#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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More crypto talk derailment, but nft nonsense I will never get. What stops me from saving some other guys nft monkey pic and making it my avatar as well? Do I get into the club now, or do I have to own a crypto certificate that says I own the 'original' set of pixels?
You're copy of the original would be considered a "knock-off "by the people who care about these things. The equivalent of a fake Rolex.

At the end of the day a watch is a watch.


no I wish I did. I think I tapped out of the stream before that point.
I refuse to wade through a morose boomer snore stream looking for that one shining moment.
 
You're copy of the original would be considered a "knock-off "by the people who care about these things. The equivalent of a fake Rolex.

At the end of the day a watch is a watch.



I refuse to wade through a morose boomer snore stream looking for that one shining moment.

i actually looked through the video and can’t find it. My guess is that Ethan read the super chat but just didn’t put on the screen. So all we have is Mike’s word that the super chat was sent.
 
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More crypto talk derailment, but nft nonsense I will never get. What stops me from saving some other guys nft monkey pic and making it my avatar as well? Do I get into the club now, or do I have to own a crypto certificate that says I own the 'original' set of pixels?
Think of an EFT as the title to a car, and the actual monkey picture as the car. Someone can come along and take your car and claim that it's their car, but then you can bring the title to the police or to court and prove that it's yours. But you can also sell your car and do so by giving the title of the car to someone else. This isn't a perfect analogy because the thief can't effortlessly make infinite copies of your car, but the point stands that the logical rights to the car/monkey picture stay with you unless and until you decide to give them to someone else.
 
i actually looked through the video and can’t find it. My guess is that Ethan read the super chat but just didn’t put on the screen. So all we have is Mike’s word that the super chat was sent.
It took me a couple minutes to find.

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As I predicted Ethan is considering doing NFTs (despite thinking "it's kind of slimey") now that he's seen Mike and Doug score six figures on a few thousand dollars worth of time and investment. It would be interesting to see how Ethan's NFT's perform against Mike and Doug's ventures.
I'm not sure how CyberFrog would translate into that space, plus this whole NFT club fad could end at any moment. Better strike while the iron is hot slimey.

Apparently Doug is releasing his a hundred at a time for a grand a piece. He'd probably release them faster but he and his writers have to create a back story for each images character and that is time consuming.
 
i actually looked through the video and can’t find it. My guess is that Ethan read the super chat but just didn’t put on the screen. So all we have is Mike’s word that the super chat was sent.
Nobody likes to see Smiller succeed. It's the worst!!

Bring that meme back from earlier this year, Mister Dongs. Smiller's head on a dog getting flipped off, then religious CG pumping iron, then getting flipped off again after a single month.

Reset it to pumping iron again!
 
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I talked to Smiller in Frog's chat, asking him if with this new $250,000 windfall will he be using it to pay bills like a lame OR hang on to his ethereum and continue his crypto adventures, tantalizing us with possible future chapters like Mike trading his internet riches to some shitposter in exchange for online magic beans. With a sly grin and a nod of the head (I imagine), Mike replied "you know me, Dongs".
 
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"Art is not a good person contest but art is really, really important literally to humanity".

Richard did another classic Richard Video.

Richard made a stand in favor of the right of "important" artists to be bad people. He made this in the context of Warren Ellis who he compared to Pablo Picasso. He was generally making the case that important artists have to be held to a different standard of behavior. He was amazed at the quality of Ellis writing on GI Joe comics considering that Ellis was not raised as a fan of GI Joe comics. He also drops a Norman Mailer reference.

Richard of course seems blind to the fact that Warren Ellis was and is one of the ultimate cancel culture SJW warriors back before his problem and that if he asked today, he would probably be in favor of banning people like Richard from any employment. But Richard also praises Ellis for being a better SJW progressive than Tom Taylor. In particular he praises Warren Ellis for his ability to write gay homeless superhero stories.

I guess "499" pretentious artistic Richard isn't dead yet.

 
It took me a couple minutes to find.

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As I predicted Ethan is considering doing NFTs (despite thinking "it's kind of slimey") now that he's seen Mike and Doug score six figures on a few thousand dollars worth of time and investment. It would be interesting to see how Ethan's NFT's perform against Mike and Doug's ventures.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e5bj_912U0M:7199I'm not sure how CyberFrog would translate into that space, plus this whole NFT club fad could end at any moment. Better strike while the iron is hot slimey.

Apparently Doug is releasing his a hundred at a time for a grand a piece. He'd probably release them faster but he and his writers have to create a back story for each images character and that is time consuming.

But, you could buy a page of original art from Big foot Bill for $100 (a tenth of the price) on Doug's campaign.
Maybe I'm just a huge boomer but I'd prefer a piece of authenticated art that I can frame and hang on my wall.

Edit: or is it 950 dollars for a page that features the character, its not terribly clear on the campaign, either way, it's still far more appealing than an NFT pyramid scheme.
 
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He was amazed at the quality of Ellis writing on GI Joe comics considering that Ellis was not raised as a fan of GI Joe comics. He also drops a Norman Mailer reference.
Richard is amazed at GI Joe, period. He thinks it's the absolute pinnacle of fiction. Warren Ellis wrote it well because he's a capable writer and GI Joe is nothing more than "army man ninjas vs bad guys". It was a lay-up for him. He probably took the job because he was trying to get more screenwriting gigs (GI Joe Resolute was a cartoon, not a comic), In any case, even a half-assed Warren Ellis GI Joe script is probably in the top 5 stories ever told with the property.

I used to get a perverse joy out of watching Richard's videos about Aubrey Sitterson's Joe stuff because YBZ would just get so pissed off at how stupid and gay the books were (which they were), it's like he took it personally (which he probably did). His hard-on for that stuff is just completely bonkers.
 
"Art is not a good person contest but art is really, really important literally to humanity".

Richard did another classic Richard Video.

Richard made a stand in favor of the right of "important" artists to be bad people. He made this in the context of Warren Ellis who he compared to Pablo Picasso. He was generally making the case that important artists have to be held to a different standard of behavior. He was amazed at the quality of Ellis writing on GI Joe comics considering that Ellis was not raised as a fan of GI Joe comics. He also drops a Norman Mailer reference.

Richard of course seems blind to the fact that Warren Ellis was and is one of the ultimate cancel culture SJW warriors back before his problem and that if he asked today, he would probably be in favor of banning people like Richard from any employment. But Richard also praises Ellis for being a better SJW progressive than Tom Taylor. In particular he praises Warren Ellis for his ability to write gay homeless superhero stories.

I guess "499" pretentious artistic Richard isn't dead yet.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eanheY6hgT8
He is kinda right about shitty people being great artists. But YBZ is not a man for "whattaboutisms". He is talking on the principle of a great writer being cancelled for fapping to a lot of Suicide Girls rejects regardless of their cancelling others.
If Gail Simone was cancelled today, YBZ would spend 3 days with a huge victory boner, then on the fourth day say that it is a shame because Gail once wrote a JLA script he liked.
This, to me, makes him more interesting to watch that professional outrage pedlers (that he low-key called out in a recent video, maybe on this one, not sure)
 
But, you could buy a page of original art from Big foot Bill for $100 (a tenth of the price) on Doug's campaign.
Maybe I'm just a huge boomer but I'd prefer a piece of authenticated art that I can frame and hang on my wall.
I am a huge "boomer" too and I agree.

That doesn't change the fact that this NFT thing is a real thing. Thinking it shouldn't be isn't going to change that.

I suspect original pages of TenNapel art will be going for more if he's ingratiated himself into this moneyed community now.
 
I am a huge "boomer" too and I agree.

That doesn't change the fact that this NFT thing is a real thing. Thinking it shouldn't be isn't going to change that.

I suspect original pages of TenNapel art will be going for more if he's ingratiated himself into this moneyed community now.
Beanie Babies were a real thing too, just not as investments. A whole lot of people are going to feel very stupid soon.
 
As I predicted Ethan is considering doing NFTs (despite thinking "it's kind of slimey") now that he's seen Mike and Doug score six figures on a few thousand dollars worth of time and investment. It would be interesting to see how Ethan's NFT's perform against Mike and Doug's ventures.
In exact contrast to my previous statement about Smiller's crypto tendencies, I suspect Frog is more interested in actually profiting from crypto than talking about it for hours. I'm probably getting numbers wrong, but I seem to remember him casually revealing he was in possession of something like ten bitcoin when it was around 30k. Bitcoin shot up to 60k a month later. While NFT's are slightly more esoteric in nature, I'd say there's a good chance he'll come around eventually. Whether or not that will occur before the entire landscape is rendered a veritable minefield by influencer pump-and-dumps remains to be seen.
 
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That's depressing. Didn't one of these sell for $500 or when it came out? Now it can't even get a single bid at the IGG price?
Is there exactly a big secondary market for these CG books? The way it’s marketed, it feels like most of the target audience (e.g. disgruntled Marvel/DC fans who pay for overpriced books to “support creators”) is already going to be buying in at the ground floor, while people outside of that very specific bubble have little reason to know or care about these creator’s original IP’s.

Seriously, how do you even sell Cyberfrog to someone who doesn’t know who EVS is and has little vested interest in his little corner of the culture wars? CG books suffer from the same issue as mainstream comics, in that they’re being sold primarily as expensive collectibles rather than as stories. It’s just that CG creators have a better time of it because they’re self-employed and are thus able to reap 100% of the profits.
 
Is there exactly a big secondary market for these CG books? The way it’s marketed, it feels like most of the target audience (e.g. disgruntled Marvel/DC fans who pay for overpriced books to “support creators”) is already going to be buying in at the ground floor, while people outside of that very specific bubble have little reason to know or care about these creator’s original IP’s.

Seriously, how do you even sell Cyberfrog to someone who doesn’t know who EVS is and has little vested interest in his little corner of the culture wars? CG books suffer from the same issue as mainstream comics, in that they’re being sold primarily as expensive collectibles rather than as stories. It’s just that CG creators have a better time of it because they’re self-employed and are thus able to reap 100% of the profits.
His fan base is loyal enough and the products limited enough that there has been a healthy secondary market (IMO). Only 1,000 of these boxes were put together and sold out quickly. He was asked several times to double the run to 2,000 but didn't. I was expecting them to sell easily between $250-300 but maybe they just took too long to come out on top of the never-ending delays for the next ones. People might be tiring of it.
 
His fan base is loyal enough and the products limited enough that there has been a healthy secondary market (IMO). Only 1,000 of these boxes were put together and sold out quickly. He was asked several times to double the run to 2,000 but didn't. I was expecting them to sell easily between $250-300 but maybe they just took too long to come out on top of the never-ending delays for the next ones. People might be tiring of it.
Ridicule aside - CG went too hard on attacking "enemies" and stopped growing. There's not much left to be said that won't be handled by entropy and social friction.
 
His fan base is loyal enough and the products limited enough that there has been a healthy secondary market (IMO). Only 1,000 of these boxes were put together and sold out quickly. He was asked several times to double the run to 2,000 but didn't. I was expecting them to sell easily between $250-300 but maybe they just took too long to come out on top of the never-ending delays for the next ones. People might be tiring of it.
On the other hand, one evidently just sold today for $450. Looks like the seller sold two at that price, and one of them was sold in the last 24 hours.

It's hard to know why that other guy didn't sell his for less. It's possible that he just changed his mind. But CYBERFROG sells briskly on eBay, in our store and in anyone elses.
 

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