#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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1) When people press him online about the books that they paid for that he isn't delivering, they are making it "not fun" for Richard. Life is so hard....
In all fairness to Simple Zach, at 7:00 of the video he also talked about how he was packaging the Expendables T-shirts for mailing. So, things ARE happening. And this is what he promised he would do in the last update posted.

So even though he was whining like a little bitch the whole time, he is at least making an effort to fulfill on the schedule he set for himself in the last update.
 
Can this be real?


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The last time I can remember looking at this thing, they were bragging about how edgy they were by having two girls kiss. I could have missed something, but I don't remember any explicit sex scenes. It seems like clickbait to get attention for the series moving to HBOMax.

The last big news from the series was back in March when the showrunner was talking about the need to hire more LGBTQ+ writers because the series has become so gay. At the end of the last season, "Heather Hogan at Autostraddel called the second season "one of the most gratifying gay seasons of television" she has ever watched."

I'm sure this is just clickbait aimed at dumb nerds who will think they are going to get porn scenes of superhero characters if they spring for an HBOMAX subscription. But that all the move to HBOMAX will involve is making the series even more gay than it was before.
 
I disagree. I believe part of the reason why Meyer dropped the suit is simply that the funds dried up.
The last donations to Meyer's GFM happened 5 months before he settled.
Had there been a steady stream of big donations, perhaps he would not have settled.
My theory on why he dropped the lawsuit is that he had reached a point where he saw little chance of getting enough money to make continuing worth it. His GFM brought in much more than Waids' and Waid would be dipping into his own funds well before YBZ did. The rumors were that Waid was trying to get Ethan to convince YBZ to drop it because he realized how badly he had screwed himself, and his only hope was to drag things along and make it along process as "painful" as possible. The sad thing is that this is pretty much what happened.

The GFM also expired and could no longer receive donations a number of months before the settlement. The creation of it was what Dan Shahin called the worst thing EVS had done, during their first livestream. By the time of that livestream, the GFM had expired just shortly before, and Ethan said he'd pull it since it was no longer usable..
 
The thing about Richard's military metaphor is that while objectives change during battles and wars, there are some basic things that don't change. We don't go erase all the videos of 9/11 from youtube for example, because we have decided to stop fighting the war. And we generally don't do pity streams for bin laden. We don't feel sorry for Bin Laden over the pressure he was under from other people in his group and other terrorists.

There are rational decisions made all the time about scaling back or ending wars or re-defining military objectives. But when that happens, you change how you fight rather than rushing out to the battlefield to give the enemy sympathy and a big hug. You may choose to leave the battlefield, but you do it walking. You don't do it on your knees. You don't beg your enemy for forgiveness, you don't rewrite your own history to please your enemy. And you continue to fight in other ways.

Richard is an adult and is free to make his own choices. But other people are free in light of those choices to offer up the opinion that he is a bitch. That bending over for Nick Spencer and censoring your own videos to attempt to please people like Mark Waid, Heather Antos and Mags isn't fighting a war in a different way. Its making a fool of yourself and a fool of the people who believed in you enough to give you money at one time.

In other words, if Richard wants to stop fighting the culture war - more power to him. But if Richard wants to re-write his own personal history by removing his videos critical of SJWs and tell us that guys like Nick Spencer are really victims we should have sympathy for & support........that isn't going to pass without comment.

We get it Richard. You have the money now. Like Mitch Breitwiser, the people who supported you served their purpose but now they don't and they are not necessary anymore. We are a hill that has no military value to you anymore because you have our money. That culture wars are really just something that can be cynically used to build up an audience and get cash. You have the money and can do what you please. But don't expect some of us to like you for doing it.
I know this is a bit late, but I would just like to comment that the above interpretation, where Meyer's word salad is an erroneous application of objective drift, is actually the most charitable interpretation of his words possible.

If rallying people to "fight back against cancel culture" (using his words), instead of being the objective, was simply the temporary, ephemeral "hill" of yesterday, to be ditched and moved on to today's hill of defending the very same practitioners of cancel culture in the hopes they'll give him a shred of legitimacy, both in service to the grand objective of enriching himself, then his actions make total sense. In fact it is the only way of making Meyer's words logically consistent. To say Simple Zack "gave up" means he tried in the first place, far worse is the implication he was simply appealing to beliefs he didn't actually share until the check cleared the entire time.

In the video Zack never defines what the "hills" are and what the grand objective was, preferring to obfuscate through use of poorly applied euphemisms rather than giving a clear, honest description of his perspective on things. I can't say I blame him.

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Meyer closes the video by saying that the "culture war" is a recipe for eternal conflict, that there is "no peace, no negotiation", which tips his hand as to what he actually wants - to negotiate a peace with the gatekeepers he feels are excluding him. The flaw in this thinking however is that you don't capitulate before negotiations. Just look at Liam if you want an example of how that goes.

I still 100% agree with that idea. It would never happen, but if Zack were offered a writing gig on a Marvel comic I'm betting Dollars to Donuts he would take it. Couldn't find the timestamp because of the Embed issue so word of warning to those who haven't listened to a well read stream He does this kind of NPR style with Musical Interludes of indie music. Might take a bit to find it.

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True. Specifically, what Meyer wants to do is follow the trail that Gail Simone blazed in 1999 with her Women In Refrigerators . The one where she started a grassroots online movement against the misogynistic writing of people like Ron Marz, was bought off with a lifelong journeyman writers' gig at the Big Two and really opened the door for the SJW infestation of comics for the past 25 years. The parallels are uncanny, Frog is the only person who personally knows both people involved, but I imagine he'd be tilted towards his current friend between the two.
 
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since when did Superhero cartoons start turning into porn?

They've always had a sexual element, with Dan Didio doing more than anyone at DC to push them to sexualize and exploit the characters. Identity crisis anyone?

Despite that, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman are properties. Major IP brands. Having the character engage in something like that could damage it. The Adam West Batman effected the brand for nearly thirty years. People have long memories with influence usually going Live Action>Cartoons>Comics.

I'd buy it. Harley Quinn is an abortion of a series.

The last time I can remember looking at this thing, they were bragging about how edgy they were by having two girls kiss. I could have missed something, but I don't remember any explicit sex scenes. It seems like clickbait to get attention for the series moving to HBOMax.

I actually suffered through it. I say suffered because I was pleasantly surprised by a relatively solid pilot. It was clear that it started out with influence from actual women. They had Ivy in a romantic relationship with Kite-man that was nice and a good foil for Harley who they portrayed in universe as a pathetic fuck up.

They got crap immediately because HxI wasn't a thing, Harley was flawed, the usual. They pivoted, but as you know, you start with the first season more or less done. HxI only really happened there. Harley became OP. They dialed up the already obnoxious woke comedy to eleven. The thing degenerated to muddled incoherence from what I understand. I dropped it once it became clear they gave in to the woke brigade.

The last big news from the series was back in March when the showrunner was talking about the need to hire more LGBTQ+ writers because the series has become so gay. At the end of the last season, "Heather Hogan at Autostraddel called the second season "one of the most gratifying gay seasons of television" she has ever watched."

Yeah, it went from Girls/Amy Schumer meets DC Comics to the L word via Brian Vissagio.


I'm sure this is just clickbait aimed at dumb nerds who will think they are going to get porn scenes of superhero characters if they spring for an HBOMAX subscription. But that all the move to HBOMAX will involve is making the series even more gay than it was before.

Sadly. I'm baffled how DC went from being Smallville and Brave and the Bold to its current CW slate/HBOMax.

On screen, the companies are reversed.

My theory on why he dropped the lawsuit is that he had reached a point where he saw little chance of getting enough money to make continuing worth it. His GFM brought in much more than Waids' and Waid would be dipping into his own funds well before YBZ did. The rumors were that Waid was trying to get Ethan to convince YBZ to drop it because he realized how badly he had screwed himself, and his only hope was to drag things along and make it along process as "painful" as possible. The sad thing is that this is pretty much what happened.

The GFM also expired and could no longer receive donations a number of months before the settlement. The creation of it was what Dan Shahin called the worst thing EVS had done, during their first livestream. By the time of that livestream, the GFM had expired just shortly before, and Ethan said he'd pull it since it was no longer usable..

They could have raised more money. Plus, I don't like how everyone makes it solely about money.

Any discussion has to take into account Richard's pervasive attitude of entitlement and his deep seated desire to be in the club.

I know this is a bit late, but I would just like to comment that the above interpretation, where Meyer's word salad is an erroneous application of objective drift, is actually the most charitable interpretation of his words possible.

If rallying people to "fight back against cancel culture" (using his words), instead of being the objective, was simply the temporary, ephemeral "hill" of yesterday, to be ditched and moved on to today's hill of defending the very same practitioners of cancel culture in the hopes they'll give him a shred of legitimacy, both in service to the grand objective of enriching himself, then his actions make total sense. In fact it is the only way of making Meyer's words logically consistent. To say Simple Zack "gave up" means he tried in the first place, far worse is the implication he was simply appealing to beliefs he didn't actually share until the check cleared the entire time.

In the video Zack never defines what the "hills" are and what the grand objective was, preferring to obfuscate through use of poorly applied euphemisms rather than giving a clear, honest description of his perspective on things. I can't say I blame him.

True. If life is all about you and never about anyone or anything else; then self pleasure is the only worthy goal and the path that provides the least pain and most pleasure the only sane choice.

If that is the man that Richard C Meyer is. His actions are perfectly consistent.
 
Richard played at being a marine when he felt like it.
Richard played at being a dad when he felt like it.
Richard played at being a comics publisher when he felt like it.
Now Richard feels like playing at being, what? A paranoid fitness guru?

The original Comicsgate personality Captain Cummings already has the paranoid fitness guru thing locked up. That became his new direction a couple months ago.



He recently started a fitness feud with someone, but I can't find the videos anymore.
 
True. Specifically, what Meyer wants to do is follow the trail that Gail Simone blazed in 1999 with her Women In Refrigerators . The one where she started a grassroots online movement against the misogynistic writing of people like Ron Marz, was bought off with a lifelong journeyman writers' gig at the Big Two and really opened the door for the SJW infestation of comics for the past 25 years. The parallels are uncanny, Frog is the only person who personally knows both people involved, but I imagine he'd be tilted towards his current friend between the two.
This is so spot on. Yes, he started like that. But unlike Gail "those haters turned a woman into a man" Simone YBZ kickstarted a real outrage on paying customers.
Also called the marvel editorial cucks and a certain member of it a cumdumster in a cringy private stream - the only dark roast that ever put me to sleep.

Also, Zack was sure that CG would blow by 2021 and I believe he is making videos under that impression.
 
My theory on why he dropped the lawsuit is that he had reached a point where he saw little chance of getting enough money to make continuing worth it. His GFM brought in much more than Waids' and Waid would be dipping into his own funds well before YBZ did. The rumors were that Waid was trying to get Ethan to convince YBZ to drop it because he realized how badly he had screwed himself, and his only hope was to drag things along and make it along process as "painful" as possible. The sad thing is that this is pretty much what happened.

The GFM also expired and could no longer receive donations a number of months before the settlement. The creation of it was what Dan Shahin called the worst thing EVS had done, during their first livestream. By the time of that livestream, the GFM had expired just shortly before, and Ethan said he'd pull it since it was no longer usable..

Dan Shahin's condemnation of my setting up that GoFundMe struck me as incredibly weird and unrelatable to me. It was obviously the right thing to do, even in hindsight, and completely morally justifiable.

Trying to put myself in Shahin's headspace, however, I think he must have meant that it was unforgiveable in terms of the unspoken pact that Comic Pros have, that brand of professional courtesy that mostly means not expressing a negative opinion of another's work publicly. From that perspective, and without empathizing with what prompted my break from that unspoken pact, it must have seemed like cannibalism to them. Erik Larsen, just before blocking me on Twitter, warned me not to turn on my fellow professionals. That was the final taboo. I knew what I was doing and I knew there was no going back.

Right is right and wrong is wrong.

Money issues may have played a part in Zack's decision. He never said so, not to me. In fact, when I asked him if he needed more money, he told me he didn't. But as the case closed, Zack refunded only a little more than $8000 to charity, so his war chest had been greatly reduced. And yes, the original GoFundMe had to close, as I think they can only collect for a maximum of two years.

But I could have, and was considering, opening a new one and starting again. I wasn't sure that I could generate the enthusiasm for dumping more money into fighting a greatly diminished Mark Waid to punish him for childish, cruel idiocy that wound up energizing ComicsGate, and putting a great big spotlight on Richard C. Meyer's JAWBREAKERS campaign. On the one hand, a message needed to be sent that Tortious Interference by SJWs would be costly for them. On the other hand, your average ComicsGater, two years later, would have seen a donation to another GoFundMe as unfair. "Zack is rich now. We made him rich, why can't he pay for it himself?"

It didn't seem like a great idea to try to raise more money for the case, but I would have done it. I just didn't understand where Zack was in his thinking, and how much this whole thing had exhausted him. Lawsuits are burdensome drains of life.

As for Waid trying to get me to convince YBZ of anything, I don't even speak to Mark Waid. I haven't since 2017 and the "FUCKING FIX THIS NOW" episode. Not a word.

I will say that a few industry professionals did try to reason with me over it. Were they Agents of Waid? Maybe. He has a lot of friends in comics. But it wasn't anything to report. Just, "Hey, you really think your friend Meyer is doing the right thing here in suing Waid?"

Yes.
 
The GFM also expired and could no longer receive donations a number of months before the settlement. The creation of it was what Dan Shahin called the worst thing EVS had done, during their first livestream. By the time of that livestream, the GFM had expired just shortly before, and Ethan said he'd pull it since it was no longer usable..
And yes, the original GoFundMe had to close, as I think they can only collect for a maximum of two years.
GoFundMe's do not expire or automatically end on their own. As per their FAQ, "most organizers leave their campaigns active indefinitely." Shutting one down is optional and must be done manually.

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GoFundMe's do not expire or automatically end on their own. As per their FAQ, "most organizers leave their campaigns active indefinitely." Shutting one down is optional and must be done manually.

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I don't think that means that you can continue to accept donations. It just means that the page is live, and people can write on it.

I remember being told that the campaign would no longer be able to accept donations because the time limit had run out, although I would be permitted to start a new one.
 
II remember being told that the campaign would no longer be able to accept donations because the time limit had run out, although I would be permitted to start a new one.
Someone told you wrong. GoFundMe's are forever. Here's a few from almost 10 years ago, still accepting donations. One of the kids with cancer still had cash coming in 5 years after they made it. Turning off the money spigot is up to the campaign creator. GFM doesn't care and they certainly aren't going to pay anyone a salary determining when or if any of these need to be closed.


edit: although these appear to be active, the donations are paused, probably by gofundme after a period of inactivity. The message indicates they could be reopened pending some action by the organizer.

edit 2: GoFundMe updated their system and old campaigns need to be transitioned to the new one to begin receiving money again.

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Someone told you wrong. GoFundMe's are forever. Here's a few from almost 10 years ago, still accepting donations. One of the kids with cancer still had cash coming in 5 years after they made it. Turning off the money spigot is up to the campaign creator. GFM doesn't care and they certainly aren't going to pay anyone a salary determining when or if any of these need to be closed.

edit: although these appear to be active, the donations are paused, probably by gofundme after a period of inactivity. The message indicates they could be reopened pending some action by the organizer.

It was GoFundMe that told me. It's a little fuzzy in my memory, but they told me I could relaunch or something, if I wanted to continue accepting donations. They gave me a date that it would close, or "PAUSE" I guess.

(edit) There it is. "September 30th" seemed relevant but I couldn't remember why. That's why. Mystery solved. Anyhow, we determined not to do any of that, and just close it out.
 
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On the topic of Gail Simone She hasn't posted a video to her YouTube Channel in over a year. She's at 1.62k Subscribers.

Her last video was a congratulations for "graduating" from her comics school university thing she did on twitter.

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The video features a rather cryptic message

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It didn't have to be the end of your YouTube Journey Gail!

Much like Liberals never found someone to challenge Rush Limbaugh on the air waves it seems SJW comic professionals won't ever find a challenger to compete with Anti-SJW YouTubers in the live streaming talkshow like arena. Twitter remains the Social Media platform of Choice for SJW comic pros. Unless there's someone besides Dan Shahin coming up, and I very well could be unaware, I don't see that changing anytime soon thankfully.
 
On the topic of Gail Simone She hasn't posted a video to her YouTube Channel in over a year. She's at 1.62k Subscribers.

Her last video was a congratulations for "graduating" from her comics school university thing she did on twitter.

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The video features a rather cryptic message

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It didn't have to be the end of your YouTube Journey Gail!

Much like Liberals never found someone to challenge Rush Limbaugh on the air waves it seems SJW comic professionals won't ever find a challenger to compete with Anti-SJW YouTubers in the live streaming talkshow like arena. Twitter remains the Social Media platform of Choice for SJW comic pros. Unless there's someone besides Dan Shahin coming up, and I very well could be unaware, I don't see that changing anytime soon thankfully.
Gail Simone's YouTube career has ended?! Say it ain't so?!
Excuse me while I shed crocodile tears over the news of such a loss.
 
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