#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Mister Dongs said:
Chuck for his part seems to doing everything in his power to help Eric, describing him as "finally a serious person to wage this fight with."
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Because Eric July isn't another fiction writer or artist, or any kind of artist, really. He's a bitness man selling merch. Chuck and Eric together are probably a very good fit temperamentally: one minding the till, bumbling PR, and struggling to pronounce "entrepreneur" while the other focuses on making Eric's version of the Burger King Kid's Club gang the best it can be. I'd assume any advice or counsel Chuck gives Eric is done in private and not on stream, since as I've posted before (which I kinda regret ever doing since it turns out you can't realistically pivot to a serious conversation on race and culture when you've called a guy a nigger for fun 6,000 times) that's a huge no-no and something EVS probably at least subconsciously felt he needed to do. Eric was supposed to present himself as one of Little Lebowski's Urban Achievers of promise and in exchange for emotionally validating EVS, EVS would give Eric advice in front of God and everybody on YT. lul

In retrospect, I'm surprised this falling-out didn't happen sooner since they both have (un)-complementary, polarized delusions relative to each other. EVS actually thinks he's good at executing a business and uses that delusion to cope about his fickleness, procrastination, and general neuroticism as an artist and human being instead of owning it. Eric July actually thinks he's a creative person and uses preciousness around his "creativity" to protect his ego, save face, pre-bunk criticism, and avoid owning up to both the inevitable mistakes he was going to make as a noob as well as the preventable, stupid ones he should never have made, like the whole "ISOM" thing. To the extent that Eric allows himself to relax into a complementary relationship with writers and artists like Chuck, he may hopefully find himself less compelled to fight detractors lurking around every corner and internet trolls loitering in the parking lot and become less precious about the creative side.

There was a positive version of Eric's situation that was explained by a genuine fellow Alabama blue gum Darth Vader himself many years ago in a film called Field of Dreams. All Eric ever had to do was build it. He didn't have to reciprocate slap fights, dig up his long dead great grandpappy, fake-it-till-you-make-it, or any of this other lame frustrating shit that's turned a lot of well meaning people - including some of this very site - into liars and unwitting simps. The content never really mattered because they will come. Monetizing the haters was an unforced error because still they will come.


Eric, just pretend the white guy is you, James Earl Jones is your grandpappy or whatever, the ginger is internet drama, and baseball is your self-insert YT business merch for white nerds looking for validation and absolution.

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Captain Manning said:
Imagine being so enamored with a failed L.A. Comedian and his self-confessed pedo sidekick that you'd actually say the guy who invented Bane and one of the best runs of Punisher ever can't make a million dollar comic book. It's insane.
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Make? Sure. Sell? No.
It's a question of salesmanship, which even Dixon admits he doesn't really have.
Of course it's July's comic and he's the one selling it not Chuck, which is what makes Rekieta's concerns so asinine,




Ike Aim said:
Because Eric July isn't another fiction writer or artist, or any kind of artist, really. He's a bitness man selling merch. Chuck and Eric together are probably a very good fit temperamentally: one minding the till, bumbling PR, and struggling to pronounce "entrepreneur" while the other focuses on making Eric's version of the Burger King Kid's Club gang the best it can be. I'd assume any advice or counsel Chuck gives Eric is done in private and not on stream, since as I've posted before (which I kinda regret ever doing since it turns out you can't realistically pivot to a serious conversation on race and culture when you've called a guy a nigger for fun 6,000 times) that's a huge no-no and something EVS probably at least subconsciously felt he needed to do. Eric was supposed to present himself as one of Little Lebowski's Urban Achievers of promise and in exchange for emotionally validating EVS, EVS would give Eric advice in front of God and everybody on YT. lul
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I think the most important thing here is Chuck's about to hit 70 years old. He doesn't really have 10 more years to wait before a better version of Eric July comes along at this point.
Especially given his dealings with Vox Dei and Ya Boi Zack and their future prospects.



Conveniently, Chuck touched on the matter of CG a few hours ago on his channel.

Eric July in particular, all of his books are trades. They're all 100 pages or more. He doesn't do pamphlets.
He's putting up numbers that are as high or higher than most of Marvel and DC's monthly output. And this is for trades, not for a, you know, $7, 20 page pamphlet. This is for a, you know, 100 and 120 page book. Those are incredible numbers. And he's obviously beating the numbers on their trades. So this is a big chunk out of their market share.

But, you know, the American comic companies have bigger problems than the crowdfunding guys, than the comics gate people, and that would be manga. And I don't know, there's nothing they can do about it. It's too late.

Manga has taken over. Most comic book readers in the United States today are reading Japanese comics. They're not reading American comics. And the American comics maybe 20 years ago could have done something about that, but they didn't bother. They just kept going back to the same, well, you know, reboots and another crisis, another secret war, and, you know, just doubling down on the superheroes all the time. And that was obviously not what the audience wanted. And even in American comics, the big two don't rate. If you look at the graphic novel sales in the United States, very rarely do you see a DC or Marvel publication. They're usually smaller independent publishers or book publishers who have a graphic novel. And they're more universal, more young adult or adult, even adult books.

And the thing is, you know, what are we supposed to do as comic book creators? The big companies didn't want us. They won't hire us. We're still able to do this stuff. A lot of us are still at the peak of our creative abilities. Are we supposed to just go away? Are we supposed to just let American comics die? We're supposed to let DC and Marvel kill them? No, we're not going to do that. We're comic book lifers.

Everybody I've talked about is maybe they've only become one recently. They are now a comic book lifer. They are in the game. They are liking this medium, loving this medium, and they want to explore it further and exploit it. And by exploit, I mean in a good way. You know, find audiences, make stuff that readers want to read. You know, I mean, I enjoy creating this stuff because I'm creating these characters and these worlds and everything else because I dig it. When someone else likes it, when they respond to it favorably, that's icing on the cake.
I mean, that's great, you know, that I'm in a position where I can do this stuff.

And I'm not going to give it up just because someone says I can't or someone says I voted for the wrong person or, you know, I don't have a right. I don't have a right. Come on, I've earned my right. I paid my dues.
I've been in comics for a long time and I have no plans on departing from comics anytime soon. So whatever Comicsgate means to you, I don't know. You know, what it means to me is they just put a name on the system of discrimination practiced by Marvel and DC.

Marvel and DC created Comicsgate, whether they meant to or not.
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Captain Manning said:
Yep. That's "new Rekieta." His thread has been an absolute trip for the better part of a year now.


I am wondering if there's gonna be words between Dixon and Rekieta. Nick had him on his show three years ago.

Imagine being so enamored with a failed L.A. Comedian and his self-confessed pedo sidekick that you'd actually say the guy who invented Bane and one of the best runs of Punisher ever can't make a million dollar comic book. It's insane.

It's just crossed the $750,000 mark, BTW.

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He'd have to start it I think. Dixon doesn't seem to do that unless put in that position.

@Mister Dongs it's funny to hear Chuck's spill, and I agree muggas seventy something he's looking to get paid. But it's funny to hear Dixon, because this is the EXACT OPPOSITE BS that Bottles and the FNT crowd are talking about.

Comics should be inclusive, Dixon says. They are supposed to have broad appeal.

But bottles the druggy said they're supposed to be niche?
 
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I’ve noticed a lot of hard cope from the CG orbiter channels YouTube puts in my algorithm. Those NPCs are going after Eric July hard because he makes Frogman sad. They’ve really turned on Ya Boi Zak. Probably after he’s started speaking positively about July and maybe has a few coded digs EVS.

The idea of running to make a video to defend the honour of ann Internet daddy is completely gay. Not even ghey, it’s actually just gay.
 
FedPostalService said:
I’ve noticed a lot of hard cope from the CG orbiter channels YouTube puts in my algorithm. Those NPCs are going after Eric July hard because he makes Frogman sad. They’ve really turned on Ya Boi Zak. Probably after he’s started speaking positively about July and maybe has a few coded digs EVS.

The idea of running to make a video to defend the honour of ann Internet daddy is completely gay. Not even ghey, it’s actually just gay.
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Imagine what Ro, Panboy and the rest of those Warcampaign losers would be doing to July right now if they were still a thing.
 
FedPostalService said:
I’ve noticed a lot of hard cope from the CG orbiter channels YouTube puts in my algorithm. Those NPCs are going after Eric July hard because he makes Frogman sad. They’ve really turned on Ya Boi Zak. Probably after he’s started speaking positively about July and maybe has a few coded digs EVS.

The idea of running to make a video to defend the honour of ann Internet daddy is completely gay. Not even ghey, it’s actually just gay.
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Like geek getaway? That dude is like in his 40s.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
Like geek getaway? That dude is like in his 40s.
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yeah, that was weird for him to attach himself to this Eric July drama. I guess the Amico well is pretty dry. too bad his shitty kermit voice wont make him mainstream.

at least even Ninja Kitty has the sense to bow out.
 
Mister Dongs said:
Of course it's July's comic and he's the one selling it not Chuck, which is what makes Rekieta's concerns so asinine,
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I think "concerns" is the wrong word. I think he was just spitting venom and no intellectualization was put into it whatsoever. It's not just July either. He's been saying all sorts of nasty crap about Null lately too. Probably more so. Behold unhinged MATI Rekieta as he circles the drain.

I'd put what Rekieta said about Dixon on the same shelf as Liam Grey proclaiming tits and ass don't sell. Same energy. Also dumb and wrong.
 
Mister Dongs said:
My only question is, where was this guy back in 2018? He was sorely needed in CG back then. Instead there was The Caesar of Warcampaign. The man that innovated "the spite campaign". The guy who tirelessly promoted The Littlest Umbrella and Cash Grab.
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I agree with you there, 100%! Most of what you say is ..comme-ci comme-ca, but you got this one right.
SaidNoOneEver said:
Imagine what Ro, Panboy and the rest of those Warcampaign losers would be doing to July right now if they were still a thing.
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Yes, and they would fuck up everything. All the work. Everybody.

Sourskittles said:
Probably the same thing Dick, Vito, Nick and EVS are doing to him now. As far as I know Warcampaign never actually went to Anna's sister's grave to piss on it.
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Wrong! Victim much? July wants what he can't have - appreciation, respect, support. These you gain with MERIT. I will never respect this schmuck.
Lousy comics, lying, bullying, threatening.. The FNT frauds are proclaiming him "the king of comics".
I'll be here to watch his fall.
 
Sourskittles said:
Probably the same thing Dick, Vito, Nick and EVS are doing to him now. As far as I know Warcampaign never actually went to Anna's sister's grave to piss on it.
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What has Frog and Nick done? Just real speak.

Not piss on any graves. Hate having to be the responsible voice on the farms, but while Racket's is a disgusting piece of trash, his sin and Frog's are basically acting like going and pissing on someones grave stone isn't fucking repulsive.

And before team sports kicks on, I'll add here I'm team DON'T PISS ON A FUCKING GRAVE!
 
jspit2.0 said:
What has Frog and Nick done? Just real speak.

Not piss on any graves. Hate having to be the responsible voice on the farms, but while Racket's is a disgusting piece of trash, his sin and Frog's are basically acting like going and pissing on someones grave stone isn't fucking repulsive.

And before team sports kicks on, I'll add here I'm team DON'T PISS ON A FUCKING GRAVE!
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I think if you broke it down most people would say its a light collaboration on the harassment whether its through defending the actions on twitter, coming up with legal arguments on live streams to defend said grave pissing etc. If you want to be conspiratorial there could theoretically be some texts or DM's between Rekieta and JuJu on how close they can dance to the line without getting sued. I am speaking hypothetically and have no evidence of such coordination, neither am I alleging it exists.

Although Nick himself Isnt above conspiratorial thinking if you roll back the clock to the Vic Mignonga lawsuit. Everybody there was in on it and dms were flying and actions were coordinated etc. if you asked him back then. Now we are in the new era were nobody does that stuff anymore and no coordination ever happens.
 
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