Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

[T_D_S]

So is Trump the only person in his administration who still likes Musk?

pretty much.

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

That might be the single most autistic and retarded post in this 600 page thread about an autistic retard.

yeah, i know

 

[PatrickButtmanJr.]

Somehow the world was convinced he was a real life Iron Man.

moar liek PHONY STARK, amirite?!

 

[JaneThough]

I'm dead certain Elon paid RDJ/Marvel to say Tony Stark was based off of him just like he paid someone to play POE for him.

Oh for fucks sake Elon, did you take one to many Ketamine doses again? Is your K-hole actually a wormhole that takes you back to 2015 when this shit was mildly funny?

Tony Stark is 8 years older than Elol. But yeah, sure, Stan Lee saw the future.

 

[Waffle Iron]

Looks like Musk managed to lose Trump's favor, and with that he lost all support.
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[W@rui]

DOGE roughly saved $170 billion for taxpayers.
The US government wipes its ass with $170 billion.

FY2024's budget was $7 Trillion.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

DOGE roughly saved $170 billion for taxpayers.
The US government wipes its ass with $170 billion.

FY2024's budget was $7 Trillion.

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Even that $170 billion is a huge overestimate. Elon used some real sketchy math in calculating how much he saved. And most of the firing of the agency workers is being undone, so it's even less

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

Even that $170 billion is a huge overestimate. Elon used some real sketchy math in calculating how much he saved. And most of the firing of the agency workers is being undone, so it's even less

i mean trump couldve used DOGE to get rid of any department that he doesnt like (unless its something that is too big/critical)

thats what i'd have done

 

[Waffle Iron]

i mean trump couldve used DOGE to get rid of any department that he doesnt like (unless its something that is too big/critical)

thats what i'd have done

he can still do that without doge. The only difference is that he won't have Elon to blame it on if it goes wrong, but he could always assign someone else to doge and act as a lightning rod.

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

he can still do that without doge. The only difference is that he won't have Elon to blame it on if it goes wrong, but he could always assign someone else to doge and act as a lightning rod.

elon isnt neccesarily the scapegoat, DOGE is

if he fired elon and kept doge, any competent political rival will bring that up and demand doge to be disbanded, to close up that loophole

and then once he's in power, make a similar department but this time the other side will be the one to bitch about it

 

[The Hardest R]

As mentioned before, most of these “savings” end up being cost overruns on the backend. Plus with the Big Beautiful Bill, the deficits we are adding dwarf the exaggerated cost savings from DOGE.

This was all just a work - the truth is that a country with a GDP of $27.72 trillion like the United States is not going to be able to run on a shoestring budget. A big country is going to require a big government to keep running. I think the government should run as efficiently as possible but none of these cuts were ever going to be easy. Just lolbertarian jerkoff fantasies about how they can shrink the government to strangle it and have it swirl down the drain in a bathtub barely even worked in 1790.

The last time we ever had a surplus was under DEMONKKKRAP Bill Clinton and the last surplus under a Republican president was Dwight Eisenhower. Republicans love deficit spending. Elol got to prance around and pretend to be important but when he was costing Republicans elections in easy districts, his time was numbered. Chalk it up as another failure for ol’ Elol. I’m sure he will totally come back one day to pick up where he left off.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

The idea of DOGE was good. The problem was Elon was the worst person you could pick. The first thing that should have been done was pulling the audit reports the GOA already does which show you which departments are spending all the money. Who are the actual problem children? It's not Education (which is maybe 4% of tax revenue). Its SS, Military, Medicare, and Interest. Add the Department of Veterans Affairs (which is really the military and waste money by buck breaking soldiers) and that's all tax receipts. No where did Elon go? Well, seemly nowhere. I wouldn't be surprised if he just ran around and went to the first department he ran into and tried to do the funny funny Office Space Meme. Even shit Elon found was well known and documented by the GOA. OMG THERE ARE FILES IN THE MINES. Well that mine was so good Iron Mountain leases some of it out and do the DOGE Zoomies want to spend 4 years scanning Payroll and HR files? OMG THERE ARE DEAD PEOPLE IN SS FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD Except the GOA did a internal control report where they noted that as a deficiency. The response they gave was that they didn't have a death certificate for those people, they weren't receiving money anyway, and to fix the problem would could money.

So all Elon did was fire people that will be hired back (HMMMM THAT SEEMS FAMILIAR WHEN HAS GENIUS ELON DONE THAT BEFORE) and cut contracts they'll renew anyway. The worst thing is Elon probably killed any hope of the government trying to save money. "What, do a review of Govt cost? I don't want to repeat Elon's shitshow. That room is still unsafe from all the Indian interns he hired"

People like Elon do make me wonder if there is an IQ fall off at the very top of society. Like I understand IQ correlates with wealth, but it's also clear Elon is not in the second or third SD for IQ. At best, he's 110. Like, in that interview, he responded so slow. I don't think he can adequately formulate thoughts that you might expect from a 120 or 130 person. Trump too doesn't appear all that smart. He really lacks any form of second order thinking. 4D Chess? Man can't plan out one move ahead in Checkers. That said, I fully expect the financial and political elite will start finger pointing at each other as the US's financial situation gets worse.

 

[The Hardest R]

Nah, DOGE was shit from day one. The actual goal was using xAI/Grok to collect government records that their competitors (like ChatGPT) couldn’t access to identify solutions. The problem is xAI is shit and it didn’t work so all Elol did was go after political enemies who hurt his feelings while importing massive government databases to a competitive advantage over the competition. Achieving government efficiency was a far distant goal. It’s a good thing xAI/Grok is such utter shit because if it was competent, he could use this to get more funding and higher valuations from all the sensitive data he now possesses.

DOGE was never about efficiency in government.

 

[Fox Girl Enjoyer]

Nah, DOGE was shit from day one. The entire sales pitch was using xAI/Grok to collect government records that their competitors (like ChatGPT) couldn’t access to identify solutions. The problem is xAI is shit so all Elol did was go after political enemies who hurt his feelings while importing massive government databases to a competitive advantage over the competition. Achieving government efficiency was a far distant goal. It’s a good think xAI/Grok is such utter shut because if it was competent, he could use this to get more funding and higher valuations from all the sensitive data he now possesses.

DOGE was never about efficiency in government.

What I mean is trying to review Government Expenditures and find waste is a good idea. But doing that will take all 4 years and requires a level of competency Elon doesn't have. The way I'd do it is go to a Big 4 Accounting firm, find a Government Accounting partner with 20 years experience and have him lead the endeavor. At the very least, he'd pull the GOA audit reports before running around the office with Zoom Zooms. And I think we both agree using Grok, and "AI" that just makes shit up, is was always a recipe for failure.

 

[James done did it]

The issue was never in actually identifying government waste/fraud/abuse. Most of it has been identified for years, either by the GAO or internal audits that end up collecting dust on a shelf somewhere. It's just that you need congress to take action to end these programs and there are entrenched interests that view a lot of this waste/fraud/abuse as a major economic interest, that they extract a lot of value from, where the average person only loses a little bit of value on a per program basis, something beneath their notice. The majority of it is in medicare and the military with medicaid and social security getting honorable mentions. All of the discretionary spending isn't even worth line-iteming and it certainly isn't worth line iteming by zoomers who don't know what they're looking at and end up telling elol that there's thousands of 120 year olds getting social security when a conversation with one of the people they REEE'd at and fired would explain why the database works like it does.

Americans are just a deeply unserious people. We want to have our cake and eat it to, and blame someone else for the budget being unsustainable. The reality is even if we were a nation of moral Kantians and every cent the government spent was legitimately appropriated under our current set of laws and everyone paid the exact tax bill due, the government would still be north of a trillion dollar deficit. At a certain point you need to have a serious conversation, which must involve the legislators we elected to represent us. But I just don't think this country is equipped for that anymore.

 

[Lucas Silva #4903141]

An article from The Guardian on Musk:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/25/elon-musk-trump-politics

Whatever happened to Elon Musk? Tech boss drifts to margins of Trump world​

https://archive.is/qnxFj

The president’s billionaire backer was ever-present at the start of Trump’s term but is now pulling back from politics – and Republicans want to keep it that way

The Oval Office was crowded, with reporters cautioned not to collide with the Resolute Desk. Standing beside them, dressed in black, was Elon Musk, billionaire ally of Donald Trump and head of his government efficiency drive.
“Elon is from South Africa – I don’t want to get Elon involved,” the US president told his South African counterpart, Cyril Ramaphosa, during a discussion about crime against white farmers. “He actually came here on a different subject: sending rockets to Mars. He likes that better.”

Musk’s silence during the fraught hour-long meeting was a small but telling reminder of his shift in Trump’s orbit. He remains close to the president and welcome in the West Wing. He also paid a second visit to the Pentagon this week. But a relationship that many forecast would end in an explosive collision of egos seems instead to be undergoing an inexorable tapering off.

On Monday, the Politico website published an analysis under the headline “Why has Elon Musk disappeared from the spotlight?” It found a sharp drop in the number of times that Trump posted about Musk on his Truth Social platform, from an average of four times a week in February and March to zero since the start of April.
In February, Politico said, Trump’s fundraising operation invoked Musk in fundraising emails almost every day, with one message reading: “I love Elon Musk! The media wants to drive us apart, and it’s not working. He’s great.” But such mentions abruptly halted in early March, with the exception of one email in May advertising a “Gulf of America” hat that Musk had worn.
In addition, White House officials no longer fill their social media feeds with Musk-related content. Reporters seldom ask about him at the White House press briefing. Members of Congress are giving his name a wide berth.
Musk seems to be taking the hint. This week, the Tesla chief executive confirmed that he had reduced his role as the unofficial head of the so-called “department of government efficiency” (Doge) to just two days a week, and will also cut his political spending substantially – the latest public signal that he is shifting his attention back to his business empire amid growing investor concerns.
It is a dramatic shift from the first weeks of Trump’s second term, when Musk attended the inauguration, was a constant presence at Mar-a-Lago, appeared alongside Trump in the Oval Office and gave a joint interview on Fox News full of mutual admiration. Doge dominated media headlines as it took a chainsaw to the federal bureaucracy.
It seemed that Trump was dazzled by the world’s richest person, who sends rockets into space and spent at least $250m to support his election campaign last year. In March, the president even turned the White House south lawn into a temporary Tesla showroom, displaying five of the electric vehicles and promising to buy one himself.


But the polls told their own story. Last month, a national survey by Marquette University Law School found approval of how Musk is handling his work at Doge at 41% with disapproval at 58%. About 60% of those polled had an unfavourable view of Musk himself, compared with 38% who were favourably disposed to him.
Ro Khanna, a Democratic member of Congress who has known Musk for more than a decade, commented: “As his numbers declined, so did Trump’s interest. Trump discards people when their ratings fall and it’s very transactional. It’s nothing more than an initial fascination and a sense of being discarded.”
Khanna, whose congressional district sits in the heart of California’s Silicon Valley, had predicted from the outset that Musk was not going to last more than four or five months: “I said he’s going to get frustrated, exhausted and Washington will win – not him – in terms of how the town works.”
At that time, Khanna was hoping that Doge would make cuts at the Pentagon. Instead, it flouted the constitution to slash the US Agency for International Development (USAID), the Department of Education, the Internal Revenue Service and other targets.
“I said there’s no way he’s going to get anywhere close to $2tn of cuts; he didn’t even get close to a trillion; it’s about $81bn. He learned the lesson that a lot of very successful business leaders learn, that democracy is much tougher than they imagine and doesn’t bend to their will,” Khanna said.
Indeed, Musk continues to hit roadblocks. On Wednesday, the US Institute of Peace retook control of its headquarters after a federal judge said the firing of its board and employees by Doge was illegal. On Thursday, a federal judge in San Francisco said Trump cannot restructure and downsize the US government without the consent of Congress and that she would probably extend her ruling blocking federal agencies from implementing mass layoffs.
Even so, Doge has already enacted deep cuts to the workforce and spending and, in some cases, sought to shutter entire agencies, causing untold damage to the fabric of government.
For example, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) “is not ready” for next month’s start of the hurricane season, according to an internal agency review reported by CNN. The disaster relief agency, which employs more than 20,000 workers, has lost roughly 30% of its full-time staff to layoffs and Doge buyouts.
Khanna warned: “We’re going to be living with the consequences for years to come because unfortunately they’ve managed to totally destroy USAID, they’ve destroyed NIH [the National Institutes of Health], they’ve destroyed FDA [the Food and Drug Administration], they’ve destroyed EPA [the Environmental Protection Agency], they’ve hollowed out so much of the state department and it’s going to take a generation to rebuild.
“I’m hoping that the damage will stop. We have to see what will continue but hopefully there’ll be no more sledgehammer to these institutions.”
Even conservatives who believe in downsizing government share the concerns. Rick Tyler, a political strategist who has worked on Republican campaigns, said: “What they’re trying to do is make the government smaller, which I applaud, but they are not making it more efficient because there has been no vision, no plan to actually make the government operate with fewer people and less money. There is no redesign. This is just slash and burn.”
Tesla, which is the major source of Musk’s wealth, has suffered significant brand damage and lost sales due to his political work, particularly with Trump. He has also expressed support for the far-right, anti-immigration AfD party in Germany. Tesla dealerships have become scenes of protest and vandalism in the US and beyond.
It may be that Musk met his political Waterloo in Wisconsin. His spending of at least $3m helped make Wisconsin’s supreme court race the most expensive of its kind in US history. He even made a personal appearance in Green Bay the weekend before the election wearing a cheesehead hat – popular with fans of the NFL’s Green Bay Packers – and personally handed out cheques for $1m to supporters.

But the candidate he backed lost by 10 percentage points. Democrats had used his intervention to successfully mobilise voters in an election dubbed “People vs Musk”.
This week, Musk told Bloomberg’s Qatar Economic Forum in Doha: “In terms of political spending, I’m going to do a lot less in the future.” The Wisconsin Democratic party chair, Ben Wikler, told the Associated Press: “The people have won. The biggest funder in Republican politics is taking his toys and going home.”
Evidently, Musk and his chainsaw have become a political liability for Republicans seeking re-election in next year’s midterms. Democrats in races across the country are expected to use Musk as a political boogeyman in attack ads on their opponents.
Tyler observed: “The polling numbers, Trump suffering politically, which would hurt his party, which is going to hurt his agenda, caused enough strife that I’m sure he heard from enough members to say, could we just not talk about Elon Musk any more?”
Wendy Schiller, a political science professor at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, added: “It was a trial balloon on how they would reduce federal employees. If it worked and people thought it was great, maybe they would keep going with or without Musk, but they used him as the front person for it and the punching bag. When it backfired, they cut him loose. Not surprising at all.
“There is nobody that you can sincerely believe Donald Trump thinks is important to his popularity or his standing in a positive way because he believes he generates all that himself. And I don’t think he’s wrong about that. But if you become a liability, you’re gone pretty quickly.”

 

[The Hardest R]

Basically everything that we said was going to happen, happened. In the next few months, those agencies will restaff, even if it’s under a different name in the case of USAID, and absolutely no money was saved or efficiencies gained.

 

[Gerelatha]

Basically everything that we said was going to happen, happened. In the next few months, those agencies will restaff, even if it’s under a different name in the case of USAID, and absolutely no money was saved or efficiencies gained.

and not a single prosecution for the supposed 2 trillion worth of waste and fraud Elon said he would find

 

[Imperial Citizen]

Basically everything that we said was going to happen, happened. In the next few months, those agencies will restaff, even if it’s under a different name in the case of USAID, and absolutely no money was saved or efficiencies gained.

Well, not USAID. That form of American soft power has been eliminated. What the administration wants to keep is a development loan program and the more immediate relief operations.

 

[Laughing Putin]

The real point of DOGE was to dismantle and disable all the regulatory agencies going after Musk and anyone in the Trump orbit. All the talk of eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse was a smokescreen.