I find Shane to be great when he has someone to bounce bants with. Unfortunately it does seem to get under his skin at some point, but he appears to be getting better.
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I find Shane to be great when he has someone to bounce bants with. Unfortunately it does seem to get under his skin at some point, but he appears to be getting better.
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Nasser, there used to be a very good show in the UK called Open Books With Martin Bryce - maybe you could try and copy that format?
Here he's interviewing an old UK chat show guy - but you could have Frog on! And JDA, all kinds of interesting types you could have, both on stage and in the audience.
Although to be brutally honest, I think Well Read User would make a better Martin Bryce than you. Maybe you could improve by imitating the speech and conduct style of Well Read? I know, I know, you think he's a faggot - but faggotry is subjective Nasser, believe it or not there's people who think YOU and SOY behave like faggots, and that Well Read behaves more like a non-faggot.
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Nasser is either autistic or so socially inept entitled zoomer he ends up acting like an autist.
Also, as you said, he goes for low hanging fruit. If he spent more time on building his skills instead of bitching and begging for stuff.
@NasserRabadi13 great men build something, they don't beg to be included.
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I think so, but I've never done a test. Friends and family (including a relative that's a nurse) have suggested that I am. I'm just unsure if an actual diagnosis would help with anything.
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Excellent analysis. Though I wouldn't have trolled at all if I wasn't targeted first.
And yes, I have a little Heinlein.
And I have a little Conan.
I also got a little Burroughs.
And I got a little Tolkien.
It's all about the bringing back the feel and sense of wonder of the classics and Making Science Fiction Fun Again.
I've noticed a shift lately in that I'm picking up more liberal/center-left readers and viewers. I think the SJWs finally took it all too far and they're sick of it. Bodes well for all of our futures in comicsgate.
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'Stop being such a faggot' is good advice. It's rather optomistic to think there's a chance Nasser would take that advice though.
It would give you an excuse but you've never been short on those.
If you don't like your test results maybe you could accuse the psychologists of being 'anti-Arab racists' as you like to do.
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Billy Tucci is launching the first Shi Omnibus tonight, and @FROG is hosting the launch:
Already over $50k on a goal of 10k. Billy has most of the pre-print work done and is hoping to get the printing started even before the campaign ends (near end of August). Dale Keown even showed up for the launch!
Billy doesn't get enough love on here. He elevates almost any stream he's on, and it's great to see a seminal title like Shi continue on, as well as now getting the back catalog back in print. For some of the indie greybeards, this could pave the way to bringing old titles back.
Billy doesn't get enough love on here. He elevates almost any stream he's on, and it's great to see a seminal title like Shi continue on, as well as now getting the back catalog back in print. For some of the indie greybeards, this could pave the way to bringing old titles back.
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I just backed it. It’s the first time I’ve bought any of his books. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Also Dale Keon is on EVS’s stream with Tucci. Ethan’s side of CG has gotten Uber powerful now with these heavy hitters.
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I like Billy too, and he seems to at least get on with his campaigns?
EVS went a long time not mentioning Billy - perhaps I just wasn’t listening - after Summer 2020 when Billy was working with that Italian lady artist (boy did she show up Anna as a truly beautiful classy woman). I did wonder briefly if they had fallen out but obviously not the case.
My only problem with Billy is his obsession with the New York Islanders. Let it go ffs Billy, it isn’t the 80s anymore. The best thing about the Islanders was the lolathon of the DiPietro contract. I really wouldn’t be so unashamedly proud of supporting the Richard C. Meyer of the NHL.
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POWER RANKINGS for tonight's stream!
>Billy Tucci
>Dale Keown
>EVS
>Eric Weathers
>Andy Smith
>Cecil
>Jon Malin
>Shane Davis
>PTP
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>POWER GAP
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>Phil Diaz
Rankings are based mostly on how much I like/can tolerate each participant, though their artistic ability and general entertainment value were considered. Your mileage may vary. I don't dislike Phil Diaz as a person, but him being on a stream with some of these artists is just an insult to everything and everyone. His talent as a writer is so far in the negative that it absolutely destroyed his results in my loosely constructed scoring system. You could make an argument that Cecil doesn't belong here either, but he admittedly makes me laugh often enough. Though I can't judge him as a comics talent until he finally delivers Cash Grab, if that ever happens.
>Billy Tucci
>Dale Keown
>EVS
>Eric Weathers
>Andy Smith
>Cecil
>Jon Malin
>Shane Davis
>PTP
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>POWER GAP
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>Phil Diaz
Rankings are based mostly on how much I like/can tolerate each participant, though their artistic ability and general entertainment value were considered. Your mileage may vary. I don't dislike Phil Diaz as a person, but him being on a stream with some of these artists is just an insult to everything and everyone. His talent as a writer is so far in the negative that it absolutely destroyed his results in my loosely constructed scoring system. You could make an argument that Cecil doesn't belong here either, but he admittedly makes me laugh often enough. Though I can't judge him as a comics talent until he finally delivers Cash Grab, if that ever happens.
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Ummm… sorry mate, but your reason for the gulf between Diaz and the rest of the crew is essentially creative/artsitic merit; yet you have Cecil above both Malin and Davis!
And different strokes etc, but I find Cecil about as funny as the threat of an unanaesthatised castration.
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I’d put Dale above Tucci.
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Quick Comicsgate update:
Erik Larsen, artist, father, Image Comics CFO, coomer, took a well-deserved break from drawing Savage Dragon with one hand to type out some truly dumb shit on faceberg a couple of weeks ago, which Meyer and Frog took turns lambasting for the inherent contradiction: Raina Telgemeier and Dav Pilkey focused precisely on tailoring their product to a narrow demographic and have made more money than all of Marvel and DC combined. Marvel and DC by comparison stopped catering to their proven demographic for a phantom one and are now laying people off and cancelling titles. Therefore we should... respect Marvel and DC's decision to diversify and lose their shirts instead of giving their paying customers what they want?
Billy Tucci of Shi has launched his 488 page Shi: Omnibus on Frog's channel as I post this. This can, and in my opinion should, be interpreted as a sign of Tucci's growing rift with Dynamite Comics and the ongoing problems with their collaboration with the overdue project Miss Fury. The short version: After Dynamite cancelled the Cecil Vampirella cover last year, many Comicsgaters mass refunded every Dynamite crowdfund they backed in solidarity (being under the impression from Frog that Dynamite was "pro-CG"). This resulted in the artist, Maria Sanapo, looking at the dropping sales numbers and pulling what I like to call a "Rob Willis" by washing her hands of any commitments towards completing Miss Fury and taking on other commission work. Dynamite's reaction to this was to tell the backers... in June 2021 that the artist they backed stopped working in August of last year and has no intention of coming back.
Arkhaven Comics by Vox Day has worked out some kind of deal with Stonetoss in a move that is only surprising in that it's taken this long to happen. The article can be read here.
Okay, that covered we can now move on to the most important subject: Micah Curtis
07/19/2021 - MICAH CURTIS - Apathy Destroys the Small Creator: A Rant
It's been almost three weeks since Micah regaled us with his moment of eureka, of satori and, while I was tardy in updating the thread here, we do get to jump ahead 20 days and observe the results of Micah's appeals and his campaign for Englewood 2 (currently at 29% of funding goal). It's been a rough month for Micah and he has something he'd like to get off his chest. Micha is "fucking enraged" at all these people complaining about woke crap, about woke Lord of the Rings or how woke season 4 of the Mandalorian is going to be, but nobody is talking about pushing alternatives to the mainstream anymore. Back in the day, people supported alternatives. Supported Micah. But then some campaigns didn't fulfill. Some were late. Were Micah's campaigns some of those really late campaigns? Yeah. Nowadays though when youtubers rack up views complaining about the latest woke piece of shit like I Am Starfire, they're very quiet about promoting alternatives like Englewood instead. And now Micah finds himself struggling.
These people complain about Snowflake and Safespace, they complain about The Last Jedi, but not a single moment of the thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours uploaded to youtube complaining about Marvel, Disney or anything else has resulted in a change in how these megacorporations operate beyond learning the ability to ignore complaints. Another thing that Micah has noticed is that the years of coverage by youtube channels like Quartering, Clownfish and FNT of uninterrupted negativity about what new piece of culture in the news cycle like Lord of the Rings on Amazon or female Thor or whatever has resulted in an audience that feels an increasing sense of defeat against the powers that be. An increasing sense of apathy and dejection in other words. Not only have they made no difference in the face of woke SJW control over the media, but Jeremy Hamburglar's only real contribution to the culture war is to rub in whatever cultural milestone the SJWs are taking away this week, in Micah's estimation. He loves those guys though, for real.
This growing apathy, this malaise and nihilism is a mortal threat to everything Micah has been working towards for the past two years, and not just his but every small creator working to make something. Micha says there have been bigger creators who have failed in the past, but he asks the viewer,.. has he let you down? If you have been let down by Micah, like because of the time he shipped comics without being bagged and boarded, or late completion, or overall quality, well that's fair enough Micah will grant you. But if you haven't, he urges you to take a stand against nihilism by backing Englewood 2. Micah doesn't want to beg. But if Englewood 2 doesn't reach its $15,000 funding goal it's the end of the road for him. Isn't Englewood what you, the audience called out for in the face of woke entertainment? Do you want to actually do something about the state of entertainment, or do you just want to sit and complain about what you're given that week?
So is this the end for Micah Curtis? I can't say one way or another, but life can be cyclical in a way...
rumble.com
07/19/2021 - DAN WISE - CHANNEL UPDATE JULY
Newcomer Dan Wise has a recap for the month, of reviewing his favorite authors/coworkers at Iconic Comics Doug Ernst and Tim Lim, getting involved in local politics and working in fulfillment with an indie comic company. Busy busy busy. Will Dan, new to the cultural commentary scene, get involved further? Only time can tell.
Erik Larsen, artist, father, Image Comics CFO, coomer, took a well-deserved break from drawing Savage Dragon with one hand to type out some truly dumb shit on faceberg a couple of weeks ago, which Meyer and Frog took turns lambasting for the inherent contradiction: Raina Telgemeier and Dav Pilkey focused precisely on tailoring their product to a narrow demographic and have made more money than all of Marvel and DC combined. Marvel and DC by comparison stopped catering to their proven demographic for a phantom one and are now laying people off and cancelling titles. Therefore we should... respect Marvel and DC's decision to diversify and lose their shirts instead of giving their paying customers what they want?
Billy Tucci of Shi has launched his 488 page Shi: Omnibus on Frog's channel as I post this. This can, and in my opinion should, be interpreted as a sign of Tucci's growing rift with Dynamite Comics and the ongoing problems with their collaboration with the overdue project Miss Fury. The short version: After Dynamite cancelled the Cecil Vampirella cover last year, many Comicsgaters mass refunded every Dynamite crowdfund they backed in solidarity (being under the impression from Frog that Dynamite was "pro-CG"). This resulted in the artist, Maria Sanapo, looking at the dropping sales numbers and pulling what I like to call a "Rob Willis" by washing her hands of any commitments towards completing Miss Fury and taking on other commission work. Dynamite's reaction to this was to tell the backers... in June 2021 that the artist they backed stopped working in August of last year and has no intention of coming back.
Arkhaven Comics by Vox Day has worked out some kind of deal with Stonetoss in a move that is only surprising in that it's taken this long to happen. The article can be read here.
Okay, that covered we can now move on to the most important subject: Micah Curtis
07/19/2021 - MICAH CURTIS - Apathy Destroys the Small Creator: A Rant
It's been almost three weeks since Micah regaled us with his moment of eureka, of satori and, while I was tardy in updating the thread here, we do get to jump ahead 20 days and observe the results of Micah's appeals and his campaign for Englewood 2 (currently at 29% of funding goal). It's been a rough month for Micah and he has something he'd like to get off his chest. Micha is "fucking enraged" at all these people complaining about woke crap, about woke Lord of the Rings or how woke season 4 of the Mandalorian is going to be, but nobody is talking about pushing alternatives to the mainstream anymore. Back in the day, people supported alternatives. Supported Micah. But then some campaigns didn't fulfill. Some were late. Were Micah's campaigns some of those really late campaigns? Yeah. Nowadays though when youtubers rack up views complaining about the latest woke piece of shit like I Am Starfire, they're very quiet about promoting alternatives like Englewood instead. And now Micah finds himself struggling.
These people complain about Snowflake and Safespace, they complain about The Last Jedi, but not a single moment of the thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours uploaded to youtube complaining about Marvel, Disney or anything else has resulted in a change in how these megacorporations operate beyond learning the ability to ignore complaints. Another thing that Micah has noticed is that the years of coverage by youtube channels like Quartering, Clownfish and FNT of uninterrupted negativity about what new piece of culture in the news cycle like Lord of the Rings on Amazon or female Thor or whatever has resulted in an audience that feels an increasing sense of defeat against the powers that be. An increasing sense of apathy and dejection in other words. Not only have they made no difference in the face of woke SJW control over the media, but Jeremy Hamburglar's only real contribution to the culture war is to rub in whatever cultural milestone the SJWs are taking away this week, in Micah's estimation. He loves those guys though, for real.
This growing apathy, this malaise and nihilism is a mortal threat to everything Micah has been working towards for the past two years, and not just his but every small creator working to make something. Micha says there have been bigger creators who have failed in the past, but he asks the viewer,.. has he let you down? If you have been let down by Micah, like because of the time he shipped comics without being bagged and boarded, or late completion, or overall quality, well that's fair enough Micah will grant you. But if you haven't, he urges you to take a stand against nihilism by backing Englewood 2. Micah doesn't want to beg. But if Englewood 2 doesn't reach its $15,000 funding goal it's the end of the road for him. Isn't Englewood what you, the audience called out for in the face of woke entertainment? Do you want to actually do something about the state of entertainment, or do you just want to sit and complain about what you're given that week?
So is this the end for Micah Curtis? I can't say one way or another, but life can be cyclical in a way...
Chanel Update: July
I've been busy! Getting involved in some local activities: volunteer work, comic con, working with an indie publisher.
07/19/2021 - DAN WISE - CHANNEL UPDATE JULY
Newcomer Dan Wise has a recap for the month, of reviewing his favorite authors/coworkers at Iconic Comics Doug Ernst and Tim Lim, getting involved in local politics and working in fulfillment with an indie comic company. Busy busy busy. Will Dan, new to the cultural commentary scene, get involved further? Only time can tell.
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Do something! Give Micah your hard earned money so he can produce a crappy anti woke comic. Crappy woke comic or crappy anti woke comic, it's your choice! You still get the comic equivalent of a giant turd tho.
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Testing within the spectrum and going through therapy might be helpful to interact better with others.
Not to powerlevel, but I was in a facebook group some years ago where you were telling another author you court controversy because it brings attention.
SFF has fewer of the autistic trannies and enbys so a lot of liberal/center left/left people are noticing the shitshow that is YA, comics, movies and breadtube and are more likely to get fed-up with that side, now that they have forgotten (or never encountered) the puppies and Trump is out of the office.
Now, go full anti-SJW/based and you will probably get some backlash, but it seems to me that apolitical nostalgia works better.
Also, most in the audience are men over 30 reading bricks of books for fun: we can make some sense out of an arguement instead of REEEE and this helps you too. There is a good chunk of older geeks on the left that are anti-woke, it is just that the people on the anti-SJW side are either autists, dumbasses or grifters, as this thread proves again and again.
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"Save us Micah, save us!"
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Stuff like this makes me doubt you:
Worldcon Is Redoing Its Entire Program After Widespread Backlash [Updated]
Favorite passage:
eir, em, e. And they re-write entire panels over it.
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This is about a con, not fans or community.
The community is mostly happy to read the books and maybe take a peek at the hugo awarded novel of that year or the five finalist novels.
Having the con awarding the Hugos misgender an unknown trannie passed under everybody's notice, because this is purely inside baseball of professional writers and their association.
This is why the Sad/Rabid Puppies (aka SciFiGate) never got any real traction - people did not care and maybe only saw that some racist bigots were pissed a black woman got a Hugo (or five) for some books that were quite good to get a Hugo in the first place.
Also, since publishing is very open, people can always get alternatives - if you don't like the state of modern science fiction books published, you self-publish the book you want to see on Amazon - and in the case of good old sci-fi it is also profitable if done well.
Or go to a second hand bookstore and get a big pile of paperbacks from the good old days and read through them, there is enough material to go through.
The problem is in the YA category, where you need the big traditionally published titles and 20-something year old "girls" on twitter are making and breaking books.
Case in point, this article that went viral
@NasserRabadi13 should give it a read to understand why focusing on twitter and/or YT is a loser move.
Even woke media had to twist themselves to claim that "White teens on tiktok are to blame"
TL
R the fanbase in Sci Fi and Fantasy is not as radicalized as in comics and there is little need for a -gate movement, because the audience has found ways to circumvent a lot of gatekeeping. This is where CG and TFM fail, they have yet to find an alternative that opens them to a wider audience.
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Don't worry @NasserRabadi13, comicsgaters will still be there, will always be there, with free career advice, recommendations for therapies, and a new, clean pacifier.
This can't end well.
Micah never interested me enough to learn what Englewood even is. A small town in North Carolina where life slows to a crawl and the real treasure is the friends we made along the way? But is crowdfunding part 2 really his last chance to do anything 'creative' '''''creative''''' or is he just a little too dim to try other avenues?
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Micah is doing his best impression of a stopped clock here, but fails at being right a second time.
Yes, the outrage grift crew do nothing but complain for money and add nothing to the culture they claim to represent. They also understand that they need things to be this way or they have no more income and no reason to exist. Much like many mainstream news outlets' ratings and revenue have plummeted with the absence of the 24 hour Trump outrage cycle, so too will the Garys and Jeremys of the world find their wallets much lighter if everything returned to relatively apolitical storytelling designed to appeal to their core fanbase. Internet weirdos aren't inclined to give a $100 superchat to tell Gary how cool they think the new season of Doctor Who is, but they'll trip over themselves to have him relay their righteous indignation over the absolute state of Star Wars.
The kicker here, of course, is that things will never go back to the way they were. Micah is correct that the outrage grift will change nothing.
This is no longer Marvel Comics or Star Wars, this is Disney. None of the major franchises are self contained aspects of smaller concerns that focus on the movies/comics as their product. Amazon, Disney, CBS and the rest all have multiple, global income streams that generate billions of dollars. The comics and shows we cared about are no longer simply products, they are advertisements and propaganda for the megacorps. The cost for Disney to print some comics is nothing compared to the cultural traction of pushing gay black trans Spider-Xir if that's what they want to do. They don't give a shit if people stop buying the comics. Amazon's bottom line is not affected by your seething hatred of the woke Lord of the Rings series. BBC is going to get their share of that TV license fee no matter what you think of Doctor Who's vagina. They're wealthy and powerful and they are no longer beholden to things like "ratings" or "sales figures" to make money.
And here is where Micah shits the bed.
He fails to understand that he's not offering something that people actually want. Englewood simply isn't good enough to warrant spending $25 on, point blank. Yeah, there's money to be made in crowdfunding and there are some fun original properties out there but Englewood isn't it. The fact that Micah has to resort to begging to fund a $15k campaign isn't representative of customer apathy, it's representative of Micah and his ability and his past antics that have alienated him from a major source of backers. It reminds me of Zack's horrible "my campaigns aren't going anywhere, therefore crowdfunding is dying" take.
If I had $30 to blow on a crowdfunded indie comic, I'd definitely buy the Cyberfrog Omnibus and not Micah's amateur hour MMA Batman floppy. There are better options out there and the price point of these campaigns make quality and "bang for the buck" the first consideration. A well packaged, attractively priced volume of reprinted material is simply a better option than the product Micah is offering. If Micah had a better product and wasn't a fucking idiot that can't shut his mouth and stop burning bridges with people that could help him, he probably wouldn't need to make videos like this.