#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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With inflation annually at around 10 percent, @FROG is going to be loosing money on these projects within a year or 2. The 20 dollars for a 3 dollar floppy isn't that unreasonable with how bad Dark Brandon has fucked up the economy.
 
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Fleetwood said:
Ooof sorry for your loss of money. That money was worth so much more back in 2020. Next time if you really want his books and you're not a simp wait for ebay.

excuses list
  • Crowdfunding isn't shopping
  • It's at the printers
  • It's the printer's fault!
  • There is a paper shortage
  • My Channel is under attack!
  • The Post Office is Cancelling me!
  • The Post Office has gone woke!
  • The few select loyalist youtubers and twitter users getting it just happened to be the first backers
  • It's coming soon, meanwhile back my 10 other campaigns I started since this one
  • DM me your backer info so I can know your identity and harass if you continue to demand the thing you paid for
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Yea that was back when I was newer to and believed in CG in 2020. But viewpoints change when given enough time, and Frog has given that time since the campaign first launched.
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Though this is defiantly not the only reason I no longer believe in CG, and have decided to just sit back and laugh at it. I guess you live and you learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
 
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It doesn't matter if Nerdrotic goes after Tim Pool or Daily Wire. Look at this cap of the stream going on as I wrote this. He has 1/4 Black Garrett who owes his e-fame to Crowder so would be against Daily Wire anyway, then has Adam Crigler who had a split and beef with Pool. So he's just following the default position by associating with them. The relative professionalism of Beuchler has allowed him to get 3K viewers (3075 as I type) and big superberries on a backup channel talking about paranormal junk. I know he does a Patreon stream also where he engages with his donators, and has meetups (Jessie Milestone not welcome). There's not really the paranoia of FROG where every chatter and tweeter and guest is a potential bad actor that must be tracked down or whatever. The FROG way of engaging with the audience is to find their youtube videos with like 20 views and tear them apart on stream. Nerdrotic audience is not really looking to desperately promote their comic project or get work with an aging comic artist either. They might DM him clips of some fat ass calling their youtuber pals "Zeros", but mostly they just give him money. He doesn't even need a product. This is regardless of if you think his content sucks, he's a meth head, etc valid points. Nerdrotic just massively winning over FROG.

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Hello everybody!!
This would be my first post. Fortunately it's about this opportunist, Gary... it should be easy, i just want to state the obvious.
He never had anything authentically relevant to say. Please try and find a memorable quote, i'll wait.
He won't "go after" anybody -oh, except Doomcock, Jessi.. you know, the true blue TFM. He's classy like that.
He will always play safe.
He'll never be honest with you.
Go ahead give Gary & co your priceless time. I sure won't. Hey maybe you'll learn to be a winner too, sure, why not.
 
Mad? Within a day or two after unsubscribing from his channel, I forgot Perch even existed. I only checked him out because YaBoi recommended him. It was one of my first hints that Zack was a retard.

Perch is the dictionary definition of mid. Perch is the earthly avatar of cardboard. The dullest shade of gray you can think of should be named 'perch gray'. No-one will ever paint a picture with perch gray paint because as they watch it ramble its way out of the tube, they'll forget what they're doing and wander off, or fall asleep.

I typed this out as I listened to Perches video embedded above. I don't think it had a point, or a conclusion. It was just Perch making Perch noises to prove to the world that Perch once existed.
 
FROG said:
That's not what crowdfunding is, though. This isn't an Amazon order.

It would be as if someone had a nice idea for a restaurant, and if I donated $25 to it's development and construction, I could have a meal in there when it's finished.
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Except that's not how that works.

Even reservations are free.

Your 'model', which isn't yours and existed before you, is a pretty bad one overall. It puts all risks on consumers and very little if any on the person who stands to profit most.

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Three years later it's finished, although behind schedule, and people who invested are being invited in to eat. Meanwhile, a bunch of clowns who never supported
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Potential customers and market participants. Remember when CG insisted on not calling paying people fans because of the sense of entitlement companies had?

FROG said:
the creation of the restaurant are standing outside heckling patrons and saying, "PEOPLE STARVED TO DEATH WAITING TO EAT HERE."
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No, there saying, through your tortured analogy that doesn't exist in real life, that they aren't paying you for dinner a year from now only to get it three years later.

That's an actual analogy. Going to a restaurant, waiting for hours as a waiter fails to properly attend your table, and then when the food arrives, late, it's passable.

FROG said:
It took a long time to make this comic book and all of the items associated with it. It was a huge task to accomplish
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People do it in a third of the time you did without any of the drama or bitching.

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but it's finished.
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Finally.

FROG said:
I'm shipping the books as quickly as I can now, and I sincerely hope readers will enjoy what we've done here.
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They better, given how overpriced, late, and rude the creator was.

Newman's Lovechild said:
Mad? Within a day or two after unsubscribing from his channel, I forgot Perch even existed. I only checked him out because YaBoi recommended him. It was one of my first hints that Zack was a retard.

Perch is the dictionary definition of mid. Perch is the earthly avatar of cardboard. The dullest shade of gray you can think of should be named 'perch gray'. No-one will ever paint a picture with perch gray paint because as they watch it ramble its way out of the tube, they'll forget what they're doing and wander off, or fall asleep.

I typed this out as I listened to Perches video embedded above. I don't think it had a point, or a conclusion. It was just Perch making Perch noises to prove to the world that Perch once existed.
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It's hard to imagine anyone who says nothing while waisting so much air as Perch. He goes to such lengths not to take a position, he may as well not bother.
 
FROG said:
Uh, yes? https://www.ebay.com/itm/2559613759...uid=cnhaLYBKT52&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

But it's better to read them. They're great.
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That's a very interesting auction, especially the bidding. There were only two total bidders who haven't bid on anything else anywhere on eBay in the past 30 days yet both decided that this was the auction to bid up? This is just... weird. Suspicious even.

The auction starts at $50, presumably the seller's break-even point. I don't know what to make of this bid activity, it doesn't make any sense.

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The winner has bid on nothing else for the past 30 days but somehow has three bid retractions in the past year? eBay tends to frown on that. The whole thing looks sketch. This auction ended almost two weeks ago too and there aren't any other listings sold besides a bunch of Rekt stuff from Frog's eBay store.

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I did get a kick out of revisiting the original IGG campaign page to figure out what the seller initially paid (~$50-$75 with shipping?). I guess you couldn't edit this out after a certain period of time?

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VERY important! That's a promise!
 
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SaidNoOneEver said:
That's a very interesting auction, especially the bidding. There were only two total bidders who haven't bid on anything else anywhere on eBay in the past 30 days yet both decided that this was the auction to bid up? This is just... weird. Suspicious even.

The auction starts at $50, presumably the seller's break-even point. I don't know what to make of this bid activity, it doesn't make any sense.

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The winner has bid on nothing else for the past 30 days but somehow has three bid retractions in the past year? eBay tends to frown on that. The whole thing looks sketch. This auction ended almost two weeks ago too and there aren't any other listings sold besides a bunch of Rekt stuff from Frog's eBay store.

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I did get a kick out of revisiting the original IGG campaign page to figure out what the seller initially paid (~$50-$75 with shipping?). I guess you couldn't edit this out after a certain period of time?

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VERY important! That's a promise!
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Some intriguing points here. Much like the mystery of why three different people (so far) leaving positive comments on indiegogo don't show up on any social security or other databases.
I think the beans were spilled when the one whiny paypig on indiegogo said he was SIX different backers, and why hadn't the other four been sent yet and could he cancel them and consolidate. Make the math easier and assume each sucker backs five times as five "different backers" and we arrive roughly at the same magic 500 number - the approximate number of remaining CG victims prepared to keep wasting money because they are fatherless losers.
 
SaidNoOneEver said:
That's a very interesting auction, especially the bidding. There were only two total bidders who haven't bid on anything else anywhere on eBay in the past 30 days yet both decided that this was the auction to bid up? This is just... weird. Suspicious even.

The auction starts at $50, presumably the seller's break-even point. I don't know what to make of this bid activity, it doesn't make any sense.

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The winner has bid on nothing else for the past 30 days but somehow has three bid retractions in the past year? eBay tends to frown on that. The whole thing looks sketch. This auction ended almost two weeks ago too and there aren't any other listings sold besides a bunch of Rekt stuff from Frog's eBay store.

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I did get a kick out of revisiting the original IGG campaign page to figure out what the seller initially paid (~$50-$75 with shipping?). I guess you couldn't edit this out after a certain period of time?

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My son was 11 in 2020, I ordered a book for him for christmas, 2 years later he is fuck all intersted in comics. and as he chases women around at 14 the book has still not arived ..... Its a good lesson. There is no Santa Clause, and Underpantaclause is Ethan Van Sciver in real life. It was a good grift, you had me for awhile.
 
FROG said:
That's not what crowdfunding is, though. This isn't an Amazon order.

It would be as if someone had a nice idea for a restaurant, and if I donated $25 to it's development and construction, I could have a meal in there when it's finished.

Three years later it's finished, although behind schedule, and people who invested are being invited in to eat. Meanwhile, a bunch of clowns who never supported the creation of the restaurant are standing outside heckling patrons and saying, "PEOPLE STARVED TO DEATH WAITING TO EAT HERE."

It took a long time to make this comic book and all of the items associated with it. It was a huge task to accomplish, but it's finished. I'm shipping the books as quickly as I can now, and I sincerely hope readers will enjoy what we've done here.
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Oh yeah it's time to get Frogsplained! Dude, we totally frogot what crowdfunding is!!! Shit!!!! So basically what you're saying is that despite you having been a comic book vet for decades and a crowdfunding vet for some 5 years, that no one should expect their "perks" they reasonably expected to receive in a timely fashion or in your case, what you promised based on past experience? Wow! That really clears it all up you massive dipshit.

Did anybody tell you that the difference between a normal transaction and this one is that fact that if you run away with the money and refuse to deliver anything no one can take you to court, but you will be ruining your professional reputation all the same and you will be sentenced to hearing from disgruntled customers investors until you make good on the shit you promised... which in your case will be the rest of your career. Alienate whoever is left to foolishly invest in your dumbass autobiographical allegory.

Tier Unlocked!: Vicious Cycle of losing customers investors to bad attitude, hating them even more in the process, talking to them even worse than before, and losing even more customers investors.

Enjoy that perk!

Edit: CG was an investor movement the whole time!
 
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Twitter Is Cancer said:
Some intriguing points here. Much like the mystery of why three different people (so far) leaving positive comments on indiegogo don't show up on any social security or other databases.
I think the beans were spilled when the one whiny paypig on indiegogo said he was SIX different backers, and why hadn't the other four been sent yet and could he cancel them and consolidate. Make the math easier and assume each sucker backs five times as five "different backers" and we arrive roughly at the same magic 500 number - the approximate number of remaining CG victims prepared to keep wasting money because they are fatherless losers.
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FWIW, the public names on IGG can be whatever you choose. They're different from the shipping names/addresses.

People backing multiple times on IGG isn't a secret and a lot of campaigns are centered around it. Every perk you see on the main page is its own backing with its own shipping. There's no limit to the perks an account can back.

Perks themselves can have add-ons, which are considered a part of the same backing/package, but not every creator uses them, since it's easier to process pre-made tiers instead of highly customized orders. Multiple perk backing also has the benefit of inflating the numbers.

This is different from Kickstarter where an account can only back one tier and whatever add-ons are available to that tier.
 
That Other Dude's Persona said:
FWIW, the public names on IGG can be whatever you choose. They're different from the shipping names/addresses.

People backing multiple times on IGG isn't a secret and a lot of campaigns are centered around it. Every perk you see on the main page is its own backing with its own shipping. There's no limit to the perks an account can back.

Perks themselves can have add-ons, which are considered a part of the same backing/package, but not every creator uses them, since it's easier to process pre-made tiers instead of highly customized orders. Multiple perk backing also has the benefit of inflating the numbers.

This is different from Kickstarter where an account can only back one tier and whatever add-ons are available to that tier.
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So in fact on indiegogo one more little accidental scam is to claim thousands of backers, when in fact there are only hundreds and "backers" is a more or less deliberate misrepresentation by indiegogo instead of using a more honest word like sales or purchases or something.
Makes perfect sense why CG creeps would love indiegogo so much it's tailor made for every kind of abuse and fraud.
 
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