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I would say skip paying for an editor. It's just a meme that other self published authors repeat. Set the story aside for a month or two then come back to it and you'll have just as much insight as an editor. Formatting you can learn yourself.
Formatting is actually the cheapest part, $150 and my formatting guy sets it up very professionally. If I skimp on an editor that brings me down to roughly (formatting and covers) $650-800 per book, depending on the cover and a few factors (back cover art, formatting art, varying artist prices, etc).
 
Formatting is actually the cheapest part, $150 and my formatting guy sets it up very professionally. If I skimp on an editor that brings me down to roughly (formatting and covers) $650-800 per book, depending on the cover and a few factors (back cover art, formatting art, varying artist prices, etc).
$800? Well, shit, bro, that's credit card money. That's a loan from a good friend money. Hell, I'm almost tempted to loan it to you myself. What do you figure the odds are that you'll make at least that much back on your book in three months?
 
You would think the Old Guard at Marvel would say "Wait a minute. Wasn't Khouri part of the reason we went into bankruptcy in the first place? Why would we let him back in to screw us over again?"

Sana Amanat wouldn't give a shit and more to the point, would hire Khouri purely to spite actual Marvel fans by giving him the Avengers books to control or (even worse) Spider-Man or the X-Books to edit due to her being pissy as fuck that they had to dial down the SJW anti-life propaganda in those two lines so they would actually make money for Marvel to prop up the company killing sales poison that is the SJW-ized Avengers line Amanat wanted to bet the entire fate of the company on. Especially since I'm sure Brevoort's going to be gone in a decade potentially and Amanat needs someone else to do her evil deeds and make it their lives goal at Marvel to be "pissing off" fanboys and "owning them", even if it causes irreversible harm to the company itself.

Also, you also forget that Sana Amanat is Anthony Pedophile Weiner's in-laws. So she sees Khouri's willingness to hire/protect rapists and sexual predators as a plus given how her family protects and supports Anthony Weiner and his sexual predator ways and habit of targeting underaged women. They'd be perfect friends due to their support of sexual predators of the same political views they themselves share and thinking pedophilia is OK when it's their side engaging in it and needs protecting.
 
$800? Well, shit, bro, that's credit card money. That's a loan from a good friend money. Hell, I'm almost tempted to loan it to you myself. What do you figure the odds are that you'll make at least that much back on your book in three months?
All my books on Amazon together I've made like $500 total from February 2019 to today. My most recent book sold 11 copies. I couldn't guarantee anyone any money back in 3 months.
 
All my books on Amazon together I've made like $500 total from February 2019 to today. My most recent book sold 11 copies. I couldn't guarantee anyone any money back in 3 months.
If you can't make back what you're putting in its time to move on and find a real job. If you save your extra money up you can work on books and comics as a side project.

The only reason any of your books were funded and even remotely successful. [And we keep saying this] is because Ethan wanted a token Arab and ordered his paypigs to fund your work.

You made retarded deals with retarded people and trusted the biggest faggot of them all, Ethan Van Sciver. It's time you realize what a piece of shit Ethan is and you will never get what you're owed from his cronies and that Ethans paypigs are HIS paypigs and only simp for him. You were a useful idiot for a short period of time to shield EVS from criticism. That's it.

Also you don't have to protect Donal by censoring his phone number. In fact if you have Ethans phone number you should post it too. No one here is going to call those fags but it will really piss them off. Fuck Ethans privacy, guy is a shitbag and doesn't deserve the courtesy.

Anyway fuck comics bro. You should know by now comicsgate is a fucking SCAM. You had your moment in the limelight and those 15 minutes are over. Be thankful you were a useful enough tard that you got a couple comics out for basically free.

No one cares about Brutas the badass. Its stupid as shit. Just be glad something you wrote made it into print. A lot of guys will never have that happen no matter how hard they try.

You come across as kind of a bitch. Kick them in the nuts by all means but don't ever expect to succeed after you burned all bridges making a deal with the devil [evs] in the first place.

Karma is a bitch and that fag will get his someday, Donal has been exposed as a real life cuck, and CG is a huge failure. These guys live in fear and misery as they should. Dont let them bring you down into their sewer again.
 
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Bro I hope you feel better now that you got that off your chest
 
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I thought it was a great attempt at a Coda for Spider-Man. But it was horribly rushed. Each issue ends on a tease for a cool story that never happens. CAPTAIN AMERICA FIGHTS IN NAM! Oops sorry, We're on to the Symbiote suit now.

It needed to be a full series. Give it 3 issues per story at least. It sold well enough and it desperately needed the room to breathe.
I actually disagree, since it's a Spider-Man story about Spider-Man, I don't have an issue with something like that, though I do think you're right about the 3 issues bit, which could have helped alleviate those issues you had with more details and history. Chip Zdarsky actually wanted to do a maxi-series for the whole Marvel Universe, but was turned down by editors cause that shit would be WAY too ambitious and WAY too risky. So they told him to do Spider-Man first, and now Mark Waid has done the whole History of the Marvel Universe idea. After the series proposal, Chip proposed doing a mini-series for each decade of Spider-Man, much like you did, but that was also turned down by editors, likely because they wanted to get the stories out before the 80th Anniversary of Marvel ended. So, yeah, there's all of that.
 
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And don't forget a lot of Bendis' work ended up in every Spider-Man movie. Usually high school stuff because classic Spider-Man really hits the stride only in college and the school part is lame. So, Oscorp school trip, Peter beats a bully character after which Ben is disappointed from Raimi movies - Bendis. Basketball scene, rephrasing of Great power, training on a construction sight from Amazing - Bendis. Annoying basic fat comic-relief friend baiting memes from MCU - Miles Morales era shit-Bendis.

Bends really shouldn't be shrugged off as a complete hack. Because he might just be a miniature version of the recent years of comicbook industry. Once simple but clever, aiming at action loving teens with it's edge now turned into trying to hard to be artsy and smart family friendly soccer mom.
Raimi's Spider-Man film was in pre-production for over a year (and over a decade of development hell prior to that) before before Bendis' comics came out. Raimi started filming less than a month after Ultimate Spider-Man #1 came out. There were various Spider-Man scrips created throughout 90s, and the final one borrowed some elements from the previous ones. James Cameron's script from early 90s especially - it was used as a base for first draft of Raimi movie's script. Besides, I doubt that a big budget Hollywood film in early 2000s was mining ongoing comics for ideas while in middle of production. What probably happened was that Marvel had access to various scripts, movie concepts, and people from Marvel were consultants on the Raimi's film. Marvel let Bendis take a look at scripts or dictated certain story elements to him. They had Bendis on much tighter leash back then, so he had to play along.
Degree of editorial influence on Bendis is visible if you compare his Marvel and indie work from that time. In early 2000s he worked on his creator owned Powers, and for Marvel on Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil. Powers is full of "Bendisms," while Daredevil and early Spider-Man are restrained. As soon as Bendis became more popular, more and more of his Marvel work started to resemble Powers and what you see Bendis produce today.

In short, Bendis' old Marvel work was good in large part due to editors keeping him in check.
You are definitely right about Bendis' influence on other two film series. Most recent films are obviously lifting elements from Miles Morales comics. Amy Pascal most likely wanted Miles film, but Marvel swapped Morales for Parker and added Tony Stark.

All my books on Amazon together I've made like $500 total from February 2019 to today. My most recent book sold 11 copies. I couldn't guarantee anyone any money back in 3 months.
Honestly, it's best to treat writing as a side gig or a hobby that can get you some beer money once in a while. It is extremely difficult to succeed in any creative industry, even with connections. Amazon alone is very saturated, so it is very difficult to break out. People tend to understate how big role the luck plays in everything. It is much easier if you can draw, since posting some flavor of the month movie, game, or anime fanart on social media is enough to build following that could eventually become your readership (that's what people like Sejic and Mirka Andolfo did). As an aspiring comic writer, best you can do is latch onto an artist and work on something together. Another alternative is to become a blogger, youtuber, or podcaster and build your following that way, but it is still difficult.
 
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Raimi's Spider-Man film was in pre-production for over a year (and over a decade of development hell prior to that) before before Bendis' comics came out. Raimi started filming less than a month after Ultimate Spider-Man #1 came out. There were various Spider-Man scrips created throughout 90s, and the final one borrowed some elements from the previous ones. James Cameron's script from early 90s especially - it was used as a base for first draft of Raimi movie's script. Besides, I doubt that a big budget Hollywood film in early 2000s was mining ongoing comics for ideas while in middle of production. What probably happened was that Marvel had access to various scripts, movie concepts, and people from Marvel were consultants on the Raimi's film. Marvel let Bendis take a look at scripts or dictated certain story elements to him. They had Bendis on much tighter leash back then, so he had to play along.
Degree of editorial influence on Bendis is visible if you compare his Marvel and indie work from that time. In early 2000s he worked on his creator owned Powers, and for Marvel on Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil. Powers is full of "Bendisms," while Daredevil and early Spider-Man are restrained. As soon as Bendis became more popular, more and more of his Marvel work started to resemble Powers and what you see Bendis produce today.

In short, Bendis' old Marvel work was good in large part due to editors keeping him in check.
You are definitely right about Bendis' influence on other two film series. Most recent films are obviously lifting elements from Miles Morales comics. Amy Pascal most likely wanted Miles film, but Marvel swapped Morales for Parker and added Tony Stark.


Honestly, it's best to treat writing as a side gig or a hobby that can get you some beer money once in a while. It is extremely difficult to succeed in any creative industry, even with connections. Amazon alone is very saturated, so it is very difficult to break out. People tend to understate how big role the luck plays in everything. It is much easier if you can draw, since posting some flavor of the month movie, game, or anime fanart on social media is enough to build following that could eventually become your readership (that's what people like Sejic and Mirka Andolfo did). As an aspiring comic writer, best you can do is latch onto an artist and work on something together. Another alternative is to become a blogger, youtuber, or podcaster and build your following that way, but it is still difficult.
I'm with you on that. I'd love to do it full time but it might just be a side gig.
 
Grant Morrison for the most part sucks. I know he has tons of fans and people fawn all over him but he used heavy metal to give big industry names an outlet for their pet projects no one else would touch.
It was a stark deviation from HM of the 80's where the readership was an adult audience and they promoted a lot of adult books. Under Morrison it definitely became more PC and far less risque.
You'll see more T&A in Comicsgate books than modern heavy metal. At one point [I think with Tim Seeley] they tried printing a parody version of the magazine.
How does a magazine that traditionally prints way outside the rules of comics and has relatively low readership make a parody of itself?
Grant Morrison ruined classic Heavy Metal. Gone are the days of actual "dangerous content" and truly "metal" comics and in with SJW pet projects from people who used to like the hard-core stuff HM printed back in the day but are way too scared to do it themselves.

Heavy Metal under Morrison became a trooned out version of itself, scared to take risks on new talent and unwilling to print anything other than basic bitch short comics far from the days of psychedelic and adult content that made them famous.
I quit reading the magazine. The $12 bucks they were asking became too much for what amounts to a watered down Shirley temple for what used to be straight 18 year scotch.

I have collected almost every issue of HM ever printed so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about.
They have always done multiple covers mostly because Heavy Metal readers weren't your average comic reader and tended to order their books through mail-in order forms and not from stores.
Hiring retards like Waid, Cates, and various faggots killed the spirit of the mag. Damned shame.
Cates especially. FFFUUUUUCCCCK Donny Cates.

Some notes though:

Early Heavy Metal (IE pre-Eastman buying it) was kind of crappy when you think about it, in that it's central "draw" was that it licensed a shit ton of Euro-comics in an era where Heavy Metal and to a lesser extent, Epic Magazine, were the ONLY game in town regarding non-2000AD Eurocomics getting an English translation/release in the US. Once Marvel started doing stuff like their Moebius line and other companies began working to produce official English Language translations/selling their stuff directly in the US, Heavy Metal kind of fell apart due to it losing it's chief draw.

And once Eastman bought the magazine, it alternated into a similar situation under Morrison (basically Eastman giving placement in the book to his indie friends) along with explicitly turning the magazine into a vehicle to promote his talentless wife's modeling/acting career and Eastman's post-TMNT work (the bulk of which featured characters based upon his wife that were god-awful). Also, it fell into it's own trap of content: Eastman saw the book as a glorified porno magazine so you had an emphasis on nudity and sex and the expense of story, which was the opposite of the 90s "bad girl" craze which had Maxim level T&A that was not pornographic and a focus on writing, as far as them knowing that there had to be a good story for the books to keep people buying. There is a reason WHY people revile the Eastman era HM; Eastman turned the book into a glorified porno mag and it's chief customer base horny teenagers/college age students who bought into the mythology of the title when under Eastman it was basically Penthouse Comix with a glossier veneer of sophistication.

Morrison was hired to basically take over the book, but he quickly found out that the owners lied their asses off to him (they promised a bumped up budget, both to hire talent and to promote the book and Grant's new direction) but the budget increase never happened nor did them spending money to promote the magazine to comic fans and Morrison's involvement. Had Morrison taken over in the early 00s, he MIGHT have had a deeper pool of talent to draw on friend-wise and who knows, he might have reconciled with Millar and a lot of Millar's stuff like Kickass or Nemesis might have ran in Heavy Metal. Hell, Grant might have run The Filth in Heavy Metal (a mini-series that DC put out that felt exactly like something Heavy Metal might have run in the 80s or 90s), But as it stands, Morrison running Heavy Metal was a fate accompli disaster and made worse with his hiring of Mark Waid as a talent scout for other non HM related Humanoid releases.
 
I doubt that a big budget Hollywood film in early 2000s was mining ongoing comics for ideas while in middle of production. What probably happened was that Marvel had access to various scripts, movie concepts, and people from Marvel were consultants on the Raimi's film.

The full force production began in mid 2001, 2000 was still mostly pre-production not only by that time Bendis' book was released but the script for it was ready even earlier. And I'm not talking about influencing something big, this is literally 2 minute scene. You can shit out two pages of script in one night. And what is so unlikely about realizing that there's not much high school material in Ditko and in your search for high school depiction of SM go for an aggressively advertised current reboot? No one cared about "classics" back then everything cookbook was a risk.

No offense but this reminds me of my old CBR forums days. Whenever a cool to hate figure (usually Quesada or Didio) would do something good the council of neckbearded grease would gather to figure out a way to not count this as something good or theirs
 
Just why is/was Bendis a big deal? I'm not a Marvel reader so I've not come across his stuff there, but just how was anyone excited for his stuff?

Bendis came to fame around 1998-1999 with Powers (one of his first books ever) which is a huge case of "series where the only installment ANYONE remembers is the first, IE Who Killed Retro Girl); the first arc had a bunch of pot shots against John Byrne back when Byrne was at the height of fans hating his guts as this was when Byrne's franchise killing Amazing Spider-Man, Hulk, and Wonder Woman runs were all running at the same time. Ironically, Bendis has a huge obsession boner for Byrne's work and DESPERATELY wants Byrne to collaborate with him, though Byrne is an elephant when it comes to remembering and carrying grudges and refuses to work with Bendis due to those early pot shots he made in WKRG.

Bendis further added to his "street cred" when he quit Todd McFarlane's stealth movie pitch book "Hellspawn" (basically a side story retelling of Spawn with a white guy instead that was done to drum up interest into a film reboot) when McFarlane demanded Bendis insert Miracleman (who Todd had just bought, but not really as everyone later found out) as part of Todd's war with Neil Gaiman over Miracleman and Angela. Bendis quitting Spawn led to Todd firing him from another book Todd put out (Sam And Twitch), which along with Powers, was what got Bendis noticed by comic fans.

The first sign of Bendis being failure and AIDS came with his first major Marvel work: a short run on Daredevil that featured his first butchery of canon and lore and continuity. The story had Frog Man; a joke Spider-Man villain who reformed and who's chief character trait was that he was a great dad who would do ANYTHING to protect his son (who secretly was using his dad's costume to fight crime from time to time), who Bendis decided was an evil incarnate abusive father who tormented and brutalized his son (now about 5-6 years old rather than in his late teens) until Daredevil beat him up and helped Ben Ulrich gain custody of the kid. The story was WIDELY reviled, made worse due to the fact that the Spider-Man editorial staff (unknowingly) commissioned a story for a new anthology Spider-Man book of theirs, at the same time and refused Bendis's demand that the story never see the light of day, due to the fact that it featured Frog Man and his son as they had been prior to Bendis's story. The Bendis frog man story was so reviled that Marvel basically had to declare it non-canon and banned Bendis from referencing it as he got yanked from Daredevil for about a year before being let back onto the book.

In the meantime, Marvel was working on launching their "new universe for casuals" Ultimate line and Quesada pitched and got Bendis the Ultimate Spidey job. It did come with controversies (Bendis demanded Mark Bagley draw the book and had Quesada, by now Editor In Chief, threaten to blackball Bagley if he didn't take the gig). But between the dire nature of the Spidey books under Byrne, Mackie, and JMS's own controversial first year on the book, a huge hit with jaded Spider-Man fans and it had one thing that made it must buy: it was the only book where Mary Jane was allowed to appear as Quesada and JMS embargoed the character and Quesada was plotting to get Kevin Smth to write the story where MJ divorces Peter after he realized JMS had no intention on finalizing the end of the marriage.

This was the ultimate reason WHY Ultimate Spidey got so much praise. It was 100% the MJ/Peter shippers hyping it up and then some because it was the only place MJ was allowed to show up and be with Peter. To the point that once MJ was brought back full time in ASM #50 by JMS,
Bendis stopped pandering to said shippers and broke MJ/Peter up in Ultimate Spidey to forcibly promote his crack ship of Kitty Pryde/Peter. Because Bendis's anti-life ideals (which culminated in Peter dying because that was the only happy ending he could have, given that it was a running subplot that Ultimate Nick Fury was going to kidnap Peter on his 18th birthday and basically make a black ops slave out of him, making him do all sorts of illegal wetworks shit ala the Weapon X project and that they even made a female gendered clone out of Peter, because Ultimate Fury couldn't fucking wait to have Peter killing for him and made a female version of him to do bad shit for him).

But his proper DD/Alias runs were also runs that were full of Bendis getting some pushback with editorial that made him be resentful that he was told "no" and added to him becoming the industry's version of Angelica Pickles. Alias was supposed to be Jessica Drew (the original Spider-Woman) but got vetoed because the first issue would have had Drew getting butt-fucked by Luke Cage and curse (something Tom Brevoort didn't want happening because of his own waifu fetishization of Jessica Drew). He also wanted to kill Ant Man off, even though Scott Lang was heavily being featured in Avengers and defied Geoff Johns/Brevoort by writing Scott's death and being made, against his will, to have to rewrite the following issue when they realized he openly tried to derail Geoff's run on Avengers (which started off the rivalry and Bendis's general desire to fuck up anything and everything Geoff does out of spite and why the VERY FIRST THING he did on Avengers was kill Scott Lang off and nearly starting a war with Disney when they ordered Scott brought back to life after Bendis cockblocked anyone from bringing him back for nearly half a decade, by having Matt Fraction conspire to kill Scott off again in Defenders). Meanwhile, he also tried to kill Kingpin off with a Mary Sue character carrying out a coup against Kingpin as part of Bendis' usual MO of creating original characters who are better than the existing character they are replacing and shitting on the existing character while he's killing them off at the hands of his OC) which pissed off the Spidey editors (since DD and Spidey share Kingpin), forcing him to rewrite his arc to have Kingpin live and ending his run with another OC basically shitting on Kingpin when he sends DD and Kingpin to jail.

By 2004 Bendis was consolidating his behind the scenes and online powers and Brevoort, after a string of flops that basically threatened to cost him his Avengers editorial fiefdom, basically surrendered to Bendis when Bendis demanded to write Avengers and murdered half the cast and irrevocably destroyed Scarlet Witch twice over. His Avengers run also saw Bendis pull a Gamergate style online censorship campaign as his sycophantic legion of online fans basically had hijacked control over nearly ALL of the major comic message boards and made it a bannable offense to say ANYTHING critical about Bendis and his rape of the Avengers and the collatoral damage he inflicted upon the X-Men in House of M.

His Avengers run itself was a paper tiger though as he demanded a huge number of variant cover schemes to artificially inflate his sales numbers, combined with Bendis demanding every single X-Over (which at the time, had been embargoed by Quesada but brought back for Bendis) going forward being Avengers specific to artificially inflate his sales. Ironically this caught up with him as his run kept getting worse and worse and worse and by Secret Invasion, normies started to realize how badly Avengers sucked under Bendis and Marvel had to break and finally start putting out non Bendis written Avengers books to stem the backlash. Even to the point that other writers started standing up to Bendis and the cowed Brevoort; when Bendis tried to destroy the climax of the Abnett/Lanning Marvel Cosmic line by stealing Thanos from them/banning them from using him, since Bendis wanted Thanos to be the "secret weapon" Norman Osborn was using to have his super-villain cabal follow him, they threatened to go public and ruin the big reveal Bendis was going to have, to force Brevoort to take their side and block Bendis. Which Bendis never fucking forgave, as he took over Guardians when they left and shitted all over them and Thanos and even made Marvel put it in his contract, Bendis having the right to fuck over any future writer as far as him having ultimate control and first dibs on ANY character in the Marvel line, other writers using them be damned. Which led, ironically, to the only good thing Slott did in his Spider-Man run as he objected HARD to Bendis wanting Peter Parker to die in Civil War 2 in order to force Marvel to make Miles the only Spider-Man in town and Marvel was forced to side with Slott, given that Slott had his own deals in place predating Bendis' deal with regards to controlling Spidey in exchange for towing the pro-One More Day line with Spidey.

In short, Bendis is a writer who's career is largely based on shitting on John Byrne back when it was fashionable (and kind of deserved) and pandering HARD to the MJ/Peter shippers, but he became a monster in part because he doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself since he first step foot at Marvel and carrying MASSIVE grudges over early instances when editorial rightfully told him "No!" while cultivating a fanbase of white knights who do their best to censor/ban ANYONE who says anything negative about Bendis online.
 

Can someone more autistic than me go through Ethan's impressive self-circle-jerk and get the relevant info from this please?
Watched like 20 minutes after the first 30 min. Can't stomach more CG at this point.
The usual CuckGrift goo about how "it's the end of days" and "every DC lose is automatically our win". Which is funny because back in 2018 CG was all about downsizing the main two as a genuine advice (and I've been wishing for them to cut off crap since 2016) now when it's finally happened it's a failure.

There's also a surprising amount of gloating over fired people not just SJW, as if EVS was fielder himself.

Also a lot ignorance maybe genuine ignorance, maybe fake for laughter, but lame anyway. Like he acts surprised over Harley Quine book being canceled, even tho the book itself admits it's a d-level crap in one of it's """""funny""""" 4th wall brakes. Celebrates Batgirl as if it's America cancellation even though it's been just meh. I guess for CG Batgirl=Gail no matter what.

Could be a joke, but laughs at lettering department being canceled and asks "What you gonna do without them", even thought it the department not letterers

Can't say anything specific about the new management but still acts like no good (keeping the narrative). Forced laughter every 2 mins

All this can be ironic fake ignorance but who really cares? Ether he's stupid or painfully unfunny like Bendis. Pick your poison.
 
Didn't watch. So bored with CG drama. I don't know what else to fill my time with. Open to suggestions.
Just give it a week. Van Sciver can't help himself. Him or one of his dick suckers will tard out in a spectacular fashion.

Until then you should take up a hobby other than comic books. Plenty of stuff to do out there and it doesn't have to be expensive. I've been reading real books and watching a lot of old kung fu movies.
 
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