Community Debate Ethics in VTubing, Model Design and Voice Acting, Loli and Loli-adjacency - Containment zone for third rail enjoyers

[Sperg Spectating]

idiot before actual evidence of their misdeeds is presented.

I think making jokes about "cunny" and erotic child bellies is enough of a misdeed to be labeled as a pedophile, but okay.

 

[Maeis]

I think making jokes about "cunny" and erotic child bellies is enough of a misdeed to be labeled as a pedophile, but okay.

I'm treating a pedophile as someone who would either hurt a kid or watch real CP, which is a strict definition but it feels like the only way you earn the stigma behind that word.

 

[Kivotos strongest Sensei]

Tell me with a straight face that this person is not gooning to Saba/Gura/whatever
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This person is not gooning to Saba/Gura/whatever

 

[Null]

I actually find that stuff not great and I don't think it's normal. I just think someone's being an idiot before actual evidence of their misdeeds is presented. Again, Amos Yee was talking about real life predation being a-ok. There's a big difference between that and "uohhhh" nonsense.

Just so you know your friends in discord "joking"about it are actually into it and are just trying to get you into it too

 

[Maeis]

Just so you know your friends in discord "joking"about it are actually into it and are just trying to get you into it too

Yeah when that shit gets weird I do actually leave servers that devolve into that kind of talk. Like I said, it's not great.

 

[Sperg Spectating]

I'm treating a pedophile as someone who would either hurt a kid or watch real CP, which is a strict definition but it feels like the only way you earn the stigma behind that word.

By definition, "pedophile" means someone who is sexually attracted to children. Using a made up definition to add "stigma" to the word makes no sense. Everyone (besides pedophiles) believes that being sexually attracted to children is a bad thing. Shocking, I know.

 

[Null]

I'm treating a pedophile as someone who would either hurt a kid or watch real CP, which is a strict definition but it feels like the only way you earn the stigma behind that word.

The definition of a pedophile is a sexual attraction to children. Neither of your criteria are accurate.

 

[Kivotos strongest Sensei]

to be 100% fair a bunch of those responses like uoohhh, tummy, etc are not taken seriously by the people who say them. It's like the weeb version of being edgy.

Do you unironically believe that the mindraped goyim cattle here are able to tell the difference?

 

[Maeis]

Everyone (besides pedophiles) think that being sexually attracted to children is a bad thing. Shocking, I know.

The definition of a pedophile is a sexual attraction to children. Neither of your criteria are accurate.

Yes, but people treat the ones that actual act on those urges like the monsters they are, so I keep the definition strict. I dunno, I just think there's way too many stupid people would could get clumped into that level of hatred. To be clear, being attracted to real children is way worse than being attracted to fake children. It's not okay, but one thing is not like the other. (And I do personally condemn both, just not as hard)

 

[Null]

FYI I haven't banned that guy because I think he is a net benefit to "antis". Perfect representation.

 

[Maeis]

FYI I haven't banned that guy because I think he is a net benefit to "antis". Perfect representation.

And also FWIW I feel like that attitude that there's nothing wrong with lolicon is gross and leads people towards the real stuff.

 

[Null]

Yes, but people treat the ones that actual act on those urges like the monsters they are, so I keep the definition strict. I dunno, I just think there's way too many stupid people would could get clumped into that level of hatred. To be clear, being attracted to real children is way worse than being attracted to fake children. It's not okay, but one thing is not like the other. (And I do personally condemn both, just not as hard)

What is the distinction? What is the difference between yaoi and gay? Or anime feet and 3dpd feet? How are you so absolutely certain someone into lolicon is never, ever going progress in their porn addiction?

 

[Maeis]

What is the distinction? What is the difference between yaoi and gay? Or anime feet and 3dpd feet? How are you so absolutely certain someone into lolicon is never, ever going progress in their porn addiction?

I'm not certain, which is why I said I want proof that someone has gone off the deep end into the shitheap. I just don't pre-decide that someone's definitely there in the shit.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

This is a petite woman vtuber model



This is not a petite woman. This is a child.



This is also a petite woman vtuber model



This, is a child model.

 

[Maeis]

This is a petite woman vtuber model



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Huh, her model seemed a lot taller on youtube.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This is a petite woman vtuber model

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This is not a petite woman. This is a child.

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This is also a petite woman vtuber model

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This, is a child model.

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It is truly sad we need a powerpoint style presentation on what and what is not a child to break through the skulls of some people. SAD. PATHETIC.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

Huh, her model seemed a lot taller on youtube.

Here is another petite woman vtuber model. Notice what she has? That's right. She has tits and she has a clearly developed body.

 

[Maeis]

Here is another petite woman vtuber model. Notice what she has? That's right. She has tits and she has a clearly developed body.

Yeah, I think you have a point there- it looks quite a bit worse when it's a 2d image and not a 3d moving avatar.

 

[Polyarmory]

I used to think there was something about VTubers that I just didn't "get", so I would occasionally put them on. I'd never get past a few minutes of the tedious rambling they usually subject their listeners to, and one time when I started my car, it resumed a VTuber video I had forgotten about, and I was alarmed and confused to hear the boisterous shrieking of a little girl coming from my car's stereo. After looking at my phone's screen, a lightbulb turned on... Then, another.

And I never gave VTubers a chance again.

 

[BarberFerdinand]

What is the difference between yaoi and gay?

Completely separate from the primary conversation of this thread: yaoi is porn made for women by women featuring their idealized perception of gay relationships. What actual gay men are interested in is very different from yaoi.