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A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders.

Lake Ingle, a senior at the university, said he was silenced and punished by IUP Professor Alison Downie for questioning her during a Feb. 28 “Christianity 481: Self, Sin, and Salvation” lecture.

After showing a 15-minute TED Talk by transgender ex-pastor Paula Stone Williams discussing the “reality” of “mansplaining,” “sexism from men,” and “male privilege,” the professor asked the women in the class to share their thoughts. When no women in the class said anything, Ingle spoke up, challenging the professor on biology and the gender wage gap.

He told the class that the official view of biologists is that there are only two genders.

The feminist professor booted him from class and asked him not to come back. She referred him to the public university’s Academic Integrity Board (AIB). Ingle needs to complete the class to graduate at the end of the semester.

“You are barred from attending this class in accordance with the Classroom Disruption policy,” IUP Provost Timothy Moerland told Ingle in a March 2 letter.

Ingle said what the professor did was unconstitutional.

“My professor is violating my First Amendment rights because of the fact that my views and ideology is different from hers,” Ingle told Fox News. “So she took it on herself to silence and embarrass me – bully me – for speaking up in class.”

Downie accused the conservative libertarian student of “disrespectful objection,” “refusal to stop talking out of turn,” “angry outbursts in response to being required to listen to a trans speaker discuss the reality of white male privilege and sexism,” and “disrespectful references to the validity of trans identity and experience.”

Ingle doesn’t see this as a transgender, women’s rights, or wage issue, but rather as free speech and an example of the constant misuse of intellectual power at universities.

“It is my firmest belief that every human being has the freedom and right to identify, dress, and represent oneself as they see fit,” Ingle said. “I think this is all an attempt to silence my views personally because they contradict the ones she pushes in class so evidently.”

Ingle objected to Downie’s “overall abuse” as a professor “indoctrinating” students because she won’t listen to the other side of a controversial argument.

“You can’t say that anecdotal evidence is fact,” Ingle said. “My professor pretty much just tried to shut me up because she was just letting women speak. I brought up the fact that biologists don’t agree that there’s more than two genders and I said the wage gap she’s referring to – 77 cents on the dollar – that even the New York Times debunked that.”

Downie and Ingle had an AIB hearing Friday, with a ruling set for March 19.

If the board rules against Ingle, he won’t graduate in May. Regardless, he plans on someday becoming a professor.

“When you see that kind of misuse of intellectual power, you want to be the person that comes back and does it responsibly and with morals,” Ingle said. “Instead of being the purveyor of your ideology, you can be an educator.”

The university was unable to comment due to student education records, and Downie did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
 
wait, hold the phone. if she's this sensitive, then why is she teaching a class about religion? why did she show a TEDx talk about gender in a class about christianity?

That's how it always is with sjws. There is a textbook on how to hijack courses non-sjws may take and make them all about sjw subject matter that is extremely popular.
 
I had a similar experience at a conference. We were taught that the term refugee was offensive because once the person comes to Canada they are no longer fleeing. She said all migrants and refugees should be called New Canadians. I think the term refugee is useful and unoffensive because it describes a specific reason why someone would come to another country.

You were told. Taught implies useful information was imparted.
 
What is the point of an educational facility if students cannot challenge the doctrine to enrich critical thinking among their peers?

Welcome to adulthood guys.

If you think about it it's a rather fitting prelude to corporate America where to succeed you have to be a mindless obedient drone who never questions anything or thinks outside the box.

One of my friends actually theorized that that's the true agenda of all this anti critical thought stuff in higher education and social justice is just being used as a distraction.
 
I'm split here because the professor sounds like a lunatic but the student sounds like he was an edgelord who deliberately tried to pull /pol/ shit irl purely to annoy people.
That may be but it's also possible that he was a normal student and having to watch a tranny's Ted talk about privilege in a comparative religions course was just the last straw. Imagine taking that course because you were actually interested in what appeared to be the subject matter, and getting that instead. Not only that, but this is a requirement for you to graduate, and you're paying money to be there.

Sometimes a person just gets pissed off and can't hold their tongue any longer.
 
That's how it always is with sjws. There is a textbook on how to hijack courses non-sjws may take and make them all about sjw subject matter that is extremely popular.
There's an entire area of study dedicated to that: critical theory. Teaches you how to make anything at all into a mere tool you can use to push your agenda while acting as a "critic." It's post-modernist, neo-Marxist bullshit.
 
That may be but it's also possible that he was a normal student and having to watch a tranny's Ted talk about privilege in a comparative religions course was just the last straw. Imagine taking that course because you were actually interested in what appeared to be the subject matter, and getting that instead. Not only that, but this is a requirement for you to graduate, and you're paying money to be there.

Sometimes a person just gets pissed off and can't hold their tongue any longer.
Well he should have kept his mouth shut and endured instead of being negative, because when in college, you are there to sit down and listen. if there is a problem, you contact the college police.
 
Well he should have kept his mouth shut and endured instead of being negative, because when in college, you are there to sit down and listen. if there is a problem, you contact the college police.

That's a bunch of bullshit. He's being robbed out of a degree. They fucking stole his money and then let some insane lunatic steal what he'd earned from him because when asked for his opinion, he said what he actually believed.

In real colleges, you're supposed to learn to think. In these shithole colleges, they steal your money and then, instead of teaching you to think, teach you to be a stupid motherfucker too dumb to exist in reality.

You're out of your mind if you think this is why people go to college, or should go to college.
 
That's a bunch of bullshit. He's being robbed out of a degree. They fucking stole his money and then let some insane lunatic steal what he'd earned from him because when asked for his opinion, he said what he actually believed.

In real colleges, you're supposed to learn to think. In these shithole colleges, they steal your money and then, instead of teaching you to think, teach you to be a stupid motherfucker too dumb to exist in reality.

You're out of your mind if you think this is why people go to college, or should go to college.
I'm just parroting to what people think of this.
because I know people who believe what I just posted unironically.
 
All these people saying that you should shut up in the lecture hall, tell the professors what they want to hear and punch your ticket are directly contributing to the degeneration of the modern university. The entire point of a university is to further the quest for the truth. And in the classical setting of education (of which the University is supposed to be), it is beholden upon the students to challenge the teacher. Because if what the teacher is saying cannot withstand a challenge from the student, then the teacher must reevaluate what he or she thinks they know.

University is not supposed to be an extension of high school where you sit at your desk for 8 hours and rote memorize what the Government feels is necessary to consider you a literate citizen. Its supposed to be an open forum of ideas. By doing precisely what is being advised, to just buckle down, write what the professor wants to hear, and wash your hands of it we kill this entire classical form of education dead. You will also kill a small part of your soul dead too. Because if you do it when it doesn't really matter (a stupid college course), then you will do it when it REALLY matters.

It should not be up to euphoric edgelords to be the vanguard of this fight. And if all the shit you post on kiwifarms or /pol/ cannot withstand the rigor of open intellectual challenge in the lecture hall, then maybe it is YOU who needs to reevaluate what you think you know. This works both ways. Silence is affirmation that what you believe is not valid and what the deranged cunt at the front of class is saying is true.
 
All these people saying that you should shut up in the lecture hall, tell the professors what they want to hear and punch your ticket are directly contributing to the degeneration of the modern university. The entire point of a university is to further the quest for the truth. And in the classical setting of education (of which the University is supposed to be), it is beholden upon the students to challenge the teacher. Because if what the teacher is saying cannot withstand a challenge from the student, then the teacher must reevaluate what he or she thinks they know.

University is not supposed to be an extension of high school where you sit at your desk for 8 hours and rote memorize what the Government feels is necessary to consider you a literate citizen. Its supposed to be an open forum of ideas. By doing precisely what is being advised, to just buckle down, write what the professor wants to hear, and wash your hands of it we kill this entire classical form of education dead. You will also kill a small part of your soul dead too. Because if you do it when it doesn't really matter (a stupid college course), then you will do it when it REALLY matters.

It should not be up to euphoric edgelords to be the vanguard of this fight. And if all the shit you post on kiwifarms or /pol/ cannot withstand the rigor of open intellectual challenge in the lecture hall, then maybe it is YOU who needs to reevaluate what you think you know. This works both ways. Silence is affirmation that what you believe is not valid and what the deranged cunt at the front of class is saying is true.
And let's not forget that while anyone with fucking sense is being told to sit down shut up and pander, the only other time colleges get in the news these days is when fragile post modern retards flip out over some trivial shit like black people cooking them fried chicken for dinner during black history month, at which point we learn that, according to the establishment and professors, it is these students moral duty to throw a tantrum over fucking nothing.
 
That may be but it's also possible that he was a normal student and having to watch a tranny's Ted talk about privilege in a comparative religions course was just the last straw. Imagine taking that course because you were actually interested in what appeared to be the subject matter, and getting that instead. Not only that, but this is a requirement for you to graduate, and you're paying money to be there.

Sometimes a person just gets pissed off and can't hold their tongue any longer.


Here's what our local paper had to say, along with the student's account of the episode. While from his point of view, all he did was challenge the speaker, (and notice he actually doesn't call her a freak, or refer to her as a man, either), this comment of his stood out to me:

BEFORE READING THE DOCUMENTS BELOW, please consider the following: I am
someone who has built the reputation of openly voicing my opinion, often in opposition of the
opinions of my Religious Studies instructors. During my time as a Religious Studies major, I
have had professors insult me for opposing views, call me names such as ‘racist’ or ‘sexist’, and
have had my views discredited due my race, gender, and sexual orientation. In short- this is not
the first time an instructor and I have had a disagreement over course material or that I have
objected to the views being pushed on the class.

So while the teacher may be nuttier than squirrel poop, this kid doesn't sound like Mr Innocent either. He sounds like another entitled snowflake who doesn't like it that he had to listen to something that he disagreed with. It sounds like she's not the only professor that has had issues with this kid.

I'm NOT saying students should just have to "sit down and shut up" during a class. But that depends on the circumstance. Not every lesson is a debate session. Sometimes it IS lecture time. We all had those classmates who liked to argue with the professor and annoyed the shit out of the rest of us. Whether it was some fundie who got all butthurt over learning about evolution, or a SJW who didn't want to learn about "dead white men".

(And finally, he needs to learn that the First Amendment really doesn't apply here. "Freedom of Speech" means the government can't punish him for what he says. A professor sure as hell can tell you, "hey, you're not allowed to discuss X in this class". While I absolutely support freedom of speech, his first amendment rights were certainly NOT violated.)
 
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