding familiar yet? Let me continue.
Chris-Chan is a known straw-manner, using his Sonichu comic as a vehicle in which to make his trolls, his enemies of his Love Quest, or anyone that bothers him in anyway look like an “evil, love-hating person”, and a pedestal to glorify himself, his opinions, his efforts at finding “true love”, and how he things the world should work. He ignores any and all criticism of his art or his life, and instead uses the comic to make a mockery of his critics, in a blatant vein of good vs evil. Trolls are evil love-hating people, and CWC has to be the one to defeat them, despite the fact that to most onlookers, he is not exactly in the position to say anything about them.
The parallels here are uncanny. Both Dobson and CWC pride themselves on their art, and use it as a way to make themselves look good and their critics look bad, even though said critics have valid points - Dobson has indeed stagnated since his college days (though he seems to be trying to do different stuff), and CWC… well, he needs to stop being CWC.
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2: Comfort Zone
Dobson likes to think of himself as a “professional artist”, and makes tutorials and provides help to his young fans who look up to him. However, his advice and tutorials are infamously bad, either being incorrect, outdated, or simply a bunch of shortcuts. He’s known for not trying to improve or branch out in his art, and this is what has caused his ability to draw to slowly wither away. It’s not gone yet, but he hasn’t improved at all since college. He’s actually grown worse. He hasn’t been able to move on from his college days and try new things, and this is his undoing.
CWC likes to think of himself as a role model for people, and has given advice to many, through videos and mailbags, who either look up to him or simply want to know his thoughts. However, his advice is infamously bad, mostly being incorrect, hypocritical, or completely insane. He’s known for not trying to improve or branch out in his art (or any other aspect of his life), and this is what has allowed him to stay an adult child for the past decade. He hasn’t been able to move on in his life since his high school graduation, and this is his undoing.
Both of them need to start doing one thing to give themselves any hope of improvement: grow more open-minded and adapt. Their unwillingness to adapt and do, try, or think something new and different is what makes them so unlikeable - they want to keep staying the same forever, but such a concept is futile in a constantly-changing world.
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3: Insensitivity and Ego
Dobson’s general insensitivity and his ego are fairly well-known, and have been augmented by his recent comic, where he compares (yes, no matter how you try to justify or reword it, Dobson, that’s essentially what you did) the tragic theater TDKR shooting to such horrific events such as Jar Jar Binks and the CD-i Games (which are actually rather charmingly bad, but that’s off-topic). His selfishly-skewed ego is what perpetuates his straw-man comics, and is also what makes him unable to accept, and grow from, the criticism he receives.
CWC’s insensitivity and ego are legendary. Anyone who’s taken a quick peek into the CWCki can attest to that. He cannot comprehend how the death of another loved one is not the same as him losing his dog. He cannot comprehend why people call him fat, naive, a bad artist and a lazy asshole when he’s obviously the pinnacle of humanity. He mocked the 9/11 tragedy in an attempt to show how “weak” one of his critics was. When this backfired on him, he made an insincere apology video, where a picture of a birthday cake had the towers alit as candles, and saw no problem with this. This was not a troll idea, either - he did this all of his own accord. His selfishly-skewed ego is what perpetuates his existence, and is also what makes him unable to accept, and grow from, the criticism he receives.
This, front and center, is the biggest and most worrying comparison. CWC’s ego is the result of the combination of bad parenting, autism, and traits such as inherent laziness, negative nature and pathological lying. While they are not excuses for his ego, they do provide a reason why he has one in the first place.
However, Dobson has no such reasons. To current knowledge, he is not autistic. To current knowledge, he was not raised badly. He is lazy (as his constant art shortcuts show), he has lied often before (“useless degree”), and his mean comments towards many well-meaning people and his past as CattyN show his negative attitude.
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So what does this all boil down to?
Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.
Well, not literally. It is simply a short essay comparing Dobson to Chris-Chan, meant to highlight the fact that they are quite alike.
Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.
To some, this might be overdoing it. Yes, Dobson and Chris-Chan are both selfish, egotistical assholes who are variously bad at art (Chris more so than Dobson), but Chris has a zillion other problems that Dobson doesn’t. But does that make these comparisons invalid? You can form your own conclusion about that. But as for me…
Andrew Dobson is Chris-Chan.