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God of Nothing said:
Wow. I don't remember that.
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An excerpt on his death from the Wiki, since I cannot find video.
Through unknown circumstances, the military under Luthor's leadership was able to capture the Flash. Beaten, bruised, and weakened, Flash was brought before the President. Held in place by two soldiers, President Luthor publicly executed the Flash with a shotgun.
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Flash (Justice Lord)

In a parallel universe, the Flash was instrumental in the Justice Lords' adoption of fascist methods and their subjugation of their Earth for what they saw as the greater good. This Flash's history was identical to his Justice League counterpart until President Lex Luthor threatened the world...
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Basic Blonde Boy said:
An excerpt on his death from the Wiki, since I cannot find video.

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Flash (Justice Lord)

In a parallel universe, the Flash was instrumental in the Justice Lords' adoption of fascist methods and their subjugation of their Earth for what they saw as the greater good. This Flash's history was identical to his Justice League counterpart until President Lex Luthor threatened the world...
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Fucking metal.
 
Gar For Archer said:
The MCU and its consequences have been a disaster for Western cinema.
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This is true not in the ways people expect.

Because of the Marvel films, you got Cowboy Bebop, Mass Effect: Andromeda, and others trying to do that same Wheaton-esque dialogue with failure, people trying to make their own cinematic universes, and people having no interest in anything other than Marvel films. It also led to wokesters and talentless hacks destroying the comic book industry. DC just fell on its face and couldn’t have any influence from there.
Basic Blonde Boy said:
The problem was that DC had no direction on a cinematic universe. I get that that is common to say, but it really goes deeper than the post-Man of Steel stuff. Technically Green Lantern was made to be the first DCEU film, but that makes no sense. Neither The Dark Knight Rises nor Man of Steel seem to be connected to it, with The Dark Knight being completely unable to. Seeing as these films premiered a year or two after, what was the behind the scenes team thinking? If GL was a success, these two films would fully destroy the flow of a universe as DC films are coming out that are not connected to GL right after.
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This is probably because they assumed that Chris Nolan would be show running the DCEU, in which Nolan clearly had a different agenda, which is why I scratched my head as to why they continue putting his name on future works.

Basic Blonde Boy said:
As for the 4 films, they should have just done a basic Superman origin, followed by a Batman then a Wonder Woman. For the fourth, we should have had a good Green Lantern film to set up the fifth movie, Justice League. Flash and Cyborg could have easily been introduced in the JL movie, especially Cyborg as what villain does he have for an origin movie? As for Aquaman, they can try to shoehorn him in, but he might just be better off not being present and just leaving the JL team to 6. They also could have just used Hawk Girl instead for a 7th member like the tv show did.
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I’m of a different opinion: that they still should have probably at least established all these characters beforehand. Make Man of Steel and Wonder Woman, but make a Batman film with a villain we don’t regularly see. They can make the same Aquaman film but cut out all reference to Steppenwolf and the Justice League events. Make a Flash film with Gorilla Grodd or Reverse-Flash.

In theory, they could make a Cyborg film by taking a page out of the Teen Titans cartoon and using his strained relationship with his father as a means to stray and be recruited to H.I.V.E., where he has a relationship with Brother Blood akin to Bruce Wayne’s relationship with Ra’s al Ghul in Batman Begins, and that could lead in to future TV shows/films with the Justice League and Teen Titans, instead of having two different Cyborgs and two different Flashes and two different Jokers and four different Batmans.

Of course, like Marvel, they have to trial-run these beginning films to see if there’s a reasonable audience for them.

Then the Justice League film(s) come in.

The Suicide Squad films should be hugely separate from the Justice League. Bringing in Justice League heroes in Suicide Squad was a detriment to that mess of a film. In a film about bringing in misfits who could "defeat Superman" if he went crazy, why would they neglect Batman, the Flash, etc.?

Keep in mind that this is all in reference to the films. DC is fine in the animation and video game departments. At the same time, Marvel is also fine in those departments.
 
I'm kind of happy DCU failed and now they are doing more stand-alone movies even if they are set in the DCU, rather than movies that are just there to set up other shit till they get to the big cross over movie.

With that said not all projects, they are doing sound good, the Black Clark Kent Superman reboot is such a bad idea that no one wants.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
"Top talent" you mean the cry babies who didn't get their way so fucked off to scam people?


You also don't make $116k to draw a comic. You would need to draw several a month to get that. Typical pay at DC and Marvel was up to $200 a page max. $150 being average. It's worse if you inked back in the day when that was still needed as you might be able to see $100 a page. Image would pay out more and also give you more control over your work, however they also used to charge more for their comics than Marvel and DC so they could take a hit. Soon as you see someone talking about the whole comic instead of what they made per page you can tell they're bullshitting you in the industry.
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A starting rate at DC Comics or Marvel for a penciller was $150 per page back in 1998, when I began. I was told that $350 was top POSSIBLE page rate for a penciller. So I hustled on IMPULSE and a few other side projects for DC, and kept getting raises until I nearly hit that top rate. Finally, DC asked me if I wanted to do a "prestige format" project, which turned out to be FLASH: IRON HEIGHTS. This unlocked a secret pay scale at DC Comics: Book Rate.

DC paid me $25,000 to pencil that 48 page book plus a cover, which works out to roughly $500 per page.

That's how they keep some artists with low rates, and others can go sky high. "Book Rate" can be anything. Frank Miller was paid a 7 figure book rate for his sequel to DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. He doesn't get a page rate.

Once I was getting paid a book rate, it never changed. I continued making around $900-1000 pro-rated per page after Green Lantern: Rebirth, for interior pencils and inks.

As for "not getting my way," I had SJWs from Comics Alliance work with some of my SJW peers to create a narrative that I was "Toxic" after the 2016 Election, and they used their allies in the media to basically ruin my name. DC was trying to look pretty for AT&T, and didn't need the bad press, so they told me my contract wouldn't be renewed.

I'd already started a YouTube channel to try to control the narrative they were spinning about me being a "Nazi." Also using it to promote and market comic books through a crowdfunding platform seemed like my best, and perhaps only, alternative.

None of this was my choice, but I'm glad it happened this way. I never would have enjoyed this kind of creative freedom had it not been imposed on me by people who wanted to ruin my life.
 
Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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WB may have shat the bed if true for the following reasons.
1. Had the Zack Synder Justice League cut not came out you could write it off as just being a small number of fans being loud about shit, however, it did come out and it did very well for HBO Max showing the audience for it was bigger than he thought. You are just asking to piss off a number of these people by just reconning the movies they like and to create another backlash. Not bringing Zack Synder back makes sense but to go out your way to recon them like that is just an amazingly bad move.

2. Reboot Batman makes sense with Affleck done with the role after Flash, but Superman makes little sense when Cavill is open to returning and thanks to the Witcher is now a bigger star than he was during the past DC movies. Also not saying there is no market for a Supergirl movie just far less than that of a Superman movie.

3. People are sick of everything trying to be a cinematic universe, you already failed once with it so why try again and risk the audience getting even more burnt out. Also, the two biggest DC movies have been Aquaman which while set in the DCU was still very much stand-alone not building up to another movie and the other is Joker which was completely standalone.

5. You make the Flash unlikable, I mean if these rumours are true it means the Flash has wiped out Superman, Batman and who knows who else from existence in these movies. It will be very hard not to make him look like a villain if they do this.
 
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Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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WB may have shat the bed if true for the following reasons.
1. Had the Zack Synder Justice League cut not came out you could write it off as just being a small number of fans being loud about shit, however, it did come out and it did very well for HBO Max showing the audience for it was bigger than he thought. You are just asking to piss off a number of these people by just reconning the movies they like and to create another backlash. Not bringing Zack Synder back makes sense but to go out your way to recon them like that is just an amazingly bad move.

2. Reboot Batman makes sense with Affleck done with the role after Flash, but Superman makes little sense when Cavill is open to returning and thanks to the Witcher is now a bigger star than he was during the past DC movies. Also not saying there is no market for a Supergirl movie just far less than that of a Superman movie.

3. People are sick of everything trying to be a cinematic universe, you already failed once with it so why try again and risk the audience getting even more burnt out. Also, the two biggest DC movies have been Aquaman which while set in the DCU was still very much stand-alone not building up to another movie and the other is Joker which was completely standalone.

5. You make the Flash unlikable, I mean if these rumours are true it means the Flash has wiped out Superman, Batman and who knows who else from existence in these movies. It will be very hard not to make him look like a villain if they do this.
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Why would Patterson not be the new Batman? That makes little sense. Also, does this mean the new DCEU is connected to the Burton films? How does this all work?

I should also ask if Supergirl will be played by the CW actress. I would not be surprised if DC tries to connect the universes much like Marvel with their shows.

Another point to bring up, where does Suicide Squad fit in this? Is this WB’s chance to finally kill that failure of a brand off. I doubt Harley will be recast, so…

Rebooting the DCEU sounds like a good idea, but really looking at this rumor, this just seems way more confusing. I doubt WB would risk WW or Aquaman going, so clearly some remnants of the past will remain, but it is also all new? I also question why The Batman is not part of any of the plans. Also why get rid of Cavill, I believe he is loved by fans as Superman. I honestly hope he gets a second chance as normal Cavill really gives off the domineering yet nerd vibe of Superman, but the script really fucked him over 90% of the time. Dude should have killed the role.
 
Overly Serious said:
If we did get a Batman in the Joker universe I bet he'd play up the stealth and fear aspects a lot rather than the crazy fight scenes and gadgets aspect. And I'd like to see that.
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If they absolutely can't resist not doing this, a movie about PTSD-ridden Bruce Wayne sneaking into criminals' houses and beating the shit out of them to resolve his mommy/daddy issues doesn't sound awful..

Anonymus Fluhre said:
That's literally what they're called on legal documents since the late 70's.
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I like to think that the "DC" stands for "DC Comics"

Basic Blonde Boy said:
If I am not mistaken, the entire premise for Injustice came from an episode of the animated Justice League where the team goes to a dimension run by The Justice Lords or whatever, basically dictator Justice League.
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There was an episode of Superman: The Animated Series with a similar plot, and an episode of the 1980s Superboy show too. I couldn't believe Superman and Lois ran pretty much the same premise yet again. It seems like exactly the kind of thing they'd try to avoid.

And I'm just mentioning plots specifically about travelling to/from an alternate universe where Superman is a dictator. If you throw in every story where Superman turns evil, has an evil clone, whatever, the list is endless.

Basic Blonde Boy said:
An excerpt on his death from the Wiki, since I cannot find video.

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Flash (Justice Lord)

In a parallel universe, the Flash was instrumental in the Justice Lords' adoption of fascist methods and their subjugation of their Earth for what they saw as the greater good. This Flash's history was identical to his Justice League counterpart until President Lex Luthor threatened the world...
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It's never really shown exactly. Question hallucinates about it and Lex Luthor kind of re-enacts it. iirc the original Justice Lord episode didn't even mention how or when Flash died. A lot the circumstances are totally unexplained. It's a lot more subtle than the hackneyed Injustice backstory.

Product Placement said:
Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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This all sounds completely retarded, so I can believe it.
 
can't wait to hear about homophobia when no one likes the HBO Green Lantern series

Fuck DC for fagging up Alan Scott
 
Basic Blonde Boy said:
I should also ask if Supergirl will be played by the CW actress. I would not be surprised if DC tries to connect the universes much like Marvel with their shows.
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No, Supergirl is played by actress Sasha Calle
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This is from a set pic.
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Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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WB may have shat the bed if true for the following reasons.
1. Had the Zack Synder Justice League cut not came out you could write it off as just being a small number of fans being loud about shit, however, it did come out and it did very well for HBO Max showing the audience for it was bigger than he thought. You are just asking to piss off a number of these people by just reconning the movies they like and to create another backlash. Not bringing Zack Synder back makes sense but to go out your way to recon them like that is just an amazingly bad move.

2. Reboot Batman makes sense with Affleck done with the role after Flash, but Superman makes little sense when Cavill is open to returning and thanks to the Witcher is now a bigger star than he was during the past DC movies. Also not saying there is no market for a Supergirl movie just far less than that of a Superman movie.

3. People are sick of everything trying to be a cinematic universe, you already failed once with it so why try again and risk the audience getting even more burnt out. Also, the two biggest DC movies have been Aquaman which while set in the DCU was still very much stand-alone not building up to another movie and the other is Joker which was completely standalone.

5. You make the Flash unlikable, I mean if these rumours are true it means the Flash has wiped out Superman, Batman and who knows who else from existence in these movies. It will be very hard not to make him look like a villain if they do this.
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This sounds retarded so it must be true, do they have such little faith in Pattinson's batman that they'd rather have Michale Keaton replace Affleck in the role? and removing Superman to give Supergirl is retarded, I'm gay for Cavill but love him or hate him as supes we can all agree that removing Superman to have Supergirl take his spot is retarded.
 
Sinner's Sandwich said:
The actress is cute but the costume is just a w f u l.
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maybe just maybe she will look better in film, set pics tend to look bad 🌈🌈🌈
Basic Blonde Boy said:
The lack of blonde hair is throwing me off with it. Also, I just think Super Girl looks better with a skirt, never was a fan of the full blue suit.
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Going by supposed set leaks, she is not Supergirl (Despite the movie calling her so) but Superwoman, meaning she is a gender-bent version go Kal-El, but I sort of agree she would look better in a skirt and not this suit that looks like a repurposed Spiderman costume from the Garfield era.
 
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Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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WB may have shat the bed if true for the following reasons.
1. Had the Zack Synder Justice League cut not came out you could write it off as just being a small number of fans being loud about shit, however, it did come out and it did very well for HBO Max showing the audience for it was bigger than he thought. You are just asking to piss off a number of these people by just reconning the movies they like and to create another backlash. Not bringing Zack Synder back makes sense but to go out your way to recon them like that is just an amazingly bad move.

2. Reboot Batman makes sense with Affleck done with the role after Flash, but Superman makes little sense when Cavill is open to returning and thanks to the Witcher is now a bigger star than he was during the past DC movies. Also not saying there is no market for a Supergirl movie just far less than that of a Superman movie.

3. People are sick of everything trying to be a cinematic universe, you already failed once with it so why try again and risk the audience getting even more burnt out. Also, the two biggest DC movies have been Aquaman which while set in the DCU was still very much stand-alone not building up to another movie and the other is Joker which was completely standalone.

5. You make the Flash unlikable, I mean if these rumours are true it means the Flash has wiped out Superman, Batman and who knows who else from existence in these movies. It will be very hard not to make him look like a villain if they do this.
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This sounds like shit. I am 50% convinced this is real!
Basic Blonde Boy said:
Why would Patterson not be the new Batman? That makes little sense. Also, does this mean the new DCEU is connected to the Burton films? How does this all work?

I should also ask if Supergirl will be played by the CW actress. I would not be surprised if DC tries to connect the universes much like Marvel with their shows.

Another point to bring up, where does Suicide Squad fit in this? Is this WB’s chance to finally kill that failure of a brand off. I doubt Harley will be recast, so…

Rebooting the DCEU sounds like a good idea, but really looking at this rumor, this just seems way more confusing. I doubt WB would risk WW or Aquaman going, so clearly some remnants of the past will remain, but it is also all new? I also question why The Batman is not part of any of the plans. Also why get rid of Cavill, I believe he is loved by fans as Superman. I honestly hope he gets a second chance as normal Cavill really gives off the domineering yet nerd vibe of Superman, but the script really fucked him over 90% of the time. Dude should have killed the role.
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I like Cavill as Superman. I will deeply be upsit if this is true
Calandrino said:
If they absolutely can't resist not doing this, a movie about PTSD-ridden Bruce Wayne sneaking into criminals' houses and beating the shit out of them to resolve his mommy/daddy issues doesn't sound awful..


I like to think that the "DC" stands for "DC Comics"


There was an episode of Superman: The Animated Series with a similar plot, and an episode of the 1980s Superboy show too. I couldn't believe Superman and Lois ran pretty much the same premise yet again. It seems like exactly the kind of thing they'd try to avoid.

And I'm just mentioning plots specifically about travelling to/from an alternate universe where Superman is a dictator. If you throw in every story where Superman turns evil, has an evil clone, whatever, the list is endless.


It's never really shown exactly. Question hallucinates about it and Lex Luthor kind of re-enacts it. iirc the original Justice Lord episode didn't even mention how or when Flash died. A lot the circumstances are totally unexplained. It's a lot more subtle than the hackneyed Injustice backstory.


This all sounds completely retarded, so I can believe it.
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I do wonder why they do that too Batmam alot?
Vancouver Terry Bollea said:
can't wait to hear about homophobia when no one likes the HBO Green Lantern series

Fuck DC for fagging up Alan Scott
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They turn Alan Scott gay? Why!!!!!!! Just so they can say they turn a superhero form the 1940s into a gay man?
 
Oats12345 said:
They turn Alan Scott gay? Why!!!!!!! Just so they can say they turn a superhero form the 1940s into a gay man?
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Pretty much. This is really old news though, way before any SJW stuff. I want to say it was 2012 when this happened. To put it into context, I remember learning about this through MovieBob on the Escapist, it was quite an old decision.

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Rumours going around from someone that were meant to have leaked stuff from the last Spiderman movie, so could be true
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WB may have shat the bed if true for the following reasons.
1. Had the Zack Synder Justice League cut not came out you could write it off as just being a small number of fans being loud about shit, however, it did come out and it did very well for HBO Max showing the audience for it was bigger than he thought. You are just asking to piss off a number of these people by just reconning the movies they like and to create another backlash. Not bringing Zack Synder back makes sense but to go out your way to recon them like that is just an amazingly bad move.

2. Reboot Batman makes sense with Affleck done with the role after Flash, but Superman makes little sense when Cavill is open to returning and thanks to the Witcher is now a bigger star than he was during the past DC movies. Also not saying there is no market for a Supergirl movie just far less than that of a Superman movie.

3. People are sick of everything trying to be a cinematic universe, you already failed once with it so why try again and risk the audience getting even more burnt out. Also, the two biggest DC movies have been Aquaman which while set in the DCU was still very much stand-alone not building up to another movie and the other is Joker which was completely standalone.

5. You make the Flash unlikable, I mean if these rumours are true it means the Flash has wiped out Superman, Batman and who knows who else from existence in these movies. It will be very hard not to make him look like a villain if they do this.
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Returning to this, now Grace Randolph is reporting it.
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