Boaxy
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I was just going to make a reply on the original thread, but I noticed there were other peopled being talked about and I just don't want it to be clusterfucked. So I figured it would be a lot simpler this way.
So I decided to make a new thread after I was being talked about on this thread.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/wikipedia-drama-and-its-spergs-vandals-sockpuppeteers-etc.20273/
I also found out about this post that was talking shit about me as well, but whatever.
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=130615#comments_top
I don't know how to confirm or prove this, just trust me when I say that I am "Boaxy".
On sheer accident, I started to google past usernames and monikers I use on the internet, and was surprised to find this thread basically talking shit about me.
That's fine. You see this stuff a lot on youtube. People getting talked shit to, and they don't even know it. You can make reaction videos, response videos, expose or burn someone. You have that right. Even though I doubt none of you guys are licensed psychotherapists calling people autistic. But moving the fuck on.
But I also have the right to fire back with my side of the ordeal and shit.
I can't refute what I typed and posted, this is correct. However, there is just so much bullshit around this, it's not funny. It's only fair to give my side of the story.
I've been editing Wikipedia since 2006. When I was in my early teens. So I know how Wikipedia works. I am banned from Wikipedia and it is what it is. That doesn't mean I don't know how the site works. But moving on.
Ok, so I'm going to discuss three things.
1.The Sailor Moon issue.
2.My relationship with Loyalmoonie.
3.Misc issues.
1. The Sailor Moon issue.
I have been a fan of Sailor Moon since the 90s when I was in Elementary school and I would come home to watch it when it was on syndication. I would wake up early and stay up late to watch it when it was on cable on Cartoon Network.
I was immediately hooked. I will admit I'm not the biggest anime fan, in fact I don't really care for anime really at all, but that's another issue. But I was, and in some cases still am a big Sailor Moon fan.
As the years went on, I later found out Sailor Moon is an anime series from Japan, and what I saw was an adaptation/dub for the United States/North American viewers. I'll get back to this in a minute.
I've noticed for YEARS, that there were LGBT tags under the Sailor Moon article(s). Which there should be rightfully so. One day, very briefly before my relationship with Loyalmoonie (which I'll get to later as well), I've noticed all the LGBT categories were gone. So I added them again, which they got deleted by Loyalmoonie and there were edit wars and discussions that lead to "No Consensus" so it was difficult.
As we speak, the tags are still not no the article, even though other users say they should be. But moving on, and going back.
North America then, and sadly still does now, has very strict rules as far as children's programming goes. Things such as LGBT issues will be censored, deleted, altered etc.
So as far as North American Sailor Moon viewers, any and all LGBT content was removed and changed from the original Japanese release. So I can see why people would say, "Sailor Moon has no LGBT connection." I can totally see and get it, I do. But I'm afraid it does. The original Japanese release has a big connection LGBT issues. So as Sailor Moon originated in Japan, we have to go by rules of the original Japanese release, and not the adaptation that was aired in North America to where people reading the English speaking Wikipedia might know it from.
Television shows/media franchises on Wikipedia that tackle NOTABLE and SIGNIFICANT LGBT issues, should be tagged with the LGBT categories. So you are probably asking, what is my evidence on there being NOTABLE and SIGNIFICANT LGBT issues.
The show has eight main characters that are lesbian, bisexual, gay or transgender. Five of those eight (SAILOR URANUS, SAILOR NEPTUNE, and the three SAILOR STARLIGHTS) are main Sailor Senshi apart of the main storyline. They all appear on the FINALE of the show. If you search SAILOR MOON CHARACTERS, all of them will show up in a portrait. The other three (ZOICITE, KUNZITE and FISH EYE) are main villains or protagonists that appear very frequently through a season.
With that being said, there are many episodes that deal with these characters LGBT issues. Whether they are apart of the main storyline or not, which in some cases they are.
For example, Fish Eye who is a gay man who was attracted to Tuxedo Mask and didn't know what reaction he was feeling (which was love as he's not human so it was strange to him) felt guilty and remorseful for his villainous actions, asked Sailor Moon to make him human as he is not human. He is merely a fish that is made into a fake human by magic and doesn't experience full emotions as a real human. He and the rest of the members of the Dead Moon Circus were turned into human beings and thus that part of the season ended.
So in that since, LGBT related manga and anime should be under Sailor Moon article(s).
Let me sidetrack and copy what Loyalmoonie posted and reply to that incorrect bullshit.
Um no, I never not once said that shit. That is the main issue with you. Your name should be Loyalassumptions, because all you do is fucking assume shit. Nut let me compose myself. As I have a whole section for you, and I'll get to you later.
To my knowledge, the five inner senshi are all straight girls, you're right. I never not once said that they weren't.
So you agree Neptune and Uranus, Kunzite and Zoicite and the Starlights are LGBT? Nice.
All that other shit is dismissive. The anime did change things from the manga I agree. Naoko Takeuchi I also agree did not have much input on the anime as you think she would. However, I doubt that she wasn't the final protocol before episodes got aired and storylines were changed. She probably wasn't writing the scripts for the episodes, or drawing storyboards, but I'm sure she had some input to her creation. Even if she was eavesdropping or being nosey, and she wasn't making decisions, she's still had a voice in this matter.
Hell, let's play your game. Let's say Naoko Takeuchi had no involvement whatsoever in the anime, (which is incorrect as she did, but let's just play your little game and agree with that shit) the anime still dealt with those issues. Whether the creator originally intended for these plots or whatever is very dismissive, sorry.
They are not minor characters, as I said above.
I never fucking said it was targeted to LGBT people and it's about LGBT empowerment or feminism. I strictly don't give a fuck if it is or isn't. Again, these aren't minor characters or fucking day players or here today gone tomorrow characters. These are for the most part secondary main characters that alter the plot and are very detrimental to the Sailor Moon plot and story. But moving on and going back.
You know who most watches anime with cutesy girls and otaku shit? White American men primarily 18-40. Even though though it is not in your words targeted and geared towards them. It is targeted to Japanese young schoolgirls. I don't give a fuck about who watches the show. I do give a fuck about labeling STORYLINES and PLOTLINES and not FANDOM. I think, no I know, that's where the issue is. You think I'm trying to push some sort of agenda. You can disagree all you want, that's fine. But deep down you know that's what this shit is really about. But moving on, as I said above I have a whole section on you.
I can't refute that. I did get angry and upset yes. I agree.
What I disagree on that you say Wikipedia can't be Politically Correct, when it has to be. Under normal circumstances, who cares whether or not an anime is labeled as LGBT, or Shonen or whatever. But it is wikipedia and these things have to be mentioned I'm afraid. That is being Politically Correct by adding tidbits and things like that.
Yes I did admit to ban evasion and I can't refute that yes. Moving on.
So the LGBT tags are still not the article. There is another user that made a post on the talk page wondering where the LGBT tags are, so it's not just me and I'm thankful for that.
I need to move on now.
2.My relationship with Loyalmoonie.
There are three kinds of people on Wikipedia. People who edit things they enjoy and/or connected to a particular hobby and edit articles based on that and have good expertise. In addition to that, People who wish to make the site run better and work on vandalism and making sure people are following the rules. Finally, there are people who are just assholes and jerks and have vendettas and marks for people whom they do not like on wikipedia, yet using schemes and tricks to become admins or operators on wikipedia.
Loyalmoonie is the third kind. This guy is really something else. I don't know what his problem is, and I know for a fact he's using more than one account/name/avatar to discuss this.
This guy would basically watch every single article I edited and nitpicked at every little thing that he didn't even need to.
Basically if he didn't agree with it, he would undo the edit. I would then bitch as it's like the fucking Twilight Zone and nobody can see what the fuck he's doing and get in trouble and banned for a few days and he would just not understand.
I try to open up consensus and things but it's no use dealing with him.
Get this. (I guess he was unaware that I'm also a reddit user.
Which BTW my reddit handle is r/Jazzyfusion)
But he went to reddit to basically talk shit to me, and I don't know what his deal is. He is now going on other sites such as this one and he is so fucking obsessed with me, and won't quit.
This guy I know doesn't support or agree with the LGBT culture. That's lovely and fine.
As a gay black man, I myself, do not like the LGBT community and do not wish to march in the same line as them.
But this topic still needs to be respected as Wikipedia respects LGBT individuals, and LGBT related articles and discussions, yet he fails to realize this.
This guy is clearly not supportive of liberals and that's fine. I just don't want him to take that out on innocent Wikipedia users. That shit is not right.
So I don't like him, and he doesn't like me, and I'm done with it.
3.Misc issues
I saw a Comedy film/movie called Unfinished Business that came out couple years ago. It's about Vince Vaughn who gets fired by his boss antagonist Sienna Miller. Vince Vaughn then says he's gonna start his own rival business and two of his ex coworkers Tom Wilkinson and Dave Franco quit the company and join his venture to start his business.
Vince Vaughn then meets two characters who are financial investors. James Marsden who is a bad guy who ends up working for Sienna Miller, and Nick Frost character. Who Vince Vaughn befriends later and lets him join their team.
Nick Frost character is very quiet and reserved and as the film goes on, we later find out that he's homosexual after Vince Vaughn follows him into a gay club. It was a very climatic scene to where Nick Frost talks about being depressed because he's not only a Chubby/Obese overweight man, but he's also gay. He ends up becoming a main part of the story and in the end Vince Vaughn is able to run his business with his team.
So I went on the Wikipedia page hoping to see LGBT tags. There were none, so I added them unsourced as it's not original research or something that has to be contested.
Loyalmoonie undid the edits calling them vandalism which is not true. Which lead to all sorts of shit.
When the film is LGBT related based on what I said above.
There are other examples as well, such as the Sailor Moon issue, but ugh. I'm just talking in circles.
=====
So I just wanted to add this. This is just my side of the story and yeah.
So I decided to make a new thread after I was being talked about on this thread.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/wikipedia-drama-and-its-spergs-vandals-sockpuppeteers-etc.20273/
I also found out about this post that was talking shit about me as well, but whatever.
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=130615#comments_top
I don't know how to confirm or prove this, just trust me when I say that I am "Boaxy".
On sheer accident, I started to google past usernames and monikers I use on the internet, and was surprised to find this thread basically talking shit about me.
That's fine. You see this stuff a lot on youtube. People getting talked shit to, and they don't even know it. You can make reaction videos, response videos, expose or burn someone. You have that right. Even though I doubt none of you guys are licensed psychotherapists calling people autistic. But moving the fuck on.
But I also have the right to fire back with my side of the ordeal and shit.
I can't refute what I typed and posted, this is correct. However, there is just so much bullshit around this, it's not funny. It's only fair to give my side of the story.
I've been editing Wikipedia since 2006. When I was in my early teens. So I know how Wikipedia works. I am banned from Wikipedia and it is what it is. That doesn't mean I don't know how the site works. But moving on.
Ok, so I'm going to discuss three things.
1.The Sailor Moon issue.
2.My relationship with Loyalmoonie.
3.Misc issues.
1. The Sailor Moon issue.
I have been a fan of Sailor Moon since the 90s when I was in Elementary school and I would come home to watch it when it was on syndication. I would wake up early and stay up late to watch it when it was on cable on Cartoon Network.
I was immediately hooked. I will admit I'm not the biggest anime fan, in fact I don't really care for anime really at all, but that's another issue. But I was, and in some cases still am a big Sailor Moon fan.
As the years went on, I later found out Sailor Moon is an anime series from Japan, and what I saw was an adaptation/dub for the United States/North American viewers. I'll get back to this in a minute.
I've noticed for YEARS, that there were LGBT tags under the Sailor Moon article(s). Which there should be rightfully so. One day, very briefly before my relationship with Loyalmoonie (which I'll get to later as well), I've noticed all the LGBT categories were gone. So I added them again, which they got deleted by Loyalmoonie and there were edit wars and discussions that lead to "No Consensus" so it was difficult.
As we speak, the tags are still not no the article, even though other users say they should be. But moving on, and going back.
North America then, and sadly still does now, has very strict rules as far as children's programming goes. Things such as LGBT issues will be censored, deleted, altered etc.
So as far as North American Sailor Moon viewers, any and all LGBT content was removed and changed from the original Japanese release. So I can see why people would say, "Sailor Moon has no LGBT connection." I can totally see and get it, I do. But I'm afraid it does. The original Japanese release has a big connection LGBT issues. So as Sailor Moon originated in Japan, we have to go by rules of the original Japanese release, and not the adaptation that was aired in North America to where people reading the English speaking Wikipedia might know it from.
Television shows/media franchises on Wikipedia that tackle NOTABLE and SIGNIFICANT LGBT issues, should be tagged with the LGBT categories. So you are probably asking, what is my evidence on there being NOTABLE and SIGNIFICANT LGBT issues.
The show has eight main characters that are lesbian, bisexual, gay or transgender. Five of those eight (SAILOR URANUS, SAILOR NEPTUNE, and the three SAILOR STARLIGHTS) are main Sailor Senshi apart of the main storyline. They all appear on the FINALE of the show. If you search SAILOR MOON CHARACTERS, all of them will show up in a portrait. The other three (ZOICITE, KUNZITE and FISH EYE) are main villains or protagonists that appear very frequently through a season.
With that being said, there are many episodes that deal with these characters LGBT issues. Whether they are apart of the main storyline or not, which in some cases they are.
For example, Fish Eye who is a gay man who was attracted to Tuxedo Mask and didn't know what reaction he was feeling (which was love as he's not human so it was strange to him) felt guilty and remorseful for his villainous actions, asked Sailor Moon to make him human as he is not human. He is merely a fish that is made into a fake human by magic and doesn't experience full emotions as a real human. He and the rest of the members of the Dead Moon Circus were turned into human beings and thus that part of the season ended.
So in that since, LGBT related manga and anime should be under Sailor Moon article(s).
Let me sidetrack and copy what Loyalmoonie posted and reply to that incorrect bullshit.
Um no, I never not once said that shit. That is the main issue with you. Your name should be Loyalassumptions, because all you do is fucking assume shit. Nut let me compose myself. As I have a whole section for you, and I'll get to you later.
To my knowledge, the five inner senshi are all straight girls, you're right. I never not once said that they weren't.
So you agree Neptune and Uranus, Kunzite and Zoicite and the Starlights are LGBT? Nice.
All that other shit is dismissive. The anime did change things from the manga I agree. Naoko Takeuchi I also agree did not have much input on the anime as you think she would. However, I doubt that she wasn't the final protocol before episodes got aired and storylines were changed. She probably wasn't writing the scripts for the episodes, or drawing storyboards, but I'm sure she had some input to her creation. Even if she was eavesdropping or being nosey, and she wasn't making decisions, she's still had a voice in this matter.
Hell, let's play your game. Let's say Naoko Takeuchi had no involvement whatsoever in the anime, (which is incorrect as she did, but let's just play your little game and agree with that shit) the anime still dealt with those issues. Whether the creator originally intended for these plots or whatever is very dismissive, sorry.
They are not minor characters, as I said above.
I never fucking said it was targeted to LGBT people and it's about LGBT empowerment or feminism. I strictly don't give a fuck if it is or isn't. Again, these aren't minor characters or fucking day players or here today gone tomorrow characters. These are for the most part secondary main characters that alter the plot and are very detrimental to the Sailor Moon plot and story. But moving on and going back.
You know who most watches anime with cutesy girls and otaku shit? White American men primarily 18-40. Even though though it is not in your words targeted and geared towards them. It is targeted to Japanese young schoolgirls. I don't give a fuck about who watches the show. I do give a fuck about labeling STORYLINES and PLOTLINES and not FANDOM. I think, no I know, that's where the issue is. You think I'm trying to push some sort of agenda. You can disagree all you want, that's fine. But deep down you know that's what this shit is really about. But moving on, as I said above I have a whole section on you.
I can't refute that. I did get angry and upset yes. I agree.
What I disagree on that you say Wikipedia can't be Politically Correct, when it has to be. Under normal circumstances, who cares whether or not an anime is labeled as LGBT, or Shonen or whatever. But it is wikipedia and these things have to be mentioned I'm afraid. That is being Politically Correct by adding tidbits and things like that.
Yes I did admit to ban evasion and I can't refute that yes. Moving on.
So the LGBT tags are still not the article. There is another user that made a post on the talk page wondering where the LGBT tags are, so it's not just me and I'm thankful for that.
I need to move on now.
2.My relationship with Loyalmoonie.
There are three kinds of people on Wikipedia. People who edit things they enjoy and/or connected to a particular hobby and edit articles based on that and have good expertise. In addition to that, People who wish to make the site run better and work on vandalism and making sure people are following the rules. Finally, there are people who are just assholes and jerks and have vendettas and marks for people whom they do not like on wikipedia, yet using schemes and tricks to become admins or operators on wikipedia.
Loyalmoonie is the third kind. This guy is really something else. I don't know what his problem is, and I know for a fact he's using more than one account/name/avatar to discuss this.
This guy would basically watch every single article I edited and nitpicked at every little thing that he didn't even need to.
Basically if he didn't agree with it, he would undo the edit. I would then bitch as it's like the fucking Twilight Zone and nobody can see what the fuck he's doing and get in trouble and banned for a few days and he would just not understand.
I try to open up consensus and things but it's no use dealing with him.
Get this. (I guess he was unaware that I'm also a reddit user.
Which BTW my reddit handle is r/Jazzyfusion)
But he went to reddit to basically talk shit to me, and I don't know what his deal is. He is now going on other sites such as this one and he is so fucking obsessed with me, and won't quit.
This guy I know doesn't support or agree with the LGBT culture. That's lovely and fine.
As a gay black man, I myself, do not like the LGBT community and do not wish to march in the same line as them.
But this topic still needs to be respected as Wikipedia respects LGBT individuals, and LGBT related articles and discussions, yet he fails to realize this.
This guy is clearly not supportive of liberals and that's fine. I just don't want him to take that out on innocent Wikipedia users. That shit is not right.
So I don't like him, and he doesn't like me, and I'm done with it.
3.Misc issues
I saw a Comedy film/movie called Unfinished Business that came out couple years ago. It's about Vince Vaughn who gets fired by his boss antagonist Sienna Miller. Vince Vaughn then says he's gonna start his own rival business and two of his ex coworkers Tom Wilkinson and Dave Franco quit the company and join his venture to start his business.
Vince Vaughn then meets two characters who are financial investors. James Marsden who is a bad guy who ends up working for Sienna Miller, and Nick Frost character. Who Vince Vaughn befriends later and lets him join their team.
Nick Frost character is very quiet and reserved and as the film goes on, we later find out that he's homosexual after Vince Vaughn follows him into a gay club. It was a very climatic scene to where Nick Frost talks about being depressed because he's not only a Chubby/Obese overweight man, but he's also gay. He ends up becoming a main part of the story and in the end Vince Vaughn is able to run his business with his team.
So I went on the Wikipedia page hoping to see LGBT tags. There were none, so I added them unsourced as it's not original research or something that has to be contested.
Loyalmoonie undid the edits calling them vandalism which is not true. Which lead to all sorts of shit.
When the film is LGBT related based on what I said above.
There are other examples as well, such as the Sailor Moon issue, but ugh. I'm just talking in circles.
=====
So I just wanted to add this. This is just my side of the story and yeah.
