#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[SaidNoOneEver]

That's not in doubt. Zack has a core of diehard fans who still view him as ComicsGate incarnate and will buy anything he farts out regardless of his recent bullshit and his decision to distance himself from CG without outright denouncing it. That's the only reason he hasn't denounced it. If he knew he could do it without losing a significant number of backers, he'd have taken a giant shit all over CG already.

I'm talking about Zack claiming he starts these new projects because he has new customers that want to buy his stuff and I just don't see how he has any significant amount of new customers. Every metric says his audience is shrinking and a sizable portion of the ones left aren't very happy with his direction in the last year.
He was getting backers because of his YouTube antics, yelling about comics and ripping them up in his Kia shitbox. He was getting subs from appearing on livestreams. He was promoting his stuff all over. He does none of that now, so I'm just wondering how he figures that there are so many new customers salivating for the opportunity to buy more G.I. Joe ripoff comics that he must prioritize them over actually getting his other projects out to customers that have been waiting over a year for their G.I. Joe ripoff comics.

The simplest explanation is that he's delayed so long that he needs money from new campaigns to continue work on the overdue ones.

 

[jspit2.0]

That's not in doubt. Zack has a core of diehard fans who still view him as ComicsGate incarnate and will buy anything he farts out regardless of his recent bullshit and his decision to distance himself from CG without outright denouncing it. That's the only reason he hasn't denounced it. If he knew he could do it without losing a significant number of backers, he'd have taken a giant shit all over CG already.

I'm talking about Zack claiming he starts these new projects because he has new customers that want to buy his stuff and I just don't see how he has any significant amount of new customers. Every metric says his audience is shrinking and a sizable portion of the ones left aren't very happy with his direction in the last year.
He was getting backers because of his YouTube antics, yelling about comics and ripping them up in his Kia shitbox. He was getting subs from appearing on livestreams. He was promoting his stuff all over. He does none of that now, so I'm just wondering how he figures that there are so many new customers salivating for the opportunity to buy more G.I. Joe ripoff comics that he must prioritize them over actually getting his other projects out to customers that have been waiting over a year for their G.I. Joe ripoff comics.

The simplest explanation is that he's delayed so long that he needs money from new campaigns to continue work on the overdue ones.

I...hadn't thought about that. Robbing from Peter to pay Paul. Though, he apparently was able to get out the 499 campaign. So he didn't rob that one. Theoretically.

 

[X Pac Heat]

So you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become Mike S. Miller?

 

[jspit2.0]

So you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become Mike S. Miller?

What?

 

[Image Reactions]

I like how it’s still Fall 2018 in here. Nice work, guntlemen.

 

[X Pac Heat]

What?

Wasn't that the accusations Mike S. Miller was under at some point? That he was so awful with money that he needed newer campaigns to fund in order to pay fulfillment towards older campaigns that funded?

 

[A nameless trool]

that’s twice JSM has been seen defending some pedo shit so, I wouldn’t be surprised. People usually project the stuff they actually do before the news comes out that that’s really what they were the whole time. This is especially true for pedos.

You mean people like TUG right?

 

[jspit2.0]

Wasn't that the accusations Mike S. Miller was under at some point? That he was so awful with money that he needed newer campaigns to fund in order to pay fulfillment towards older campaigns that funded?

That was an accusation made against Mike by WC that Ethan repeated for awhile. I made sure to include theoretically because, just like with Mike, I haven't seen any evidence.

I like how it’s still Fall 2018 in here. Nice work, guntlemen.

Please. Shits GoT tard edition. Alliances have 180'd since 2018.

 

[A nameless trool]

You don't have to see a movie that sexualizes preteens to form an objective judgement that sexualizing preteens is sick. JSG is prone to defending some really gross stuff. He is who he is just like Preston or Frog for that matter.

This is SJW logic: movie is about sexualization of girls ergo movie IS sexualization of girls.
JSG did two videos on cuties.
On the second one he was calling out the director for how ill thought that movie was. His "think more than one step ahead" had me shouting "preach!"

JSG was a gamergater who wanted to do a gg channel but was unable to, so when cg started he started his channel. He was saying so in a FNT he was in.
He is quite intelligent and this makes him stand out from most CG/TFM channels, but he is also getting caught in situations where he makes a nuanced take that many in the audience fail to grasp.

 

[HarveySperg41]

I was reading through the comments on The Expendables page. Wow there are some very mad people there. I can’t believe he thought it a good idea to delete comments.

 

[Rupin]

This is SJW logic: movie is about sexualization of girls ergo movie IS sexualization of girls.
JSG did two videos on cuties.
On the second one he was calling out the director for how ill thought that movie was. His "think more than one step ahead" had me shouting "preach!"

JSG was a gamergater who wanted to do a gg channel but was unable to, so when cg started he started his channel. He was saying so in a FNT he was in.
He is quite intelligent and this makes him stand out from most CG/TFM channels, but he is also getting caught in situations where he makes a nuanced take that many in the audience fail to grasp.

how Does one justify defending a movie like Cuties that focuses on little preteen girls dancing suggestively and a song sung by a choir of gay men that are telling you that they are coming to convert your children?

This isn’t even a slippery slope fallacy, they are making no attempt to hide the fact that they are promoting pedophilia.

 

[Newman's Own]

This is SJW logic: movie is about sexualization of girls ergo movie IS sexualization of girls.
JSG did two videos on cuties.

No. The movie objectively sexualizes preteen girls for the viewer. It doesn't matter what it's about. You're logic is akin to saying "this double anal scene isn't porn because it also addresses important issues like the 'pink socks' or gun control".

Depravity is what it is no matter what excuse the writer or director uses to sell it morally.

He is quite intelligent and this makes him stand out from most CG/TFM channels, but he is also getting caught in situations where he makes a nuanced take that many in the audience fail to grasp.

He may be smart, but 'what about the Christians?' and '11 yr old girls twerking and writhing for movie viewers is art' isn't "nuanced". It's bullshit whether JSG is clever or not. Being smart does not mean one is right.

If I'm wrong about this feel free to explain the "nuance" here. I won't hold my breath.

EDIT:

how Does one justify a defending movie like Cuties that focuses on little preteen girls dancing suggestively and a song sung by a choir of gay men that are telling you that they are coming to convert your children?

This isn’t even a slippery slope fallacy, they are making no attempt to hide the fact that they are promoting pedophilia.

Apparently we're all to dumb to see the brilliant nuance in JSG's opinions that justify all of this predatory shit.

 

[Pilule Noire]

Guys this is too funny, something is definitely going on with CG, where they're all becoming vain!

We all know about Zack and his bodybuilding obsession, right?

Well, Frog himself had like this Kevin Smith-like, boo-hoo-poor-me fat guy story the other day, about how he went into Hugo Boss and they told him he was too fat and told him to get out.

Meanwhile we've seen the debut of Slim Narwhal, who is like this weird, deflated, slightly more hyper version of old Pudgy Narwhal. All he does is quaff protein shakes and talk about fitness!

Look, he's streaming right now with CG's muscleman Graham Nolan, and former Donal-level fatso Doodlebags:

And the other day he was on Frog's stream going on about it too. What's going on? Did he catch it from Zack, during the ... making.... of Narzack?

I have no idea. Thank heavens. But one thing's for sure, Slim Narwhal is absolutely convinced that people really want to hear about this! They want to hear about comic book artists and their fitness regimens, their struggle with their weight and their diets, and the various kinds of bro science they are employing to shave the flab off their disgusting mens' bodies.

What do you think guys? Is it riveting? 27 viewers right now! I'm not one of them though.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Maybe it's because I quit watching his boring videos, but all I remember YBZ talking about was fasting all the time.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

Reminds me of Jim Shooter. After Jean Grey destroys a planet, she doesn't get to walk away. There's no redeeming that and anything other than Karmic consequence is vile.

She did lose her kids. That's some pretty tragic karmic consequences.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Ah, long time no see Comicsgate.

07/14/2021 - COMICS MATTER W/YA BOI ZACK - SAME SAD YOU- Crowdfunded Comics Can't Fix Your Baseline Mood OR How You Behave In Group Settings

In this video, Richard Meyer takes the time to acknowledge you, the sad loser watching his channel and backing his comic projects. After a three minute preamble babbling about his lawnmower - despite living in a border city full of Mexicans where he's the only white person around, Simple Zack is too inept, uncoordinated and socially awkward to find anyone to mow his lawn for him (a basic chore elderly women can do) - he finally opens with today's topic. The story about his lawn is analogous to his current crowdfund situation; I agree, but not in the sense that he means.

Meyer just wants to take a moment to gloat; after ignoring everyone telling him to fulfill his overdue projects first before launching a new campaign, he went and did it anyway and his campaign has been successfully funded. To be precise, Knife-Hand: Blindspot, 7 days into its 14 day campaign, has reached almost what 499: Book One made in its first 24 hours. Take that, you uncustomers!

Ever the intellectual, Meyer then relates this to a sketch he watched on the latest episode of Saturday Night Live guest starring Adam Sandler. The sketch was about how the fantasy of a whirlwind vacation trip to Italy would not fix someone if the traveller was a fundamentally unhappy individual; they would just find something to be unhappy about while riding a gondola in Venice. Waiting a year past overdue for Jawbreakers, Impossible Stars and Expendables: Go to Hell, you see gentle crowdfunding normie, is like a trip to Italy. And if you're feeling ripped off that a global quarantine and vaccination effort was carried out before Meyer could put out a clumsy, hamfisted commentary on it with Impossible Stars, have you considered that the problem is with you and not his objectively late comic book? If these books weren't ridiculously late while he launches new projects, Meyer is sure they would be complaining about something else. That's what he tells himself and that's what he's telling you.

Meyer closes this stream by clarifying something a little for the "crowdfunding normies" that he alleges are (but going by sales numbers aren't) replacing his disaffected customers - you aren't paying for a product when you crowdfund something, you're paying for the experience of witnessing a crowdfund campaign, or something. The real Jawbreakers comic book was the journey along the way.

07/07/2021 - HOW TO DRAW COMICS . NET - Staying On Schedule & Meeting Deadlines With Jon Malin

This is a belated summary, but still worth documenting nonetheless. Word has trickled backed to Malin about deadlines not being met and projects not sticking to schedule. Coach can relate to the common man on this issue and is going to tackle it head on with a fiery speech. Hosting the stream are the Australian Barton brothers, Clayton and Corey of HowToDrawComics.net, who are also the creators of Kozor: Descent Into Madness, a 48 page comic launched in April of 2020 and with no sign of fulfillment in sight. Malin isn't going to hold back and starts venting his own frustration with artists who simply can't meet deadlines. He's not going to name the artist in question (Rob Willis), but he for one has had enough of these so called "professional" artists who are unable to maintain a regular workrate, or halfass commission work. With all this bullshit and lack of work ethic going on, who the fuck is going to draw Jon Malin's comics? Jon Malin?

Coach goes so far as to say to the Barton brothers, now 288 days overdue on their 48 page comic, that if you're over thirty years old can't turn in 3 pages a week, just goddamn tell him you're not up to the fucking job. Malin has no idea, and these two aren't going to tell him. Instead they just writhe with pained expressions in silence as the Coach goes on, and on, and on..

This turns out to be a bad decision as far as streaming going as, left unchecked, Malin will apparently rant without end and, without anyone to bounce off of or lend structure to his tirades, starts going in loops and repeating himself as his train of thought becomes increasingly loose. After the first hour of this with no end in sight the chat, consisting of Comicsgate regulars and Kozor backers, gets increasingly restless. Until the inevitable happens...

At this point the Bartons look even more agitated and start offering veiled olive branches to their audience while Coach obliviously drones on with various personal anecdotes about his meeting other campaigns and explanations of the logic behind the scheduling of his own crowdfund campaigns. The chat takes on a increasingly seething and chaotic character as Meyer's name starts getting thrown around. Malin closes the stream by teasing the possibility of the Barton bros doing some unspecified work for his upcoming projects Graveyard Shift 4 and Godlike. Does this mean even more delays for the backers for Kozor like when Malin hired Rob Willis for GY3? Probably. Tough luck, Comicsgate backers!

07/09/2021 - CAMEL MOON - Camel Nights Episode 14

Also starring Jon Malin, this stream was thrown up in competition to Shane Davis' own show of commentary over "Daily Dose of Internet" compilation vids and the "Hold my beer" twitter account as Comicsgate youtubers, having scraped the absolute bottom of youtube content, are now taking a backhoe to where the barrel used to be and digging away. But while Shane Davis (who struggles with coherence even while sober) is merely excruciating, Camel Moon (creator of e-celeb "comic" Hail Salad) 's rival "daily dose of internet commentary" show elevates this experience to where it reaches "Clockwork Orange torture scene" levels of banality. After nearly two hours of the panel watching Idiocratic-style "Ow My Balls" youtube programming, Camel decides to break with the conventions of this 'genre' and declare a contest of intellects between Jon Malin, Michael Bancroft and Captain Chokeout to a trivia quiz show, one which drags on for an agonizing full hour before ending in a three-way tie: 0 - 0 - 0. This stream is also notable for being so asinine that JACK Show chav "Captain Chokeout" willingly left before the host forced him to, a phenomenon that before now I would not considered possible.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

Maybe Zack knows what he's doing. I don't know. But deleting comments or turning them off altogether is a SJW move and really makes him look shady. Let the people speak, you fascist.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Maybe Zack knows what he's doing.

Zack's become a broken shell of who he portrayed himself to be.
Perhaps the lawsuit did a real mental number on him afterall.

 

[Miniluv]

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

This is SJW logic: movie is about sexualization of girls ergo movie IS sexualization of girls.
JSG did two videos on cuties.
On the second one he was calling out the director for how ill thought that movie was. His "think more than one step ahead" had me shouting "preach!"

JSG was a gamergater who wanted to do a gg channel but was unable to, so when cg started he started his channel. He was saying so in a FNT he was in.
He is quite intelligent and this makes him stand out from most CG/TFM channels, but he is also getting caught in situations where he makes a nuanced take that many in the audience fail to grasp.

Hello JSG. Did you join the pedo choir yet?