#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Going over the past over and over and over again and looking for different answers from me than the ones I've consistently given is boring the piss out of everyone here.

There are no different answers. Go back and read this thread and refresh your memory.

You're allowed to disagree with how I've managed shitheads on YouTube for the past 4 years if you want. But things seem to be better now.
For the most part the intelligent have realized that Comicsgate is a synonym for the EVS fan club, act accordingly or don't expect to sale overpriced comics to the super backers.

Those unwilling to be a grey-haired bobble head and produce a certain type of product would be better off doing something else.

You can't effectively have one foot in and one foot out - CG adherents behave like a cult or a fundamentalist demonization and the backers don't want any lukewarm sentiments.

Yes - I'm sure Starscream or like minded simpletons will be along in a moment to frothily sperg at me to prove how much they aren't cultists...

Being Anti-CG is not an effective way to sell books.

The Venn-Diagram of people who dislike CG and who are also willing to pay $35+ on Indiegogo for a book that will show up 12+ month later is so small it's a statistical abberation. Crowdfunding comics is a small subset of comic collectors - which is already a niche hobby.

I think it is admirable that EVS, Malin, and Richie are deliberately creating content for the clinically retarded, and those with pathologically plebeian taste.

A comic book fan willing to pay to endure a 5-hour live stream of meandering dong-jokes, lispy gay voice, and middle aged men weeping about he-man should absolutely be sold piles of Frog Boxes, toys, and merchandise.

It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.
 
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It was a forbidden love that dare not speak its name. Nick Barrucci had been "advising" Ethan in regards to publishing since 2018. Dynamite published other SJW "talent" which contradicted not only good sense but the CG brand specifically. That was why it was probably kept on the downlow as long as it was. The financial benefit outweighed the fake idealism: Ethan was learning everything he could about independent publishing and Nick had an opportunity to court the CG audience. The backlash wasn't only on the CG front, a few of the aforementioned SJWs (Karla Pacheco, Mark Russell, Christian Ward) on Dynamite's side threatened to cut loose as well. Don't know if any of them actually did.

"Dynamite Entertainment is a partner in the fight for equality and inclusion. Our company was founded on these core values more than 15 years ago and they are essential to the creative process – the work of visionary artists and entrepreneurs – that we are passionate about. Intolerance has no place in our company or our industry. The impulse behind this brief association was that of helping a friend of many decades and his family, and not how that assistance could potentially affect our valued colleagues, partners, and friends. That association is behind us and this time has strengthened our resolve to continue working with the most diverse talent in creating the best comics possible."

I don't interpret this as suddenly both sides realized what they really stood for. Ethan and Nick weren't stupid, they just pushed their respective bases too far. It's about the shekels.


The thread is fine that was 5 months ago and Rewriting Ripley was only tangentially connected with Funny Books (via FM) which might be the reason you don't see much interest in it here. Ethan is the biggest name in the group, he ought to receive the most scrutiny. Don't look at me like I separated you from your money. But if you gotta zap to the extreme bud, don't let me stop you.


I agree! We plebs need to slavishly watch every second of your multi-hour gloat streams before we get to the truth. How else are we going to gunt-guard you? It's sheer hubris in seeking answers elsewhere! I'm glad you cleared that up.

Rekt Planet when?
Cashgrab when?
Brutas when?

Thanks again for promoting that game-changer Red Rooster!
Well yeah. You turn down advice from a willing veteran because they dare do deals with people who disagree politically? Still doesn't make any sense. Are the politics of the CCP printer they'll all have to use without that option available better aligned? Has anybody checked who the postman that delivered your package voted for?
 
Well well well... seems that inclusion and diversity jobs have dried up after all.

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Didn't that dude get a TV deal not too long ago?
 
Imagine trying to assert that everyone in Comicsgate is secretly a rational actor. :smug:
It's a little known fact that when someone fucks with your money you don't have to be a rational actor to react.. :smug:

inductive syllogism
Saying "inductive syllogism" is like saying "mathmatical addition". Redundant. But I'm sure many are impressed with bloviation.


Look, WC were getting to big for their britches but in and of itself that wassn't enough for them and their money to get the boot. But then they started to mess with business relationships and that was a bridge to far. There's a reason why it wasn't until they interfered with busnisess dealings that they got booted.

Or we can pretend that it was a comment Ro made 8 months before and refused to apologize for because that being the real reason is completely congruent with Ethan's and WC's relationship :roll: for the previous two years when such attacks were applauded or ignored.

Was Ethan pissed that his favorite pack of sperging attack customers were treating Anna so poorly? Probably. But if you think it wasn't the money you are naive. Anna's six figure sub count in a ven diagram with Ethan's also almost certainly played a role.

WC overplayed their hand. They weren't thrown out for moral turpitude. If that were the case they'd have been tossed at least a year previous when they weren't so big for their britches.

But then maybe your right and it was all about hurt feelings and not the hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in play. That makes sense too, if you're a "rational actor". :roll:

There are a lot of details we may disagree with but I think his main point is that WC was used when they were beneficial and did Frog's dirty work and were discarded when it became convenient for him.
That's exactly what my main point was. Dropping WC was a business decision. (one I'll credit FROG with good instincts in making)

And this was simply my response to an unwrangled CG tard like The Lonely Man shitting up thread with hot takes that CG is 'all about the moral high ground' so WarCampaign had to go. A laughably bullshit narrative that I'm certain he believes down to his core, God bless him.

Can anyone explain why Frog using Dynamite's printing or distribution resources is considered scandalous by some? To me it seems like a no-brainer to leverage an existing local relationship for printing or distribution if you're lucky enough to have that opportunity. Is it suspicion of some devious plot for CG to become a subsidiary of Dynamite or something?
Well yeah. You turn down advice from a willing veteran because they dare do deals with people who disagree politically? Still doesn't make any sense. Are the politics of the CCP printer they'll all have to use without that option available better aligned? Has anybody checked who the postman that delivered your package voted for?
I think it can be summed up as purity testing and retards over reacting. Expecting anything different from this group seems optomistic at this point doesn't it?

A comic book fan willing to pay to endure a 5-hour live stream of meandering dong-jokes, lispy gay voice, and middle aged men weeping about he-man should absolutely be sold piles of Frog Boxes, toys, and merchandise.

It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.
Having a hard time believing this is really Edwin. He's never been more entertaining.
 
For the most part the intelligent have realized that Comicsgate is a synonym for the EVS fan club, act accordingly or don't expect to sale overpriced comics to the super backers.

Those unwilling to be a grey-haired bobble head and produce a certain type of product would be better off doing something else.

You can't effectively have one foot in and one foot out - CG adherents behave like a cult or a fundamentalist demonization and the backers don't want any lukewarm sentiments.

Yes - I'm sure Starscream or like minded simpletons will be along in a moment to frothily sperg at me to prove how much they aren't cultists...

Being Anti-CG is not an effective way to sell books.

The Venn-Diagram of people who dislike CG and who are also willing to pay $35+ on Indiegogo for a book that will show up 12+ month later is so small it's a statistical abberation. Crowdfunding comics is a small subset of comic collectors - which is already a niche hobby.

I think it is admirable that EVS, Malin, and Richie are deliberately creating content for the clinically retarded, and those with pathologically plebeian taste.

A comic book fan willing to pay to endure a 5-hour live stream of meandering dong-jokes, lispy gay voice, and middle aged men weeping about he-man should absolutely be sold piles of Frog Boxes, toys, and merchandise.

It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.

Everyone that was or is involved in ComicsGate has been punished fairly according to both of us, then, Methwin.
 
Edwin with the fire and brimstone! I promise you Edwin, not all of them are sodomites. They can be converted. I have hope!

Well yeah. You turn down advice from a willing veteran because they dare do deals with people who disagree politically? Still doesn't make any sense. Are the politics of the CCP printer they'll all have to use without that option available better aligned? Has anybody checked who the postman that delivered your package voted for?
I might agree with you if not for the fact that the SJW is a cultural problem not just some obscure political difference of opinion. EVS made it the origin story not only of his own premature departure from DC but the whole reason ComicsGate came into existence, banning any CG campaign from Kickstarter, etc. It was hugely hypocritical and even now going through a place like KS is just barely tolerated.

It would be more akin to a left-leaning republican from a deeply conservative state and a right-leaning democrat from an extremely progressive state joining forces in a kool-aid campaign designed to help both of their careers. Either join one party or the other, make a new one, but don't act like there wouldn't be a problem if you took advantage of your constituents like that. It doesn't make sense unless it's about the money first. Malin is the hardcore ideologue brownshirt of CG, at least you know where he stands... but it's still a source of tension within CG that holds some promise for development. Cecil is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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Well well well... seems that inclusion and diversity jobs have dried up after all.

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Gee I guess starting shit at DC with people working on their own franchise whilst you are barely picking up annual and one-shot work would get you shown the door :o

In all seriousness I was wondering what the fallout of his bizarre #metoo accusation against SGM would be, DC obviously can't/won't discipline or reprimand them, certainly not publicly but in the end it would be clear who they would want to support by who is getting ongoing work, and while it might not be the only factor I can't imagine it helped. Thankfully SGM is still plugging away at his new Bat book so there is some small justice in the universe.
 
Well well well... seems that inclusion and diversity jobs have dried up after all.

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That’s cuz Mags got replaced by the next big thing, Vita Ayala. Sux for him.

For the most part the intelligent have realized that Comicsgate is a synonym for the EVS fan club, act accordingly or don't expect to sale overpriced comics to the super backers.

Those unwilling to be a grey-haired bobble head and produce a certain type of product would be better off doing something else.

You can't effectively have one foot in and one foot out - CG adherents behave like a cult or a fundamentalist demonization and the backers don't want any lukewarm sentiments.

Yes - I'm sure Starscream or like minded simpletons will be along in a moment to frothily sperg at me to prove how much they aren't cultists...

Being Anti-CG is not an effective way to sell books.

The Venn-Diagram of people who dislike CG and who are also willing to pay $35+ on Indiegogo for a book that will show up 12+ month later is so small it's a statistical abberation. Crowdfunding comics is a small subset of comic collectors - which is already a niche hobby.

I think it is admirable that EVS, Malin, and Richie are deliberately creating content for the clinically retarded, and those with pathologically plebeian taste.

A comic book fan willing to pay to endure a 5-hour live stream of meandering dong-jokes, lispy gay voice, and middle aged men weeping about he-man should absolutely be sold piles of Frog Boxes, toys, and merchandise.

It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.

I see @Starscreams Cape got you in your feelings really good, didn’t he?
 
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From the gofundme:

"Since the pandemic hit, freelance work has been harder and harder to come by, and my real primary source of income, graphic novels for traditional publishers, has been profoundly delayed. My savings have been sufficient to cover my bills, but those are getting very close to depleted.

We're working on cutting down expenses, and I've asked for a raise at my day job, but we're really hitting the bone. I am in sore, sore need of some help right now. Between our insurance, our rent, and our bills, we're short ~$1000 a month. That used to be fine, when I could reasonably expect a book sale every few months, but publishing is still really disrupted."

He's full of shit. Not only was there massive handouts to independent contractors during the pandemic, foreclosure/eviction moratoriums, and utility assistance, but a guy working a full-time job should not be running a deficit of $1000/month because his side hustle dried up. If Brian is having issues--and I sincerely doubt he is--its because he chose to live above his means and this gofundme is about allowing him to maintain his standard of living so he doesn't have to what most people did during the pandemic and tighten his belt.

Fuck Brian. Move someplace cheaper and stop begging people to support your degeneracy.
 
For the most part the intelligent have realized that Comicsgate is a synonym for the EVS fan club, act accordingly or don't expect to sale overpriced comics to the super backers.

Those unwilling to be a grey-haired bobble head and produce a certain type of product would be better off doing something else.

You can't effectively have one foot in and one foot out - CG adherents behave like a cult or a fundamentalist demonization and the backers don't want any lukewarm sentiments.

Yes - I'm sure Starscream or like minded simpletons will be along in a moment to frothily sperg at me to prove how much they aren't cultists...

Being Anti-CG is not an effective way to sell books.

The Venn-Diagram of people who dislike CG and who are also willing to pay $35+ on Indiegogo for a book that will show up 12+ month later is so small it's a statistical abberation. Crowdfunding comics is a small subset of comic collectors - which is already a niche hobby.

I think it is admirable that EVS, Malin, and Richie are deliberately creating content for the clinically retarded, and those with pathologically plebeian taste.

A comic book fan willing to pay to endure a 5-hour live stream of meandering dong-jokes, lispy gay voice, and middle aged men weeping about he-man should absolutely be sold piles of Frog Boxes, toys, and merchandise.

It is an appropriate penalty for not cultivating better judgement and taste.
Sometimes less is more. Just say comicsgate is a gay circle jerk behind a pizza parlour.

Why do you care about the toys? Ultimately there's no way to produce these toys in the USA. Name one factory that can do action figures in the United States?

I hope your shoes and jeans were made in the USA or some other high wage country. I am rocking a pair of Russell moccasins boots did you fork over 600 bucks to make sure your shoes weren't made in a Chinese concentration camp? Like damn those prison camps mostly make fireworks and ornaments. Really cheap shit. It takes expensive equipment to make action figures you know they don't let prisoners use that.
 
Shoutout to the paypig that decided to shell out $250 for this hideous monstrosity on the auction stream hosted by EVS yesterday.
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I wonder how much people would pay for a shit stain on paper if it was from the "haha funny man" Cecil?
 
The Iconic Comics/Kamen America people at Bell County ComicCon. Impressive looking booth. How much does doing something like this cost, I wonder? There's more on Twitter, but not much. Mostly Doug Ernst working the booth, etc.

As best I can tell Peggy Poulter is not there, despite being what looks like it being pretty close to Dallas. Hard to judge in a state the size of Texas, admittedly.

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The Iconic Comics/Kamen America people at Bell County ComicCon. Impressive looking booth. How much does doing something like this cost, I wonder? There's more on Twitter, but not much. Mostly Doug Ernst working the booth, etc.

As best I can tell Peggy Poulter is not there, despite being what looks like it being pretty close to Dallas. Hard to judge in a state the size of Texas, admittedly.

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Good on Tim and Doug!
 
The Iconic Comics/Kamen America people at Bell County ComicCon. Impressive looking booth. How much does doing something like this cost, I wonder? There's more on Twitter, but not much. Mostly Doug Ernst working the booth, etc.

As best I can tell Peggy Poulter is not there, despite being what looks like it being pretty close to Dallas. Hard to judge in a state the size of Texas, admittedly.

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Ok, I'm impressed.
Congratulations to Tim Lim and Doug Ernst! You've earned it!
 
Saying "inductive syllogism" is like saying "mathmatical addition". Redundant.
Not at all Newman's, not at all. There are different levels of supporting evidence required between making deductive and inductive syllogisms. For example: "Untampered livestream footage depicts things that at one point happened" + "Pilule Noire linked Panboy going on a Frog livestream to say that Warcampaign is leaving Comicsgate" = "Panboy went on a Frog livestream to say that Warcampaign is leaving Comicsgate" is a good example of a deductive syllogism.

By contrast, "Anna and Cecil had deals with Dynamite" + "WC is no longer part of Comicsgate as a result of their feud with Anna and Cecil" = "Warcampaign must have been eliminated for questioning Dynamite" is an example of an inductive syllogism because it is not self-evident but instead extrapolates its conclusion, which is why inductive reasoning requires supportive evidence in order to not risk lapsing into logical fallacy.

Was Ethan pissed that his favorite pack of sperging attack customers were treating Anna so poorly? Probably. But if you think it wasn't the money you are naive. Anna's six figure sub count in a ven diagram with Ethan's also almost certainly played a role.
But the thing is, I can list all sorts of factors that affected Frog's bottom line in the situation. For example, Cecil and Jon Malin are core parts of his youtube show, which generates him revenue. Anna's tens of thousands of subscribers and fans would be less likely to patronize a movement or creator that condones abusing her, that too can be reduced to a matter of which choice is more profitable. To say nothing of the viewers of the spectacle that are simply repelled by what they are seeing and decide to disconnect entirely - that too is a hit in the wallet. Yet you went ahead and said "WC was cancelled by Ethan because they attacked Dynamite" on the basis of being motivated by money. I ask on what basis can you prioritize that motive for Frog's actions over all the other profit-based motivations listed above. This is why evidence is expected when making an argument based on inductive logic.

WC overplayed their hand. They weren't thrown out for moral turpitude. If that were the case they'd have been tossed at least a year previous when they weren't so big for their britches.
I never said they were thrown out on grounds of moral turpitude, I simply disagreed on the cause that led to their expulsion. Your explanation begins and ends with Frog, the only man in your world who possesses true agency. If Warcampaign left Comicsgate, it was because they got too close to the mafioso-like connection between him and fellow greasy Jersey dweller Nick Barrucci.

My explanation was that Warcampaign for months of their own free will made decisions (such as rabble rouse over Dynamite's involvement in CG) that led to forcing a confrontation where Frog had to pick between them and the JACK show and them coming out on the losing end of a cost-benefit analysis. The reason they did this was to pursue a feud between themselves and Anna, and in a broader sense over being able to gatekeep who gets to promote within Comicsgate in general. As you say, they overplayed their hand.
 
Thank you for posting something that was actually informative and worth reading in this dumpster fire of a thread. Today was worth it to log in and scroll past the same repetitive, worthless walls of alogging text to find the diamond in the rough.

Okay now we can go back to bitching about the Frogiarchy and everyone can show us on the Nerkish doll where they were touched.
This thread has gone to absolute shit because you and the Newman faggots cannot stop jacking off your EVS hate boners. I have seen interesting shit - most notably the lulz surrounding Re-Writing Ripley get absolutely swallowed by pages of inane fucking bitching about Frog Man bad. There are very obviously no mods looking at this thread, because at he very least, you and Newman's Own need to be banished to the Hanger On's thread so something interesting can be posted on this thread without it being swallowed the fuck up with pages of REEE ETHAN REEEE.

Nobody cares. If Ethan's every breath is such an absolute assault on the fibers of your being that you have to shit up anything interesting with your retarded ass a-logging, may I suggest suicide. Ethan won't bother you anymore, we won't be bothered anymore, and I've got a strong feeling that none of you faggots will be missed anywhere else either. Please kill yourselves.

Ouch. But hey, it is all just the Newmans and Absurdity, right? They were the ones getting into a slap fight with a boomer from Hawaii...

Shoutout to the paypig that decided to shell out $250 for this hideous monstrosity on the auction stream hosted by EVS yesterday.
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I wonder how much people would pay for a shit stain on paper if it was from the "haha funny man" Cecil?

B-but we gotta own the bad Doug peoplez gayz! :roll: :lol:

No matter how much shit I catch, I'll never not laugh at gators. How can you not? I can't hate on Cecil anymore. At this point people like Darth Fatass don't deserve to have money...

The Iconic Comics/Kamen America people at Bell County ComicCon. Impressive looking booth. How much does doing something like this cost, I wonder? There's more on Twitter, but not much. Mostly Doug Ernst working the booth, etc.

As best I can tell Peggy Poulter is not there, despite being what looks like it being pretty close to Dallas. Hard to judge in a state the size of Texas, admittedly.

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Wow! Look at all that failure from leaving comicsgate.
 
Shoutout to the paypig that decided to shell out $250 for this hideous monstrosity on the auction stream hosted by EVS yesterday.
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I wonder how much people would pay for a shit stain on paper if it was from the "haha funny man" Cecil?
He's doing another one for tonight's (?) auction? It literally looks like something your nephew gives you to hang on the refrigerator. Wonder if it will sell? I'm assuming (hoping?) the whole thing is a joke I'm not plugged into.
Twitter - not worth archving, good lord.
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