#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

It'll tell you this: I believe Meyer's claims a HELL of a lot more than I believe @Spectre_06's. Which included ridiculous shit like him holding the rank of Captain for about 10 years, and going to the Pentagon to confer with General Mattis. I think if Meyer were stolen valor, he would have gotten popped a long time ago. He wrote a book, that was actually published, under his legal name, that has names, dates, places, units, etc. If he were lying, that would be ballsy as hell.
RCM talks about the army in the way only someone who has been in the army will talk about. No civilian is aware of the insane beraucracy, the tedium of patrols and maintenance or that war being 5 miles away while people going about their jobs.
 
RCM talks about the army in the way only someone who has been in the army will talk about. No civilian is aware of the insane beraucracy, the tedium of patrols and maintenance or that war being 5 miles away while people going about their jobs.
Yeah, I think he's on the up-and-up on the military stuff. I have no reason to doubt any of it, and "not liking him" doesn't seem like a good enough reason for anybody else to.

The only thing that's kinda eyebrow raising is that he made E-5 within four years of service in the Marines. That's not impossible, but it is definitely impressive. Then again, I suppose that wouldn't necessarily disrupt the "Simple Zack" stuff, since he was a Machine Gunner. Do you really have to be Einstein in order to competently command other jarheads to turn shit into swiss cheese?
 
Yeah, I think he's on the up-and-up on the military stuff. I have no reason to doubt any of it, and "not liking him" doesn't seem like a good enough reason for anybody else to.

The only thing that's kinda eyebrow raising is that he made E-5 within four years of service in the Marines. That's not impossible, but it is definitely impressive. Then again, I suppose that wouldn't necessarily disrupt the "Simple Zack" stuff, since he was a Machine Gunner. Do you really have to be Einstein in order to competently command other jarheads to turn shit into swiss cheese?
Sgt is hardly a high rank in the military btw. I believe it boils down to either senior squad leader or person in the base dealing with low-level organization stuff.

Googleing it, I got to this explanation: link
It would take at least 3 years and 2 months to get to that rank and since there were people leaving the service or, you, know, dieing, there would be openings.
He was older and smarter than most marines and in a war zone. We laugh about Simple Zack but he is probably single-minded to the point of autistic. The type of a person to work great in the army, at least in lower ranks.
For Fuck's sake, Capn Cummings is a Captain.

A lot of the cow stuff we see may be because there is no organization/senior officer to keep YBZ in check.
 
It's weird because Zack is like a lifer in that he still gets a near regulation haircut long after getting out and uses his time in service as his frame of reference for almost everything.
Suddenly I'm imagining an alternate Comicsgate timeline where Zack and EVS are still on good terms, but Zack is Walter Sobchak, and EVS is The Dude.

Zack: Heavenly father, you have taken Jon Del Arroz's IndieGoGo campaign from us. In your wisdom, Lord, you took it from us, as you took so many bright young Marines at Fallujah...

FROG: God damn it Richard! What the fuck does any of this have to do with Iraq?

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Sgt is hardly a high rank in the military btw. I believe it boils down to either senior squad leader or person in the base dealing with low-level organization stuff.

Googleing it, I got to this explanation: link
It would take at least 3 years and 2 months to get to that rank and since there were people leaving the service or, you, know, dieing, there would be openings.
He was older and smarter than most marines and in a war zone. We laugh about Simple Zack but he is probably single-minded to the point of autistic. The type of a person to work great in the army, at least in lower ranks.
For Fuck's sake, Capn Cummings is a Captain.
A lot of the cow stuff we see may be because there is no organization/senior officer to keep YBZ in check.
It's not, but it carries command responsibility, and according to the link you posted the average time to get to that rank is generally well above the minimums. So he's probably not wrong in his autobiography that he advanced faster than normal.

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For reference, the guy who does the Terminal Lance comic did about the same amount of time in the Marines, also deployed to Iraq in combat arms, but got out as an E-3. Hence the name of the comic. (Speaking of: I wonder if Zack knows Maximilian Uriarte?).

Anyways, the point is, there's many reasons to laugh at Zack, but I don't think he's bullshitting on the military stuff.

Also, we should probably consider him getting shot at might be the genesis of some of Zack's eccentricities. I can only speak for myself, but sometimes I feel a little bad if I shit on him too much.
 
Sgt is hardly a high rank in the military btw. I believe it boils down to either senior squad leader or person in the base dealing with low-level organization stuff.

Googleing it, I got to this explanation: link
It would take at least 3 years and 2 months to get to that rank and since there were people leaving the service or, you, know, dieing, there would be openings.
He was older and smarter than most marines and in a war zone. We laugh about Simple Zack but he is probably single-minded to the point of autistic. The type of a person to work great in the army, at least in lower ranks.
For Fuck's sake, Capn Cummings is a Captain.

A lot of the cow stuff we see may be because there is no organization/senior officer to keep YBZ in check.
Well, we know he can type.

 
It's not, but it carries command responsibility, and according to the link you posted the average time to get to that rank is generally well above the minimums. So he's probably not wrong in his autobiography that he advanced faster than normal.

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For reference, the guy who does the Terminal Lance comic did about the same amount of time in the Marines, also deployed to Iraq in combat arms, but got out as an E-3. Hence the name of the comic. (Speaking of: I wonder if Zack knows Maximilian Uriarte?).

Anyways, the point is, there's many reasons to laugh at Zack, but I don't think he's bullshitting on the military stuff.

Also, we should probably consider him getting shot at might be the genesis of some of Zack's eccentricities. I can only speak for myself, but sometimes I feel a little bad if I shit on him too much.
The Kiwi who read his biography said that his recruiters thought he was too smart for a marine and he also was older than most recruits. It makes sense to be the one who goes into responsibility positions faster than the average marine, because he was not the average marine.

The moment I felt really bad for YBZ was in an EVS livestream lost in history. There were only 3 people on, probably EVS, YBZ and Cecil (or Malin) and they were talking gangster movies.
So EVS asks YBZ: "Would you have ever been a hired killer?" to which Zack looks bewildered.
EVS repeats that and YBZ is clearly confused.
"Are you seriously ask me this?" he finally retorts.
EVS, not getting the hint keeps proding him, so YBZ replies "What do you think a marine is?"
This was the "shit got real" moment and I wouldn't be surprised if this made him too embarassed to go into another livestream and the reason why he does not fit into a comicbook industry of nerds who only know war from missing the point of Rambo movies.

YBZ overreacting to threats by SJWs maybe has a lot to do with him being unable to shoot them back (unlike the other war on terror veteran,Tom King, who tortures Asians to this day)
 
A longer than normal autistic spergathon on my part to commemorate the official end of YBZ CG.

Zack is just out of ammo and throwing empty guns. He cries about unconditional love but he wouldn't die for anyone in CG, nor should that be a problem. Mr. Meyer has a lot of pride in owning his accomplishments without much help from anyone else. He certainly respected Sciverfrog's abilities but he probably views accepting help and/or advice from EVS as taking away from his own story and up until his biggest failure in giving upon the Waid lawsuit, I'd be inclined to agree. Zack was absolutely the heart of what made all this fun to watch. Sciverfrog initially brought a sense of big time talent to it all, but that impression has been replaced by the fact that he's really just a glorified cover artist whose only virtue is knowing how to position spergs around himself for maximum personal benefit. Very useful in the YouTube age, but it's a remnant of growing up in a broken home and it perpetuates a vicious cycle with every single one of his designated "friends."

But beyond anything Sciverfrog or his dumbass Wart Crampain could have done, it was Zack's great capitulation to Waid that did in CG. That alone seemed to go against everything we thought we knew about him. Not only did he forfeit the right to call out the single biggest bully on the establishment side, he threw away the donations of those who had intended for him to fight to the end with that bastard. That's when the core of what allowed Sciverfrog's CG to sweep the niche nation truly died. We wanted to see how far this David could go. He had knocked Goliath senseless but he stopped short of cutting his head off and shook hands and promised never to talk about him anymore. Then there was the onslaught of all these dopey google news keyword comics and the disastrous KMart Bisexual Light special. He could have gone back to Jawbreakers if he really wanted to. These are comic book characters, they get resurrected all the time in millions of different ways.

I don't think it was a matter of running out of ideas as much as it was readjusting his own self image. It seems like the success really got to his head and suddenly what he thought he was about wasn't good enough. Then when people reacted poorly to his bad moves, he really started to withdraw. I seem to recall this started to happen right around the time he decided to do an interview with a guy who was obviously looking to do a hatchet job on him instead of say, Joe Rogan. It might have been the first time Richard was the subject of a meme. That can be tough, but for a vet like him I thought he would get over it. Now I don't think he ever has. Apparently, war in the Middle East and war with Mark Waid didn't leave him feeling as exposed as much as the internet community did. He knows he can't rely on internet personalities to shield him so the only way out is to withdraw. So he we are and his regression is nearly complete.

All that remains is what came before: independent creators with something to prove and Scivergate with a solar system consisting of mostly asteroid belts but only a few planets.

TLDR: The big names will always be big names and people will always buy their comics. Big guys can talk smack and take the punches financially. If you're a little guy that likes to talk smack and can't afford to get sued, stay out. If you're starting out in comics, be prepared to be someone else's soap dish until you make it big. Deviate from this and you shall be buck broken in more ways than one.
Big names like...Mandy Summers?
 
I'm disappointed in Zack, but the more posts I read the more I kinda get it. I can'tstand watching any of these long winded streams anymore, I can't imagine having to be in one. And I've reached points where I just said *fuck it* to stuff I had previously been passionate about many times, of course I never actually go paid for them so it was a tad different.

I guess I get it, but at the same time I've never had the opportunity Zack has had so I guess that's why I'm disappointed/bewildered at the whole state of affairs.

It has dawned on me now that Zack has seemingly joined the Smiller/Tenapple club of former Frog friends that fuck off, although so far it has seemingly been without much fanfare.

Also seeing that vid of Nerdrotic up there just brought back all the feelings I had with the whole fandom menace/whatever crew. How does anyone take these culture warrior/anti SJW types seriously when they consoom/analyze/obsess/act the exact same as the people they supposedly hate?
 
Nah, he's been getting that shit done for a while.

He did this video for his The Frozen Chosin Kickstarter campaign back in 2014.


Between that haircut and the color of that shirt, it almost looks like he's still active duty. And this was 4 years before the Jim Jefferies thing.
It isn't so much that YBZ is simple, he's also incredibly cheap and he chose the cheapest possible place to get a haircut and they still managed to fuck up the same easy haircut almost every WW2 vet got until the day they died. I remember EVS ribbing him about the haircut and Zack's response was, "yeah but I ended up getting it for free".
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I watched this video this morning. Is it blocked at my work or did a Zach minion/paypiggie report it?
 
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I watched this video this morning. Is it blocked at my work or did a Zach minion/paypiggie report it?
They probably took it down.

Watched it this morning, then ended up reading the free comic.
Let me tell you something, YBZ got much better with scene transition and story flow in Jawbreakers and Iron Sight.
And no, I am not complimenting those two books.

If you don't believe me...
 
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I watched this video this morning. Is it blocked at my work or did a Zach minion/paypiggie report it?
I love the idea that someone told Zack the Kiwis were analyzing his haircuts so he went and deleted an 8 year old Vimeo video nobody watched to begin with. Meanwhile the Jefferies interview is still around and stills from that are the most widely known images of YBZ and his shitty haircut.

Anyway, here's a pic of Zack from around the same time his now deleted video was shot, with the same haircut and even the exact same t-shirt.

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Prompted by the Smith/Rock Oscars slap and commemorating a year ago this very week since the Zack Snyder incident, Gary from Nerdrotic / FNT would like to remind us all that the entire affair was "much, much, much overblown" and that all the subsequent recriminations and accusations of cucking in the face of Hollywood - which are well documented in this very thread having been spearheaded by our very own @FROG - were then and are now an "absolutely overblown narrative."

You see, lest you forget, there was a charity going on. A charity, guys. It was a charity. Never forget. They sat there are took it like spanked children for a good fucking reason. Suicide prevention. Nevermind that a major contributing factor for suicide is internalized shame and anger directed inwards. When it's a good cause, you stay silent so no reason for any of that shit here. A charity, guys. It was a charity. Never doubt Jeremy Grigg's leadership. Fuck that noise. They aren't pussies who completely choked when they had their one shot to make good on a key pillar of their movement ("Without Respect We Reject") and then were left looking like bitches by Jeremy. No, they were better than Zack Snyder that day. They put charity before integrity.

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P.S. Could someone give me the QRD on Fandom Menace thread? Should I even bother considering the movement itself is now defunct and the thread appears to never be leaving PG.
It was a charity that Zack Snyder's people kindly asked Geeks and Gamers to NOT associate themselves with, because they didn't want to be tarnished by them. Geeks and Gamers decided to attach their brand to Snyder's charity anyhow, betting that they wouldn't get called out for it out of Snyder's decency.

These guys could have just done their own suicide prevention charity, if it was truly about being charitable and doing good.

It wasn't.

It was about attaching their brand to Zack Snyder and chasing Hollywood clout. They got smacked hard for it and embarrassed everyone, and have been coping ever since.

"Never doubt Jeremy's leadership." lol
 
It is still there, something with the host site. But yes always archive. Never assume a video online will be there next time you look for it.
Yeah, I should have remembered no matter how old or innocuous something may seem, lolcow behavior dictates they attempt to DFE at some point. That apparently wasn't the case this time, but you never know. Archives will be valuable if/when Ya Boi decides to climb a clock tower somewhere.

I'm looking through some of Zack's old campaigns and it's striking how differently he approached stuff just a few short years ago. He's got digital tiers, lots of updates at nearly every step of the process, and treats backers with a modicum of respect. There's even one where he breaks down the approximate dollar cost of doing everything required of his project instead of just telling everyone he spends $25,000 to make a 26 page B&W floppie because trust me guys, it's that expensive.

Amazing what a few years of success and the subsequent stresses of dealing with comics drama did to him. No wonder he wants to go back to being nobody.
 
It was a charity that Zack Snyder's people kindly asked Geeks and Gamers to NOT associate themselves with, because they didn't want to be tarnished by them. Geeks and Gamers decided to attach their brand to Snyder's charity anyhow, betting that they wouldn't get called out for it out of Snyder's decency.

These guys could have just done their own suicide prevention charity, if it was truly about being charitable and doing good.

It wasn't.

It was about attaching their brand to Zack Snyder and chasing Hollywood clout. They got smacked hard for it and embarrassed everyone, and have been coping ever since.

"Never doubt Jeremy's leadership." lol
I actually agree with you on this one. It was never about the charity. Some thing I think that gets over looked, is Jeremy talking to Snyder before the stream. I don't remember what channel it was on( I think FNT) but Jeremy talks about talking to Snyder on the phone(This was a few weeks or so before the big Snyder stream and they were talking about it to hype it up). Jeremy said he told Snyder that he didn't like a lot of his DC movies but he was excited that he would be streaming with them. So Jeremy personally told an obvious narcissist big shoot Hollywood director that he didn't like his DC movies. I really think that had a lot to do with Snyder cucking them.
 
YBZ adds more info to his origin story:
He was too cheap to get a pandora account and because of the ads he went to Youtube for music.
This happened in 2016. Then the algorithm started feeding him with anti-SJW videos like Capn Cummins and Doug Ernst and GG stuff I guess (and probably simping to CBG19 and Ayden Paladin) so he got radicalized and then made his channel when Marvel executive called comic readers racist and the rest is history.

Then throws a blind item about his culture warrior comrades becoming gossip channels and why he is bored with it and definetely not calling out people (which is bad because they are fucking grifters)
IMHO he has gotten 99% blackpilled by now and this is good for him as a person and also the reason why he is a bad youtuber with a stagnated channel.
 
I actually agree with you on this one. It was never about the charity. Some thing I think that gets over looked, is Jeremy talking to Snyder before the stream. I don't remember what channel it was on( I think FNT) but Jeremy talks about talking to Snyder on the phone(This was a few weeks or so before the big Snyder stream and they were talking about it to hype it up). Jeremy said he told Snyder that he didn't like a lot of his DC movies but he was excited that he would be streaming with them. So Jeremy personally told an obvious narcissist big shoot Hollywood director that he didn't like his DC movies. I really think that had a lot to do with Snyder cucking them.
Jeremy added "Uche", a former NFL player, to the Geeks and Gamers team for a sports channel, and Zack Snyder is an NFL fan. So Uche was invited to be a part of the charity, and he tried to back-door Geeks and Gamers to the party.

Evidently, he was able to get Jeremy some brief face time with Snyder. Snyder's people did some research afterwards and told G&G to fuck off. "We'll accept your money, but you cannot associate your brand with our cause."
 
Then throws a blind item about his culture warrior comrades becoming gossip channels and why he is bored with it

When you're right, you're right.

It's the main reason I can't watch most of this stuff anymore. The culture war has becoming such a bore with the way these consoomers just bitch and moan yet continue consooming.
 
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