Homeboy Bob Proctor
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Dalton also was a huge pussy about his streams he would only stream in safe spots. I really wanted to see him go to a black ghetto and do it and he never did because hes a pussy.
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But according to the people in this conversation, you can't fight back. Because you have "provoked" the situation with your speech, you have lost the right to defend yourself. Your choices are to not defend yourself and lose your life to the assault, or to defend yourself and lose your life to prison. By confronting aYou can confront people aggressively and call them a nigger or a "pussy ass bitch" or whatever but you may expect that they might try to fight you. At that point you can either fight back
Yes they did.No one said that.
But apparently it does not permit the offending party to defend themselves, leaving then with the option of not defending yourself and losing your life to the assault, or defending yourself and losing your life to prison. Either way, you have lost your right to live by offended a black man.Fighting words doctrine doesn't permit the offended party to inflict physical harm in response to a verbal taunt. That would still class as assault.
He was arrested for defending himself. According to you, he lost the right to defend himself due to his "provocation", such provocation consisting of speech. Which means he very much was "aRrEsTeD foR FrEe spEeCh".The fact he isn't charged for hate speech but him pulling out his gun first that resulted in the altercation
Wrong, making an effort to exit the situation by vocalizing that you don't want to fight, or attempting a physical retreat, will restore your right to self-defense after you provoke someone. That's why a big part of this case hinges on whether Dalton tried to walk away from Fox before the latter attacked him. I know it breaks your heart, but you're not a second-class citizen.But apparently it does not permit the offending party to defend themselves, leaving then with the option of not defending yourself and losing your life to the assault, or defending yourself and losing your life to prison. Either way, you have lost your right to live by offended a black man.
In order to "restore your right to self-defense" you first have to lose it. So it is your position that he lost his right to self defense, (and therefore his right to live) by confronting a black man with words.by vocalizing that you don't want to fight, or attempting a physical retreat, will restore your right to self-defense after you provoke someone.
*lethal self defense. My apologies.In order to "restore your right to self-defense" you first have to lose it. So it is your position that he lost his right to self defense, (and therefore his right to live) by confronting a black man with words.
You have completely validated my original post. You admit that you want there to be no right for a white man to confront a black man, even only with words, and that a white man who confronts a black man should lose the right to live.
It's not at all like he wanted it to happen. It's like he was willing to have it happen, if the price of it not happening was to surrender his and everyone's right to free speech.
So you admit that you want there to be no right for a white man to confront a black man
According to you, you have lost the right to self defense when you "provoke" them with your speech. So no, you cannot punch back. If you do you will go to prison for assault, according to your understanding or free speech and provocation.I mean when they punch you, you can obviously punch back without consequence
According to you, you have lost the right to self defense when you "provoke" them with your speech. So no, you cannot punch back. If you do you will go to prison for assault, according to your understanding or free speech and provocation.
You have a choice of either being pummeled without defending yourself, or going to prison. You have lost the right to live because you dared to offend aBrahminBlack man.
Chaplinsky is a ghost of its former self and the whole "fighting words" doctrine is on life support (correctly). In any event, what's left of the doctrine would not allow just using a racial slur to be criminally prosecutable, but not really the issue here. It's somewhat relevant in that whether the speech in question wasn't even Constitutionally protected would make it more or less likely that you could make a valid self-defense claim after deliberately angering somone so that you could then shoot them, which is what the prosecution will argue he was doing.It really isn't. We can invoke 1A all day long, but there is a line. The situation where you are using potentially lethal force after causing the need for that force is very often where that line is. The Supreme Court knew this with Chaplinsky, but they've also known that not everything qualifies. If anything, what qualifies as "fighting words" anymore has been reduced down to basically just the racial slurs.
If it actually goes to trial it will come down to what the pattern jury instructions are for this kind of case and how much the jury hates him if he doesn't take a bench trial. With few exceptions, you can't just escalate straight from fists to guns.That's why a big part of this case hinges on whether Dalton tried to walk away from Fox before the latter attacked him. I know it breaks your heart, but you're not a second-class citizen.
Wow you're so cool and above it allBecause it's Clarksville, Tennessee. Chud being a confirmed drug addict and public nusiance to civilized whites. *spits* Nothing but inbreeds and methheads. You haven't lived or worked there, so you wouldn't understand.
How many? Don't know don't care. Another dead nigger, another dead white inbred. Good, reduce the surplus population and rid proper white society of its undesirables.
>tfw I had to shoot the military veteran in the court house parking lot while holding my selfie stick for cash otherwise I would have went to jail for assault instead of murderYou have a choice of either being pummeled without defending yourself, or going to prison. You have lost the right to live because you dared to offend aBrahminBlack man.
At this point, you're just being willfully ignorant of provocation doctrine. The argument isn't that Chud should have let himself be tortured to death because he was shouting nigger, it's that he would have lost the ability to claim self-defense by actively antagonizing Fox and then goading him to attack. That provocation only extends so far though, as Fox would not have been able to argue that he was entitled to murder Chud over the provocation but could theoretically have had his sentence reduced over breaking his nose from a punch. The fact that Chud went the extra step by shooting Fox after being punched is probably the only reason Fox isn't being charged as well, since it turned a provoked assault into conspiracy to kill.According to you, you have lost the right to self defense when you "provoke" them with your speech. So no, you cannot punch back. If you do you will go to prison for assault, according to your understanding or free speech and provocation.
You have a choice of either being pummeled without defending yourself, or going to prison. You have lost the right to live because you dared to offend aBrahminBlack man.
Looks pretty unconstitutional to me.Chuds gag order
This dude has no eggshell skull. He's thick as a brick.I'm aware of the "eggshell skull" theory you're referencing but as far as I'm aware that's not the sort of argument the courts tend to go for, and it's ultimately case law that denotes what the law is in practice.
So what is the narrative now? Dalton was a pussy and just dealt with the safe black individuals in nice areas before a real hood nigga came and showed him what for? Or is it that he was instigating fights all over trying to pick fights with as many black people as he could, pepper spraying them away, but his blood lust finally got the better of him and he yelled racial slurs at then drew his gun on a peaceful black vet who started punching him in response to the gun being drawn?Dalton also was a huge pussy about his streams he would only stream in safe spots. I really wanted to see him go to a black ghetto and do it and he never did because hes a pussy.
If this is actually true, that is really dumb. Elderly people, women, guys who aren't very fit, and just someone who happens to be really unlucky could be killed or permanently injured from a punch to the head. Even if the first punch doesn't do permanent damage, if it knocks someone out, then you are just at the mercy of the other person not to do worse. I have a feeling this isn't generally true though, even if it is the letter of the law. I have seen plenty of self defense videos where someone randomly starts getting punched or even just charged at by an unarmed individual and shoots the attacker, yet faces no charges.With few exceptions, you can't just escalate straight from fists to guns.
How is this relevant? You can't tell if someone is a military veteran when you are in a street fight with them. Even if they are, it doesn't matter. What should you do, say oh that guy has a purple heart I guess I should let him hit me some more? It is just an emotional appeal to boomers who worship the US military. Lots of military guys are not good people who just join up because they have nothing else going for them.military veteran
I agree, I don't see how gag orders are justified usually though. It seems like removal of constitutional rights before someone is found guilty.Looks pretty unconstitutional to me.
This is my most closely-followed thread at the moment (there's a serious lolcow content drought), and neither of these two dark-complexioned gentleman have fantasized about Chud being raped in prison by black inmates. At all. I'm worried about ya.
I'm pretty sure there was at least one other post by those two but it may have been deleted by mods or maybe I just can't find it in the search, I'm unsure.The physical part is coming soon.He's spiritually buck broken.
Thanks for further proving my pointNo one is going to rape Dalton. He is just going to be put into racial sensitivity training. Just so happens, the instructor is Tyrone and class is in the prison shower.
> theyre constantly talking about homosexual rapeI'm pretty sure there was at least one other post by those two but it may have been deleted by mods or maybe I just can't find it in the search, I'm unsure.
There is an ambiance of homosexual interracial porn that silently plays in your brain at all hours of the day, filling you with a dull, aching rage that doesn't even register anymore, occasionally popping into your conscious via hallucinations like this one. I think you need to see a doctor. Or maybe a predominantly black gay bar, idk.