💰 Grifter Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[John Andrews Stan]

Lost in this is that Boogies Speech to Text has 'Dezi' as 'does he'View attachment 5677349


"Does he"

That’s Ryan’s speech-to-text. Boogie’s messages are in grey, shaman’s in blue. Of course instead of reflexively trying to protect Dezi, Boogie threw her under the bus by telling him where to send the process server. Ryan didn’t even try to bring Dezi into the contractual dispute: Boogie did.

 

[CharcoalChkn]

Even if relationships were your metric of success in life, wouldn't it be defined by having found and married/commonlaw/cohabitate/whatever for a significant period of time? And why 8 anyways? Why not 10, or 6? Well because that's how many he says he's had, and he's a success in his own head.

Wouldn't a lower number be considered more "successful" since you've managed to, I assume, keep one locked down for the rest of your lives/get married.

A higher number indicates, that you are in fact a failure at having a healthy relationship.

 

[BulletSpongeRTR]

Maybe he thinks paying for hookers count as long term relationships

For Booger, a long term relationship is any woman who doesn't bolt on the first dinner date when he starts asking "Are you gonna finish that?"

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Wouldn't a lower number be considered more "successful" since you've managed to, I assume, keep one locked down for the rest of your lives/get married.

A higher number indicates, that you are in fact a failure at having a healthy relationship.

Exactly. If you went on a date with someone who had one long-term relationship you'd probably think nothing of it, whereas if they come out bragging about having eight of them you'd question why none of them worked out, and ultimately realise there's one common factor in all eight of them.

I'm guessing Boogie's logic is that all those experiences made him grow and mature as a human being, which is horseshit since he's a selfish, narcissistic 50 year old lolcow that preys on immature girls and spent his fortune on hookers.

 

[YaBoi]

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Someone points out the obvious about the Dez/Dezi 2.0 resemblance, Boogie addresses it (of course) and says it's mostly a coincidence but also nerdy redheads are his type. Uhhh, so which one is it?

He also claims to have had eight long-term relationships, a figure I find doubtful unless he is counting sugar babies as legitimate relationships. Otherwise can't we count them on one hand? Black girl in HS, Dez 1.0, Dez 2.0, and... I guess the feeder maybe? Who am I missing here? The mystery woman his own age he dated for a while but had zero evidence of, and who didn't even fit his own timeline...?

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Someone comments on this figure, and Boogie comes back with this absolute gem. You read that right guys, if for some reason you haven't been in 8 long term relationships by the time you're 50 then you've 'failed really hard'. He actually sat there and thought this up, decided it sounded good enough to tweet, speech to texted it, and posted it

Even if relationships were your metric of success in life, wouldn't it be defined by having found and married/commonlaw/cohabitate/whatever for a significant period of time? And why 8 anyways? Why not 10, or 6? Well because that's how many he says he's had, and he's a success in his own head.

That's right Steven, a 50 year old divorcee with a nasty escort/sugarbaby habit and a handful of failed relationships, moved in a 20yo bangmaid with talks of giving marriage another shot after swearing it off previously... You're a real success story alright dude!

He is so insufferable. He loves tweets like these because it gives him an excuse to brag about how much pussy he's gotten. Unfortunately for him, he's full of shit and we can use his own words against him to debunk this claim. Let's humor Boogie and pretend we believe some of his stories:

1990-1997: Black girlfriend. Claimed that he and Dani met in high school and that he lost his virginity to her at age 16. Claimed they were in a relationship for 7 years despite no photographic evidence of them as a couple and despite her having an abortion because she got knocked up by her boyfriend in 1993. Remember, we're rolling with Boogie's 7 year claim though. Oh wait, Boogie says they only dated for 4 years here and then spent the next 7 years alone. But that would mean Boogie spent 1994-2001 alone which makes no sense when get to the 2001 part of the post.

1998-2001: I think Boogie claimed to be homeless during these years. No wait, he claimed to be homeless in 1996, my bad. In this tweet, Boogie claims to have been "friends with benefits" with some chick when he was homeless during his mid 20s. Even if true, this doesn't count as a "long term relationship". Either way, this 3 year period would only allow Boogie to have one long term relationship if it happened.

2001-2008: Boogie claimed he became a shut-in for 7 years because his dad died. Well, he doesn't explicitly state that like I thought he did, but you can come to that conclusion when you read those events separately. Not sure how a 587lbs shut-in is meeting women from 2001-2008 when online dating was in it's infancy.

2008-2010: Hit the Youtube lottery. Erm hmm, don't know what happened during these years, but Boogie did write a blog post about a woman in late 2008. He claims she cucked him for his best friend and that they'd been dating for 5 months. Not exactly long term, is it Boogie? I suspect this might be the feeder?? I did find another blog post where he blames a "nervous breakdown" for a girlfriend moving out. The date on that one is unknown however. Boogie also had a habit of trying to impress his blog-goers with how much of an alpha chad he was (nothing has changed).

2010-2017: Met, married and was divorced by Dez 1.0. This is one relationship we can confirm.

2017-2023: Hired a spate of sex workers who he passed off as girlfriends. Longest one to my knowledge was the zoomer whore who lasted from Nov 2021-Apr 2022. You can write these 6 years off completely.

2023-present: Dezi! Everyone's favorite dim-witted stoner with 0 personality. She's probably some kind of sex worker, but we'll have to wait a bit for that to be confirmed.

So as you can see, Boogie has one confirmed long term relationship. If we're being generous, we can count the black girlfriend as another. He only met Dezi in June (according to him...), so under this technicality, she doesn't even count as an LTR. I think Boogie forgets that his life has been so terminally online and he's divulged so many details that you can somewhat effortlessly conjure up a timeline like this if you know what to look for. Would love to know who these other 6 mystery women are!

And as a final note, this just goes to show how out of touch with reality Boogie is. It's like how he thinks spending 7K per month is normal or how pubic hair is where a woman's stomach is. Oh yeah, 8 long term relationships is totally the standard and if you haven't had 8 long term relationships, there's something wrong with you!!!! What a fat, terminally online retard. No Boogie, that isn't the norm. Assuming you're aiming to get married by your early 30's, you'd probably have 3-5 before settling down. Dating someone for a few months doesn't count. Whores do not count. Whatever your arrangement is with Dezi doesn't count. Besides, everyone is different. You might even end up marrying your first girlfriend or boyfriend. Having a large resume of failed long term relationships isn't impressive like you think it is Boogie.

 

[bravosouth]

The case # is legitimate, as confirmed by the Springdale PD. They can't release anything yet as the investigation is ongoing, but it does in fact exist. You can see Ryan's name in the PDF title, which isn't even something I provided in my request.

 

[Victim2988]

I love the fact that whatever he's writing he has to make up a stupid lie. Boogie only had one real longterm relation, Dez 1.0, and she ran away from him with a NDA. The rest are lies (the black one) and whores (Dez 2.0 included). The level of compulsive lying is coming to skizo levels right now.

 

[mlanguishi]

Someone comments on this figure, and Boogie comes back with this absolute gem. You read that right guys, if for some reason you haven't been in 8 long term relationships by the time you're 50 then you've 'failed really hard'. He actually sat there and thought this up, decided it sounded good enough to tweet, speech to texted it, and posted it

That's the thing, I think, that's killed his popularity the most. People don't like hearing this whatsoever. Even if a good looking dude said something like that, other guys would think he's a jerk. I assume he thinks he's being funny, but that is just poison to anyone that would see that.

Dude nobody wants to see a guy like you bragging about all the ass you've gotten. That might work for someone like a Tate that's trying to scam dating advice, at least some. But here? Glad to see him falling to 600k views, maybe the predictions of sub 500k by March or so is a good possibility.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

That's the thing, I think, that's killed his popularity the most. People don't like hearing this whatsoever. Even if a good looking dude said something like that, other guys would think he's a jerk. I assume he thinks he's being funny, but that is just poison to anyone that would see that.

Dude nobody wants to see a guy like you bragging about all the ass you've gotten. That might work for someone like a Tate that's trying to scam dating advice, at least some. But here? Glad to see him falling to 600k views, maybe the predictions of sub 500k by March or so is a good possibility.

It doesn't even make him sound like he's a chad either. It just makes him sound like he's fucking awful to be in a relationship with and can't settle down at 50 years old. It's one thing if you're being honest about it and see it as a mark of shame, but to humbly brag about it and act like it's some big accomplishment?

Dude can't go a day of his life without making himself look like a dumb retard.

 

[sure]

But the written agreement WAS for Chief to eventually pay Boogie (whether or not they were ever evaluated), no? Shaman never got the chance to pay because Boogie reneged and stole the cards back counter to what was agreed upon.

I'm not an American lawyer, but I suspect you can't legally sign agreements to sell things to people contingent on conditions and then back out (especially when none of the conditions have been breached by the other party)?

I'm not a lawyer either, but I imagine it's a dumb enough situation between two retards and some magic cards that a court may not even bother enforcing the agreement, and that's assuming this isn't immediately thrown out. it's a pretty trivial situation - boogie agreed to sell his cards but changed his mind, that's all there is to it. I don't think their "blood oath" is a smoking gun that would either force boogie to sell his cards or land him in legal trouble for choosing to not sell the cards. I hate to side with boogie, but I don't think ryan has much going for him here. at the end of the day it's pretty funny that boogie has a new schizo wreaking havoc in his life though, even more comical that it's the nutjob "shaman" who has been feeding him psychedelics over the past year.

and as @Officer Barbrady already pointed out, boogie is definitely a massive fucking retard for letting this guy leave his house with his tens of thousands of dollars worth of magic cards in the first place. it just goes to show how much of a gullible lazy retard boogie is. think back to when boogie took the advice of mcjuggernuggets to invest in a shitcoin that lost him money - gullible retard. now a voodoo "shaman" promises 100k for his magic collection, boogie agrees and hands them over before even seeing the money - again, gullible retard. this guy cannot produce a single logical thought towards why something may not be such a great idea.

 

[cock gobbler]

The case # is legitimate, as confirmed by the Springdale PD.

This whole thing is stupid and sounds like two kids arguing on the playground, but I really hope this goes somewhere. Even if it just opens Boogie up to further litigation. Would be fucking WILD to see Boogie get fucked right at the end of his unsupervised probation. This is not the good behavior the court asked for, Boogie!

Someone points out the obvious about the Dez/Dezi 2.0 resemblance, Boogie addresses it (of course) and says it's mostly a coincidence but also nerdy redheads are his type. Uhhh, so which one is it?

LMAO. Tell me where the redheads are. All I see are two horse-faced gingers with blonde-ish hair. Redheads tend to have, you know, red/orange hair.
Also have to say I'm sick of girls who wear glasses (or fake glasses) being branded as 'nerdy'. Being a nerd requires brains, of which Dezi has none. OG Dez at least had enough smarts to tard wrangle Boogie and keep his channel coasting, but she's far from a nerd.

Fuck. I stand corrected. Dezi is a nerd.

 

[schizophrenic cat boy]

Reading through this thread makes me very confused as to how to deal with Boogie. I know a couple of covert narcissists who are extremely manipulative and refuse to change for the better in my life, and every time I try to call them out on their behavior, they resort to manipulating mutual friends and acquaintances. Very slippery and slimy people. Is the only way to deal with people (like boogie) to simply let them burn off or should they be called out at every turn? It is very confusing.

 

[bravosouth]

I'm not a lawyer either, but I imagine it's a dumb enough situation between two retards and some magic cards that a court may not even bother enforcing the agreement, and that's assuming this isn't immediately thrown out. it's a pretty trivial situation - boogie agreed to sell his cards but changed his mind, that's all there is to it.

Yeah you do have a great point that it's almost too retarded for a court to seriously consider, but I also can't help but feel like the fact that Boogie apparently recruited a third party to enter the shaman's truck and take the shit back is potentially not going to be good for him somehow? Is it possible that even though it's obvious he will be keeping the cards, could he not have opened himself up to something criminal by the way he went about retrieving them? I'm probably just being too hopeful, also to be totally clear I think the blood part of the whole thing actually takes away legitimacy because it's so fucking cheesy haha.

I feel like I've watched enough COPS to know that if Boogie had called the police to handle this dispute instead of having Glenn retrieve the cards they generally throw their hands up and say 'sorry, civil matter. hash it out in court.', even with all Boogie's proof of ownership they seem very hesitant to actually get involved with stuff like this. I can't imagine they would advise/tolerate going into his vehicle when he wasn't paying attention to retrieve them either? Like I said, maybe I'm just wishful thinking and coping haha.

and as @Officer Barbrady already pointed out, boogie is definitely a massive fucking retard for letting this guy leave his house with his tens of thousands of dollars worth of magic cards in the first place.

While I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he was this retarded, especially in the afterglow of whatever fucking therapy and spiritual work they've been doing together, how amazing would it be if Boogie and Glenn really did try and pull a con on Ryan by over-inflating the cards value? They send him off with a bunch of trash bulk cards and arrange a big evaluation while they hold back the real goods? Almost seems like so retarded a plan as to be right up Boogie's alley. Who knows if Ryan has access to 100k, I've seen and heard crazier things in my life before. Maybe he sold a fuckload of mushrooms over the years, the fact that Boogie even ever signed something seems to indicate that he believed the 100k potentially existed at one point.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

I don’t know what’s so “covert” about Boogie’s narcissism. It’s always been glaringly obvious to me.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Reading through this thread makes me very confused as to how to deal with Boogie. I know a couple of covert narcissists who are extremely manipulative and refuse to change for the better in my life, and every time I try to call them out on their behavior, they resort to manipulating mutual friends and acquaintances. Very slippery and slimy people. Is the only way to deal with people (like boogie) to simply let them burn off or should they be called out at every turn? It is very confusing.

True narcissists like Boogie are a black hole of energy loss. The best (and frankly only) option is to put some distance with them if possible. At the end of the day Boogie only cares about himself and his "friends" are only kept around if they are a net positive for his own interests. He literally tweeted out late in December saying that he wasn't going to invest in people going forward that didn't invest in him and I believe it. He sent Chief Many Shrooms running to reddit spilling the beans on him being a pathological liar, and this is the guy that was his supposed therapist. I can't think of a single person close to Boogie whose life has been bettered knowing Boogie. He has called family rapists, he has given personal details of others in public spaces, he literally mocked his tabletop friends in the Clum documentary, he has chosen to publicly berate people he was once close with (when public opinion sways and they hit harder times), he gives nothing back to these one-sided relationships and as such most of his remaining friends are just shallow grifters off his fame as a fallen YouTuber and lolcow.

You can't and won't fix most of them, you can try but many like Boogie are just too far gone, your choice is either to put some distance or become an accessory to their story where they view themselves as the protagonist and the world revolves around them.

 

[schizophrenic cat boy]

True narcissists like Boogie are a black hole of energy loss. The best (and frankly only) option is to put some distance with them if possible. At the end of the day Boogie only cares about himself and his "friends" are only kept around if they are a net positive for his own interests. He literally tweeted out late in December saying that he wasn't going to invest in people going forward that didn't invest in him and I believe it. He sent Chief Many Shrooms running to reddit spilling the beans on him being a pathological liar, and this is the guy that was his supposed therapist. I can't think of a single person close to Boogie whose life has been bettered knowing Boogie. He has called family rapists, he has given personal details of others in public spaces, he literally mocked his tabletop friends in the Clum documentary, he has chosen to publicly berate people he was once close with (when public opinion sways and they hit harder times), he gives nothing back to these one-sided relationships and as such most of his remaining friends are just shallow grifters off his fame as a fallen YouTuber and lolcow.

You can't and won't fix most of them, you can try but many like Boogie are just too far gone, your choice is either to put some distance or become an accessory to their story where they view themselves as the protagonist and the world revolves around them.

That makes sense. Seems like even if you confront Boogie or any narcissist, he'll just eat away at your strength slowly and turn others to his side simply by lying and sapping their strength. NPD is really sad to see because of the sheer reach of the disorder. Hopefully more people recognize these traits and leave narcissists to their own world.

 

[SwanSwanson]

I hate the fact that despite all of the embarrassments and his obesity this nigga is technically smarter and more successful than I am.

 

[ReasonablyRetarded]

Seems like even if you confront Boogie or any narcissist, he'll just eat away at your strength slowly and turn others to his side simply by lying and sapping their strength.

This going to be long as fuck but I've dealt with enough cases that I think I can shed some decent light on it for anyone who's still relatively in the dark:

It's not just that. If you'd call one out, like boogie has been many times, he'll just roll over and go "I know, I suck, I am so retarded, you're right" while thinking the exact opposite. He's done it time and time again.

NPD cases like boogie are huge fucking cowards and would never ever actually enter a direct (in person) confrontation in ernest because there's 2 constant elements wrestling eachother in that NPD brain, which I'll explain a bit later.
Narcissists never ever self identity as one, they always latch onto a different type of disorder to use that shit as a shield, you can see it time and time again with both Boogie and pretty much any tiktok person that claims to have any imaginable disorder.

They're in this weird limbo where they need any personality disorder selfdiagnosis to be the foundation of their facade, because putting anything they say or do in the context of "this person has NPD", automatically instills doubt and scrutiny on anything they've ever said and done, while at the same time they don't want to appear too incompetent because their ego can't take it.

You can observe this in for example Boogies cycle, but it's a constant with any narc cow.
The self-described "mania" boogie has whenever he's in the "I'm taking W's" stage of his cycle, isn't mania, he just disarms it by calling it that.
It's the need to feed his ego getting the better over the need to keep up the "I'm such a retarded victim" facade. The "depressed" periods of boogies cycle aren't depression, they're the need for the facade outgrowing the need to feed his ego.

The only way that facade prematurely cracks is if someone strikes a particular nerve, if they're between steps in the cycle or if they're confident in getting away with it. In boogies case this would be the Frank Hassle conversation they had post stream confrontation.

 

[Terfatron]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This shit is so fucking retarded.
A kung fu shaman master Indian cheif is out here buying children's play cards and signing contracts in blood all whilst the fat narcissist and the GameStore owner is in kahootz.

There are lies, a police report, drugs and all of it being blasted over the internet because everyone involved is over the age of 35 and terminally online.

HOLY FUCK! We're not even in February yet!

 

[DontEatThat_2.0]

He's even dropped below Amberlynn Reid in monthly views.

Its like they say, the bigger they are the harder they fall and nothing falls faster than viewcounts for two NPD deathfats who are terrible people.

Maybe he thinks paying for hookers count as long term relationships

Its been mentioned a few times but that was his plan all along with hookers and sugar babies. He would entice them with money and gifts, then start putting in the sob stories and manipulation to get them to stay and in the process he would tighten up his wallet. He thought paying for women to be around him was his golden ticket to a TRUE and HONEST relationship. Its WILD how none of that has worked out for him in the slightest, and the fact he still likes to flex this shit turns more people away from him as they grow disgusted.

Is the only way to deal with people (like boogie) to simply let them burn off or should they be called out at every turn?

The easiest way is to just never get involved with them and let them be. Narc fucks like Boogie will use every living thing around them for any thing that can help them, including those poor dogs he keeps around. He will be neglectful of them but once he needs sympathy or to villainse someone he will be sure to remember he has those dogs. His internet presence and social circles do seem to be diminishing with his views and as others have pointed out too, no one wants to deal with Boogie. He could have much more terrible trolls and A-logs like other cows have, but no one wants to bother with dealing with Boogie. With the views hes getting and how every project hes involved with fails or just can never fully launch off the proof is there. Boogie is just that god awful of a human being that no one wants to deal with him and anyone who does ends just regretting it and getting the fuck out of there.