#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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It sure seems like he has amnesia and forget that comic book industry has always been built on getting people to buy variants.

That's the problem with him. Whatever he may be in the past, he's now just making shit up just to go after his targets. My favorite is him decrying July as a failing businessman when his own "comic book artist career" is completely in the gutter. Whether or not July is really failing, Zack is the last person to make such pronouncements without coming off as a retard with zero self-awareness.
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Ethan has had variant covers on his @FROG comics. He needs to rein in his pet retard before he damages his brand.
 
Why would Eric sell his company? It does well enough but not to the point of selling the company. Especially since Isom has sentimental value to him.
 
MisterCH 86 said:
The KKK I already knew was pretty much dead by now....the Yakuza on the other hand I had no idea was practically dead. Huh.....I guess the Japanese Mafia lost it's touch.
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I think it's more because Burakumin have more legitimate career options these days, they've made a lot of progress. I mean I think the guy in charge of Silent Hill f is a Burakumin. Years ago, he'd have had no good options other than crime.
 
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deskgum said:
It doesn't even seem plausible to me. Until the readership is so huge that Eric July's fanbase makes up a negligible portion of it, it doesn't seem to me that you can reasonably expect to separate them.
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Yeah, and he has no real reason to sell when he makes money from all the projects anyway.
 
Didn't this Nigger call James Gunn a pedophile on one of his Livestream?
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KiwiChud said:
Didn't this Nigger call James Gunn a pedophile on one of his Livestream?
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I dunno about his livestreams (there have been so many), but he expressed serious distain for Gunn twice on KF. Once in this thread, and once in TUG's. Both back in 2020. So it's fair to say he was anti-Gunn.

Once again, him and Zack sucking up to D.C. now is just weird. In Ethan's case, I really think he's trying to get back in their good graces because the whole Comicsgate grift is dying.
 
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Didn't this Nigger call James Gunn a pedophile on one of his Livestream?
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Captain Manning said:
I dunno about his livestreams (there have been so many), but he expressed serious distain for Gunn twice on KF. Once in this thread, and once in TUG's. Both back in 2020. So it's fair to say he was anti-Gunn.

Once again, him and Zack sucking up to D.C. now is just weird. In Ethan's case, I really think he's trying to get back in their good graces because the whole Comicsgate grift is dying.
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I too think it is because Gunn works for DC now. Also, I will have to point out that CG is dying partly for the same reasons he will not be hired to work for DC again: He does not deliver the product on time. DC will not hire a chronically late idiot that run out of most good will.
 
Incecticyder said:
I too think it is because Gunn works for DC now. Also, I will have to point out that CG is dying partly for the same reasons he will not be hired to work for DC again: He does not deliver the product on time. DC will not hire a chronically late idiot that run out of most good will.
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I agree he's got a snowball's chance in hell of getting back in, but I really think he's trying.

He's looking at July's success, realizing he's not gonna be able to take him down, realizing CG is dying, and then... before you know it... he's looking to roll back the clock, and his career, to a pre-CG state.

Like Zack, he's dressing it up as "Well, the problem has been fixed now," but we all know that's bullshit.
 
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He's an old man by industry standards, he will be expensive compared to some inexperienced activist genderqueer trans blubberwhale that can submit work on time and works for cheap, he has a reputation of being an alt-right chud even if he tries to pivot, his return to DC will be flooded with outrage from Bluesky, he can't deliver work on time and needs wrangling - which won't be easy considering his ego and delusions, he is a pathological liar that starts and creates divisions within any group he affiliates with, he licks urinals, and there are years of embarrassing YouTube videos that are PR disasters waiting to happen.

That and the trannies ruling DC will walk if he gets rehired to DC.

So yeah, unless he somehow manages to give Gunn AND Zaslav the best blow jobs they have ever experienced, he isn't moving his fat ass from his Trashchat seat anytime soon.
 
Captain Manning said:
I agree he's got a snowball's chance in hell of getting back in, but I really think he's trying.

He's looking at July's success, realizing he's not gonna be able to take him down, realizing CG is dying, and then... before you know it... he's looking to roll back the clock, and his career, to a pre-CG state.

Like Zack, he's dressing it up as "Well, the problem has been fixed now," but we all know that's bullshit.
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I think if they had a better work ethic (and, in Zack's case, his weird ideas about how to do everything and inability to listen to civilians were done with), they would get DC jobs. At least nowadays that their troons are getting them into trouble. Of course they suck and thus they failed at getting those jobs even as the troons are getting fired in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination. The indies were the proving ground to see how one works and interacts with the customers. Needless to say, they disappointed.

BlankSpaceBaby said:
He's an old man by industry standards, he will be expensive compared to some inexperienced activist genderqueer trans blubberwhale that can submit work on time and works for cheap, he has a reputation of being an alt-right chud even if he tries to pivot, his return to DC will be flooded with outrage from Bluesky, he can't deliver work on time and needs wrangling - which won't be easy considering his ego and delusions, he is a pathological liar that starts and creates divisions within any group he affiliates with, he licks urinals, and there are years of embarrassing YouTube videos that are PR disasters waiting to happen.

That and the trannies ruling DC will walk if he gets rehired to DC.

So yeah, unless he somehow manages to give Gunn AND Zaslav the best blow jobs they have ever experienced, he isn't moving his fat ass from his Trashchat seat anytime soon.
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I disagree with one point: DC would hire a conservative artist talent. If not now, in a year or two as the crackdown on DEI and the embarrassing attitude of the people of gender continues. Anti-Antifa raids, death threats and more will keep the trans "talent" in the news for all the wrong reasons. He will not be hired but not because he is an expensive conservative artist (as opposed to the cheaper trans trenders that get books canceled and refunded with a single post as that is more expensive on the long run), he will not be hired because, as you said, he is bad coworker, a liar, a disgusting idiot, an egotist and easy to start fights.

It does not matter if the trannies walk, if Bluesky erupts or whatever as long as he does his job well, on time, with minimal drama on his side and, in general, makes it worth it to keep him around. Problem is that he has been shown to not do his job well, he is never on time, he starts the drama all the time and is, in general, not worth it to keep him around.

The trannies could revolt but, at this point, most companies would be willing to take the hit for a good worker. He is not a good worker though.
 
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I think if they had a better work ethic (and, in Zack's case, his weird ideas about how to do everything and inability to listen to civilians were done with), they would get DC jobs.
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See, I disagree there. I think between spending years shitting on them, and the fact the left seldom forgives (and would raise all manner of hell), his history as the patriarch of CG is a deal breaker. Maybe some day that would be less of concern, but I don't think we're there yet.

I mean, fucking hell, Disney just unsuspended Jimmy Kimmel.

But even if I'm wrong here, we agree that his shitty work ethic (which will not change), is enough to throw a wrench in the whole thing.

Ethan is not John Milius. He's not the rare conservative (to whatever extent Ethan even is one) the establishment will tolerate because they know his projects are usually very profitable.
 
Captain Manning said:
See, I disagree there. I think between spending years shitting on them, and the fact the left seldom forgives (and would raise all manner of hell), his history as the patriarch of CG is a deal breaker. Maybe some day that would be less of concern, but I don't think we're there yet.

I mean, fucking hell, Disney just unsuspended Jimmy Kimmel.
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No no, I get it but there is a reason I said "DC jobs". Warner is more desperate for money than Disney and slightly more conservative. They were willing to keep EVS around even after he admitted to voting for Cheeto Hitler during the height of TDS. It was the harassment from the "talent" that forced him to go. If he had proven himself an indie "workhorse" and/or "darling", DC would certainly consider him as the troons are getting arrested and/or fired.

As for Jimmy Kimmel, he is on the "We are keeping him but we will not renew him" list, imo. He does not have the ratings to be controversial. Not to mention that even Disney has money problems. They are not as bad as Warner but they are canceling the occasional leftist project.

Captain Manning said:
But even if I'm wrong here, we agree that his shitty work ethic (which will not change), is enough to throw a wrench in the whole thing.

Ethan is not John Milius. He's not the rare conservative (to whatever extent Ethan even is one) the establishment will tolerate because they know his projects are usually profitable.
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Yes, he is not someone who can afford to be lazy. You want my opinion? I think he should have become friends with Eric and Tim Lim. He could have mooched of their fanbase for a bit instead of making enemies out of them and losing those who wanted to support both but sided with Eric and Tim. He could have been inviting them to podcasts too. Would it be perfect? No, but better for sure. He would have alienated them eventually due to his personality and negative brand association but that is better than this.
 
Incecticyder said:
You want my opinion? I think he should have become friends with Eric and Tim Lim.
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Well, he was. For awhile.

The problem there is that Ethan insisted on being the Grand Poobah of Comicsgate, that everybody obeys, whereas Lim and July (wisely) did not want to grant him that level of power.

A better way of putting what you're saying is that he should have kept his fucking ego in check, and not lost Lim and July as allies.
 
Captain Manning said:
Well, he was. For awhile.

The problem there is that Ethan insisted on being the Grand Poobah of Comicsgate, that everybody obeys, whereas Lim and July (wisely) did not want to grant him that level of power.

A better way of putting what you're saying is that he should have kept his fucking ego in check, and not lost Lim and July as allies.
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True, he was somewhat friendly but it was with the assumption that they would recognize him as king. I am talking more genuine friendship or at least the appearance of it. Imo, he should have milked them for all their worth instead of forcing the title down their throats. Everyone pretty much considered him CG King, no reason to ruffle feathers.

Now, there are two sides: Those that deliver product and those that do not. He should have never drawn that line. No one would have noticed or cared before he did.
 
Incecticyder said:
No no, I get it but there is a reason I said "DC jobs". Warner is more desperate for money than Disney and slightly more conservative.
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They are desperate for money, true, but they are also at least as desperate to cut costs. I'm honestly surprised they haven't outsourced the art to Brazil, Vietnam or Argentina by now. Of course, there is also the looming thread of cheap AI art, I suspect Warner will be the first to go for it in comics when they think they can get away with it.
 
Mr Processor said:
They are desperate for money, true, but they are also at least as desperate to cut costs.
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Admittedly they do but EVS would be willing to take lower rates for DC royalties. He cannot afford not to.

Mr Processor said:
I'm honestly surprised they haven't outsourced the art to Brazil, Vietnam or Argentina by now.
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That is true, why have they not?

Mr Processor said:
Of course, there is also the looming thread of cheap AI art, I suspect Warner will be the first to go for it in comics when they think they can get away with it.
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AI art has a lot of issues. I doubt they would do it without being really careful but then again, they are idiots.
 
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