#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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So I'm curious why cg/fandom meance thinks dc or marvel will die like every year...isnt it sjw or cancel culture to cheer when people lose their ability of a livelihood? Yeah the sjws are retarded but you can't cry about how you lost your job due to the "essjaydubbas" when you're cheering when a sjw gets cancer or loses their income.


I guess dean and mecha resumed their beef.
 
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In unexpected CG News....
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William Fucking Shatner slapping down Brian Visaggio? I'm there!

Shatner hates the troons forcing the prefix "cis-" on normal people, & Brian will not allow any opposition. (FYI Billy Tipton was a lesbian jazz musician who posed as a man during her career.)
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Brian employed his usual condescension in trying to reeducate an 89-year-old multimillionaire, then immediately privated his Twitter again. (I'm not sure the exact order of Brian's tweets, because I had to screenshot someone else's screenshots.)

EVS gets a pretty good dad joke out of it:
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And Donal took a break from ripping off @NasserRabadi13 long enough to chime in as well:
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Brian traumatized by one of his TV heroes? Priceless. It's JK Rowling all over again.....
Did he not "get" Star Trek growing up? Because I always thought the lesson was, "Be the boss & you'll get the best babes."
 
So I'm curious why cg/fandom meance thinks dc or marvel will die like every year...isnt it sjw or cancel culture to cheer when people lose their ability of a livelihood? Yeah the sjws are retarded but you can't cry about how you lost your job due to the "essjaydubbas" when you're cheering when a sjw gets cancer or loses their income.

No, it's SJW to mobilize to CAUSE someone to lose their livelihood. Watching SJWs suffer for their own actions is just good fun.
 
No, it's SJW to mobilize to CAUSE someone to lose their livelihood. Watching SJWs suffer for their own actions is just good fun.

But making fun of someone losing their jobs is pretty scummy. And you done the same mobilization with war campaign so you're no better if not worse than the sjws since you're former group doxxed and or harassed people. As much of spregs they are I'm not going to cheer them losing their jobs because there are non sjws in the industry who don't talk about politics can't provide for their family during these trying times

Another thing, Will is not comicsgate, why would he care about 40 year old man children who can't deliver a product for the life of them. Stop claiming dead/sucessful people to be part of a retarded group like comicsgay.
 
Another thing, Will is not comicsgate, why would he care about 40 year old man children who can't deliver a product for the life of them. Stop claiming dead/sucessful people to be part of a retarded group like comicsgay.
Yeah, agree. Don't ascribe America's Grampa to a side in a culture war he probably knows nothing about just because he had a spat with someone you don't like. This is like insisting the bee in Minecraft is trans.
 
In the meantime, Marvel was working on launching their "new universe for casuals" Ultimate line and Quesada pitched and got Bendis the Ultimate Spidey job. It did come with controversies (Bendis demanded Mark Bagley draw the book and had Quesada, by now Editor In Chief, threaten to blackball Bagley if he didn't take the gig). But between the dire nature of the Spidey books under Byrne, Mackie, and JMS's own controversial first year on the book, a huge hit with jaded Spider-Man fans and it had one thing that made it must buy: it was the only book where Mary Jane was allowed to appear as Quesada and JMS embargoed the character and Quesada was plotting to get Kevin Smth to write the story where MJ divorces Peter after he realized JMS had no intention on finalizing the end of the marriage.
There's a few key things I think that help for understanding the success of Ultimate Spider-Man, and they're sort of "you had to be there" situations.

1. At that point Spider-Man had sucked for as long as anyone could remember. Just about a full decade. The book hit INCREDIBLE lows in the '90s. Everyone rightly shits all over the Clone Saga, but that really wasn't markedly worse than most of the rest of what went on in the Spider books after Todd McFarlane took over/abandoned the franchise. Something even halfway decent was a gigantic improvement.

2. Also at that point, Bendis's snarky ping-pong dialogue shtick was still unfamiliar to people reading mainstream superhero comics. Nowadays it's played to death and beyond by dozens of shitty imitators and Bendis himself, and you get nightmares like Event Leviathan where there's such a blizzard of dialogue balloons that you can tell the editors and letterers have given up even trying to make it make sense. But at the time it was something fresh and different.

3. For the first two-three years at least, the back-to-basics Ultimate approach covered for the fact that Bendis can't long-term plot for shit. All he had to do was put his own spin on the Ditko/Romita-era evolution of the character. You can very clearly watch Ultimate Spider-Man start careening downhill once Bendis starts running out of old plots to steal, and/or gets ambitious enough to think he doesn't need the crutches anymore.
 
So I'm curious why cg/fandom meance thinks dc or marvel will die like every year...isnt it sjw or cancel culture to cheer when people lose their ability of a livelihood? Yeah the sjws are retarded but you can't cry about how you lost your job due to the "essjaydubbas" when you're cheering when a sjw gets cancer or loses their income.


I guess dean and mecha resumed their beef.
Shittywebcomics thought for a long while that Zombienomicon is undercover glowie anti - CG trying to infiltrate them and scam them, these public discord messages between Zombie and Meca (and the swc brothers allways were wary of Mc cheese to a certain extent, didn't like going on stream with him and saw early red flags) shows that this "conspiracy" has just suddenly got more meat on the leg to stand on and is a few step closer to fullfilling itself. Just never trust anyone stating they are CG, former CG, WC or Former WC, they have so much hate in their system for anyone calling them out they actually plot on months to try and destroy their real opposition.

All this shit is mirroring the real personality disorder, true hate and reach of EVS if you take enough step back and see where all former cg / former wc rebranded as anti-cger came from, it's easy to say but all of this reeks of unimaginable levels of internalized boiling rage while making a smooth face and smooth talk in public.
 
But making fun of someone losing their jobs is pretty scummy.

you forgot who started that shit (and who kept quiet tho you mention it because you know it's a flaw)
you forget why cg became more, much more than two spergs doing shitty videos
when they go low you hit back and show them who's boss
that other cheek stuff is for losers
they would never
you would never
 
you forgot who started that shit (and who kept quiet tho you mention it because you know it's a flaw)
you forget why cg became more, much more than two spergs doing shitty videos
when they go low you hit back and show them who's boss
that other cheek stuff is for losers
they would never
you would never

I just think its scummy. Although they asked for it but gloating about it doesn't really attract new mainstream artist to join cg because cg was happy they end up unemployed in the first place. And most of the "essjaydubbas" can easily join igg or kickstarter to publish their books and just outperform a majority of the jabroni grifters to upper midcard cgers and publish their books on time. As someone who had been laid off or had family members/friends who got laid off I don't wish people to lose their income, unless they actually deserve it. And cg is the reason why most of the sjws got their careers making videos on them.
 
Recently in Comicsgate,

Frog entered a debate with an SJW who's credentials were that worked in a comic shop for a couple of years. Originally the debate was scheduled to be be a two versus two but "Aidan" - the one who apparently did all the research beforehand - backed out at the last second. In the interest of fairness the moderator offered to not let Frog on to keep the debate even, but Croz, a person with zero familiarity with comics or Comicsgate, evidently figured that wasn't necessary and he'd just go ahead and stomp both of these dumb incels in one go.

  • Adam Friended: Youtube sophist wanting to cash in on Comicsgate
  • Frog: Undisputed leader of Comicsgate, an online comic-themed hate and shitpost movement.
  • Rei Murasame: An ambiguously accented globalist socialist and feminist "working in the defense sector" glownegro. The moderator.
  • Cody "Croz" Crozman: A fucking leaf in the Magic: The Gathering fandom who worked in a comic shop for 2 1/2 years.
  • Aidan (not present): Some guy who also worked in a comic store that talked to Cody once
Next are the introductions. Adam Friended says his motives are he hates the SJWs. Frog specifically requests for special time allotted to dab on his former colleagues being forced into unemployment. Croz says he pwned the Quartering one time on twitter and now he's looking to add some fresh skulls on his pike.

Following this are opening arguments. Like any good sophist, Friended starts by immediately moving to define terms, specifically what constitutes "ruining comics". But this is a prudent move since "comics" from a retailer perspective have grown 36% in 2019 alone, but all that growth is attributable to childrens' and YA comics. This is articulated by Frog after Friended simplistically on "indie" and "mainstream" definitions, along with his stance that the collapse of non-children's/YA genre comics is attributable to the boilerplate CG rallying points of overt political content and customer antagonism. Croz argues that every example can be chalked up to confirmation bias from Comicsgaters but within the first response Frog's command of Comicsgate-related talking points and overall rhetorical skill starts running roughshod over the debate.

This goes on for some time as Friended and Frog list off the long list of grievances Comicsgate has had with the mainstream industry with practiced tongue while Croz takes the stance that diversity and inclusion are smart corporate decisions to gain new demographics of readers and that diverse creators are needed for authentic product. Frog runs with this saying Tony Isabella for creating a minstrel show with "Black Lightning". Every argument Croz makes is hijacked by Frog in this manner to be used to shit on a creator Frog dislikes, from Dan Slott to Gail Simone.

Things start getting interesting at around an hour in when moderately infamous CGer "reinoe" starts superchatting; reinoe superchats are not to be underestimated - once he donated Mitch Breitweiser into bashing his skull into a keyboard on livestream. Frog starts looking into space away from his camera as if to pretend he doesn't know who reinoe is. Croz gets increasingly testy. Reinoe superchats that he is a black trans lesbian and that they will not be invalidated by the racist Croz. Finally, the debate closes on whether the movie or comic ending of Watchmen was better. So concludes another thrilling CG debate.

In other news, Liam Gray and his artist Odysseus Theodoratos have released 110 pages of free content in two 55-page works, the short story Xenotype: Pursuit and gag comic/shonen contest submission X-Roads: Strive. Although credit given where it is due this is more pages released than most Comicsgaters have put out in their entire careers, the question remains of whether the content is good. After reading both works, I recognized many psychological themes and indeed philosophical stance expressed by the author in the work so I was thoroughly entertained and intrigued by the insight into the author's inimitable mind, but a full exploration of my mediations on these works are a greater project best left for another time.


The lure of reviewing creative output by Liam was more than enough common ground to get Preston Poulter and "Mecha McCheese" to put their differences aside regarding Frog's reveal of their mutual friend, humble space merchant Zombienomicon. The internecine conflicts and intricacies of "Anti-CG" politics are difficult to decipher but from what this humble kiwi was able to gather, Mecha was extremely defensive after belatedly denouncing Zombienomicon.

Preston expresses his confusion at a narrative, scenario and protagonist that resolves all the obstacles and antagonist in their heroes' journey by a continual escalation of brutal violence; McCheese considers the story an extended metaphor of the author crafting an extenuating circumstance in which it is excuable to beat a woman. Keeping with the spirit of #Comicsgate, Liam responded in the comments section by threatening legal action and channel strikes against these negative reviews that are damaging his career as a comic creator.

Of course, within 24 hours of this shaky truce being made, DA Talks released an expose of Mecha McCheese's discord logs of him collaborating with Zombienomicon to oust Preston from his administrator role with the Comicsgate™ wiki, shown here in high anti-CG court.

I guess dean and mecha resumed their beef.
 
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In other news, Liam Gray and his artist Odysseus Theodoratos have released 110 pages of free content in two 55-page works, the short story Xenotype: Pursuit and gag comic/shonen contest submission X-Roads: Strive. Although credit given where it is due this is more pages released than most Comicsgaters have put out in their entire careers, the question remains of whether the content is good. After reading both works, I recognized many psychological themes and indeed philosophical stance expressed by the author in the work so I was thoroughly entertained and intrigued by the insight into the author's inimitable mind, but a full exploration of my mediations on these works are a greater project best left for another time.
You gonna talk about legitimately free comics but not hook us up? Bruh.

Xenotype: Pursuit and X-Roads: Strive. (It looks like a pirate site but it was directly linked from the Xenotype Kickfundme so I guess it's legit.)

Just from a first glance, I'm noticing that they're apparently meant to be read right to left, despite being a Western comic. That's a level of pretentious bullshit I find intolerable, so I'm out. But maybe it works for you.
 
you forget why cg became more, much more than two spergs doing shitty videos
Yeah, now it's around 20 spergs. Such heights.
This infantilistic child worldview is allover Liam's book btw. When being hurt once gives you a lifelong victim card that allows you and your kids and grand kids to hurt and escalate forever (BLM anyone?). And it's not a christian thing this is an adult thing. This is something manga for boys teaches too and Japan isn't christian. Being able to evaluate the damage was always the sign of maturity across the world while holding life long grudges is kiddo shit.
 

This morning, Mecha Iscariot took to the tubes to address the expose of his pact with Zombienomicon, that he sold Preston out to Caesar for thirty piece of "silver" Ribbitcoin. That in a moment of weakness he allowed the Deceiver to ply his ear with honeyed words to the effect that Preston must be removing from the Comicsgate™ Wiki. That he was led from the true path of comic book criticism and astray from the pure goal of redeeming the fallen medium that is comics.

With a somewhat more circumspect and humbled tone than before, he then turns to the main content of his show - reading Liam's youtube comments in response to his and Preston's review because quote, "Liam felt very strongly about it". All things said and alleged about Liam in the past, Mecha credits him with being a true believer in his product and his goal and that he can appreciate the sincerity of an effort even if the end result falls short in his estimation.

Preston Poulter then arrives on stream to commiserate over the hostility of Liam's response to their review, but that topic is quickly dispensed with to offer Mecha forgiveness for his transgressions against him, saying with a touch of sorrow in his voice that he wears the crown of thorns of anti-CG of his own accord, that he suffers the slings and arrows of his erstwhile friends willingly for the redemption of all. Poulter adds that in the end, when recriminations and drama videos and "cancellings" are being cast about one should ask if you yourself are truly free of sin? And let he who hath spread the first cheek catch the first bone. Amen.


Liam Gray meanwhile offered to share his platform to his fellow CG Australian Oz after his channel was struck down for unclear reasons. Oz fell asleep or just didn't feel like showing up and ghosted Liam but alcoholic regulars Oz's show - the wastrel Ryzie Lee and oaf Berserk Guts, quickly stepped up to co-host an efap of a video covering a similar SJW gatekeeper/whisper network entrenched in the western animation industry (specifically, Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Star vs the Forces of Evil). Berserk neither knows nor cares about kids cartoons but emphasizes his desire to beat up the animators when he sees their profile pictures n the video. He is also relieved to see that Ryzie is still alive after the last Oz show had him clutching his guts in agony while blackout drunk as the chat debated whether to get Ryzie to a hospital or not (chat ultimately voted to watch Ryzie die of organ failure on livestream).

Overall the emotional impact of the subject is lost on Liam's panelists; Berserk laughs at cartoons that resemble penises in his eye and Ryzie expresses confusion at the gender of every person put on the screen. Eventually Liam realizes he's losing the very limited attention span of his guests and decides to cut the chase - the sexual degeneracy (including underage content that animators like Rebecca Sugar have made in their past) and proven desire to put this in childrens' cartoons to use mass media to groom the youth. Ryzie is, against all expectations, sober and actually able to articulate his outrage at this. Berserk Guts adds that isn't all this the purpose of DC Comics' wish to switch to YA novels - to make kids gay and shit? Liam says that this is why he fights and, now that Ryzie and Berserk Guts have received the redpill, will they join him in his fight with the creative arts establishment?

The orange fire rises within Liam as he starts to speechify instead of collect oaths from Berserk Guts and Ryzie and the conversation drifts to more congenial topics like the Epstein murder coverup, a topic that all the participants and most of the chat freely participate in. Tactfully, Liam inquires into Ryzie's health but Ryzie says he'd rather die young than not collect welfare and drink himself sick. Finally, Liam closes that while people call him paranoid, he'd argue that it's an act of childish naivete to ignore the concentrated and coordinated conspiracy to indoctrinate children into deviant sexual lifestyles using the mass media, and that the viewer can do their part by voting for Xenotype: Pursuit in the ongoing contest (it's actually a contender for most popular). And with that, another Liamstream is complete.
 
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I have never been confused about something so useless and small.

"Comics are the soul of merica and it's masculinity" - Mecha. JESUS fucking Christ!:cryblood:
 
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Whoaaaaa watch out! We've got an internet badass here!
Nazis beware! Comics pro Pete Woods might try to punch you out on the subway if he suspects you're a white supremacist.

I don't think any of these limp wristed comics pro wusses have ever experienced violence in their lives, nor do they realize there are people out there that will end their career just for looking at them the wrong way.

Its like Mags "get ready for a baseball bat to the teeth" novaggio. They don't realize there are actually people out there who would take a bat to a comics pros head just for the thrill of it.

I cant wait for a comics pro to actually get BTFO and left in a ditch they will all shit their pants in unison and call for an end to the deplorable violence.

Its funny as long as it ain't happening to them.

I have never been confused about something so useless and small.

"Comics are the soul of merica and it's masculinity" - Mecha. JESUS fucking Christ!:cryblood:
Comics are the opposite of masculine. Theres not a single actual badass in comics, just a bunch of cocksucking beta-males, nu-males and she-males.
 
Yeah, now it's around 20 spergs. Such heights.
This infantilistic child worldview is allover Liam's book btw. When being hurt once gives you a lifelong victim card that allows you and your kids and grand kids to hurt and escalate forever (BLM anyone?). And it's not a christian thing this is an adult thing. This is something manga for boys teaches too and Japan isn't christian. Being able to evaluate the damage was always the sign of maturity across the world while holding life long grudges is kiddo shit.

Exactly, it's barbarism. When you fight fire with fire in a comic book store, all you have to rule over is ashes.

Comicsgaters are always kissing manga's ass because "they don't give a shit about politics" but there are many political manga, they just aren't printed in magazines for people who just want a fun story. There's manga for adults that want politics in their story, stupid poop joke manga for little kids, the action stuff we're familiar with, and all sorts of porno. The market thrives because the different demographics don't fight and try to sabotage each other over petty grudges or woke/unwoke agendas.
 
Ya Boi did some shoeleather reporting on Scott Snyder's new Kickstarter campaign.


It turns out Camilla Zhang is working as a "campaign manager" for the campaign and fielding questions about it on Twitter. Does that name ring a bell? She's the former czar of the comics category of Kickstarter who got fired earlier this year in the post-unionization bloodbath. As is apparently proper when representing a commercial enterprise to a wide potential audience, she currently has "FTP BLM" in her Twitter name (and I don't think she's referring to the File Transfer Protocol or the Bureau of Land Management). Zack suspects that Snyder brought Zhang specifically on board to make sure things go smoothly on the Kickstarter side as well as woke points for helping out the womyn of color who needed a job, but in the pinned comment underneath the video, Just Some Guy puts a sinister twist on it:

I'm willing to bet Snyder didn't approach her, but either she approached him or was "recommended" to him. These people connive so often, I'd be shocked if the plan wasn't to ruin his campaign.

Two years ago the idea that some literally who would contact someone of Snyder's caliber and go "nice Kickstarter campaign you're starting there. T'd be a shame if you got cancelled in the middle of it" would be pretty ridiculous, but we're starting to see more and more far left activists doing that sort of thing in the wide open, so who knows.
 
How exactly you'd ruin Snyder's campaign? As far as I know he is "clean" and there is nothing "problematic" in his campaign either.
 
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