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There's almost no substance to DSP as a lolcow at this point. He's like 40, he's calmer, he's married, and while he's very incompetent and inflexible, he rarely treads outside of his comfort zone. Not being willing to set up a free computer was one of those things he did on his own with help of his supporters, no detractors involved.

The people who hate Phil definitely have some sort of complex that makes them lash out at everyone who doesn't hate DSP. I also feel they're very autistic and can't let go. Like, they're stuck on him, can't enjoy anyone else, refuse to try, get mad at his supporters because they feel his good income level means there won't be content, which they can't stand because only DSP matters to them.

Every interaction with DSP people is bad. Users in this board hate this site. They complain that I don't feature things that interest them. When I do feature DSP, they hate the users that visit the board. When PPP tries to ego up Phil for content, they hate him. When I agree to a game with Phil, they lash out at me. If I respond, they start freaking out. I haven't enjoyed this board since neger psykolog.
 
As much as the DSP detractors have spawned the dent tractors, I don't think it's Josh's or the Casino's fault that a few of their fans can't control themselves.
Not blaming them just like I don't blame any creator for what their deranged e-sons do. I don't even blame Pewdiepie for Christchurch.
I do think Josh is being stubborn in just assuming the board is still the same and using outside sources as reasons why this board sucks.
To me it makes about as much sense as blaming the KF boards for what Bella did to Chris, or about Cog beating up Ralph in Portugal. It happened and it was posted here, that's it.

Refusing to understand that money related things like the bank leaks are on topic when money is DSP's entire persona is like not getting why people in Deathfats talk so much about food.
There is some humor in this whole Kino casino arc, but it isn't from spamming about king Phil and other such mindless regurgitation. I see it enough in detractor chat when people accuse Phil of something he's never done, then I have to be the asshole and try to correct them.
It's been said a million times (just realized I used a phil-ism) but there's plenty to make fun of without making shit up.
It's gay to try to be a moderator for a chat about DSP's when his entire existence is meme after meme after meme.
 
There's almost no substance to DSP as a lolcow at this point. He's like 40, he's calmer, he's married, and while he's very incompetent and inflexible, he rarely treads outside of his comfort zone. Not being willing to set up a free computer was one of those things he did on his own with help of his supporters, no detractors involved.

The people who hate Phil definitely have some sort of complex that makes them lash out at everyone who doesn't hate DSP. I also feel they're very autistic and can't let go. Like, they're stuck on him, can't enjoy anyone else, refuse to try, get mad at his supporters because they feel his good income level means there won't be content, which they can't stand because only DSP matters to them.

Every interaction with DSP people is bad. Users in this board hate this site. They complain that I don't feature things that interest them. When I do feature DSP, they hate the users that visit the board. When PPP tries to ego up Phil for content, they hate him. When I agree to a game with Phil, they lash out at me. If I respond, they start freaking out. I haven't enjoyed this board since neger psykolog.
I have the perfect solution.

Offer DSP to mod his sub board here and nothing else. It will be the true King of Hate forums. Also the funniest outcome
 
Just close the board down then. Ban anyone that complains, ban anyone that tries to make a DSP thread on other boards and just be done with it.

It's clear that there will never be common ground between the farms at large and the DSP board so it's either close it or just pretend it doesn't exist and never mention it again, don't feature anything and don't mention it on stream because everytime either of those things happen this whole debate starts back up and nothing get achieved except everyone get butt hurt.
 
There's almost no substance to DSP as a lolcow at this point.
Agree to disagree.
He's like 40,
He's the same age as Rekieta.
he's calmer,
Haven't been watching him this last week, obviously :story:
he's married,
:story:
Not being willing to set up a free computer was one of those things he did on his own with help of his supporters, no detractors involved.
I mean, so do Ralph's pillstreams, his supporters are the ones paying for the drugs and booze.
The people who hate Phil definitely have some sort of complex that makes them lash out at everyone who doesn't hate DSP. I also feel they're very autistic and can't let go. Like, they're stuck on him, can't enjoy anyone else, refuse to try, get mad at his supporters because they feel his good income level means there won't be content, which they can't stand because only DSP matters to them.

Every interaction with DSP people is bad. Users in this board hate this site. They complain that I don't feature things that interest them. When I do feature DSP, they hate the users that visit the board. When PPP tries to ego up Phil for content, they hate him. When I agree to a game with Phil, they lash out at me. If I respond, they start freaking out. I haven't enjoyed this board since neger psykolog.
I can't speak to any of this, cause I don't hate Phil, nor you, nor KF, nor PPP, and enjoy several lolcows.

But I still do understand the reason why "money" is a topic when it comes to Phil is because that the defining aspect of his personality, just like with Rekieta and alcohol/degeneracy or whatever your pick of lolcow with a certain obsession is.
 
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I won't speak for anybody else but I'm always in support of DSP leaving his comfort zone, going on Side Scrollers, Kino Casino, chatting with Metokur, chatting with Muta, playing vidya with Warski or you (Null), doing co-op with his friend Brian, going on Lolcow Live, getting interviewed by TheQuartering or Destiny and so on. For me DSP is entertaining when he's juxtaposed with other people, and if it ends up sucking oh well, because more often than not it doesn't.

Seeing him desperately strapped for cash and panic-begging is funny, but it's definitely not the be-all and end-all of DSP content. The whole reason I got into watching him was because he's the Mr. Magoo of gaming and his playthroughs are like watching a retard try to cook a meal from scratch.

I don't hate this site at all and the DSP board wasn't even why I originally came here on a different account in 2017. It was to laugh at Sargon of Akkad, which lead me to Metokur, which lead me to DSP via Jim watching clips of him playing GTA. As an old bastard who doesn't get online as much as I used to, one lolcow is easily enough to fill my online browsing time, but I used to frequent Ralph, JF, Tonka, Rekieta, Fuentes etc. Rekieta has been fucking wild lately so that's been fun to watch.

Also when you (Null) feature this place, it's not so much that we hate the visitors (though clearly some level of gatekeeping exists) but that the visitors come in here with preconceived notions of DSP's detractors being cyber-terrorist freaks or something, and it's just immediately a clash for no real reason. At the very least the blame is equal between the visitors and the regulars when that happens. I think this subforum needs new life so chasing people off would be retarded, but nobody seems to come here curious as to why DSP has one of the most active and long-running boards on KF, they already think they know everything, and so they're actually just here to antagonize.

I get a general sense that the DSP board users get painted with a brush based on how utterly fucking retarded the detractor communities are elsewhere (eg Youtube is particularly bad) whereas most of us in here are pretty sensible, are good at keeping unhinged haters in check, are good at discouraging IRL trolling and fags who come in here to brag after doing gay-ops, have a good sense of humor, and generally maintain ourselves with very little moderation.
 
typed up a big as fuck post and deleted it all but basically phil is a delusional narcissistic asshole who is dumb as fuck and bad at absolutely everything he does, he treats his fans like complete shit and sucks complete ass at games and ebegs hardcore constantly, if that's not a lolcow i don't know what is, do you have to be a deadbeat child abuser or mother rapist to be a lolcow now just because some do that??

will say that the kool kids dentractor club (meerkat and friends, proper, doody, snort hogan, et all) are all major fucking faggots, i'd rather not see dsp somehow talk phil into deleting his fucking board i think his ego has been boosted enough
 
There's almost no substance to DSP as a lolcow at this point. He's like 40, he's calmer, he's married, and while he's very incompetent and inflexible, he rarely treads outside of his comfort zone. Not being willing to set up a free computer was one of those things he did on his own with help of his supporters, no detractors involved.
I truly mean this with absolutely no malice because I'm not trying to pick a fight or gatekeep Phil, but I don't think you get the appeal of him. Which is fine and honestly, probably for the best. There's no denying we're all a little more autistic for following Phil. I don't think Phil has calmed down at all, he's arguably been at his most unhinged in the last year or so, to the point where even people who have regularly followed Phil for years through some pretty angry arcs, like being banned from Twitch, haven't seen Phil so unhinged. I think to an extent he's calmed down over the last few weeks, but that's because he's riding a money high.

People tend to miss a lot of what makes Phil so good as a cow. You mentioned the computer, but missed that it (most likely) wasn't free and something he bought for himself. And the reason he bought it? Because he's so insecure about his Street Fighter 6 rank that he wanted to play it on PC because it doesn't use the same mastery rankings as his console accounts. It let him fight new players again so he could style on them because he can't handle playing against players that have a few games under their belt. There's also some weird stuff with him describing lag or...anti lag or something, which I suppose could be chalked up to Phil just being incompetent, but I feel like there's a difference between Phil fumbling about with a USB stick versus Phil making up excuses.

I don't think him being in his 40's or married really changes much. Honestly, Phil was more normal before he was married because Leanna was less alien than Kat. It's also not anything that's particularly unique to Phil. I mean, a lot of these criticisms could apply to a cow like Brianna Wu. He's in his 40's, married and almost never leaves his Twitter safespace except sometimes to appear on a small podcast that probably has less of an audience than KC. He's arguably calmer since his gamergate days, and a lot of the amusement comes from John being incompetent and inflexible, but nobody would argue that we should stop covering him.
The people who hate Phil definitely have some sort of complex that makes them lash out at everyone who doesn't hate DSP. I also feel they're very autistic and can't let go. Like, they're stuck on him, can't enjoy anyone else, refuse to try, get mad at his supporters because they feel his good income level means there won't be content, which they can't stand because only DSP matters to them.
100% agree and I'll shamelessly plug https://kiwifarms.st/threads/darksydephil-a-logs-general.17334/ again. Nobody is denying there are people who take Phil way too seriously and needlessly get angry about him. It's just that, we don't think the calls are coming from inside the house. Again, I won't deny there was a point there were a lot more angry posters here, but that was years ago back when Phil was on Twitch. I'd even go so far as to add that those type of people are jealous of Phil. We've had some weird posters who have talked about feeling sad because they don't have a girlfriend and someone like Phil is married, or they work X hours and make half of what Phil does. But they only post once or twice and, after receiving lots of rainbow stickers, tend to never post again and instead go to reddit/discord/youtube. We'll sometimes talk about the more noteworthy ones, but I think a lot of the regulars here largely try to avoid those types of places because it's too angry/autistic. It even gets mentioned in the main thread sometimes when discussing restreams, with a lot of people not liking the options because the YouTube audience in those communities is too miserable to interact with.
Every interaction with DSP people is bad. Users in this board hate this site. They complain that I don't feature things that interest them. When I do feature DSP, they hate the users that visit the board. When PPP tries to ego up Phil for content, they hate him. When I agree to a game with Phil, they lash out at me. If I respond, they start freaking out. I haven't enjoyed this board since neger psykolog.
I can obviously only speak for what gets posted privately, so I'm not sure if people are privately messaging you or something, but I've never seen anyone here really clamoring for something to get featured. I think the possibility of getting featured comes up once in awhile, but it's more of an in passing thing. The last feature especially was rough because of the wording on it. Which I know had nothing to do with you because you didn't feature it, and I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus because it really was just an honest mistake, but I think it came off sounding like "Look at the retards on the DSP board freaking out" so a lot of people took that as open season and came in here treating it like a massive halal thread or something because they misunderstood the "dentractor" part.

I honestly wish more people would stumble onto Phil because it's always nice to have newcomers. There are some people who come in and post something like "I haven't followed Phil for X amount of time, what's he up to" and it's all pretty amicable. Even when people ask what the appeal is in Phil tends to be pretty calm as long as it isn't an obvious troll post like "why do all of you have such massive hateboners for this guy who plays games poorly."

I do agree there's bad blood between you and some of the users, which sucks because there was a time you were casually posting when Phil was doing joystick repairs and it felt like we were all on the same page, but it feels like some people are still bitter about previous interactions and looking to get into a slapfight. I think 90% of the time you get tagged it's someone throwing out bait. And that I have no idea what to do about.

I won't pretend I agree with everything you say about Phil, like I said at the top of this giant wall of text, I think there's a lot you don't really see/get about Phil. And there's honestly a good chance Phil just isn't the type of cow for you. I think we all have our own preferences with lolcows, I never understood the appeal of the Gunt boards and I try to avoid a lot of the Animal Fucker threads because that content isn't entertaining for me. Following Phil is really like having a favorite book/movie/show that you know is absolute garbage and wouldn't willingly admit to enjoying in casual conversatio, but will gladly talk about for hours with fellow fans.

I really have no solution to that particular issue. Making a "don't bother Null" rule just seems like it's asking more people to passive aggressively (or just outright aggressively) tag you in stuff. I guess that's why I decided to write a mini-thesis that hopefully doesn't come off as aggressive, passive or otherwise, to try and explain how we see the board/some of our frustrations with how we're seen. I think it's pretty obvious I don't want the board to close or anything, but if it's genuinely that hated and a constant source of frustration and not something that can be ignored, maybe it's worth considering. I'd ask what could be done to make the boards a better place, but it seems like a moot point because I don't really see any of the issues present, minus the slapfighting with you, and when pressed for examples, it's usually from an outside source like YouTube/Reddit/Twitter/Discord, which we obviously have no control over.
 
Personally, when I started lurking here years ago, it was because I was looking for DSP content but found the Reddit and Youtube spheres to be unbelievably retarded. Then I go to the Farms and find that the DSP board is well moderated with a decent (if imperfect) sense of when a member is getting too deep in the Vortex; people take DSP seriously enough to write interesting, well thought posts, but light enough that it never sucked the fun away. The culture was and is solid. Losing the board would be extremely unfortunate in my opinion.

As to why this place is isolated, I've tried other threads (and have a couple of other places I check on from time to time), but the general culture is the site has consisently rubbed me the wrong way. While historically the main DSP thread is constantly being swept, most threads on the rest of the site are routinely off topic, making is very hard to find relevant information. To pick a recent example, the Rekieta thread is 5% useful/interesting tidbits and the rest is thirst posting, memes, "I unironically hope Nick will die", etc. When he got raided, I remember sifting through 50 or so pages of people arguing about whether or not high schoolers should do their own laundry before I just gave up and waited for the MATI recap. Similarly, checking out political threads means being greeted with people like HHH expertly baiting new users into page after page of the same dumb, circular arguments.

Sometimes this works (the Tranch thread being constantly off topic was what made it so good in my opinion), but the few non-DSP threads I can stick with are the ones that are equally isolated from the body (and therefore culture) of the site (Lily Orchard comes to mind, a spot so removed the main Farms culture that the regular posters use she/her for a TiM). I always thought this place was at its best when it felt like a crowd sourced documentary with each poster attempting a documentarian's emphasis on correct facts and appropriate personal seperation, but that really isn't the way most threads are approached, written or moderated.

This board certainly doesn't always live up to that halcyonic ideal- for every Surly Muppet, actually, or Moonrocker, there's a Little Bill or Peace of Peace, but I like that it seems like people here geniunely try and it would geniunely disappointing to see another of my Internet hobbies get extinguished.
 
There's almost no substance to DSP as a lolcow at this point. He's like 40, he's calmer, he's married, and while he's very incompetent and inflexible, he rarely treads outside of his comfort zone. Not being willing to set up a free computer was one of those things he did on his own with help of his supporters, no detractors involved.

The people who hate Phil definitely have some sort of complex that makes them lash out at everyone who doesn't hate DSP. I also feel they're very autistic and can't let go. Like, they're stuck on him, can't enjoy anyone else, refuse to try, get mad at his supporters because they feel his good income level means there won't be content, which they can't stand because only DSP matters to them.

Every interaction with DSP people is bad. Users in this board hate this site. They complain that I don't feature things that interest them. When I do feature DSP, they hate the users that visit the board. When PPP tries to ego up Phil for content, they hate him. When I agree to a game with Phil, they lash out at me. If I respond, they start freaking out. I haven't enjoyed this board since neger psykolog.
I disagree and think its hypocritical to shut down this board, I've been lurking for awhile, but have been following. phil is just as autistic as hes always been, if your gonna shut down this board because you don't like it then it's against "freedom of speech" at that point make sure to take everything down on mister metokur too because you didn't enjoy that board recently either. Look i get it, but your gonna let phil direct what you do?
 
LOL REALLY?
It's either him or someone who hates him pretending to be him. I try not to let any of that Autism Cube occupy my mind, seems like a mind virus. It takes people with stronger stomachs for pure unbridled autism than I have to unravel it.

SuperHound even has a website where he larps as the President & Prime Minister of the United Republics of Detractors and issues official decrees and shit.
@actually
You might be in big trouble.
The United Republics Of Detractors Court is ordering your moderator status within the confines of the DarksydePhil subforum to be taken away.
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It'll be easier if I forward you the Court Order:
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The Official website for the Office of the Prime Minister of the United Republics of Detractors:
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Detractor Palace Web Page:
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The Official webpage of the United Republics Ministry of Commerce and Finance:
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The Official Webpage for the United Republics of Detractors Government:
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U.R. Ministry of Foreign Affairs:
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I'd advise that if you go to the actual URL of these sites, you take the precautions necessary and do not download anything, I've dealt with those in the First Region, they can be complete snakes.
 
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