#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[The Bovinian Derivative]

She says that the Fandom Menace 'doesn't make anything.' Not necessarily true

Agreed, but she meant something physical. WorldClassBullshiters made a comic, say what you want about but at least an effort was made. IMO there's nothing wrong with being a journalistic outlet with no sociopolitical leanings. Midnight's Edge, G+G (I guess I never watched them), and Bounding Into Comics do this, but the rest of them are completely replaceable (what does Az do honestly? Not much), and I say this as someone who has no personal problem with any them (except Jeremy and his disastrous handling of the Snyder situation).

It is telling though that the most viewed/engaged thing in the TFM sphere is Friday Night Tights which consists of 70% reading hugbox superchats. Maybe this says more about the average viewer and not the content creator. One thing I admired about Ya Boi Zack is when he got fucked out his indie publishing deal instrea of firing up a cope stream to cry and get neetbux he looked for an alternative. Not enough people do that in the TFM.

Bitch made faggot Gary has bragged about his own insider cred, but fuck me if I'm going to go search through those snore streams to find everything.

I don't think he ever named names. He almost certainly knows comics people (he's even drawn in as extra in one of The Boys comics because he's friends with the cartoonist) but besides that his and Doomcock's connections, AFAIK, are just insiders who leak information to them, mostly because those insiders are also frustrated and can't do jack shit besides venting to youtubers anonymously, not people who they actually know face-to-face.

 

[Unknown_man1991]

When the fuck did the faggot menece and sperggate get so bad?

 

[Captain Manning]

Can't wait for @Null to post the email threatening a LOLsuit from ol' Brian.

"Your stupid bullshit is reproduced here for the purposes of ridicule. Send service to..."

Ryzie is cancelled because he platformed Frog, I think. So now Liam is throwing Ryzie under the bus.

Hard to believe Liam has a bus to call upon.

@Captain Manning has added some great clips on here too, maybe you can get some timestamps from him. You might have to say sorry for calling him a nincompoop the other day, though! I'm pleased to see you improving your vocabulary, Nasser, but there's no need for language like that.

It's okay. I'll get him back next time I'm on a stream with him. I'll say something mildly gross, and then he'll squeek "THAT'S SICK!"

Works every time.

 

[Miniluv]

It is telling though that the most viewed/engaged thing in the TFM sphere is Friday Night Tights which consists of 70% reading hugbox superchats. Maybe this says more about the average viewer and not the content creator. One thing I admired about Ya Boi Zack is when he got fucked out his indie publishing deal instrea of firing up a cope stream to cry and get neetbux he looked for an alternative. Not enough people do that in the TFM.

What are the TFM people going to do, make their own shows and movies? You'd think they'd get together and at least try to do something like that but they won't. As Ethan pointed out on the Nasser stream, there's a distinct lack of talent on their end whereas CG had former pros and aspiring amateurs ready and willing to produce their own content.

All that's really come out of TFM as far as content goes is Stealing Solo which is just Jeff Hicks bitching about Star Wars in comic form and even that didn't come out right since Hicks is a sped that knew nothing at all about fulfilling a crowdfund. If the best they can muster is a poorly drawn, poorly written, late, gay, and damaged comic about Z list YouTube spergs trying to remake Star Wars, fuck them. They deserve to be ridiculed as they wither away.

CG can produce comics as an alternative to the mainstream industry, TFM can't produce Star Wars.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

When the fuck did the faggot menece and sperggate get so bad?

Zack Snyder and covid. No movies to get mad at the SJWs about so they ate their own.

 

[Unknown_man1991]

Zack Snyder and covid. No movies to get mad at the SJWs about so they ate their own.

Fuck forgot about that sadly the best happen to the faggot menece was zack snyder not associating with geeks and gamers and somehow they lost their shit

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

What are the TFM people going to do, make their own shows and movies?

I know it's next to impossible to produce a feature length film for an individual or small group that's above the level of the Nostalgia Critic Movies. Even RedLetterMedia, who went to filmschool, know their technical shit, make $10K+ on patreon could only make SpaceCop and as someone who sat though it I can tell you it was a solid 3/10 at best.

But they, back to TFM, could do shorts (like SWTheory), write books (like the Critical Drinker or Razorfist), I know Gary likes radio dramas they could make shit like that.

 

[jspit2.0]

Agreed, but she meant something physical. WorldClassBullshiters made a comic, say what you want about but at least an effort was made. IMO there's nothing wrong with being a journalistic outlet with no sociopolitical leanings. Midnight's Edge, G+G (I guess I never watched them), and Bounding Into Comics do this, but the rest of them are completely replaceable (what does Az do honestly? Not much), and I say this as someone who has no personal problem with any them (except Jeremy and his disastrous handling of the Snyder situation).

To what end?

I've seen this now for years. CG loses ground and shifts the goal posts.

The lawsuit, nah. We're going to continue crowd funds. Direct Market? It's going away any day now. (still there). CG is a success for the people who make those books and sell them to 2,000 people at high price.

Created 'content' doesn't have to be physical. But the one positive about CG is that it's not tied to something SJWs can infiltrate. The negative is that because they have little to no presence, they are truly irrelevant.

It is telling though that the most viewed/engaged thing in the TFM sphere is Friday Night Tights which consists of 70% reading hugbox superchats. Maybe this says more about the average viewer and not the content creator. One thing I admired about Ya Boi Zack is when he got fucked out his indie publishing deal instrea of firing up a cope stream to cry and get neetbux he looked for an alternative. Not enough people do that in the TFM.

Admire may be too far. Still it does. The Fandom Rejects are as much about a cult of personalities at this point as anything else.

What are the TFM people going to do, make their own shows and movies? You'd think they'd get together and at least try to do something like that but they won't. As Ethan pointed out on the Nasser stream, there's a distinct lack of talent on their end whereas CG had former pros and aspiring amateurs ready and willing to produce their own content.

Nor should they. Film making is insanely expensive and time consuming.

CG has a bunch of people with poorly marketable drawing skills who desperately need to make it to retirement.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

A lot of people had an emotional connection to Star Wars and wanted it to be 'better' than the offerings from Disney. Everything declines anyway, I figure Disney and the woke agenda just helped it along. Everything is rapped up in Return of the Jedi/the recons I see here and there from comics about Rey/First Order/whatever is just vapid mystery boxes/shining a turd. The YouTube grifting game is content content content and what is there to talk about Star Wars right now anyway?

 

[MirrorNoir]

Her fourth tweet is proof that she may be a comicbook writer, but she ain't no fucking rocket science.

90% of YBZ videos was about Mags comics being awful and her being exploited by comicbook publishers to tokenize her and use her as a shield against criticism.
Which is a same, becauseI may have interacted with her on twitter once or twice and (since I am not CG) she seemed to be a genuinely nice yet emotionally unstable person.

And dare I say that tokenization is a form of bigotry?

Also, Heather Antos was not "just an icon" of stronk womxn that bigotted men hated. She was an insufferable cunt that would get railed even if she was a dude.

Have no sympathy for Mags because she's Scott Snyder's pet tranny and only went trans to get work in the industry in a depraved Tootsie like scam that was played in a manner where Mags went full troon for maximum tranny privilege and not caring one iota of the collatoral damage she caused due to the fact that she selfishly only cares about herself with regards to the sunk fallacy cost of cutting off one's dick and "becoming a woman for realz" to write comics for a living.

I'd compare her to Cartman in either the Cissy or the tourettes episode except both ended with Cartman getting his comeuppence whereas Mags still hasn't gotten her own comeuppence yet

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Honestly just nix the high council before you get losers like dorkwood dull.

 

[Captain Manning]

I know it's next to impossible to produce a feature length film for an individual or small group that's above the level of the Nostalgia Critic Movies. Even RedLetterMedia, who went to filmschool, know their technical shit, make $10K+ on patreon could only make SpaceCop and as someone who sat though it I can tell you it was a solid 3/10 at best.

I don't know why these nincompoops' (steeling your shit, @NasserRabadi13!) feel the need to do "feature length."

At 37 minutes, Baelin's Route is actually pretty damn impressive.

$700,000 NZD = $500,000 USD / 37 minutes = $14,500 USD per minute = a pretty cute little short. One of the better ones I've seen.

Of course a 107 minute movie shot on a budget of $80,000 USD (Space Cop) is likely gonna be dogshit. Unless it's all dialogue or something. And TGWTG? Well, there's been plenty of ink spilled over them already and elsewhere...

 

[Mister Dongs]

What are the TFM people going to do, make their own shows and movies? You'd think they'd get together and at least try to do something like that but they won't. As Ethan pointed out on the Nasser stream, there's a distinct lack of talent on their end whereas CG had former pros and aspiring amateurs ready and willing to produce their own content.

Science fiction can exist in cheaper forms than big hollywood blockbusters. Star Wars itself - books, comics, cartoons, etc.; the Findom Menace grifters cried endlessly about Disney declaring the Extended Universe material "non-canon" so they had to have known that it exists. Ultimately, the reason why their leaders didn't propose a course of action, or present an alternative beyond making clickbait reacting to Disney's decisions is because they didn't want to.

 

[Captain Manning]

If the best they can muster is a poorly drawn, poor;y written, late, gay, and damaged comic about Z list YouTube spergs trying to remake Star Wars, fuck them.

I just remembered something.

THIS... was shot back in 1997. 1997! That's pre-Youtube. When video hardware and software was nowhere near as good, and most people were on dialup.

REALLY makes you think that it's not just Star Wars that's going backwards, but also the fandom as well. Where is the creativity now?

 

[jspit2.0]

I just remembered something.

THIS... was shot back in 1997. 1997! That's pre-Youtube. When video hardware and software was nowhere near as good, and most people were on dialup.

REALLY makes you think that it's not just Star Wars that's going backwards, but also the fandom as well. Where is the creativity now?

you're wrong on this one cap

Lucas gave fans permission to make those films. Disney on the other hand, has shut them down.

 

[Miniluv]

Science fiction can exist in cheaper forms than big hollywood blockbusters. Star Wars itself - books, comics, cartoons, etc.; the Findom Menace grifters cried endlessly about Disney declaring the Extended Universe material "non-canon" so they had to have known that it exists. Ultimately, the reason why their leaders didn't propose a course of action, or present an alternative beyond making clickbait reacting to Disney's decisions is because they didn't want to.

Maybe so, but I think it has a lot to do with a distinct dearth of talent in their ranks. Anna and Jeff Hicks are the only ones that have produced anything that can be considered actual "content" and that makes those two the cream of the TFM crop. You think Gary, Az, or fucking Jeremy Griggs have anything creative rattling around in their heads?

Nor should they. Film making is insanely expensive and time consuming.

CG has a bunch of people with poorly marketable drawing skills who desperately need to make it to retirement.

Even if that statement is true on its face, CG's "poorly marketable drawing skills" are light years beyond anything found in TFM circles.
If we're talking any sort of measurable talent, TFM makes CG look like the fucking '27 Yankees.
Ethan Van Sciver alone is more talented than everyone in TFM combined.

 

[jspit2.0]

Maybe so, but I think it has a lot to do with a distinct dearth of talent in their ranks. Anna and Jeff Hicks are the only ones that have produced anything that can be considered actual "content" and that makes those two the cream of the TFM crop. You think Gary, Az, or fucking Jeremy Griggs have anything creative rattling around in their heads?


Even if that statement is true on its face, CG's "poorly marketable drawing skills" are light years beyond anything found in TFM circles.
If we're talking any sort of measurable talent, TFM makes CG look like the fucking '27 Yankees.
Ethan Van Sciver alone is more talented than everyone in TFM combined.

Who even is in the Fandom Menace at this point.

Kindof a low bar.

 

[Pilule Noire]

Geeks and Gamers, Midnight's Edge, MechaRandom and even the Fandom Menace Historian sped all disavowed the Findom Menace in the past two days. Most interesting was Mecha and Midnight's Edge's disclosure that they chose to secretly retire any sort of affiliation to the group over a year ago but didn't tell their followers in on this decision, presumably so they could continue to grift from their betrayed paypig viewership.

What is the actual cause, or is nobody saying? Is it that Netflix documentary, or something going on behind the scenes? I'm so confused, tbh I didn't even see Midnight's Edge as TFM, I saw them more as a general movie nerd type channel. They said TLJ was crap, but lots of people said that without being part of TFM. These MechaMayhem spergouts are fun/bewildering in a frightening way, because they seem to be shrieking and crying hysterically about absolutely nothing.

Will anyone on the cover still be "Fandom Menace" by the time backers get their Jeff Hicks comic crammed into a mailbox like so much garbage?

I don't know if Frog should be crossed out, not in the same way at least. He hasn't disavowed, he's declared TFM dead because they're all cucks who didn't have the brains/stones to stand up to Hack Snyder, and are now disavowing it furiously for reasons. On the other hand, Frog also said he hasn't been involved in it for a while, like them. But his reasons were different, I still don't understand what exactly the cuck side is disavowing about. Are they all just obliquely alluding to 'bad stuff' without saying anything?

Putting my detective hat on for a moment, logically, the last person left on the cover must be held responsible for all this.

That last person standing must surely be the underlying cause of the decline and fall of the TFM empire.

Place your bets!
I know who my money's going on...

Spoiler

 

[Miniluv]

Who even is in the Fandom Menace at this point.

Kindof a low bar.

Of that there is no doubt.

I'm just saying maybe the reason TFM doesn't produce anything and CG does has more to do with them being generally talentless than it does film making being difficult and expensive.

 

[YesNoMaybe]

Making fun of Zack Snyder's daughter's suicide gives Hollywood/Big Tech/SJWs cause to say they were right about fans being toxic/hate group/etc. Its a tactical mistake and being tied to her could hurt their grift. They are like roaches scattering in the light. Gotta protect their grift. Basically, the cleanest way to deal with her comments to play the "I'm not associated with..." game, which is kind of the same thing Zach Snyder did to Cucks and Cuckers (Muh Brand™).