#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[SaidNoOneEver]

If he would just vet these people a little better situations like this could be avoided, but Frog almost never vets anyone until it's too late, so once again, here we are.

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

 

[Captain Manning]

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

Ask them if they too like GIGANTIC ASSES and, if the say yes, invite them on.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

To Nasser's defence, his first slasher novella was quite decent. Now, if he was not a virgin and added some sleaze (like creators in Europe did in the 70's and 80's) it would have been much better.

And speaking of kinks, you realize that the creator of Wonder Woman was into bondage and never hid it in the comics

A Guide to Wonder Woman’s Kinky History

Troy Michael Bordun revisits the contested history of Wonder Woman's creator, the women in his life, and the sex-positive feminism they championed.

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I took that into consideration after you said so. I'm gonna do that with #6 (still need to write that one). #5 comes out this month.

EDIT: Half of my response didn't post for some reason.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

It wasn't much different than Adam Post. Anyone in FROG's circle is disposable. And if they create a perception problem for FROG, he will cut them loose and pretend that whatever controversy occurred was a total shock to him. Its just what he does.

A lot of similarities with Gary (Nerdrotic).

Anyone, even the inner circle is expendable.

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

A rudimentary set of searches could have prevented Adam Post becoming a fixture at the table.

 

[Greed]

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

Simply look into them before promoting them, which Frog already does to some extend. The problem is he looks but doesn't see. I guess you could call it "selective awareness". Let me explain what I mean.
When Frog looks at the work of an SJW, he can easily dissect what he's seeing and trace every flaw back to a singular source, the mental illness of the far left.

Why is the dialogue so bad? Because the authors don't understand genuine human interaction.
Why is this comic so oddly sexual? Because the authors are deviant scum who feel compelled to insert their weirdness into everything they write.
Why is the art so bad? Because the artist doesn't give a shit, they just want to promote an agenda.
Why does none of this feel cool? Because these people don't actually like comics.

Now ask those same questions about the work of someone Frog is friendly with. His answer will suddenly turn into a fifth dimensional quantum physics dissertation about "energy" and "kinetics".
Frog has a pathological blind spot toward those he likes, and this extends to his appraisal of their work.
If he wants to curate what comes out of ALL CAPS he's going to need to start looking at these projects with a much more critical eye and a more discerning mindset than "lmao big asses I dunno!"

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Simply look into them before promoting them, which Frog already does to some extend.

How many supportive shows would've had Frog on as a guest if those producers had "looked into him" via Google a few years ago?

 

[jspit2.0]

Um... I didn't defend it. I'm saying that comparing it to fetish comics is border line retarded.

You literally said you'd give it to an eight year old.

Yeah, by your standard Roger Rabbit would be a mature comic, maybe x-rated.

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Given how many furries that comic inspired?

Naaaaahhhhh.

PG13.

I think you're missing the difference between Mr Miracle being married to a tall chick with some vanilla sexual innuendo and what's really going on here.

I'm not missing anything. Keep overreacting to this. I know someone, somewhere is getting weird over this. They did over the Sonic movie too.

"Fooomp" "Doosh"

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That's seems like a bit of humor? She's clothed. He's clothed. How is this some obscene scene beyond all decency. Quick! Contact the Comics Code Authority! Somewhere, a weirdo has a boner!

Defend what?

I'd hit it.
Also, if you're gonna mention X-Men, you should have gone with Psylocke.

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Again, @Newman's Own is right. Sexy ≠ fetishistic.

The Claremont run was infamous for its BDSM costumes. The hellfire club was literally a club of degeneracy.

You guys need ta chill. Go watch Buck Breakers. This shits chill by comparison.

There were lots of bondage covers in 1940s comics. What made the creator of Wonder Woman different is that he had a whole ideology he wanted to preach through bondage, lesbianism and female supremacy. He believed that through erotic conditioning, comics could teach a generation of people (in particular boys) to be submissive to authority. He said something once to the effect that the only way to create peace in the world was to teach men to accept bondage.
He was a full-on intellectual weirdo rather than just the standard sexual weirdo. He was crazy enough to turn his own kinks into a political ideology.

The creator of Wonder Woman also swiped alot of ideas from an old novel by Charlotte Gilman called "herland" which concerned an idealized all-female society and was kind of the template for the "amazons". in wonder woman.

Pretty much. Not just Wondy. There's all kinds of kink in some of those early comics. Wertham may have actually been onto something.

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

YES! Sorry to yell. But if you do endorse people you should make some effort to check.

Ask them if they too like GIGANTIC ASSES and, if the say yes, invite them on.

What are you? Some typa Commie. Who doesn't like thicc butts. Know who doesn't have the thiccness? Loli.

YA WANNA SEE LOLI WIN MANNING?
No. Embrace the weird, Geigeresque comic then, like a good Americanwhateverthehellyouare.

 

[Captain Manning]

If he wants to curate what comes out of ALL CAPS he's going to need to start looking at these projects with a much more critical eye and a more discerning mindset than "lmao big asses I dunno!"

Agreed, but does anybody think maybe there's a drought of stuff to promote right now?

Like what could have he have promoted instead?

How many supportive shows would've had Frog on as a guest if those producers had "looked into him" via Google a few years ago?

Probably quite a few, actually. The anti-SJW wing of Youtube is pretty nepotistic, insular, and loathe to "punch right."

Rekieta had him on in 2018, for example. I keep hearing that was the time when Ethan courted the most amount of controversy.

 

[Mister Dongs]

The anti-SJW wing of Youtube is pretty nepotistic, insular, and loathe to "punch right."

 

[A nameless trool]

Simply look into them before promoting them, which Frog already does to some extend. The problem is he looks but doesn't see. I guess you could call it "selective awareness". Let me explain what I mean.
When Frog looks at the work of an SJW, he can easily dissect what he's seeing and trace every flaw back to a singular source, the mental illness of the far left.

Why is the dialogue so bad? Because the authors don't understand genuine human interaction.
Why is this comic so oddly sexual? Because the authors are deviant scum who feel compelled to insert their weirdness into everything they write.
Why is the art so bad? Because the artist doesn't give a shit, they just want to promote an agenda.
Why does none of this feel cool? Because these people don't actually like comics.

Now ask those same questions about the work of someone Frog is friendly with. His answer will suddenly turn into a fifth dimensional quantum physics dissertation about "energy" and "kinetics".
Frog has a pathological blind spot toward those he likes, and this extends to his appraisal of their work.
If he wants to curate what comes out of ALL CAPS he's going to need to start looking at these projects with a much more critical eye and a more discerning mindset than "lmao big asses I dunno!"

It feels to me @FROG has this one character flaw: he is desperate to get friends and be liked. His entire history with Gail Simone is proof to that and he is repeating it with WC and the various people in his livestreams. Or on this board.
He likes a person, invests in them, then they make him look bad and he lashes at them like a scorned child. I am starting to think that this is how he feels about the entire comicbook industry, he felt the SJW creators were his firends and he is mad at them for rejecting him.

As for kink and sex in comics, guys, don't you ever try to read a French sci fi comicbook...

 

[Newman's Own]

And speaking of kinks, you realize that the creator of Wonder Woman was into bondage and never hid it in the comics

Sure. He didn't have to. No one outside of bondage circles (which were small, hidden and rare in 1941) would have recognized it in that era. He wasn't the only creator sliding bondage themes into comics then but in the 1940s the level of sophistication in popular understanding of psychology was stone age compared to today.

I'm sure he got some suspicious looks when he visited the DC offices though.

Stanley Kubrick slid gay stuff into Spartacus 20 years later and very few people clued in.

How do you suggest he vet people before having them as a guest on his Youtube channel? Background checks?

Took me less than 2 minutes to check his DeviantArt page, see the next page from his comic (not included in the IGG) and realize DAMEGANG was some weird macrophiliac degeneracy.

So he could have taken 2 minutes to check.


That said, it's hilarious that he didn't bother and now he's promoting a comic with this weird soy kink. Macrophilia is about cuck-worthy men who want to be abused, degraded, dominated, or even eaten by large powerful dominant women.

Preston Poulter would be proud.

You literally said you'd give it to an eight year old.

I'd also let an 8 year old see a woman in a bathing suit which is about as risque as Kamen America gets.

What I wouldn't subject an 8 year old to is degenerate cuckoldry or macrophilia.

Is that unreasonable?

Given how many furries that comic inspired?

First harem lit then macrophilic comics...

Furries should be getting their big CG push sometime in 2022. (If you don't count all the werewolf shit since the start - I don't)

Stay tuned.

How is this some obscene scene beyond all decency.

She literally pops his head out of her ass like a ben-wa ball. It's not subtle. Insertion is a macrophile trope.

I've learned to much about this degenerate kink in the last day - I'm done after this

You guys need ta chill.

You think Kamen America is fetish shit because she's got a body and wears a bathing suit level costume. I just think @FROG unwittingly promoting degenerate macrophilia comics is a good laugh.

Chilling out is a good idea.

 

[Greed]

How many supportive shows would've had Frog on as a guest if those producers had "looked into him" via Google a few years ago?

I would think several, considering if they looked into the people smearing him they'd find a group of degenerates who tend to be guilty of far worse than anything Frog has done.
That's part of the reason he's had so much success. He picks good enemies.

 

[Strix454]

I don't hold this against him. If people like Wenger tried to attach themselves to me and leech off my credibility while producing chickenscratch, I'd cut them loose too. What bothers me is the whole "I could have never seen this coming!" reaction.
Like, you knew Wenger couldn't create a good book. At no point did he give the impression that he could create anything other than a terrible book. Frog knew this, but he liked Wenger, so here we are.
If he would just vet these people a little better situations like this could be avoided, but Frog almost never vets anyone until it's too late, so once again, here we are.

I don't hold that against him either. Throwing guys like Wenger /Adam Post under the bus when they mess up or get exposed is way better than having him try to defend them.
I think he has a real conflict between bringing people on for work value versus entertainment value for the show. Wenger was a case where the entertainment value (of
the train wreck sort) won. I don't think its a matter of "vetting" them because I think he usually knows exactly what he is putting on.

 

[Greed]

I don't think its a matter of "vetting" them because I think he usually knows exactly what he is putting on.

He didn't with Adam Post, or at least he claimed not to. Had Dongs not enlightened us, Adam would probably still be on Frog's streams.

Does anyone honestly think he was bringing Post on for his entertainment value?

 

[Weeb Slinger]

Ha ha, it's giant women with fat asses and big boobies fighting eachother. It's well drawn in a likable, consistent cartoony style, and just based on what I see, it deserves to get funded.

I checked out the artist's website, and it's filled with strange doodles all focused around women's enormously fat asses. I dunno!

I was studying the PVC and action figure sculpts for Cyberfrog and Salamandroid. One noticeable trait shared by these brothers in arms is that they both have small asses relative to their body size. The barrel-chested Salamandroid has the kind of diminutive ass that one might see bobbing along a fashion show catwalk in Paris. Cyberfrog has a flat ass like Brie Larson. Even amphibious heroes have crosses they must carry.

I suppose that an artistically gifted fan of gigantic asses might create permutations of Cyberfrog and Salamandroid with enhanced buttocks, however I feel that fan art of this type would not in keeping with the spirit of these characters. It would be like drawing Batman wearing assless leather chaps.

It is fair to say that giant asses were not integral to the creation of Cyberfrog or his sidekicks. Note that I did not study the ass of the Heather Swain statue, as I am a gentleman and not an unsalvageable degenerate like Cecil.

 

[FROG]

He didn't with Adam Post, or at least he claimed not to. Had Dongs not enlightened us, Adam would probably still be on Frog's streams.

Does anyone honestly think he was bringing Post on for his entertainment value?

Adam Post made a few videos about ComicsGate that I really liked. So he got invited onto a few livestreams, and quickly made friends with everyone. He's a likeable guy.

His zombie books seemed like they'd be an easy sell, but they were really tough to promote. We'd finish a good livestream in which everyone would get about $2000 in new backers, and Adam Post wouldn't get a single dollar.

When I'd drop the livestream link into the DM group, he'd be the first one to pop in. Consistently. And he'd contribute almost nothing fun to the show. Eventually I forgot to even mention his campaigns.

Still, he was doing everything right. He was friendly, making videos with other creators, promoting the hashtag. He just wasn't making his own comics, as it turned out. So I told him he'd no longer be invited, and booted him from the DM group.

I'm at the point now where I'm not inviting new people to the show. When Malin and Cecil are there, it works. I can take a breath, ask a leading question, and know they'll take over with something amusing. Give myself a quick rest. The show works. Almost everyone else just sits there, hoping I'll promote their comics, adding nothing.

I'm better off solo, promoting the comics I want to promote without the creators there. Interviewing comic book creators is almost always tedious and boring.

 

[Newman's Own]

He didn't with Adam Post, or at least he claimed not to. Had Dongs not enlightened us, Adam would probably still be on Frog's streams.

Does anyone honestly think he was bringing Post on for his entertainment value?

I don't think he gives a shit until it bounces back on him. It's not because Post got found out that he got turfed. It's because it was reflecting on the brand (and he was boring).

I expect we've seen the last of the promotion of the giantess book on ComicArtisProSecrets for the same branding reason.

It was funny while it lasted.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I'm at the point now where I'm not inviting new people to the show. When Malin and Cecil are there, it works. I can take a breath, ask a leading question, and know they'll take over with something amusing. Give myself a quick rest. The show works. Almost everyone else just sits there, hoping I'll promote their comics, adding nothing.

I'm better off solo, promoting the comics I want to promote without the creators there. Interviewing comic book creators is almost always tedious and boring.

There's always Witten!

I don't think he gives a shit until it bounces back on him. It's not because Post got found out that he got turfed. It's because it was reflecting on the brand and he was boring.

I expect we've seen the last of the promotion of the giantess book on ComicArtisProSecrets for the same branding reason.

It was funny while it lasted.

Nah, you all just gave him content for five "Who Knew!" laugh-at-me streams where he can subtly flex his fundwrangling prowess. I'm surprised he hasn't already done one yet. I would've, it's the perfect innocent out.

 

[Newman's Own]

Nah, you all just gave him content for five "Who Knew!" laugh-at-me streams where he can subtly flex his fundwrangling prowess. I'm surprised he hasn't already done one yet. I would've, it's the perfect innocent out.

Well then there's hope that MacroGate will last a little longer...

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Well then there's hope that MacroGate will last a little longer...

I think it has to. In all seriousness he should be careful how he handles it now so all those backers he sent don't refund. THAT would be a dick move. There's a dozen ways he can have fun with it though.