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Holdek said:
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Let's say, that Chris DOES actually accept help and makes "the first step". Now what?

How does he seek help? From where? With what resources? Even if we ignore everything else, we know for a fact that Chris is very unintelligent, driver's license or not.

If he starts reading this forum for advice, how does he sort the good advice from the really dumb ween advice? How will he keep a schedule for the things he needs to do? How does he make sure he actually goes through with that schedule, without his mind wandering off or getting lazy? Remember, most regular people have problems with consistency when it comes to diets and fitness. He would have even more problems with that.
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These resources are available to Chris but he refuses to take advantage of them.
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And how will this low IQ idiot, with almost no experience in dealing with this type of stuff, take advantage of these resources? Do tell.
 
gumbarrel said:
Holdek said:
gumbarrel said:
Let's say, that Chris DOES actually accept help and makes "the first step". Now what?

How does he seek help? From where? With what resources? Even if we ignore everything else, we know for a fact that Chris is very unintelligent, driver's license or not.

If he starts reading this forum for advice, how does he sort the good advice from the really dumb ween advice? How will he keep a schedule for the things he needs to do? How does he make sure he actually goes through with that schedule, without his mind wandering off or getting lazy? Remember, most regular people have problems with consistency when it comes to diets and fitness. He would have even more problems with that.
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These resources are available to Chris but he refuses to take advantage of them.
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And how will this low IQ idiot, with almost no experience in dealing with this type of stuff, take advantage of these resources? Do tell.
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All he has to do is ask for help from any of these sources. Rocky could refer him to a real doctor quite easily I'd bet.

But this will never happen. Chris is Chris after all. He will suffer in misery the rest of his short, nasty life rather then simply ask; "I'm very unhappy and can't change it myself, will you help me?"

No he wants someone to come rescue him and be his fuck-mommy so his life can go on as he wants it too.

The poor bloody bastard...
 
Bernd Lauert said:
RagtimeRoastBeefy said:
the idea being that cases like chris require IRL people to do IRL things and establish an IRL relationship with an extremely irritating and ungrateful person.
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That's pretty much what Chris is saying. Well, trying to say. How a native speaker can mangle his own language to the point of rendering it incomprehensible is beyond me.

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Seriously, UNLESS, I actually, FINALLY, find IN PERSON and fall in love with a pretty or beautiful, and Truly Compassionate and Caring, woman who will Have To make the first move and everything, because after ALL of the emotional damage I have experienced, it will take a Honest and Truthful LOT to win me over.
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That is easy for you to say; your heart does not feel triple-flattened into a void of deepest sadness after losing the only closest friends you had ever before moving on into a failure of an "adulthood". Seriously, UNLESS, I actually, FINALLY, find IN PERSON and fall in love with a pretty or beautiful, and Truly Compassionate and Caring, woman who will Have To make the first move and everything, because after ALL of the emotional damage I have experienced, it will take a Honest and Truthful LOT to win me over. And I just feel total lack of true positivity, so ONLY in person consoling can help me even a smidge.


Well, the lab boys ran this through the CWCtrometer to see what they could find out:

Your sentiments present you no difficulty in expressing them; your heart has not sustained extreme physical trauma, including being crushed on three occasions into an empty vacuum of acute unhappiness, due to the loss of perceived camaraderie and the onset of a misspent maturity.

In all seriousness, I cannot expect to enter into a trusting relationship with a woman unless she is exponentially attractive, considerably warm-hearted, and actually exists as a flesh-and-blood entity. While I must find this woman, she would be obligated to introduce herself to me, without my prompting. From there she will also have to craft the entire relationship around the discipline of my desires.

These statues have been determined in relation to the severe injuries inflicted upon my emotional state. The woman in question must meet my exacting standards in order to gain my trust. As I am entirely bereft of any optimism or hope whatsoever, the only means of soothing my negative emotional state even slightly is by this person manifesting herself in front of me.
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
All he has to do is ask for help from any of these sources. Rocky could refer him to a real doctor quite easily I'd bet.
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What sources? Rocky is a worthless moron.

Besides, didn't he ask her for help to begin wiht? Why the hell do you think he was ever in contact with her? He doesn't comprehend the fact that she is incompetent and useless.
 
Still not sure why Chris keeps horribly high standards. He's not even attractive enough (in ANY meaning of the word) to warrant even one of those factors, let alone a supermodel whiteknight who's willing to do everything... and her reward shall be a selfish manchild who shits himself.

Just saying, women who do possess any of those traits can already do better. :V
 
gumbarrel said:
Why did he visit her in the first place then?
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She told him what he wanted to hear, and seeing as that meant that God said what he wanted to hear that was pretty reasurring for him.
Rocky did bail them out of jail though, and while Bell didn't work pro-bono Rocky set it up somehow, so there's that.
MayMay said:
Still not sure why Chris keeps horribly high standards. He's not even attractive enough (in ANY meaning of the word) to warrant even one of those factors, let alone a supermodel whiteknight who's willing to do everything... and her reward shall be a selfish manchild who shits himself.

Just saying, women who do possess any of those traits can already do better. :V
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See Faeryn.
 
Even if Rocky told him exactly what all of the white knights have been telling him, he wouldn't have listened. He doesn't want to change; he wants someone to wave a magic wand and make all his dreams come true. He was expecting more along the lines of "how to explain my attraction sign so Mary Lee Walsh finally understands" or "how to get the dang dirty trolls to take down that darn ED page."

And remember, anytime someone told him something he didn't like, Barb was there to tell him he was really cool and handsome and smart and everyone else was just jealous (which has become pretty standard stuff to tell bullied kids over the past 20-30 years). I don't think Barb was abusive so much as she thought 1. if she just ignored Chris's problems, he'd grow out of them, and 2. even if he didn't other people should just ignore/forgive anything he did because he's got a ~condition~.
 
Holdek said:
Dude...why you are so insistent on trying to confirm your view on this? It's supposed to work the other way around.
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That's exactly what you've been doing this entire time. *yawn*

You people seem to think that anything that would count as him seeking help is if he specifically went there to change his ways, wich would require the self awareness of him to relize he even has to do that.

He doesn't want to change; he wants someone to wave a magic wand and make all his dreams come true
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Just like little children don't want to change either, but you grab them by their manos and you start slapping them until they get it. Unless you are one of thosre modern parents who don't do that and then complain years later that their son is a worthless dolt.
 
gumbarrel said:
Just like little children don't want to change either, but you grab them by their manos and you start slapping them until they get it. Unless you are one of thosre modern parents who don't do that and then complain years later that their son is a worthless dolt.
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I can't take anything you have to say seriously when you say that, sorry
 
gumbarrel said:
Just like little children don't want to change either, but you grab them by their manos and you start slapping them until they get it. Unless you are one of thosre modern parents who don't do that and then complain years later that their son is a worthless dolt.
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No really, if Chris was on the other end of bobs belt, he may be a bit better behaved.
 
CatParty said:
No really, if Chris was on the other end of bobs belt, he may be a bit better behaved.
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i'm not denying that it works. i'm just saying it's a shit method and "slapping your kids til they get it" is about the worst thing for an autistic kid
 
gumbarrel said:
So.....he wanted her help.
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...on his own ridiculous terms. He didn't want real help. Like the child you suggest he is, he wanted a magic genie to fix his life. He didn't receive a genie. Someone told him he needed to make a change in his life. As a result he threw a retarded tantrum, drafted a letter telling his congregation they are bastards, asked them to spread the letter around, and stopped going - as one would expect from someone as 'effed up as Chris.

I think I see what you're trying to suggest, but correct me if I'm wrong... Chris is absolutely incapable of taking the first step of accepting real help. People should stop pretending he can. Someone has to take authority to force him to accept real help. Nobody sane has that authority, however. Chris is beyond rehabilitation.

I think that authority could come from a correctional officer, if he's put in some kind of custody. That's the only scenario I can see where someone can legally tell Chris what the time of day it is, tell him what he has to do at that time of day, and punish Chris until he eventually complies.
 
GFYS said:
Chris is absolutely incapable of taking the first step of accepting real help. People should stop pretending he can. Someone has to take authority to force him to accept real help.
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That has been my point this entire time. Instead of accepting that Chris does not posses the ability to help himself in any way, they chose to beleive that he totally can, but "chooses not to".

I think what's happening here is, that some people don't like the implications of this idea. It makes Chris a bit too disabled, too retarded. Laughing at someone like that might be a bit too uncomfortable for some. But let's not get in to more armchair psychology *yawn*

Altissimo said:
gumbarrel said:
Just like little children don't want to change either, but you grab them by their manos and you start slapping them until they get it. Unless you are one of those modern parents who don't do that and then complain years later that their son is a worthless dolt.
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I can't take anything you have to say seriously when you say that, sorry
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Um, I am not suggesting beating your children, lol. "Grab them by their manos and slapp them until they get it" isn't to be taken literally *SIGH*

i'm not denying that it works. i'm just saying it's a shit method and "slapping your kids til they get it" is about the worst thing for an autistic kid
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And nobody here think's that's what should be done.
 
Agree with previous posts. Chris doesn't actively choose to live the way he does. Rather Chris is deluded and fucked up enough to be comfortable with how he lives to not see any reason to change his life feeling all his problems are outside his control and will go away when a sweetheart comes.

Mans severely isolated. To make it worse he expects personal relationships to not come with conflict that leads to growth. He spergs out and makes things much worse during conflicts by never accepting responsibility for overstepping boundaries. Chris needs another person in his life who's willing to help him as a full time project. The problem is that Chris thinks this person should be his slave and be obliged to fuck him. This is why I always thought male friend would be good for him. But he hates men lol.

But as I said earlier. It would probably end up a parole officer scenario or a corrections officer relationship or some kinda psychologist he has to see biweekly, maybe even weekly.

Things have to get worse for Chris honestly. He doesn't seek help cause he doesn't know the source of his problems. He doesn't know the source of his problems because he deludes himself out of all responsibility. He deludes himself because his bringing up. Anything anyone shouts at him on the internet is going to be reacted to in the same manner that he's reacted to negative life events:coming up with an alternate reality.
 
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