Disaster Anti-trans views are worryingly prevalent and disproportionately harmful, community and experts warn - We're exhausted from constantly having to debate our existence,' says LGBTQ activist Anna Murphy

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Anti-trans views are worryingly prevalent and disproportionately harmful, community and experts warn​


'We're exhausted from constantly having to debate our existence,' says LGBTQ activist Anna Murphy

By: Andrea Bellemare, Kit Kolbegger, Jason Vermes
Posted: Nov 07, 2021 10:00 AM ET

Members of transgender and non-binary communities say they're seeing concerning signs that transphobic ideology is worsening in Canada.

Anti-trans sentiments are not new to the country, but several factors make this moment in time fraught, say activists and educators. That's despite the fact that the federal government moved to protect the rights of transgender people in 2017 with the passing of Bill C-16, which made gender identity and expression a protected human rights category.

"The climate for trans people has improved in the last decade very considerably, but we're definitely starting to feel some of those waves of anti-trans activism that have really taken hold in the United Kingdom and in the United States in recent years," said Travers, a professor of sociology at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, B.C, who goes by one name.

Recent media coverage, including a story by the CTV News investigative program W5 and opinion columns published by the Toronto Star and CBC, have been criticized by some members of the transgender community for pushing transphobic ideas and misrepresenting the dangers they face daily, which, according to Statistics Canada, include violence and poor mental health due to discrimination.

Among the concerning messages, say critics, are assertions that trans people who have not undergone transition-related surgery are not real men or women or that falsely paint trans women as dangerous men. Similar ideas have been spreading in the U.K. for years.

British author J.K. Rowling, for example, has made comments blurring sex (biological characteristics) and gender (personal identity) to push back against inclusive terms such as "people who menstruate," which Rowling sees as an erosion of women's rights.

Last month, American comedian Dave Chapelle in his Netflix special defended Rowling's comments, prompting a walkout by the streaming company's transgender staff and their allies. In the special, Chapelle declares, "I'm team TERF," referring to the term trans-exclusionary radical feminists, which is used to describe people who see trans rights as not aligned with women's rights.

"There have always been feminists who support trans inclusion, and there's been a vocal minority of people who identify as feminists who view trans inclusion as a step backward for feminist movements. I find this very puzzling, I won't lie," said Travers. "It's a very hateful message."

Many trans people view the singular focus on biological sex as transphobic. Rowling and others who share similar views reject that label.

"My life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it's hateful to say so," the author of the Harry Potter series said in 2020.

Members of trans community 'exhausted'

In an opinion column in the Toronto Star, columnist Rosie DiManno was critical of the use of inclusive language in health care, such as using the term "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women" to acknowledge that trans men and nonbinary people can also get pregnant. Di Manno claimed the adoption of such terms was "trans activism run amok."

In a CBC opinion piece last month, Jessica Triff, a trans woman, shared her view that activism around trans rights was becoming "toxic." In that column, she claimed instances of trans women who haven't medically transitioned using women's spaces, such as gender-specific bathrooms or women's prisons and shelters, have "proven problematic." Critics of that view say such positioning undermines many trans identities and falsely frames trans women as being inherently dangerous to other women when accessing such spaces.

Christian Wright, the founder of the student advocacy group Rainbow Carleton in Ottawa, says while the piece was written by a trans woman, it doesn't mean its rhetoric isn't transphobic.

"Can gay people be homophobic? Yes. Can women be anti-feminist? Yes," Wright said.

"Every trans person is ultimately at the end of the day, an individual. They have their own thoughts, feelings, experiences. Her opinions and her points of view are hers."

Anna Murphy, a trans woman in Calgary and an LGBTQ activist, said seeing transphobic ideas get traction is worrying.

"I'm heartbroken because I recognize what seeing that in the media, or seeing that message or seeing that narrative, does to ... those kids who are, literally, honestly just trying to go out and be welcomed and safe and affirmed in the world," she said.

Murphy says trans and non-binary people already face barriers and that transphobic ideas could erode support and make their lives more difficult.

We're exhausted," said Murphy. "We're exhausted from constantly having to debate our existence. We're exhausted by constantly having to self-advocate in the face of ignorance."

Wright said there was a period of time where it felt like trans rights and visibility in Canada were improving — but that's shifting.

"Maybe we were a bit naive to think that," said Wright.

"Maybe we should have listened to community leaders who were telling us that the fight isn't even close to over."

In an email to CBC News, the Toronto Star's director of communications, Bob Hepburn, wrote: "The Star, like other news organizations, gives its columnist wide latitude to express their opinions."

Hepburn noted that the paper published two columns following DiManno's, including a column by Florence Ashley who is quoted in this article.

About Triff's column, CBC's head of public affairs, Chuck Thompson, said in an email: "This is an opinion piece, and like any of them, we fully acknowledge and respect that not everyone will share the point of view presented."

Gender-affirming health care portrayed as dangerous

Narratives presenting gender transition as dangerous have become more prevalent in international reporting, according to Kinnon MacKinnon, an assistant professor in the school of social work at York University in Toronto and a trans health-care researcher.

Stories of individuals who detransitioned — when a trans person stops a medical transition, or stops identifying as trans — commonly show up in British media, he said. By focusing on the minority of individuals who have detransitioned, particularly as a result of regret about their initial transition, media stories, including the one by W5, imply it's a common phenomenon when, in fact, it's rare.

The W5 story included the perspective of an Ontario man, 20, who had transitioned and found it life-saving but also featured two individuals from the U.K. expressing regret over transitioning.

"The U.K. has been, for a number of years, using the stories of detransition and a very limited sample of detransitioners to invalidate trans identities in a very alarmist, sort of canary-in-the-coal-mine manner," said MacKinnon.

Bell Media, the parent company of CTV News, did not respond to a request for comment by deadline.

MacKinnon, who is currently leading research on the topic, said an analysis of the available data suggests that only around one per cent of people who undergo gender-affirming surgery express regret. MacKinnon says that for some, detransitioning is part of a journey to better understand their gender identity.

An analysis recently published in the peer-reviewed journal LGBT Health of more than 17,000 individuals who reported they had transitioned — which may or may not include surgery — found that around 13 per cent had detransitioned at some point.

The authors noted that, in the majority of cases, approximately 83 per cent, respondents identified external sources for their decision to detransition, including pressure from family and social stigma. Nearly 16 per cent of respondents reported at least one internal driving factor, such as fluctuations in or uncertainty in their gender identity.

Beyond the media, some anti-trans activists also claim that aspects of gender-affirming health-care practices are damaging to young people. For example, the website of one Canadian group claims puberty-blocking drugs, which some young patients may be prescribed to halt puberty-related development, will lead to "sterilization and loss of sexual function and pleasure."

"When you hear, 'People want to sterilize your children,' you get people concerned, but it's not a representation of the truth," Wright said.

According to Trans Care B.C., there are no known irreversible side-effects of puberty blockers. The St. Louis Children's Hospital in Missouri, for example, notes on its information page about puberty blockers that because they are meant to be temporary, they alone should not harm a child's future fertility, but it's possible that hormone therapy may affect fertility.

The consequence of misinformation and anti-trans narratives, says MacKinnon, is that access to gender-affirming health care, including hormones and surgeries that could benefit the well-being of those experiencing gender dysphoria, risks being limited or cut.

New legislation called regressive

Shifts on the political landscape also have members of trans communities on edge.

The Quebec government last month announced Bill 2, which would amend the province's family law and create separate designations for sex and gender identity on official documentation. The bill would also limit changing sex identifiers to those who have medically transitioned.

"The bill outs trans people," said Florence Ashley, a jurist and PhD in bioethics at the University of Toronto.

Ashley says if the bill passes, separate gender identity markers would typically only apply to those who are trans.

"It promotes this idea that trans people aren't really the sex that they claim to be," Ashley said.

The proposed legislation comes in the wake of a Quebec Superior Court decision forcing the province to reword parts of the Civil Code that discriminate against transgender and non-binary individuals.

The court also ruled that non-binary Quebecers must be given the right to change the sex designation on a birth certificate to match their gender identity.

Since announcing Bill 2, Quebec Justice Minister Simon Jolin-Barrette said he is open to finding better solutions.

"There's really a fear of this law passing," said Ashley. "And there's also the sense of like, 'Wow, the government is so disconnected from the realities of trans people that we can't really trust them to protect our rights.'"

Anti-trans voices disproportionately harmful

Ashley says that anti-trans voices have an outsized impact on the transgender community.

"The problem is the people who are inclusive of trans people ... mostly, in practice, have a neutral impact on the lives of trans people," they said.

"The best that they do is not be transphobic, not interfere with the well-being of trans people, whereas the people who are against trans people are very negatively impacting them."

Freedom of expression is important, says Anna Murphy, but it's necessary to hold people accountable if they're promoting harmful ideas.

"Trans women are women; trans men are men," she said.

"If people can just keep that in their minds and go forward with that thought, then, you know, we might get somewhere. Progress takes time, but it should not end with us going back in time."
 
Finally, someone with the teensiest iota of sense.

But you know what is even more problematic? California prisons having inmates of their women-only wards suddenly become pregnant due to trans people (or more likely, dudes that only say they're trannies). Women no longer feeling comfortable in a women-only shelter because now a dude in a bad wig and ill-fitting clothes is hulking about there.

It's madness, and it's no wonder why regular people don't like trannies.

I thought transwomen using their dicks caused crippling ~dysphoria~, but maybe I'm understanding it wrong.
Any rapist is bad, and yeah if you use a transgender label to just invade women's spaces you are just bad. There is a difference between wanting to us a woman's gender role and wanting to invade their space because you can pass as one.
 
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All I'm saying is there is a big difference between wanting to perform the opposite gender's role and wanting to have surgery. They are not equal but most people equate the two.
If you want to "perform the opposite gender's role", knock yourself out. There are male nurses and female truckers. Nobody cares.

But if you feel the need to declare yourself the opposite gender just because you like some things that they like, you are the postmodern version of a die hard traditionalist. "Boys can't play with Barbies, therefore I am not a boy". It's lunatic logic.
 
If you want to "perform the opposite gender's role", knock yourself out. There are male nurses and female truckers. Nobody cares.

But if you feel the need to declare yourself the opposite gender just because you like some things that they like, you are the postmodern version of a die hard traditionalist. "Boys can't play with Barbies, therefore I am not a boy". It's lunatic logic.
Yeah we are just arguing semantics here, my apologies. Anyone who doesn't recognize their biological sex does need some help. Gender markers are naturally different, but sex markers(like IDs as like a Drivers License) should have the Sex and not Gender.
 
Yeah maybe just be happy the debate isn't whether or not to burn you as a witch anymore. Never in history has such an absolutely insufferable group been given so much immunity from their shitty actions. I get so sick of hearing "we're tired of debating our existence", just shut the fuck up. You literally get mass support from the media and government institution, you are the least oppressed group in the western world at the moment.
 
Yeah we are just arguing semantics here, my apologies. Anyone who doesn't recognize their biological sex does need some help. Gender markers are naturally different, but sex markers(like IDs as like a Drivers License) should have the Sex and not Gender.
I think the word gender just needs to be axed entirely. It's a pseudoscientific term created by a pedophile in order to enable his pedophilia. Seriously, I'm not kidding.

The problem is, "sex" is homonymous with...sex. It makes people uncomfortable.

We should call it X/Y Type or something. I don't know. Someone could probably think of something better.
 
The funny thing is that right before I saw this article, I saw a different article claiming that "transphobes" are a tiny minority and that anyone who opposes trans rights is on "the wrong side of history".

"Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.,,"
 
Regarding the "only around one per cent of people who undergo gender-affirming surgery express regret" statement, I found it interesting that this study just analyzes data from 27 other studies, of which only 4 have a low risk of bias. Just thought it was interesting.

Also, the growing number of evil tervs and gender criticals are a direct result of their lunacy. From shutting down women's shelters for not being inclusive to dick girls and the rampant AGP/pedophilic/zoophilic behavior we see on social media, neutral parties are being repelled against their antics.

Maybe at one time they might have been seen as pitiable and harmless mentally-ill people "born in the wrong body", just trying to live a decent life, but more and more their largely narcissistic. predatory, and delusional behavior polarizes those who aren't hell-bent on being woke.

How can you tell the difference between a dysphoric trans woman and a creepy man who says he is a dysphoric trans woman? We can, but they can't because in their movement there are no filters or gates to be kept.
 
Anti-trans sentiments are not new to the country, but several factors make this moment in time fraught, say activists and educators.

"The climate for trans people has improved in the last decade very considerably, but we're definitely starting to feel some of those waves of anti-trans activism that have really taken hold in the United Kingdom and in the United States in recent years,"
I believe that acceptance is going down for trans people, yes. This means that people who were previously accepting or indifferent have changed their view, negatively.

It might have something to do with them dying on the hill of allowing blatant autogynephiles into women's bathrooms, encouraging "self-identification" to the point where literally anyone can claim to be anything, trying to ruin women's sports, forcing their way into battered women's shelters, attempting to enforce literally incorrect views of biology, supporting obviously predatory shit like "drag queen story hour" for young children, and advocating the allowance of convicted rapists into women's prisons - just to name a few problem issues.

Might also have something to do with people being fucking sick of hearing about this disproportionately loud and obnoxious 0.6% of the population, who expect every issue in society to cater to them, and threaten to kill themselves when they don't get their way. Personally, I did not give a shit if someone wanted to be a "trans woman" until it meant accepting all this additional baggage.

Among the concerning messages, say critics, are assertions that trans people who have not undergone transition-related surgery are not real men or women
Shit like this, right here. This is why you're having problems. The simple idea that there be any standards in regards to which transgendered people are legitimate is "transphobia." It's fucking ridiculous, if some MTF has no intentions of taking their meds and having surgery, they rock a huge beard, and they have their dick out in a women's spa - you still have to respect this person's identity!

to push back against inclusive terms such as "people who menstruate,"
People don't want to change their language, the primary way humans express themselves to others, the core of our personality and being, to coddle a tiny percent of people who get extremely offended when someone says "woman" and means it biologically. I don't know how this is hard for you to understand.

Freedom of expression is important, says Anna Murphy, but it's necessary to hold people accountable if they're promoting harmful ideas.
For one, putting the word "but" after "freedom of expression is important" shows me that you do not give two shits about human rights. Secondly, how do you not see that an increasing amount of people are deciding your ideas are the harmful ones, and still let this load of horseshit escape your mouth?

The same freedoms of expression and speech that allow people to criticize you are the ones that let you say you're a woman and crossdress in public. Careful what you wish for when eroding freedoms, given public opinion it may just bite you in the ass.

The biggest harm to your movement is yourselves. Sort your shit out.
 
Now it's no surprise that conservatives who have always been against homosexuality would be against you too. What should be really making you think is the amount of people who are perfectly fine with the LGB but hate the T, including LGB people. I have no problem with the gays. A gay man isn't going to call me a bigot for not wanting to suck his cock.
 
"Every trans person is ultimately at the end of the day, an individual. They have their own thoughts, feelings, experiences. Her opinions and her points of view are hers."
Your trans rights end where your feminine penis begins.

This is the issue for me, autogynephiles accosting and assaulting women who have absolutely no interest in them. I have met and known plenty of transsexuals who are men, who see/believe themselves to be women and are interested in relationships with men only. I don't have an issue with that (some men may though, primarily the objects of their affections). Men who play dress up as women, refuse to transition and hit on real women are almost always sex pests/predators but instead of excluding these deviants, the tranny mafia not only embraces them, they demand we do so as well.

No.
 
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When this fad fucking dies off - and it will, because the very nature of Trooning means it will run itself aground with the force of an airstrike - it will be the people who were legitimately dysphoric and did nothing to cause all of these problems that will, ultimately, be left holding the bag
Real gender dysphoriacs are like any other dysphoriacs, needing CBT for their depression related Obsessive Compulsive Disorders instead of CBT for their private cosmetic surgeries.
 
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