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I don't want to give you advice Nasser. That's a wasted effort. I just wanted to point out that rather than thinking about what you could do you dwell on reasons you can't do exactly what others did.
I wouldn't take any creative advise from an a-log who is best known for sperging about Ethan's alleged misconducts from 3 years ago.
You don't need to be a creator to give people advises, but with how much liked your rhetoric here is, I wouldn't take any from you.

My Advise:
Nasser stops talking about his creative process here in the main thread, and you stop nagging and a-logging for no goddamn reason.
You newmans are literally killing any momentum this thread has or had.
 
Time for another Comicsgate News Update.

FROM CREATORGO
During the past week we've witnessed the launch of an additional ten comic campaigns listed on CreatorGo bringing the total number listed to 75. Eight of the new entries join our to watch list while a previous book got funded and another failure since the previous update. Albatross Junction Vol 1 escapes the CG glut and managed to get funded while Evermatter: Conscript joins the CG 2021 graveyard.

Previous Failures
The Current Plane Comic #1

Pillowman and Blanketboy Comic-- Second Chance!
KINETIC
Cross Comics coloring book
Melvin #1
Everlasting Survivors Volume 1 Graphic Novel
The Tome Of Reckoning
Chateau Obsidian #3

Updated Failures

EVERMATTER: Conscript

Campaigns to Watch
Wulfsbane- Issue 1
Chaotic Flux issue 3: Relentless
COBALT: Thrashing About
RAPTOR: The Preamble
Glyn in Monster Land

New Campaigns to Watch
Lure
Wahid 2: Dawn of Evil
Hexwood: Dust and Ashes
Demon Hunter Raven 1-3
Nyobi Birthright #2
Siamese trade paperback
Beardzzerker #1: BRZRKR parody comic
Columns of Creation Vol 1: Down to Earth
The Oswald Chronicles: My Time with Clive 1-4
Zener: Master of the Mind Vol 1-2
Rokan
I just went through all of the campaigns to see if I'd promote any of them.

I like ROKAN, COLUMNS OF CREATION, DEMON HUNTER RAVEN, COBALT, and GLYN IN MONSTER LAND. Those are the ones I'd help get funded.

Beardzzerker is also good, and Don Chin is great at parody exploitation comics. He should be running CRACKED magazine. RAPTOR is a very nicely designed character.

In general, though, there are so many amateurish efforts. I don't think it says anything negative about ComicsGate that they fail to get funded. That's probably a good thing. But it's also great that everyone can try.
 
Time for another Comicsgate News Update.

FROM CREATORGO
During the past week we've witnessed the launch of an additional ten comic campaigns listed on CreatorGo bringing the total number listed to 75. Eight of the new entries join our to watch list while a previous book got funded and another failure since the previous update. Albatross Junction Vol 1 escapes the CG glut and managed to get funded while Evermatter: Conscript joins the CG 2021 graveyard.

Previous Failures
The Current Plane Comic #1

Pillowman and Blanketboy Comic-- Second Chance!
KINETIC
Cross Comics coloring book
Melvin #1
Everlasting Survivors Volume 1 Graphic Novel
The Tome Of Reckoning
Chateau Obsidian #3

Updated Failures

EVERMATTER: Conscript

Campaigns to Watch
Wulfsbane- Issue 1
Chaotic Flux issue 3: Relentless
COBALT: Thrashing About
RAPTOR: The Preamble
Glyn in Monster Land

New Campaigns to Watch
Lure
Wahid 2: Dawn of Evil
Hexwood: Dust and Ashes
Demon Hunter Raven 1-3
Nyobi Birthright #2
Siamese trade paperback
Beardzzerker #1: BRZRKR parody comic
Columns of Creation Vol 1: Down to Earth
The Oswald Chronicles: My Time with Clive 1-4
Zener: Master of the Mind Vol 1-2
Rokan

This brings the total number of projects listed on CreatorGo, including the removed failures above, to 82 projects in the first four months of 2021. The health of which will be analyzed below:

Legendary Campaign - $200k+ campaign 0/82 (0%)
Amazing Campaign - $100k+ campaign 0/82 (0%)
Homerun Campaign - 1k backer campaign 5/82 (6.1%)
Great Campaign - $25k campaign 4/82 (4.8%)
Good Campaign - 200% funding goal 34/82 (41.46%)
A-OK Campaign - 100% funding goal 14/82 (17.07%)
Still Funding - campaign still funding 16/82 (19.51%)
Failed - campaigns that have failed 9/82 (10.98%)

$1,456,939 in 2021 funds raised (100%)
$923,920 spent on 2021 campaigns (63.42%)
$533,019 spent on 2020/2019 campaigns (36.58%)

From the above data we can tell that Comicsgaters have poured nearly 1.5 million dollars into crowdfunded comic book campaigns this year, but over a third of that money went into campaigns from previous years. Comicsgate has a failure rate currently of just under 11% which is an increase according to @Crescent Fresh's post here, who points out according to CreatorGo 11/140 (7.86%) projects failed during 2020.

What's more concerning than the failure rate however is that just over 10% of campaigns have cleared the $25k mark to be considered a Great Campaign according to CreatorGo's award system. Equally as concerning is the lack of a six figure campaign and the amount of campaigns that struggle to break 1k backers.

I would compare elements of this phenomena to what is currently occurring to the middle class of western nations. With the $25k-$100k campaign range being absolutely decimated when previously occupied by such books and creators as Ben Henderson/Ravage, Antonio Brice/Brand, Cridious/Detective Dead, Martina Markota/Lady Alchemy, Von Klaus/Monster M.D, Clint Stoker/FATL/Downcast, Liam Gray/Xenotype, Eric Weathers/Battle Brick Road, Cal Jameson/Shinobi Sasquatch, Donal Delay/Brutas, Andrew Huerta/Sovereign, Jeff Hicks/Stealing Solo and many others.

The current decimation of the middle class crowdfund creator could be a result of the misbehavior of the creators who occupy that space. I base this theory off examples that include:
  • Brand, Monster MD, Shinobi Sasquatch, Brutas and Sovereign being years overdue from their initial fulfillment date.
  • Other high profile unfulfilled campaigns like Detective Dead and Lady Alchemy have next to no chance of being fulfilled at all due to mismanagement.
  • Incompetence on behalf of the creator, namely Liam Gray with Xenotype who reportedly printed his book backwards and Jeff Hicks whose Stealing Solo had various production and fulfillment issues.
While many might attempt to lay the blame for this decimation at the feet of others, I believe it is the examples above that are responsible for the current lack of customer confidence in untested creators whom previously easily earned over 25k on their first campaigns. Potential backers may feel that established creators like Frog, Malin and Stoker are a safer bet than some of the new up and comers.

@Mister Dongs and @Crescent Fresh feel free to weigh in with your opinions on this issue?

FROM INDIEGOGO
Our beloved @FROG recently closed Rekt Planet after nearly spending a year open on Indiegogo, the final total from the sequel to Bloodhoney received $1.211,679 from 11,929 backers making it the highest CG funded book of all time beating out it's predecessor Bloodhoney.

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Tim Lim and Mark Pellegrini's third outing of Kamen America launched for a short time only on Indiegogo and has currently raised $22,920 from 542 backers. There is little difference from the campaign previously listed on Kickstarter with the exception on an international package tier of the three books in hardcover which are now made available to Australia, Canada, The United Kingdom and Japan. Tim and Mark's books had previously been US only, however now appear to be experimenting with international shipping to fans overseas.

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The Kamen campaign has just over a week remaining on it's limited opening and offers all books at an affordable $10 each for 64 pages hardcovers.

FROM THE TWITTERVERSE
Jon Malin took some time out from not drawing Graveyard Shift 3 to throw down the gauntlet to unnamed Comicsgate artists who he feels are just phoning it in. The thread was quickly joined by a number of CG artists quick to promote their struggling campaigns and showcase their art. The tweet was later elaborated on in a Bancroft stream which will be featured in our Youtube segment.


Our very own @FROG took some time off to dab on Preston Poulter / @PocketJacks "one last time" after the latter had previously claimed that Frog had lost half his backers from Bloodhoney to Rekt Planet.


Several independent comic creators tweeted out that Narwhal's work on Zack's 499 comic was subpar and that if the mainstream had such art Ya Boi would be quick to criticize it. The thread's were then filled with Narwhal defenders and critics engaging in discussion surrounding the merit of the art and the claims.


Narwhal's art would appear to remain an "acquired taste."

FROM YOUTUBE

DA Talks put out a short video going over the Geeks and Gamers IMDB conspiracy that was first revealed in this thread, whereby IMDB pages were being edited to show that Jeremy from G&G was a producer of various Comicsgate and Fandom Menace Youtube channels. DA points out that the individual responsible was most likely not Jeremy or a Fandom Menace fan and was probably a critic, possibly involved with Rewriting Ripley.

This information would further be extrapolated on in follow up livestream with his cohost @VIkkiVerse. The stream would later be joined by Darth Lunga, @TESTEFY-HD, Saggy Melonz and a brief appearance by Weeb Wars lolcow Spirit Junior.

Frog himself would efap DA Talks video in a livestream titled: IMDB, easy as 1 2 3 and offer his opinions and thoughts on the situation.

Michael Bancroft hosted Jon Malin and Mark Poulton to shill for the variant cover campaign of Graveyard Shift 3. Jon Malin went on to explain his cryptic tweet above referring to several artists he had hired to work on Graveyard Shift 3 submitting sub par work.

Comics by Perch goes over why having the Red Skull becoming a Jordan B Petersonesque online blogger is dumb and demeaning to the Captain America mythos as a whole.

Preston Poulter makes a complete ass out of himself as he reports that the "Fandom Menace v Comicsgate clout war" has subsided to little real effect. This was a narrative Preston alone was pushing due to one lone Fandom Menace nobody calling out Frog for having opinions on the Snyder v Geeks and Gamers drama. Preston continues to throw journalistic integrity out of the window as he lays Warcampaign's harassment of others at Frog's feet while giving Warcampaign themselves a pass. In a final act of desperation Preston claims Frog having a Kiwi Farms account is indicative of suspect behavior, but glosses over the fact he himself and several of his "Preston Knights" also have Kiwi Farms accounts for the purpose of astroturfing the thread with anti-Comicsgate rhetoric.

And finally Yellowflash reported on the recent decision by Dynamite Entertainment for force artist Aaron Lopresti to censor the cover of an upcoming James Bond comic called James Bond: Agent of Spectre. The cover had previously featured scantily clad women, which was later edited to avoid portraying James Bond as "a sexist character."

Well that's our news update for today, overall Comicsgate is deathly quiet right now. Many of the videos featured are days old and it was a struggle to find anything worthy of reporting on. The biggest development currently is probably the Red Skull/Jordan Peterson story which was reported on earlier in the thread. It (hopefully) has the makings of developing into a giant shitshow. A savvy internet Youtuber, with a connection to Jordan Peterson, might make use of this opportunity to promote Comicsgate and the problems with the mainstream comic book industry to Peterson's large audience while this development gains momentum hint hint @FROG nudge nudge.

As always take care and stay safe out there. :bluelabel:
I largely agree with your perspective there.

Although, while I’m certainly not laying all the blame here on him and him alone, (many different factors and creators lead to this point, as you said) I do want to “highlight” that Ya Boi Zack is sort of a microcosm of the issues currently going on with CG as a whole, not even getting into the lawsuit that has no doubt turned a lot of people off.

Long-overdue books with few progress updates? Constantly making new campaigns before your last few are even close to being fulfilled? Sub-standard art and story for an especially premium price? All of those can now be applied to Ya Boi. I can see why people would be particularly apprehensive about backing more CG comics if they’ve been burned in the last year by one of his campaigns.

Also, looking at those campaigns you’ve listed, I call four of them incredibly likely to fund: Cobalt, Beardzzerker, Siamese, and Rokan. Cobalt itself is only a pledge or so away.

Out of the others, Raptor and Zener are basically DOA with only a few hours/days left and a lot remaining to fund. Oswald is a weird case, as it needs so little left, however I’ve been tracking its progress and it’s moving at such a glacial rate that I wouldn’t be shocked at all if it doesn’t quite make it.

A few of the others are a bit early to make a call on, however their momentum/asking price leads me to expect that we’ll soon have potentially doubled the CG failure rate before these projects are over.

Finally, it’s worth noting that, for some reason, KA3 has been added to the CG tracker. The actual number of CG projects listed there should be lowered by one until it’s removed, so right now it’s 81 projects total.
 
You newmans are literally killing any momentum this thread has or had.

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I would compare elements of this phenomena to what is currently occurring to the middle class of western nations. With the $25k-$100k campaign range being absolutely decimated when previously occupied by such books and creators as Ben Henderson/Ravage, Antonio Brice/Brand, Cridious/Detective Dead, Martina Markota/Lady Alchemy, Von Klaus/Monster M.D, Clint Stoker/FATL/Downcast, Liam Gray/Xenotype, Eric Weathers/Battle Brick Road, Cal Jameson/Shinobi Sasquatch, Donal Delay/Brutas, Andrew Huerta/Sovereign, Jeff Hicks/Stealing Solo and many others.

The current decimation of the middle class crowdfund creator could be a result of the misbehavior of the creators who occupy that space. I base this theory off examples that include:
  • Brand, Monster MD, Shinobi Sasquatch, Brutas and Sovereign being years overdue from their initial fulfillment date.
  • Other high profile unfulfilled campaigns like Detective Dead and Lady Alchemy have next to no chance of being fulfilled at all due to mismanagement.
  • Incompetence on behalf of the creator, namely Liam Gray with Xenotype who reportedly printed his book backwards and Jeff Hicks whose Stealing Solo had various production and fulfillment issues.
While many might attempt to lay the blame for this decimation at the feet of others, I believe it is the examples above that are responsible for the current lack of customer confidence in untested creators whom previously easily earned over 25k on their first campaigns. Potential backers may feel that established creators like Frog, Malin and Stoker are a safer bet than some of the new up and comers.

@Mister Dongs and @Crescent Fresh feel free to weigh in with your opinions on this issue?
It's difficult to say where the campaigns launched early this year will be at the end of the year given how long most CG campaigns go on for. I can say for the past 2 years, roughly half of the crowdfunds launched in Comicsgate received less than $10K in funding.

In 2019, 48 out of 101 CG projects have received under $10K in funding (47%).
In 2020, 72 out of 140 have received under $10K in funding. (52%)
In 2021 (so far), 63 out of 81 campaigns have received under $10K in funding (78%)

So far as to the state of consumer participation within Comicsgate - it's actually on the upswing:

January 2021 total: $310,573.41
February 2021 total: $343,187.70
March 2021 total: $488,023.53

March:
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I went ahead and removed the Stealing Solo, Kamen America 3 and Shadowbinders reprints from the monthly tally, but so far in 2021 there seems to be a $40,000 increase revenue per month, plus in March the addition of Jon Malin's Graveyard Shift variant cover (which should be correctly interpreted as Malin reopening the GY3 campaign after a two-month blitz with no InDemand, along with Kenneth Rocafort's Groken who has also opted out of going into InDemand. Given that Rocafort was the one who drew the GY3 variant, I'll be expecting a Groken Variant campaign before fulfillment as part of what looks to be a novel crowdfunding approach from the usual "let it sit in InDemand for 14 months" tactic employed by CG creators..

In any case, this is not necessarily a positive forecast: while there is measurable growth in 2021 so far, even if revenue went up an average of 40,000 per month every month for the remainder of 2021, that would not be enough to match the total gross of 2020. And if the crowdfunding economic model is set along a seasonal boom/bust cycle (as is common wisdom) and January 2022 will return to the lull that January 2021 was in, then consistent monthly gains would not appear to be possible.

However, I would argue that financially, Comicsgate instead operates on the Pareto Pinciple, which I went into detail here and specifically the 80-20 rule, which isn't locked into an annual cycle. So far, the only "top fifth" of CG creators that have run campaigns this year are Graham Nolan (who has shown growth), Jon Malin (who is technically running the most successful variant cover campaign in CG) and Kenneth Rocafort's debut, which should hit six figures if he launches a variant cover campaign. And, debatably at this point, Richard C Meyer. It's difficult to estimate the health of the overall "movement" when so many of the minority that command a majority of the fundraising are late on their current commitments with no set plans to take on new ones, or if they'll have the same success their debut campaigns did.

As for the 53 or so campaigns out right now that are below 10K, I'm just going to point to the spreadsheet I posted earlier and note that of the people who secured the most funding in March, the only uniting thread connecting people at the top is that they're either people who have taken the effort to cultivate their own independent followings (Clownfish, WSBS, JDA, Arachna, Adam Friended, etc), have decades of mainstream credentials pedigree (Rocafort, Nolan, Shelby Robertson), or had the good fortune to have their talent noticed.
 
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It's difficult to say where the campaigns launched early this year will be at the end of the year given how long most CG campaigns go on for. I can say for the past 2 years, roughly half of the crowdfunds launched in Comicsgate received less than $10K in funding.

In 2019, 48 out of 101 CG projects have received under $10K in funding (47%).
In 2020, 72 out of 140 have received under $10K in funding. (52%)
In 2021 (so far), 63 out of 81 campaigns have received under $10K in funding (78%)

So far as to the state of consumer participation within Comicsgate - it's actually on the upswing:

January 2021 total: $310,573.41
February 2021 total: $343,187.70
March 2021 total: $488,023.53

March:
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I went ahead and removed the Stealing Solo, Kamen America 3 and Shadowbinders reprints from the monthly tally, but so far in 2021 there seems to be a $40,000 increase revenue per month, plus in March the addition of Jon Malin's Graveyard Shift variant cover (which should be correctly interpreted as Malin reopening the GY3 campaign after a two-month blitz with no InDemand, along with Kenneth Rocafort's Groken who has also opted out of going into InDemand. Given that Rocafort was the one who drew the GY3 variant, I'll be expecting a Groken Variant campaign before fulfillment as part of what looks to be a novel crowdfunding approach from the usual "let it sit in InDemand for 14 months" tactic employed by CG creators..

In any case, this is not necessarily a positive forecast: while there is measurable growth in 2021 so far, even if revenue went up an average of 40,000 per month every month for the remainder of 2021, that would not be enough to match the total gross of 2020. And if the crowdfunding economic model is set along a seasonal boom/bust cycle (as is common wisdom) and January 2022 will return to the lull that January 2021 was in, then consistent monthly gains would not appear to be possible.

However, I would argue that financially, Comicsgate instead operates on the Pareto Pinciple, which I went into detail here and specifically the 80-20 rule, which isn't locked into an annual cycle. So far, the only "top fifth" of CG creators that have run campaigns this year are Graham Nolan (who has shown growth), Jon Malin (who is technically running the most successful variant cover campaign in CG) and Kenneth Rocafort's debut, which should hit six figures if he launches a variant cover campaign. And, debatably at this point, Richard C Meyer. It's difficult to estimate the health of the overall "movement" when so many of the minority that command a majority of the fundraising are late on their current commitments with no set plans to take on new ones, or if they'll have the same success their debut campaigns did.

As for the 53 or so campaigns out right now that are below 10K, I'm just going to point to the spreadsheet I posted earlier and note that of the people who secured the most funding in March, the only uniting thread connecting people at the top is that they're either people who have taken the effort to cultivate their own independent followings (Clownfish, WSBS, JDA, Arachna, Adam Friended, etc), have decades of mainstream credentials pedigree (Rocafort, Nolan, Shelby Robertson), or had the good fortune to have their talent noticed.
I think what is happening with Zack and maybe some others is that the grind of fulfillment has either shocked them or just worn them down. It seems like a LOT of work for, in some cases, not a lot of money. One may have a passion for comics, but stuffing and mailing 1,000 comics has got to be pure drudgery. Eventually you will ask yourself the question "why am I doing this?"

I'm not necessarily talking about the one-idea dilletantes like Antonio Brice or Martina. I'm talking mostly about the artists cut or soon to be cut from the mainstream.

I think eventually "CG" will be ALLCAPS. EVS may use crowdfunding for revenue, but if creators can create without having to worry about the bullshit eventually they're going to come in (if he wants them). Today in fact he was talking about building a warehouse eventually. That may be for his stuff but if the Starblades, Snowman, etc. experiments are beneficial to all I think he'd be a fool not to keep at it.

I wonder if there was some opportunity for more synergy with Pete Simetti, who seems like a real good guy. So many slimebags have come and gone from CG but he took the slings and arrows without being CG until fairly recently.
 
I think what is happening with Zack and maybe some others is that the grind of fulfillment has either shocked them or just worn them down. It seems like a LOT of work for, in some cases, not a lot of money. One may have a passion for comics, but stuffing and mailing 1,000 comics has got to be pure drudgery. Eventually you will ask yourself the question "why am I doing this?"

I'm not necessarily talking about the one-idea dilletantes like Antonio Brice or Martina. I'm talking mostly about the artists cut or soon to be cut from the mainstream.

I think eventually "CG" will be ALLCAPS. EVS may use crowdfunding for revenue, but if creators can create without having to worry about the bullshit eventually they're going to come in (if he wants them). Today in fact he was talking about building a warehouse eventually. That may be for his stuff but if the Starblades, Snowman, etc. experiments are beneficial to all I think he'd be a fool not to keep at it.

I wonder if there was some opportunity for more synergy with Pete Simetti, who seems like a real good guy. So many slimebags have come and gone from CG but he took the slings and arrows without being CG until fairly recently.
Everything is happening as it should. Slowly.

Imagine if we'd gotten into business together in 2018, like many people wanted. It would have been a disaster.

But three years later, we're finding out who has staying power, and who is sincere and passionate about this indie comics movement.

I get a headache thinking about CG just melting into ALL CAPS. Indie creators should stand on their own. I do like Pete Simeti. It'd be fun to work with him somehow.
 
the thing was, that they were available throughout the whole thirty day campaign, then when the thirty days was ending suddenly they were going like hotcakes and it became almost impossible to get one.
The campaign launched at a bad time for me to drop $200. By the time I was able to appropriate the funds, it was too late. @FROG is famous for not personally consulting with me on my comics budget before launching his campaigns. I've sadly learned to live with this reality.
 
Everything is happening as it should. Slowly.

Imagine if we'd gotten into business together in 2018, like many people wanted. It would have been a disaster.

But three years later, we're finding out who has staying power, and who is sincere and passionate about this indie comics movement.

I get a headache thinking about CG just melting into ALL CAPS. Indie creators should stand on their own. I do like Pete Simeti. It'd be fun to work with him somehow.
I guess what was implying that the creators who have shown they can stand on their own MAY end up at ALLCAPS some day.

As for Pete...What about a sort of "extended universe" for Cyberfrog with Alterna? There's got to be stories of the VZZPZZ invading other worlds. Other people could write some Sci-fi stories set in it with you having some broad editorial sayso?
 
I guess what was implying that the creators who have shown they can stand on their own MAY end up at ALLCAPS some day.

As for Pete...What about a sort of "extended universe" for Cyberfrog with Alterna? There's got to be stories of the VZZPZZ invading other worlds. Other people could write some Sci-fi stories set in it with you having some broad editorial sayso?
I'd be okay with building a shared universe that exists in CyberFrog's world, post invasion. Fighting Vyzpzz, surviving, etc. It'd be fun.
 
This thread kinda reminds me about the time, years ago, when someone tried to make #metalgate a thing. Some dude in some publication said "hey maybe calling people faggot isn't cool", so the Gamergate spergs tried to start #metalgate without realizing that metalheads are a very chilled out lot.
 
This thread kinda reminds me about the time, years ago, when someone tried to make #metalgate a thing. Some dude in some publication said "hey maybe calling people faggot isn't cool", so the Gamergate spergs tried to start #metalgate without realizing that metalheads are a very chilled out lot.
I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. You seem to be implying that the comics industry is cool and most of the fans haven't been ACTIVELY CHASED AWAY by the people who have taken it over.

I agree, pre-2016 it sounds a bit conspiratorial on the face of it, until you realize that the freefalling sales numbers and daily interactions prove it to be truthful.

In fact the handful of anti-CG'ers in here would probably be forced to admit that the industry has done just what I said. And like or hate CG, unlike other "Gates" they are actively trying to offer a concrete alternative rather than just "sperging" . With admittedly mixed results.
 
You newmans are literally killing any momentum this thread has or had.
Sometimes it feels like the Newmans are the real cows here...

This thread kinda reminds me about the time, years ago, when someone tried to make #metalgate a thing. Some dude in some publication said "hey maybe calling people faggot isn't cool", so the Gamergate spergs tried to start #metalgate without realizing that metalheads are a very chilled out lot.
There is some tension especially when it comes to Black Metal, when wokies complain about the nazi ties (and, if we cancel anybody who ever played in a band with someone from a nazi group, the entire scene is canceled...)

Oh, and when I say nazis, I mean literal people convicted for hatecrimes, like Burzum, not Trump supporters)
 
In fact the handful of anti-CG'ers in here would probably be forced to admit that the industry has done just what I said.

Why would it be forced?

Sometimes it feels like the Newmans are the real cows here...

Dude, all this after keeping my head down and even getting an unexpected 'winner' from Ethan there. I was feeling all groovy and then you guys just upped and harshed my mellow, man.
 
Several weeks ago I mentioned I was working on a name and shame list for Comicsgate, CG adjacent and assorted other crowdfunded comic book creators who are overdue on their campaigns. This list isn't perfect but it took weeks to gather the relevant information on all these books. So without further adieu, in order from most overdue to least, I present:

The Crowdfund Name and Shame List

PROJECT: BRAND BY ANTONIO BRICE AND CANAAN WHITE
CREATOR: Antonio Brice
RAISED: $78,031 from 2,488 backers
FUNDED: September 25th 2018
DUE: January 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Now
OVERDUE: 27 months
NOTES:
Comicsgate's original diversity hire who proves why such initiatives are fucking retarded. CG's house nigger has been fulfilling his book for the past year and there are still hundreds of international backers who have not received their books in the comment section. The way Antonio responds to criticism is absolutely appalling and he deserves every drop in dollars and backers. The subhuman, obese retard somehow fucked up what should have been a golden ticket that other Comicsgate creators would have killed for and was the direct cause of Canaan White leaving Comicsgate for greener pastures. Now since Antonio realized his stupid fucking burger comic is a dud and Canaan has rightfully abandoned him, he's hanging around Doug TenNapel like a bad smell. If this tree-swinger comes crawling back to you @FROG pull out that whip and in the words of Johnny Rebel "send that nigger back!"
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PROJECT: LITTLE GIRL LETHAL
CREATOR: Slick Jimmy
RAISED: $26,934 from 729 backers
FUNDED: December 30th 2018
DUE: February 2019
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 26 months
NOTES:
Slick Jimmy was a Comicsgater who turned anti-CG when Crypto Comics and Panboy had their falling out. According to his updates he had to re-letter the book and in his last update 7 months ago he claimed his mother passed away. His comment section is filled with backers asking for an update which have gone unanswered.

PROJECT: JUNGLE COMICS #1
CREATOR: Ben Dunn
RAISED: $24,488 from 1,192 backers
FUNDED: July 8th 2018
DUE: February 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Partially
OVERDUE: 26 months
NOTES:
Technically tied for our second most overdue campaign, but due to being partially fulfilled I'll let Little Girl Lethal take the number two spot. Benn Dunn of Antarctic Press teamed up with Chuck Dixon and Kelsey Shannon / @Kelsey to bring you a Tarzan tribute comic. The book went into comic book stores before being fulfilled and to date the comment section is still filled with backers who have not received their book or received unsigned books.

PROJECT: AGENDA! SUPERHEROES WITH A PURPOSE
CREATOR: James Hudnall (deceased)
RAISED: $13,906 from 423 backers
FUNDED: December 23rd 2018
DUE: February 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 26 months
NOTES:
The only creator on this list with a valid excuse, according to the comment section he passed away two years ago. RIP.

PROJECT: RED ROOSTER: GOLDEN AGE
CREATOR: Mitch & Elizabeth Breitweiser
RAISED: $197,434 from 3,582 backers
FUNDED: August 24th 2018
DUE: March 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Fulfilling now
OVERDUE: 25 months
NOTES:
This one needs no explanation given it is the fourth most overdue book and the most high profile overdue book. According to the most recent update, 1000 packages of Red Rooster have finally been shipped.

PROJECT: DETECTIVE DEAD: CRIMSON MOON
CREATOR: Antonio Malpica / Cridious
RAISED: $38,855 from 1,153 backers
FUNDED: October 8th 2018
DUE: April 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 24 months
NOTES:
Not much to say about this one, it's never coming out. Cridious misused his backer's money and it's gone, D E D.

PROJECT: CONFLICT CLAWS OUT
CREATOR: James Dean Anderson
RAISED: $10,575 from 259 backers
FUNDED: December 19th 2018
DUE: April 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 24 months
NOTE:
A smaller creator who used to associate with Ben Henderson / Ravage: Kill All Men, he also appeared on Warcampaign's show occasionally. His last update was 9 months ago and is something else, I'll spoiler it below you should definitely give it a read, his comment section is full of people who asking for an update.
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PROJECT: BRUTAS THE BADASS #1
CREATOR: Donal DeLay
RAISED: $39,051 from 1,293 backers
FUNDED: October 15th 2018
DUE: April 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Fulfilling now
OVERDUE: 24 months
NOTES:
While tied with Detective Dead and Conflict Claws out, I moved Donal / @Fathead down the list since he appears to be fulfilling now. Better late than never I guess.

PROJECT: SOVEREIGN
CREATOR: Andrew Huerta
RAISED: $40,065 from 1,199
FUNDED: January 1st 2019
DUE: May 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 23 months
NOTES:
Andrew Huerta was one of the last creators carrying water for Warcampaign before he saw the writing on the wall and fucked off to work for Wizard of the Coasts #CGONLY. He posted an art update 1 month ago, but according to the comment section the backers aren't having any of it.

PROJECT: THE KNOX
CREATOR: a.p.anderson89
RAISED: $2,215 from 62 backers
FUNDED: Unknown (flexible goal) Nov 2018 - Jan 2019
DUE: May 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 23 months
NOTES:
According to the last update 9 months ago the creator promised four books with a flexible goal, meaning he was obligated to fulfil four books with just over 2 grand.

PROJECT: THE GOOD KNIGHT: NIGHTMARE REALM #1
CREATOR: Crystal McGhee
RAISED: $16,325 from 707 backers
FUNDED: February 15th 2019
DUE: July 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 21 months
NOTES:
According to the latest update 1 month ago, the creator will begin fulfillment on April 30th this year.

PROJECT: LADY ALCHEMY GRAPHIC NOVEL / LADY ALCHEMY: MUTUS LIBER GRAPHIC NOVEL
CREATOR: Martina Markota
RAISED: $54,165 from 1,368 backers
FUNDED: November 2nd 2018
DUE: August 2019
STATUS: Taken down by Indiegogo for review
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 20 months
NOTES:
Basically another Cridious situation, Martina's problems have been discussed previously however the campaign ran into trouble when the former art team sued her.

PROJECT: ASGARD CHAPTER 1
CREATOR: Charles Jones / Ben Jones
RAISED: $25,182 from 486 backers
FUNDED ON: November 7th 2018
DUE ON: September 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Partially
OVERDUE: 19 months
NOTES:
You may remember Charles Jones as the other black guy from late 2018 who appeared as a guest on various Comicsgate streams, usually paired with Antonio Brice. It would appear that Asgard was partially fulfilled domestically to US backers, however many international backers are in the comment section claiming they never received their book. Charles is not answering questions, ceased posting updates, disappeared from livestreams and has appeared to have gone dark on his twitter account.
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PROJECT: TALES FROM THE STACKS VOL 1
CREATOR: Aspirational Comics / Professor Geek
RAISED: $25,812 from 763 backers
FUNDED: April 15th 2019
DUE: September 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Fulfilling now
OVERDUE: 19 months late
NOTES:
Professor Geek was an early Comicsgate comic book reviewer until he wiped his reviews and largely disappeared after referring to Jim Healis' Blue Mamba as a CG book. Healis was funded on one of @FROG's early streams during late 2018 and later disavowed the movement. Geek was a milquetoast youtuber, his book looks shit and it's late, there's nothing else really to discuss.

PROJECT: SHINOBI SASQUATCH: BOOK ONE
CREATOR: Cal Jameson
RAISED: $81,890 from 1,590 backers
FUNDED: June 1st 2019
DUE: October 2019
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 18 months late
NOTES:
Cal's book was already overdue when he allowed his artist Rob Willis to go walkabout with Jon Malin to work on Graveyard Shift 3, from which Rob was recently fired. According to the latest update 13 days ago 20 pages of the 84 pages are complete which means backers might see it in another 54 months.

PROJECT: FIRESHINE #1
CREATOR: Romane Black
RAISED: $1,986 from 63 backers
FUNDED: August 31st 2019
DUE: October 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 18 months
NOTES:
Never heard of the guy, he posted an update 3 months ago claiming the books were still at the printers.

PROJECT: IRON SKIES
CREATOR: Kristopher Rue
RAISED: $16,380 from 530 backers
FUNDED: July 11th 2019
DUE: December 2019
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Partially
OVERDUE: 16 months
NOTES:
Another campaign where the comment section shows that international backers haven't received their orders. Canaan White was a cover artist, no wonder the poor guy left CG when he was shackled to incompetent creators.

PROJECT: DOOMKICKER
CREATOR: Elliot Fernandez
RAISED: $60,755 from 1,043 backers
FUNDED: July 28th 2019
DUE: February 2020
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 14 months
NOTES:
Elliot Fernandez somehow conned Doug TenNapel to attach his name to this grift before he sperged out at Comicsgate that the book wasn't funded to an amount he desired. He then quit CG in a tard rage and shacked up with Smiller and the DnQ crowd. Last update was a month ago and he still doesn't post any progress, Comicsgate is probably better off without him

PROJECT: LONGHARBOR
CREATOR: Alejandro Mirabel
RAISED: $64,892 from 1,630 backers
FUNDED: March 26th 2019
DUE: February 2020
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 14 months
NOTES:
Pretty decent art on this one, it's a shame the gook can't keep a schedule. According to his last update the book is finished and he's just editing layouts.

PROJECT: DEATHSWORN: BOOK ONE
CREATOR: Karl O'Rowe
RAISED: $60,781 from 1,006 backers
FUNDED: October 12th 2019
DUE: March 2020
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 13 months
NOTES:
Another campaign, another incompetent creator who can't meet his own self imposed deadlines.

PROJECT: ODDITY
CREATOR: Sean Sweeney
RAISED: $22,975 from 472 backers
FUNDED: October 31st 2019
DUE: March 2020
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 13 months
NOTES:
Sean has wiped all his original delivery dates, like a deceptive little prick, but according to sold perks it was originally due in March 2020. His last update 2 months ago claims to have only 4 pages left to draw, let's hope he actually delivers the comic that @FROG very graciously drew a crossover variant cover for.

PROJECT: MONSTER M.D.
CREATOR: Von Klaus
RAISED: $95,764 from 2,045 backers
FUNDED: July 29th 2019
DUE: Unknown, deleted his shipping dates but an update claimed early 2020
STATUS: In-Demand
FULFILLED: Now
OVERDUE: ~12 months give or take
NOTES:
Von Klaus has finally started fulfilling Monster M.D. after deleting his shipping dates. No wonder he teamed up with Martina Markota to work on Lady Alchemy, they have a lot in common, namely being a pair of slimy cunts.

PROJECT: GALACTIC RODENTS OF MAYHEM VOLUME ONE (GROM)
CREATOR: Gilly Writes Comics / Gilbert Deltrez
RAISED: $24,800 from 405 backers
FUNDED: October 19th 2019
DUE: April 2020
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 12 months
NOTES:
Another example of the backer's being screwed over as comic book shops will be receiving this book first, as announced in a recent update. The retard who tried to crowdfund a Sith Star Wars comic on Kickstarter without Lucasfilm's permission joins Mitch Breitweiser and Ben Dunn in fucking over his backers.

PROJECT: THE EXPENDABLES GO TO HELL GRAPHIC NOVEL
CREATOR: Richard C Meyer / Diversity & Comics / Ya Boi Zack
RAISED: $283,598 from 4,355 backers
FUNDED: March 3rd 2020
DUE: May 2020
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: No
OVERDUE: 11 months
NOTES:
First it was May, then it was October, then it was in time for Christmas, then it was delayed because it was finished but he "was scared to pull the trigger", then it was delayed because he's now doing in house fulfillment, then it was delayed even further because he's prioritizing Impossible Stars and 499. Pure fucking incompetence from someone who should know better, enough excuses and get it fucking done.

PROJECT: THE ABCS OF ANGER
CREATOR: Mike Angerhauser
RAISED: $2,192 from 45 backers
FUNDED: December 2nd 2019
DUE: April 2020
STATUS: Closed
FULFILLED: Undetermined
OVERDUE: 11 months
NOTES:
Some sketchbook from some guy I've never heard of, his updates and comment section leave it ambiguous whether or not this book actually fulfilled. He had two previous campaigns Black Forest (funded) and The Black Forest (failed).

Unfortunately due to time restraints and the possibility of hitting a character limit, I'll have to continue this at another date. Would you believe we're not even halfway through the list of overdue campaigns?
 
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I couldn't help but notice Brand at the top. I did finally get mine, but I honestly just threw it aside and haven't read it yet.

It never fails, the happy - go - lucky, laugh like like Dr. Hibbert, Sexy-Party guy is a ball of rage and resentment inside. I distinctly remember the last livestream he did with EVS. They were gently chiding him for launching Brand 2 before the first was fulfilled. You could see him getting lower and lower in stature, finally going quiet with a scowl on his face. Even when they tried to lighten the mood he wasn't having anything to do with it. Sunshine soldier.
 
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